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"What reperations is the USA going to pay for the unprovoked attack and killing of the Iran women and children? "
im guessing fuck all just like us and america didn't in iraq for all the civillians we blew up there
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"What reperations is the USA going to pay for the unprovoked attack and killing of the Iran women and children?
Don't men count, or are they automatically compensated?"
No its just too complicated in today's age, after all it will take years to discuss and agree upon what is a "woman" before they can get to the issue of what is a "man", thought that would be obvious using common sense 😂 Mrs x |
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"What reperations is the USA going to pay for the unprovoked attack and killing of the Iran women and children?
Don't men count, or are they automatically compensated?"
International men’s day is November 19th, just in case you ever feel the need to ask x |
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By *winga2 OP Man 7 days ago
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"Has there been a settlement agreed? Didn't think there had but I could always be wrong, Mrs x
Agreed ? Who knows
Proposed ... It would appear so
What has been proposed and by who?"
Mango man,but it seems he's talking shite again as Iran have likely told him to piss off |
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"Has there been a settlement agreed? Didn't think there had but I could always be wrong, Mrs x
Agreed ? Who knows
Proposed ... It would appear so
What has been proposed and by who?"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/29/trump-on-verge-of-approving-peace-deal-with-major-iranian-concessions
Fourth paragraph |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
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"Has there been a settlement agreed? Didn't think there had but I could always be wrong, Mrs x
Agreed ? Who knows
Proposed ... It would appear so
What has been proposed and by who?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/29/trump-on-verge-of-approving-peace-deal-with-major-iranian-concessions
Fourth paragraph "
So the line in the sand is not having the capability to create a nuclear weapon, which Iran is pushing back on.
This is the same demands that Europe have, if the US are having this much trouble getting Iran to comply, the EU and UK idea of talks - sanctions is going nowhere.
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By *winga2 OP Man 7 days ago
Stranraer |
"Has there been a settlement agreed? Didn't think there had but I could always be wrong, Mrs x
Agreed ? Who knows
Proposed ... It would appear so
What has been proposed and by who?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/29/trump-on-verge-of-approving-peace-deal-with-major-iranian-concessions
Fourth paragraph
So the line in the sand is not having the capability to create a nuclear weapon, which Iran is pushing back on.
This is the same demands that Europe have, if the US are having this much trouble getting Iran to comply, the EU and UK idea of talks - sanctions is going nowhere.
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There already was an agreement which Trump tore up in 2016 🤷♂️ |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
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"Has there been a settlement agreed? Didn't think there had but I could always be wrong, Mrs x
Agreed ? Who knows
Proposed ... It would appear so
What has been proposed and by who?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/29/trump-on-verge-of-approving-peace-deal-with-major-iranian-concessions
Fourth paragraph
So the line in the sand is not having the capability to create a nuclear weapon, which Iran is pushing back on.
This is the same demands that Europe have, if the US are having this much trouble getting Iran to comply, the EU and UK idea of talks - sanctions is going nowhere.
There already was an agreement which Trump tore up in 2016 🤷♂️"
An agreement that was being ignored. If you are comfortable with Iran being capable of producing weapon grade uranium then your position will be one of no action against Iran. However, if you are concerned about Iran getting closer to creating their own nuclear weapons you should be in support of action to prevent that from becoming reality.
The EU states and UK are sitting on the fence talking about Iran not having the capability, it is not good enough and is not option in my opinion, it is what we do best, nothing. Iran has demonstrated a willingness to continue a conflict it can't win rather than give up their ability to go weapons grade. alarm bells should be ringing |
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Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
Here and there |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
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Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is. |
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By *I TwoCouple 7 days ago
near enough |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is."
Im curious, exactly what did pulling out of the deal in 2018 achieve and what has the current war actually achieved . |
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By *winga2 OP Man 7 days ago
Stranraer |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is."
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ? |
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By *winga2 OP Man 7 days ago
Stranraer |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?"
Ah I found one in 2024 ... |
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By *I TwoCouple 7 days ago
near enough |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?
Ah I found one in 2024 ..."
Was it unprovoked though ? |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
Im curious, exactly what did pulling out of the deal in 2018 achieve and what has the current war actually achieved ."
when you are faced with a problem of such magnitude a decision needs to be made, this is the achilles heel of the UK and EU.
Pulling out removed the money and reinstated the sanctions, it was non military and I believe the best way froward to reduce the threat of Iran funding their proxies. That didn't really play out when we look at Hamas and the others across the region that are funded by Iran. The slow down of enrichment didn't happen so that was another fail.
At this point, what do you do? Close your eyes and hope it goes away, or step up pressure?
There is a lot of noise in the media in terms of what's in and what's out of negotiations, it needs to play out and I'm sure diplomatically we wont know everything Iran ended up agreeing to. |
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Israel has nuclear weapons and is a proven aggressor in the ME and beyond. Israel has also threatened to bomb Iran "back to the stone age".
On that basis why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons? After all every country who has them claims it's as a deterent. |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
Here and there |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?"
Why was the missile and drone attacks on their neighbours civilian infrastructure justified in your opinion? |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
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"Israel has nuclear weapons and is a proven aggressor in the ME and beyond. Israel has also threatened to bomb Iran "back to the stone age".
On that basis why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons? After all every country who has them claims it's as a deterent."
Pick your poison carefully |
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"Israel has nuclear weapons and is a proven aggressor in the ME and beyond. Israel has also threatened to bomb Iran "back to the stone age".
On that basis why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons? After all every country who has them claims it's as a deterent.
Pick your poison carefully"
I am 70 years old and I have always held the view that Israel is the least trustworthy nation to have nuclear weapons and nothing that I have seen in the last few years has made me think any differently.
Israel is out of control in my view.
Also consider what happens if Putin decides to supply Iran with nuclear weapons?
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
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"Israel has nuclear weapons and is a proven aggressor in the ME and beyond. Israel has also threatened to bomb Iran "back to the stone age".
On that basis why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons? After all every country who has them claims it's as a deterent.
Pick your poison carefully
I am 70 years old and I have always held the view that Israel is the least trustworthy nation to have nuclear weapons and nothing that I have seen in the last few years has made me think any differently.
Israel is out of control in my view.
Also consider what happens if Putin decides to supply Iran with nuclear weapons?
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I'm not sure why your age would be a factor in your opinion on your view of the Israeli state?
considering Israel have nuclear weapons at their disposal and have not used them against volatile and aggressive neighbours, why do you feel they are untrustworthy? |
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Despite what is agreed the problem will not go away. The US needs a bogey man to justify keeping the military industrial complex fed and Iran will not forget that the US is the Great Satan. Even if Iran gives up all nuclear materials the US or Israel will not be satisfied. A pretext will always be found for more aggression. Similarly Iran will seek revenge over time through direct or indirect means. |
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"Israel has nuclear weapons and is a proven aggressor in the ME and beyond. Israel has also threatened to bomb Iran "back to the stone age".
On that basis why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons? After all every country who has them claims it's as a deterent.
Pick your poison carefully
I am 70 years old and I have always held the view that Israel is the least trustworthy nation to have nuclear weapons and nothing that I have seen in the last few years has made me think any differently.
Israel is out of control in my view.
Also consider what happens if Putin decides to supply Iran with nuclear weapons?
I'm not sure why your age would be a factor in your opinion on your view of the Israeli state?
considering Israel have nuclear weapons at their disposal and have not used them against volatile and aggressive neighbours, why do you feel they are untrustworthy? "
I have followed ME politics for more than 50 years.Israel the UK and the US were/are the aggressors. 1953 deposed Iran's democratically elected government. The Suez crisis where Israel and the UK ended up trying to depose Nasser.
The Israeli government has captured land from its neighbours for decades. The Israelis lie and lie and lie.
The Israeli government is carrying out a genocidal war in Gaza.
Of course they are completely untrustworthy. |
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is."
There were multiple sources including the CIA that reported Iran had no nuclear weapons program but trump "new best" |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
Here and there |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
There were multiple sources including the CIA that reported Iran had no nuclear weapons program but trump "new best" "
You said you have followed ME politics, I assume you know Trump as like any other US president provides sign off under advice and evidence being presented. You will also know that Biden didn't reverse the Trump "administration" direction.
You are more than willing to scrutinise the actions of Israel and the US, but less willing to scrutinise the actions of Iran. I question whether you are applying the same standard to all parties involved, or giving out passes where you see fit. |
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
There were multiple sources including the CIA that reported Iran had no nuclear weapons program but trump "new best"
You said you have followed ME politics, I assume you know Trump as like any other US president provides sign off under advice and evidence being presented. You will also know that Biden didn't reverse the Trump "administration" direction.
You are more than willing to scrutinise the actions of Israel and the US, but less willing to scrutinise the actions of Iran. I question whether you are applying the same standard to all parties involved, or giving out passes where you see fit."
I think you've got me mixed up with someone else here, but I will say that the trump adminstration is very unreliable and show signs of remarkable incompetence and levels of stupidity.
The Iranians for their faults have demonstrated they have ran rings around trump |
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
There were multiple sources including the CIA that reported Iran had no nuclear weapons program but trump "new best"
You said you have followed ME politics, I assume you know Trump as like any other US president provides sign off under advice and evidence being presented. You will also know that Biden didn't reverse the Trump "administration" direction.
You are more than willing to scrutinise the actions of Israel and the US, but less willing to scrutinise the actions of Iran. I question whether you are applying the same standard to all parties involved, or giving out passes where you see fit."
I can give you some fundamental mistakes that trump and his ill equipped and remarkably incompetent entourage have made if you like |
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By *winga2 OP Man 6 days ago
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?
Why was the missile and drone attacks on their neighbours civilian infrastructure justified in your opinion? "
If I had details on all the attacks on civilian infrastructure I'd comment but I only saw details of attacks on foreign military bases in neighboring countries.
Of course I would condemn any attack by any country on its neighbours but if you corner a rat it will attack everything and anything.
Would Iran have launched these attacks if they hadn't had the shit bombed out of them and their leader assassinated ? Who knows but IMHO unlikely
Was the war on Iran by the US legal ? IMHO no
Was the war on Iran by the US justified ? IMHO No, it was in the middle of dialogue
Is Trump a self centered egotistical cunt on a power trip ? Yes, but he has shot himself in the foot on this one |
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By *otMe66Man 6 days ago
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?
Why was the missile and drone attacks on their neighbours civilian infrastructure justified in your opinion?
If I had details on all the attacks on civilian infrastructure I'd comment but I only saw details of attacks on foreign military bases in neighboring countries.
Of course I would condemn any attack by any country on its neighbours but if you corner a rat it will attack everything and anything.
Would Iran have launched these attacks if they hadn't had the shit bombed out of them and their leader assassinated ? Who knows but IMHO unlikely
Was the war on Iran by the US legal ? IMHO no
Was the war on Iran by the US justified ? IMHO No, it was in the middle of dialogue
Is Trump a self centered egotistical cunt on a power trip ? Yes, but he has shot himself in the foot on this one "
You can’t have missed the attacks on civilian airports as an example?
I’m not sure why you would form an argument based around Trump, the danger of Iran creating nuclear weapons goes well beyond just Trump.
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It seems the master of the deal has negotiated the Iranian position back to where we were in 2016
Hormuz strait opened and a pinky promise not to make a nuclear bomb.
Well done 🙄"
All done.
All will be back to normal in the constantly repeated 14 days.
Ships happily zipping through The Straights.
Friendly little Iranian boats whizzing around passing sailors locations of floating mines.
Oil prices will drop, everything will be back to normal, mid terms sorted.
Nothing to see here.
Well, until the next time.
Let the oil price drop, buy, bomb till the price rises, then repeat.
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Not sure how anyone can say that this whole catastrophe that trump has got the world into! and also making everything even worse is somehow better?!
With the older deal, at least international inspections were done and from what I've seen so far the Iranians we're sticking to the deal to enrichment limits until Trump tore it up yet still wanted Iran to stick to it.
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By *ada123Couple 6 days ago
Glasgow |
"What reperations is the USA going to pay for the unprovoked attack and killing of the Iran women and children?
Don't men count, or are they automatically compensated?"
Yes they do but they are not so emotive and easily associated with "legitimate military targets". |
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By *ada123Couple 6 days ago
Glasgow |
"Despite what is agreed the problem will not go away. The US needs a bogey man to justify keeping the military industrial complex fed and Iran will not forget that the US is the Great Satan.
Even if Iran gives up all nuclear materials the US or Israel will not be satisfied. A pretext will always be found for more aggression. Similarly Iran will seek revenge over time through direct or indirect means."
If a country constantly vilified your country internationally. If it imposed international sanctions so your people remained poor. If it entered into megaphone diplomacy and whilst the talks were still taking place bombed your country. If it bombed a school killing 100 plus children whilst, all the time, offering as justification for their aggression your own failed attempts to acquire weapons to defend yourself. A failure resulting from an agreement with that same country to not create WMDs. Wouldn't you call them Satan? |
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By *winga2 OP Man 6 days ago
Stranraer |
"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?
Why was the missile and drone attacks on their neighbours civilian infrastructure justified in your opinion?
If I had details on all the attacks on civilian infrastructure I'd comment but I only saw details of attacks on foreign military bases in neighboring countries.
Of course I would condemn any attack by any country on its neighbours but if you corner a rat it will attack everything and anything.
Would Iran have launched these attacks if they hadn't had the shit bombed out of them and their leader assassinated ? Who knows but IMHO unlikely
Was the war on Iran by the US legal ? IMHO no
Was the war on Iran by the US justified ? IMHO No, it was in the middle of dialogue
Is Trump a self centered egotistical cunt on a power trip ? Yes, but he has shot himself in the foot on this one
You can’t have missed the attacks on civilian airports as an example?
I’m not sure why you would form an argument based around Trump, the danger of Iran creating nuclear weapons goes well beyond just Trump.
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Was this before Trump bombed the shots out of them ?
Of course I don't condone Iran attacking anyone but Trump started it all off 🤷♂️ |
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"Trump pulled out of the agreement in 2018 against much advise because he hates that Obama signed the deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43902372
Iran then started processing uranium and although international inspectors were allowed into Iran they got chucked out after Trump totally and absolutely devastated and destroyed the l nuclear stockpile last year ( obviously lies)
Now his plan for peace takes us back to the deal to a position of the previous deal with the exception that Iran are now even more desperate for revenge. Will you believe if they put in writing they won't make a nuclear bomb ?
I don't usually agree with the guardian but this sums it up nicely https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/30/iran-trump-peace-deal-analysis
Do I worry that Iran might build a nuclear device ? Yes or course but by your logic Tony Blair was correct to invade Iraq as they were developing a nuclear bomb ... No ?
Trump did not pull out because Obama signed the deal. The worry and criticism was that the agreement delayed the problem rather than removed it. Iran kept their enrichment capability, the deal had sunset clauses, and the sanctions pauses freed up resources and funding for arms, missiles and support for their proxies across the region.
We can see from reports that the US believe Iran still has capabilities to enrich uranium, and I support the US stance on trying to remove the threat Iran pose with such a weapon, you only need to look at the random attacks they made on their neighbours across the middle east to see how dangerous the Iranian regime is.
What unprovoked attacks did they make on their neighbours prior to the attacks in February ?
Why was the missile and drone attacks on their neighbours civilian infrastructure justified in your opinion?
If I had details on all the attacks on civilian infrastructure I'd comment but I only saw details of attacks on foreign military bases in neighboring countries.
Of course I would condemn any attack by any country on its neighbours but if you corner a rat it will attack everything and anything.
Would Iran have launched these attacks if they hadn't had the shit bombed out of them and their leader assassinated ? Who knows but IMHO unlikely
Was the war on Iran by the US legal ? IMHO no
Was the war on Iran by the US justified ? IMHO No, it was in the middle of dialogue
Is Trump a self centered egotistical cunt on a power trip ? Yes, but he has shot himself in the foot on this one
You can’t have missed the attacks on civilian airports as an example?
I’m not sure why you would form an argument based around Trump, the danger of Iran creating nuclear weapons goes well beyond just Trump.
Was this before Trump bombed the shots out of them ?
Of course I don't condone Iran attacking anyone but Trump started it all off 🤷♂️"
Or was it Israel attacking neighbours and blaming in on Iran as a false flag op like Cyprus ? |
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"Despite what is agreed the problem will not go away. The US needs a bogey man to justify keeping the military industrial complex fed and Iran will not forget that the US is the Great Satan.
Even if Iran gives up all nuclear materials the US or Israel will not be satisfied. A pretext will always be found for more aggression. Similarly Iran will seek revenge over time through direct or indirect means.
If a country constantly vilified your country internationally. If it imposed international sanctions so your people remained poor. If it entered into megaphone diplomacy and whilst the talks were still taking place bombed your country. If it bombed a school killing 100 plus children whilst, all the time, offering as justification for their aggression your own failed attempts to acquire weapons to defend yourself. A failure resulting from an agreement with that same country to not create WMDs. Wouldn't you call them Satan?"
They were calling "Satan" and promising "Death" from way before the Islamic Revolution. |
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"Despite what is agreed the problem will not go away. The US needs a bogey man to justify keeping the military industrial complex fed and Iran will not forget that the US is the Great Satan.
Even if Iran gives up all nuclear materials the US or Israel will not be satisfied. A pretext will always be found for more aggression. Similarly Iran will seek revenge over time through direct or indirect means.
If a country constantly vilified your country internationally. If it imposed international sanctions so your people remained poor. If it entered into megaphone diplomacy and whilst the talks were still taking place bombed your country. If it bombed a school killing 100 plus children whilst, all the time, offering as justification for their aggression your own failed attempts to acquire weapons to defend yourself. A failure resulting from an agreement with that same country to not create WMDs. Wouldn't you call them Satan?"
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