This item is posted in the hope of sensible debate. It is not posted in order to creat conflict but rather to understand the mechanics and motives for what essentially has wasted lots of money. It seems several Reform candidates that won seats in recent elections have subsequently resigned in England as well as some here in Wales. They didn't win over all so they quit. How childish. I'm taking my ball and going home (sulk). Can we talk about the disgusting waste of time and money from Reform now? I am interested to debate the ethics of such candidates that put themselves forward for positions and now want to force by elections. I am at a total loss to understand how if you voted Reform how can you justify this type of action? |
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"This item is posted in the hope of sensible debate. It is not posted in order to creat conflict but rather to understand the mechanics and motives for what essentially has wasted lots of money. It seems several Reform candidates that won seats in recent elections have subsequently resigned in England as well as some here in Wales. They didn't win over all so they quit. How childish. I'm taking my ball and going home (sulk). Can we talk about the disgusting waste of time and money from Reform now? I am interested to debate the ethics of such candidates that put themselves forward for positions and now want to force by elections. I am at a total loss to understand how if you voted Reform how can you justify this type of action? "
This would do better in the politics forum section OP. If your looking for a debate. |
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By *ino200Man 2 weeks ago
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"This item is posted in the hope of sensible debate. It is not posted in order to creat conflict but rather to understand the mechanics and motives for what essentially has wasted lots of money. It seems several Reform candidates that won seats in recent elections have subsequently resigned in England as well as some here in Wales. They didn't win over all so they quit. How childish. I'm taking my ball and going home (sulk). Can we talk about the disgusting waste of time and money from Reform now? I am interested to debate the ethics of such candidates that put themselves forward for positions and now want to force by elections. I am at a total loss to understand how if you voted Reform how can you justify this type of action?
This would do better in the politics forum section OP. If your looking for a debate."
yes agreed we only do a mass debate here .  |
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By *iver78Man 2 weeks ago
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Everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want without having to explain themselfs , people voted for reform because the other three contenders have proven there useless and don't deserve there support
P.s I voted green lol , only because the lady who stood for them in my area was lovely lol |
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This seems a bit vague. You say they won but didn’t win overall. You refer to “recent elections”. So which ones? Can you be more specific?
I imagine it’s not uncommon for people to stand for election thinking they aren’t going to win, but then they do, and didn’t realise what was going to be involved or that they’ve already got jobs to do and mortgages to pay. Particularly so in the current volatile political climate when results are erratic.
For instance in the most recent London local elections, six Green Party winners already resigned, costing the taxpayers an estimated £100,000 in costs of rerunning the elections:
Two due to alleged “ill health”
Two were teachers who weren’t eligible to be Councillors under the terms of their employment contracts (and presumably preferred the teachers pay so quit the Councillor job)
One wasn’t eligible for other unspecified reasons
One didn’t take up her seat because she had already been suspended for antisemitism.
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The mainstream parties have their vetting and processes down.
The fringe parties don't have that level of administrative oversight, so people that aren't actually eligible end up standing as well as those who in the end simply don't want to deal with it.
It's not exactly shocking that so many reform councillors are not passing the vetting when it's actually being checked 💜 |
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"This item is posted in the hope of sensible debate. It is not posted in order to creat conflict but rather to understand the mechanics and motives ... They didn't win over all so they quit. How childish. I'm taking my ball and going home (sulk). Can we talk about the disgusting waste of time and money from Reform now? ..."
If you were really interested in a sensible debate you wouldn't be calling one side "childish" or stating that their behaviour was "disgusting" while ignoring the other parties that have done the same thing.
I think you just posted that to have a rant, with no intention of listening to other people's viewpoints. |
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As I've posted on similar threads.
All party's field what are known as "paper candidates".
Basically they stand in a ward which the party considers unwinnable but needs a name on the ballot paper so the few supporters they have in that ward have someone to vote for.
Landslides can and often do throw up a shock or two where a paper candidate actually wins but is in no position to take up the seat.
I myself have stood as a paper candidate many times in my days as a Conservative party member. Thankfully I never won but had I done so then I would have had to resign due to work commitments.
All party's do it so it's no big deal. |
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"As I've posted on similar threads.
All party's field what are known as "paper candidates".
Basically they stand in a ward which the party considers unwinnable but needs a name on the ballot paper so the few supporters they have in that ward have someone to vote for.
Landslides can and often do throw up a shock or two where a paper candidate actually wins but is in no position to take up the seat.
I myself have stood as a paper candidate many times in my days as a Conservative party member. Thankfully I never won but had I done so then I would have had to resign due to work commitments.
All party's do it so it's no big deal."
Presumably all Conservative candidates are now "Paper Candidates" as they have no chance of winning anywhere any more.  |
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"As I've posted on similar threads.
All party's field what are known as "paper candidates".
Basically they stand in a ward which the party considers unwinnable but needs a name on the ballot paper so the few supporters they have in that ward have someone to vote for.
Landslides can and often do throw up a shock or two where a paper candidate actually wins but is in no position to take up the seat.
I myself have stood as a paper candidate many times in my days as a Conservative party member. Thankfully I never won but had I done so then I would have had to resign due to work commitments.
All party's do it so it's no big deal.
Presumably all Conservative candidates are now "Paper Candidates" as they have no chance of winning anywhere any more. "
I suppose there could be some truth in that. But I think they will make a bit of a comeback (although not a full blown bounce) in some areas.
Kemi is about the best party leader in the Commons at the moment which will help.
In some parts of the country I think there will be a good few Labour ones as well. |
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"As I've posted on similar threads.
All party's field what are known as "paper candidates".
Basically they stand in a ward which the party considers unwinnable but needs a name on the ballot paper so the few supporters they have in that ward have someone to vote for.
Landslides can and often do throw up a shock or two where a paper candidate actually wins but is in no position to take up the seat.
I myself have stood as a paper candidate many times in my days as a Conservative party member. Thankfully I never won but had I done so then I would have had to resign due to work commitments.
All party's do it so it's no big deal.
Presumably all Conservative candidates are now "Paper Candidates" as they have no chance of winning anywhere any more.
I suppose there could be some truth in that. But I think they will make a bit of a comeback (although not a full blown bounce) in some areas.
Kemi is about the best party leader in the Commons at the moment which will help.
In some parts of the country I think there will be a good few Labour ones as well."
It was a tongue on cheek comment to be honest. My Tory MP, Joe Robertson seems a cut above most in the Shadow Cabinet, but Badenoch is too scared to reshuffle because she is vulnerable to being ousted. Since July 2024 she has led a fall in the polls from 24% to 16%. She doesn't seem to inspire voters? |
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