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over a year ago
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Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2..."
Technically you are absolutely right and it is the UK. But ask the majority of people in Ulster how they see themselves and I am pretty sure they will say 'British'. Gibraltarians think of themselves as 'British' as do the Falklanders. No mention of the UK and most people in the rest of the world call us all 'Brits' do they not? So 'Great Britain' does by common consent also include Ulster. IMHO.
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"But ask the majority of people in Ulster how they see themselves and I am pretty sure they will say 'British'
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Wow this statement couldn't be more wrong!
Personally I hate being labelled British. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2...
Technically you are absolutely right and it is the UK. But ask the majority of people in Ulster how they see themselves and I am pretty sure they will say 'British'. Gibraltarians think of themselves as 'British' as do the Falklanders. No mention of the UK and most people in the rest of the world call us all 'Brits' do they not? So 'Great Britain' does by common consent also include Ulster. IMHO.
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Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is just a phrase,do not take it so seriously,you must have few problems in life
I'm just an engineer. I solve problems for a living. "
There are many different types of Engineer
be more specific |
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon.."
You make it sound like a bad thing  We British are proud we improved Ireland. Plus we got cheaper potatoes for while  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon.."
I like to think I have a reasonable IQ but I do not recognise the image you portray as regards the 'British Isles'. If I might digress this is a geographic name by the way so in geographic terms we are all 'British'. Just like Mexicans and Canadians are 'American'.
However since when was any part of these islands 'invaded' as you describe. What is now Eire was actually part of 'England' since AD 1170 when Diarmuid MacMurrough the disposed King of Leinster invited King Henry II into his lands....
We had an interesting relationship with the Scots as we shared a Monarch since the Union of the Crowns in 1603 but basically they asked us to bale them out following foreign failures and the Act of Union in 1706 created 'Great Britain' in peaceful circumstances.
Wales has effectively been part of England since Norman times and certainly since 1282.
Historically my statements were accurate as regards Gib and the Falklands as well.
Not too much 'invading of lands' going on there then but I suspect you are voicing the Irish Nationalist point of view. To which all I would say is that I said 'the majority of those in Ulster' not everyone in Ulster. |
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A disposed King of Leinster invited ye here...that's your argument,well why didn't you say...Christ I'll inform all us Irish nationalists to stop our disgraceful opinions of the colonialist imperialists in our nation...just out of interest seeing as you reckon you've a right to be here why in God name did you leave 26 of our 32 counties in 1922...I mean by your own twisted logic what were ye thinking if your entitled to foreign nations?? |
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
I like to think I have a reasonable IQ but I do not recognise the image you portray as regards the 'British Isles'. If I might digress this is a geographic name by the way so in geographic terms we are all 'British'. Just like Mexicans and Canadians are 'American'.
However since when was any part of these islands 'invaded' as you describe. What is now Eire was actually part of 'England' since AD 1170 when Diarmuid MacMurrough the disposed King of Leinster invited King Henry II into his lands....
We had an interesting relationship with the Scots as we shared a Monarch since the Union of the Crowns in 1603 but basically they asked us to bale them out following foreign failures and the Act of Union in 1706 created 'Great Britain' in peaceful circumstances.
Wales has effectively been part of England since Norman times and certainly since 1282.
Historically my statements were accurate as regards Gib and the Falklands as well.
Not too much 'invading of lands' going on there then but I suspect you are voicing the Irish Nationalist point of view. To which all I would say is that I said 'the majority of those in Ulster' not everyone in Ulster. "
Scots!!!!!, are you calling the good people of Scotland Scots, what has come over you
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2..."
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Dunkirk spirit
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Us British, we're used to a bit more vitality, imagination, touch of the Dunkirk spirit, know what I mean? The days when Yanks could come over here and buy up Nelson's Column, a Harley Street surgeon and a couple of Windmill girls are definitely over! What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: Culture. Sophistication. Genius. A little bit more than a hot dog, know what I mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVVrZJaN1IU
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Ah feck sake niknak I was waiting to hit him with that...ruined the surprise  ,yep love to see him tell the folks of Monaghan,Cavan and Donegal they regard themselves as british  |
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"A disposed King of Leinster invited ye here...that's your argument,well why didn't you say...Christ I'll inform all us Irish nationalists to stop our disgraceful opinions of the colonialist imperialists in our nation...just out of interest seeing as you reckon you've a right to be here why in God name did you leave 26 of our 32 counties in 1922...I mean by your own twisted logic what were ye thinking if your entitled to foreign nations??"
Sorry to butt in but Britain didn't leave anything. We merely decided we didn't need the shit bit anymore |
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so witty...hard to believe a Jeremy Kyle contestant like easy thought that up all on his own...well done easy we are so proud of you...it's truly hard to believe with your wit your a pathetic single begging to be noticed |
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"Ah feck sake niknak I was waiting to hit him with that...ruined the surprise ,yep love to see him tell the folks of Monaghan,Cavan and Donegal they regard themselves as british "
Whether you like it or not there have been three referendums on this issue of 'remaining British'. Two in Ulster were in favour. The third in Eire voted ... in favour. So there seems to be a big majority across the WHOLE of Ireland for people in Ulster to 'remain British'.
Democracy tends to be what I listen to not some exaggerated Nationalist fairytales whether they come from Irish or Scottish Nationalists ... |
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"so witty...hard to believe a Jeremy Kyle contestant like easy thought that up all on his own...well done easy we are so proud of you...it's truly hard to believe with your wit your a pathetic single begging to be noticed "
Thank you for your kind words. Now if you can just take that chip* off your shoulder you will find life much more enjoyable.
*potato based pun unintentional |
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Oh and my use of the term 'Ulster' is in the modern context not what was in place before the Government of Ireland Act 1920 ... 
So why is there a party in 'Northern Ireland' called ' The Ulster Unionist Party then? Are they seeking the unification of the 9 Counties? |
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"so witty...hard to believe a Jeremy Kyle contestant like easy thought that up all on his own...well done easy we are so proud of you...it's truly hard to believe with your wit your a pathetic single begging to be noticed
Thank you for your kind words. Now if you can just take that chip* off your shoulder you will find life much more enjoyable.
*potato based pun unintentional "
i will surely....and you go back to your lady boy porn and pulling your plum there little boy. |
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"Ah feck sake niknak I was waiting to hit him with that...ruined the surprise ,yep love to see him tell the folks of Monaghan,Cavan and Donegal they regard themselves as british
Whether you like it or not there have been three referendums on this issue of 'remaining British'. Two in Ulster were in favour. The third in Eire voted ... in favour. So there seems to be a big majority across the WHOLE of Ireland for people in Ulster to 'remain British'.
Democracy tends to be what I listen to not some exaggerated Nationalist fairytales whether they come from Irish or Scottish Nationalists ... "
the good Friday agreement certainly did not verify our acceptance of British intrusion in our island...it was a stepping stone to a long term solution which is the unification of this island...ulster is 9 counties,always was and always will be so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"so witty...hard to believe a Jeremy Kyle contestant like easy thought that up all on his own...well done easy we are so proud of you...it's truly hard to believe with your wit your a pathetic single begging to be noticed
Thank you for your kind words. Now if you can just take that chip* off your shoulder you will find life much more enjoyable.
*potato based pun unintentional i will surely....and you go back to your lady boy porn and pulling your plum there little boy."
Good film I'm watching at the moment. You're in it  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Whats being an engineer got to do with it?
heating engineer = plumber
but nothing to do with anything at all"
I'm an ex software engineer. So I take things too literally. |
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"Ah feck sake niknak I was waiting to hit him with that...ruined the surprise ,yep love to see him tell the folks of Monaghan,Cavan and Donegal they regard themselves as british
Whether you like it or not there have been three referendums on this issue of 'remaining British'. Two in Ulster were in favour. The third in Eire voted ... in favour. So there seems to be a big majority across the WHOLE of Ireland for people in Ulster to 'remain British'.
Democracy tends to be what I listen to not some exaggerated Nationalist fairytales whether they come from Irish or Scottish Nationalists ... the good Friday agreement certainly did not verify our acceptance of British intrusion in our island...it was a stepping stone to a long term solution which is the unification of this island...ulster is 9 counties,always was and always will be so."
In your dreams Soft Lad .. In your dreams. While the majority of those in Ulster, the 6 counties Ulster that is, wish to remain British (just as in Gibraltar and Falklands) they will forever BE British. |
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon.."
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian |
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian "
Well Ireland is free from the UK but stupidly remains part of the EU. Northern Ireland is British and will be for as long as the majority wish it to be so.
As for Scotland I think there is a growing opinion that they can leave the UK any time they like... Oh and that feeling is in England.. |
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"A disposed King of Leinster invited ye here...that's your argument,well why didn't you say...Christ I'll inform all us Irish nationalists to stop our disgraceful opinions of the colonialist imperialists in our nation...just out of interest seeing as you reckon you've a right to be here why in God name did you leave 26 of our 32 counties in 1922...I mean by your own twisted logic what were ye thinking if your entitled to foreign nations??"
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian Well Ireland is free from the UK but stupidly remains part of the EU. Northern Ireland is British and will be for as long as the majority wish it to be so.
As for Scotland I think there is a growing opinion that they can leave the UK any time they like... Oh and that feeling is in England.. "
Oh i really hope it wont be long till scotland is free from england and thereis no northern Ireland its the north of Ireland and only thought of as british by unionists hopefully the unionist british occupation will be over in the not too distant future and there will be a united Ireland |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny."
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel"
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel"
I am
and said it to the thick tater eaters. They thought the eurovision contest was the same as the world cup |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic "
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough |
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian Well Ireland is free from the UK but stupidly remains part of the EU. Northern Ireland is British and will be for as long as the majority wish it to be so.
As for Scotland I think there is a growing opinion that they can leave the UK any time they like... Oh and that feeling is in England..
Oh i really hope it wont be long till scotland is free from england and thereis no northern Ireland its the north of Ireland and only thought of as british by unionists hopefully the unionist british occupation will be over in the not too distant future and there will be a united Ireland"
Well much as I would love to agree with you I fear it will never happen. The Scots don't have the balls to do what the rest of the UK did and go it alone. The Scots are too dependent on the filthy English supporting them in the way to which they have become accustomed, to the the tune of £15 Bn a year, and love taking our money while shouting abuse at us. Its rather pathetic and sad to see the 'Bravehearts' seem, from down here, to have turned into a bunch of spineless whingers. And the sooner we are rid of people who think the SNP are worth voting for the better.
Oh wait no .... you Scots already HAD your referendum and bottled it in 2014 didn't you? |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough "
You have exceptionally bigoted views about the British, excluding the Scottish (although at a guess you probably hate Rangers supporters).
And I have made potato based jokes to Irish people and they all take it in the manner it is intended. Apart from you and I'm not even sure if you're Irish. |
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Your money? Really lol scotland has been subsidising england for years with our oil whisky ect ,answer one question if yous really think we are subsidized why did your polititians beg yes BEG us to stay because they would have lost their triple A rating and be bloody bankrupt ,and we never got independence because of the unionist voters who would rather be be ruled by a corrupt goverment and a bunch of royal scroungers who aren't even british lol ,yep we will get our independence very soon and sit watching as england crumbles |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough
You have exceptionally bigoted views about the British, excluding the Scottish (although at a guess you probably hate Rangers supporters).
And I have made potato based jokes to Irish people and they all take it in the manner it is intended. Apart from you and I'm not even sure if you're Irish."
Quote me one bigoted veiw on this thread pls ,oh and i have family and friends who support rangers so your wrong again and i dont beleive you about famine jokes |
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"Your money? Really lol scotland has been subsidising england for years with our oil whisky ect ,answer one question if yous really think we are subsidized why did your polititians beg yes BEG us to stay because they would have lost their triple A rating and be bloody bankrupt ,and we never got independence because of the unionist voters who would rather be be ruled by a corrupt goverment and a bunch of royal scroungers who aren't even british lol ,yep we will get our independence very soon and sit watching as england crumbles "
Have you been having a tipple too many?
YOUR oil? It is UK oil for a start.
But OK name me ONE year when the tax income in Scotland exceeded expenditure and a surplus was transferred to the UK Treasury? Last year it was a deficit of £15 Bn. the year before £12 Bn ...etc etc
According to the IFS in March this year if Scotland had declared independence on 24 March – the day chosen by then SNP leader Alex Salmond before he lost the 2014 referendum campaign, its population would be facing an overall deficit of £2,850 per head in the 2016/17 financial year. [Or £14.25 Billion].
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/24/ifs-scotland-debts-three-times-greater-uk
Every year the Scots have more public expenditure in services than any other part of the UK except Ulster (which is an exceptional situation). England always comes off lowest.
In 2014/15, [average] public spending per head in the UK as a whole was £8,913:
• Northern Ireland £11,106 (25% above the UK average).
• Scotland: £10,374 (16% above the UK average)
• Wales: £9,904 (11% above the UK average)
• England: £8,638 (3% below the UK average).
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn04033.pdf
So who is subsidising who? |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough
You have exceptionally bigoted views about the British, excluding the Scottish (although at a guess you probably hate Rangers supporters).
And I have made potato based jokes to Irish people and they all take it in the manner it is intended. Apart from you and I'm not even sure if you're Irish.
Quote me one bigoted veiw on this thread pls ,oh and i have family and friends who support rangers so your wrong again and i dont beleive you about famine jokes "
Your views on the British are bigoted as stated above. You have also made bigoted comments about loyalists. You evidently don't like being called a bigot so I suggest you think twice before accusing others of it.
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" we never got independence because of the unionist voters who would rather be be ruled by a corrupt goverment and a bunch of royal scroungers who aren't even british"
Ah so there is a majority of Unionists in Scotland after all. Another SNP lie ....
And 'Royal Scroungers'? Really? We stopped paying the Royal Family in the 1600s. We funded the Monarch's expenses as Head of State until 2011 at a cost to taxpayers of £0.60p each. Since then those costs have come out of Crown Estates revenues. Which happen to contribute about £240 Million a year to the UK Treasury and have done for decades. Substantially more than does Scotland contribute. So at least you admit you are 'scroungers' then. Cool. |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough
You have exceptionally bigoted views about the British, excluding the Scottish (although at a guess you probably hate Rangers supporters).
And I have made potato based jokes to Irish people and they all take it in the manner it is intended. Apart from you and I'm not even sure if you're Irish.
Quote me one bigoted veiw on this thread pls ,oh and i have family and friends who support rangers so your wrong again and i dont beleive you about famine jokes
Your views on the British are bigoted as stated above. You have also made bigoted comments about loyalists. You evidently don't like being called a bigot so I suggest you think twice before accusing others of it.
I don't care what you believe. What I know is far more important. "
Still havent showed where i made bigoted comments and not once have i mentioned loyalists in this thread so pls stop making things up and as for britain so if i dont like it im a bigot ? |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough
You have exceptionally bigoted views about the British, excluding the Scottish (although at a guess you probably hate Rangers supporters).
And I have made potato based jokes to Irish people and they all take it in the manner it is intended. Apart from you and I'm not even sure if you're Irish.
Quote me one bigoted veiw on this thread pls ,oh and i have family and friends who support rangers so your wrong again and i dont beleive you about famine jokes
Your views on the British are bigoted as stated above. You have also made bigoted comments about loyalists. You evidently don't like being called a bigot so I suggest you think twice before accusing others of it.
I don't care what you believe. What I know is far more important.
Still havent showed where i made bigoted comments and not once have i mentioned loyalists in this thread so pls stop making things up and as for britain so if i dont like it im a bigot ?"
According to you I'm a bigot for making a joke that is way above your intellect. And if you read what I said you will note I have explained myself, although I don't see why I need to.
Oh, and Loyalists are loyal to????
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It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us |
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"We got cheap potatoes
Bigoted clown
No clowns, just potatoes. Although that Graham Norton fella is quite funny.
See you think your funny your nothing but a fucking bigot bet your not man enough to say that in an irish pub in london ya weasel
I don't think I'm funny. I'm not a bigot either, you are the one with bigotted views. I am merely enjoying pressing the buttons as your responses are funny.
For the record there are no Irish pubs in London but there are pubs owned and frequented by Irish people. People of other nationalities are welcomed and yes I do occassionally go into one or more and enjoy the craic
I have not said anything bigoted on here and as for your responce about irish pubs pls go into one and make that comment about the famine pls do it you prob wont be on here for a few months after it lol but alas your not man enough
You have exceptionally bigoted views about the British, excluding the Scottish (although at a guess you probably hate Rangers supporters).
And I have made potato based jokes to Irish people and they all take it in the manner it is intended. Apart from you and I'm not even sure if you're Irish.
Quote me one bigoted veiw on this thread pls ,oh and i have family and friends who support rangers so your wrong again and i dont beleive you about famine jokes
Your views on the British are bigoted as stated above. You have also made bigoted comments about loyalists. You evidently don't like being called a bigot so I suggest you think twice before accusing others of it.
I don't care what you believe. What I know is far more important.
Still havent showed where i made bigoted comments and not once have i mentioned loyalists in this thread so pls stop making things up and as for britain so if i dont like it im a bigot ?
According to you I'm a bigot for making a joke that is way above your intellect. And if you read what I said you will note I have explained myself, although I don't see why I need to.
Oh, and Loyalists are loyal to????
Thank you and goodnight. I'm off to put on my Queen Elizabeth inspired pj's "
Your a bigot for your snide comment about the famine and been through everything ive said and not once mentioned loyalist |
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"It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us "
QE pjs on.
We only wanted Scotland to stay so we have cannon fodder in the event of any military conflict.
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" we never got independence because of the unionist voters who would rather be be ruled by a corrupt goverment and a bunch of royal scroungers who aren't even british
Ah so there is a majority of Unionists in Scotland after all. Another SNP lie ....
And 'Royal Scroungers'? Really? We stopped paying the Royal Family in the 1600s. We funded the Monarch's expenses as Head of State until 2011 at a cost to taxpayers of £0.60p each. Since then those costs have come out of Crown Estates revenues. Which happen to contribute about £240 Million a year to the UK Treasury and have done for decades. Substantially more than does Scotland contribute. So at least you admit you are 'scroungers' then. Cool. "
Of course theres a unionist majority as its a protestant country so dont were you get snp lie from ? And pretty sure the germanic prussian royals get most things paid by the taxpayer and not one ever worked a day in there life also pretty sure they have took out court injuctions against papers so they cant report some of there close ties to peadophiles but hey thats nowt eh |
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"It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us "
Errr ... actually no. The numbers I provided account for the proportion of oil revenues that accrue to Scotland. And there was still a huge Deficit. Why? Because the SNP are spending Socialists and have sponged off the English taxpayers to peddle the myth of 'everything is free' to keep getting voted back in. Well from this year its YOU Scots who will be paying that £15 Bn... enjoy!
And the reason the Scots were advised to stay in the UK is because we didn't fancy having a basket case economy on our doorstep with millions of Scots heading south to escape the SNP nightmare ... |
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"It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us
Errr ... actually no. The numbers I provided account for the proportion of oil revenues that accrue to Scotland. And there was still a huge Deficit. Why? Because the SNP are spending Socialists and have sponged off the English taxpayers to peddle the myth of 'everything is free' to keep getting voted back in. Well from this year its YOU Scots who will be paying that £15 Bn... enjoy!
And the reason the Scots were advised to stay in the UK is because we didn't fancy having a basket case economy on our doorstep with millions of Scots heading south to escape the SNP nightmare ... "
Haha really im sure in a few yrs time when yous dont have our assets to keep your economy going youl have a different veiw ,eh how many trillions is britain in debt ? |
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" we never got independence because of the unionist voters who would rather be be ruled by a corrupt goverment and a bunch of royal scroungers who aren't even british
Ah so there is a majority of Unionists in Scotland after all. Another SNP lie ....
And 'Royal Scroungers'? Really? We stopped paying the Royal Family in the 1600s. We funded the Monarch's expenses as Head of State until 2011 at a cost to taxpayers of £0.60p each. Since then those costs have come out of Crown Estates revenues. Which happen to contribute about £240 Million a year to the UK Treasury and have done for decades. Substantially more than does Scotland contribute. So at least you admit you are 'scroungers' then. Cool.
Of course theres a unionist majority as its a protestant country so dont were you get snp lie from ? And pretty sure the germanic prussian royals get most things paid by the taxpayer and not one ever worked a day in there life also pretty sure they have took out court injuctions against papers so they cant report some of there close ties to peadophiles but hey thats nowt eh "
Look do please stop being stupid. Its late ...
'Germanic Prussian Royals'? are you for real? Not even worth a response that ....
You say you are sure the Royals get most things paid by the taxpayer. OK name some things then? If its true its really simple.... You do realise the Queen and every one of the Royal Family pay taxes?
As for the rest its getting rather silly as you are clearly just throwing any old thing up in the air .... |
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"It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us
Errr ... actually no. The numbers I provided account for the proportion of oil revenues that accrue to Scotland. And there was still a huge Deficit. Why? Because the SNP are spending Socialists and have sponged off the English taxpayers to peddle the myth of 'everything is free' to keep getting voted back in. Well from this year its YOU Scots who will be paying that £15 Bn... enjoy!
And the reason the Scots were advised to stay in the UK is because we didn't fancy having a basket case economy on our doorstep with millions of Scots heading south to escape the SNP nightmare ...
Haha really im sure in a few yrs time when yous dont have our assets to keep your economy going youl have a different veiw ,eh how many trillions is britain in debt ? "
You aren't too good at accountancy are you? If something costs you money it is a liability not an asset. And Scotland is a £15 Bn liability in the Profit & Loss Accounts of the UK. The Scottish deficit costs us more than membership of the EU. It costed us about 21% of our annual UK deficit in 2015 / 16.
So as I said do please leave the UK any time you have the balls for it ... Oh and make sure you have a Central Bank and a Currency as you go ... |
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" we never got independence because of the unionist voters who would rather be be ruled by a corrupt goverment and a bunch of royal scroungers who aren't even british
Ah so there is a majority of Unionists in Scotland after all. Another SNP lie ....
And 'Royal Scroungers'? Really? We stopped paying the Royal Family in the 1600s. We funded the Monarch's expenses as Head of State until 2011 at a cost to taxpayers of £0.60p each. Since then those costs have come out of Crown Estates revenues. Which happen to contribute about £240 Million a year to the UK Treasury and have done for decades. Substantially more than does Scotland contribute. So at least you admit you are 'scroungers' then. Cool.
Of course theres a unionist majority as its a protestant country so dont were you get snp lie from ? And pretty sure the germanic prussian royals get most things paid by the taxpayer and not one ever worked a day in there life also pretty sure they have took out court injuctions against papers so they cant report some of there close ties to peadophiles but hey thats nowt eh
Look do please stop being stupid. Its late ...
'Germanic Prussian Royals'? are you for real? Not even worth a response that ....
You say you are sure the Royals get most things paid by the taxpayer. OK name some things then? If its true its really simple.... You do realise the Queen and every one of the Royal Family pay taxes?
As for the rest its getting rather silly as you are clearly just throwing any old thing up in the air .... "
Rather silly responding then if not worth a responce lol do they pay for their cars ,bodygaurds flights the places they visit abroad decorating flats mantions ect ?and yes they are germanic prussians or are you that daft you think they were born with the name windsor mind use google for your answers lol |
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"It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us
Errr ... actually no. The numbers I provided account for the proportion of oil revenues that accrue to Scotland. And there was still a huge Deficit. Why? Because the SNP are spending Socialists and have sponged off the English taxpayers to peddle the myth of 'everything is free' to keep getting voted back in. Well from this year its YOU Scots who will be paying that £15 Bn... enjoy!
And the reason the Scots were advised to stay in the UK is because we didn't fancy having a basket case economy on our doorstep with millions of Scots heading south to escape the SNP nightmare ...
Haha really im sure in a few yrs time when yous dont have our assets to keep your economy going youl have a different veiw ,eh how many trillions is britain in debt ?
You aren't too good at accountancy are you? If something costs you money it is a liability not an asset. And Scotland is a £15 Bn liability in the Profit & Loss Accounts of the UK. The Scottish deficit costs us more than membership of the EU. It costed us about 21% of our annual UK deficit in 2015 / 16.
So as I said do please leave the UK any time you have the balls for it ... Oh and make sure you have a Central Bank and a Currency as you go ... "
Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country |
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over a year ago
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"It is scotlands oil only thing is westminster take the biggest majority of the profits if we had full control of all our assets we wouldnt have a deficit ,oh and also see you only reply to certain posts as still waiting on an answer as to why every politician in every party BEGGED us to stay surely if we are such a burden they would be diying to get rid of us
Errr ... actually no. The numbers I provided account for the proportion of oil revenues that accrue to Scotland. And there was still a huge Deficit. Why? Because the SNP are spending Socialists and have sponged off the English taxpayers to peddle the myth of 'everything is free' to keep getting voted back in. Well from this year its YOU Scots who will be paying that £15 Bn... enjoy!
And the reason the Scots were advised to stay in the UK is because we didn't fancy having a basket case economy on our doorstep with millions of Scots heading south to escape the SNP nightmare ...
Haha really im sure in a few yrs time when yous dont have our assets to keep your economy going youl have a different veiw ,eh how many trillions is britain in debt ?
You aren't too good at accountancy are you? If something costs you money it is a liability not an asset. And Scotland is a £15 Bn liability in the Profit & Loss Accounts of the UK. The Scottish deficit costs us more than membership of the EU. It costed us about 21% of our annual UK deficit in 2015 / 16.
So as I said do please leave the UK any time you have the balls for it ... Oh and make sure you have a Central Bank and a Currency as you go ...
Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country "
You don't know that... on another thread, you said...
Ah so many experts on here who seem to know exactly what will happen if scotland goes independent when in reality no one knows ,
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" Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country "
SNP fantasy land right there folks! Earlier you were saying Scotland funded the UK. Now you say you do not have control of 'your' assets. And yopu call the overly generous and unfair settlements under the Barnett Formula as 'token payments'. Listen I do not consider underwriting a £15 Bn overdraft a 'token payment'. Neither do I consider the fact that the UK lavishes 20% more public expenditure on you Scots than it does on the English who also fund that £15 Bn deficit.
It isn't Scotland that is getting the bum deal fellah its us English. Which is fine as long we get some respect for it but we don't. As I said there is a growing feeling in England that we have had enough of the bollocks and abuse and meddling coming out of the SNP (for which read Scotland) and its time for it to end. Just go.... |
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" Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country
SNP fantasy land right there folks! Earlier you were saying Scotland funded the UK. Now you say you do not have control of 'your' assets. And yopu call the overly generous and unfair settlements under the Barnett Formula as 'token payments'. Listen I do not consider underwriting a £15 Bn overdraft a 'token payment'. Neither do I consider the fact that the UK lavishes 20% more public expenditure on you Scots than it does on the English who also fund that £15 Bn deficit.
It isn't Scotland that is getting the bum deal fellah its us English. Which is fine as long we get some respect for it but we don't. As I said there is a growing feeling in England that we have had enough of the bollocks and abuse and meddling coming out of the SNP (for which read Scotland) and its time for it to end. Just go.... "
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The oil and gas sector is the UK’s largest corporation tax payer, contributing 16.4% of total Government corporation tax receipts - more than many other significant industries combined. Our report shows that the industry’s contribution to UK tax revenues extends far beyond the taxes North Sea firms pay themselves. Including taxes they collect – such as employee taxes and for those with a downstream business, fuel duties, the Total Tax Contribution (TTC) is estimated at £30.1bn, which is 5.5% of total UK government tax revenues. If the taxes paid by companies in the supply chain were included, the figure would be even higher |
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" Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country
SNP fantasy land right there folks! Earlier you were saying Scotland funded the UK. Now you say you do not have control of 'your' assets. And yopu call the overly generous and unfair settlements under the Barnett Formula as 'token payments'. Listen I do not consider underwriting a £15 Bn overdraft a 'token payment'. Neither do I consider the fact that the UK lavishes 20% more public expenditure on you Scots than it does on the English who also fund that £15 Bn deficit.
It isn't Scotland that is getting the bum deal fellah its us English. Which is fine as long we get some respect for it but we don't. As I said there is a growing feeling in England that we have had enough of the bollocks and abuse and meddling coming out of the SNP (for which read Scotland) and its time for it to end. Just go.... "
This chip on your shoulder continues to grow, how can you sleep at night, knowing we up in Scotland have a better life, better scenic surroundings, better homes, much more land per home and the countryside on our door steps
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" Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country
SNP fantasy land right there folks! Earlier you were saying Scotland funded the UK. Now you say you do not have control of 'your' assets. And yopu call the overly generous and unfair settlements under the Barnett Formula as 'token payments'. Listen I do not consider underwriting a £15 Bn overdraft a 'token payment'. Neither do I consider the fact that the UK lavishes 20% more public expenditure on you Scots than it does on the English who also fund that £15 Bn deficit.
It isn't Scotland that is getting the bum deal fellah its us English. Which is fine as long we get some respect for it but we don't. As I said there is a growing feeling in England that we have had enough of the bollocks and abuse and meddling coming out of the SNP (for which read Scotland) and its time for it to end. Just go....
This chip on your shoulder continues to grow, how can you sleep at night, knowing we up in Scotland have a better life, better scenic surroundings, better homes, much more land per home and the countryside on our door steps
life must be a bitch when you have such a huge chip on your shoulder "
No chips here mate. I just dislike having the piss taken by your SNP muppets who take our money, make out it is YOUR money and then abuse us simply for being English. But yeah you have done really well out of English taxpayers and I am glad you enjoyed it. As of this year its you who will be paying it. Enjoy the extra $2,850 per person the SNP will cost you this year....
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The oil and gas sector is the UK’s largest corporation tax payer, contributing 16.4% of total Government corporation tax receipts - more than many other significant industries combined. Our report shows that the industry’s contribution to UK tax revenues extends far beyond the taxes North Sea firms pay themselves. Including taxes they collect – such as employee taxes and for those with a downstream business, fuel duties, the Total Tax Contribution (TTC) is estimated at £30.1bn, which is 5.5% of total UK government tax revenues. If the taxes paid by companies in the supply chain were included, the figure would be even higher"
Nicely copy / pasted. Where did it come from? It doesn't matter how much tax an industry pays when the Government it is paid to spends more than it receives does it?
And last year the SNP Government spent £15 Billion more than it received. And we English pay for your Defence and Foreign Policy on top of that ....
But as I said if you lot have the balls for it just go. I really don't give a flying one ... |
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2..."
I thought Britain included Northern Ireland |
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" Your not very good at taking things in are you we would be fine if we had control of all our assets instead of being given token payments to try run our country
SNP fantasy land right there folks! Earlier you were saying Scotland funded the UK. Now you say you do not have control of 'your' assets. And yopu call the overly generous and unfair settlements under the Barnett Formula as 'token payments'. Listen I do not consider underwriting a £15 Bn overdraft a 'token payment'. Neither do I consider the fact that the UK lavishes 20% more public expenditure on you Scots than it does on the English who also fund that £15 Bn deficit.
It isn't Scotland that is getting the bum deal fellah its us English. Which is fine as long we get some respect for it but we don't. As I said there is a growing feeling in England that we have had enough of the bollocks and abuse and meddling coming out of the SNP (for which read Scotland) and its time for it to end. Just go....
This chip on your shoulder continues to grow, how can you sleep at night, knowing we up in Scotland have a better life, better scenic surroundings, better homes, much more land per home and the countryside on our door steps
life must be a bitch when you have such a huge chip on your shoulder
No chips here mate. I just dislike having the piss taken by your SNP muppets who take our money, make out it is YOUR money and then abuse us simply for being English. But yeah you have done really well out of English taxpayers and I am glad you enjoyed it. As of this year its you who will be paying it. Enjoy the extra $2,850 per person the SNP will cost you this year....
Oil & Gas
The oil and gas sector is the UK’s largest corporation tax payer, contributing 16.4% of total Government corporation tax receipts - more than many other significant industries combined. Our report shows that the industry’s contribution to UK tax revenues extends far beyond the taxes North Sea firms pay themselves. Including taxes they collect – such as employee taxes and for those with a downstream business, fuel duties, the Total Tax Contribution (TTC) is estimated at £30.1bn, which is 5.5% of total UK government tax revenues. If the taxes paid by companies in the supply chain were included, the figure would be even higher
Nicely copy / pasted. Where did it come from? It doesn't matter how much tax an industry pays when the Government it is paid to spends more than it receives does it?
And last year the SNP Government spent £15 Billion more than it received. And we English pay for your Defence and Foreign Policy on top of that ....
But as I said if you lot have the balls for it just go. I really don't give a flying one ... "
Google the mcrone report commissioned early 70s by tories and hidden by labour in 1974 for 30yrs it will let you know how wealthy scotland can be if given control over all our assets and resources it might even change your bitterness towards us |
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2... I thought Britain included Northern Ireland "
Last time I checked it was. I also recall cheering on Wales, England and Northen Ireland in the European Championships this year as a proud Brit.
I don't remember cheering on Scotland for some reason |
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" Google the mcrone report commissioned early 70s by tories and hidden by labour in 1974 for 30yrs it will let you know how wealthy scotland can be if given control over all our assets and resources it might even change your bitterness towards us "
Firstly I have absolutely NO bitterness towards the Scots in any way so you can stop twisting words fellah. I might think you are mugs to believe the SNP but hey I am a Tory and no doubt you think far worse of me!
It is the SNP and its politics of hate and abuse towards the English and its misleading of the Scottish people on the back of £ Billions of English subsidy that hid the reality of their economic failure that I despise. Sturgeon plays way abover her pay grade and fucks about in UK politics where she has no mandate. She threatens actions where has no authority and wanders off misleading people abroad as to her standing in the UK. She has NO standing outside of Scotland and even their she has NO say in Foreign or Defence matters. And doing all that shit makes the rest of the us cry 'Enough already! just go'. THAT is my point.
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" Google the mcrone report commissioned early 70s by tories and hidden by labour in 1974 for 30yrs it will let you know how wealthy scotland can be if given control over all our assets and resources it might even change your bitterness towards us
Firstly I have absolutely NO bitterness towards the Scots in any way so you can stop twisting words fellah. I might think you are mugs to believe the SNP but hey I am a Tory and no doubt you think far worse of me!
It is the SNP and its politics of hate and abuse towards the English and its misleading of the Scottish people on the back of £ Billions of English subsidy that hid the reality of their economic failure that I despise. Sturgeon plays way abover her pay grade and fucks about in UK politics where she has no mandate. She threatens actions where has no authority and wanders off misleading people abroad as to her standing in the UK. She has NO standing outside of Scotland and even their she has NO say in Foreign or Defence matters. And doing all that shit makes the rest of the us cry 'Enough already! just go'. THAT is my point.
And if we are having to rely on a report from the '70s to prove something then its time for us all to pack this in.
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And last year the SNP Government spent £15 Billion more than it received. And we English pay for your Defence and Foreign Policy on top of that ....
But as I said if you lot have the balls for it just go. I really don't give a flying one ...
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You need to go back and read all your quotes from all your posts and then rethink your bitterness and huge chip
you then mumble on to say "We English pay this, we English pay that"
as far as I remember its all one big pot mate, of which the whole of Britain pays into
Its attitudes like your that gives some English a bad name, no wonder Scotland, Wales and Ireland get totally pissed off with comments of such
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keep on working, keep on paying your taxes |
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Forget all the silly snide comments from most, including me (although mine are tongue in cheek a couple of people lack humour but I am big enough to apologise when needed). The strength of Britain is a simple case of synergy.
Is there inequality in the union? Yes, but it goes all ways so for every Scottish gripe there is an English, Welsh or Northern Irish one. And it will continue.
Do the Scottish like being ruled by Westminster? Predominantly no. Do the English like the Scottish Parliament having a say in English only matters? Predominantly no. So it evens itself out.
Alone we can all survive and suceed. But together can excell |
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" You need to go back and read all your quotes from all your posts and then rethink your bitterness and huge chip
you then mumble on to say "We English pay this, we English pay that"
as far as I remember its all one big pot mate, of which the whole of Britain pays into
Its attitudes like your that gives some English a bad name, no wonder Scotland, Wales and Ireland get totally pissed off with comments of such
still
keep on working, keep on paying your taxes"
Oh I have been paying taxes all my life mate no worries but I worked hard enough to now enjoy an early retirement and have 7 day weekends do you?
But you make a huge mistake when you try and create this 'chip' image. I was a staunch Unionist all my life until Alex Salmond started his anti-English rhetoric. At which point my 'Englishness' overcame my 'Uninionism' and I felt insulted and needed to defend my country as much as Salmond kept on talking up HIS country. As you say before the SNP there was just a UK inside which we all rubbed along with highs and lows and a united front and a lot of banter. Salmond and the SNP forged a divide between Scotland and the rest of the UK. And don't think Scotland has too many sympathisers in Wales mate. They think you Scots have been given far too much compared to what they have been given in both Devolution and public funding.
So do not confuse someone saying 'Screw you Sturgeon start paying your bills before you slag us off' with someone having some sort of angst or 'chip' about Scots people. Its your politicians I despise not your country. |
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" And don't think Scotland has too many sympathisers in Wales mate. They think you Scots have been given far too much compared to what they have been given in both Devolution and public funding."
Far be it for me to speak on behalf of the Welsh, but I can't help feeling better qualified for the job. Actually there is support for Scotland in Wales. It's not that the Scots were given too much, it's that the Welsh weren't given enough and we want parity with Scotland, we don't begrudge the Scots anything though |
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" And don't think Scotland has too many sympathisers in Wales mate. They think you Scots have been given far too much compared to what they have been given in both Devolution and public funding.
Far be it for me to speak on behalf of the Welsh, but I can't help feeling better qualified for the job. Actually there is support for Scotland in Wales. It's not that the Scots were given too much, it's that the Welsh weren't given enough and we want parity with Scotland, we don't begrudge the Scots anything though"
Well said but I know welsh people who express a slightly different view. No they do not 'begrudge' Scotland a better deal as they hope to get parity of Devolution but given Scotland DO have a far better deal and get far more money Per Capita than the Welsh they are more than miffed when Scotland keeps complaining and wanting more. That was my point but I may have expressed it badly. Thanks for pulling me up. |
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2... I thought Britain included Northern Ireland "
Great Britain is the biggest isle of the British Isles. UK is short for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So the play on "Great Britain" is wrong.
The point of my post is that the slogan is meant to break people up. Divide and conquer. Instead of uniting us. Which already is apparent in the following posts.
Everyone is entitled to define your own identify. Whether you say you're British or Scottish. It's not our place to define it. Even though I'm British legally, im a Cockney Chilean. Nothing changes that. |
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"Since I'm an engineer I'm picky.
The statement is just a slogan but it's wrong. Because it's ignoring Northern Ireland.
Did anyone find it offensive?
What about "Make our kingdoms united again"? Maybe that's step 2... I thought Britain included Northern Ireland
Great Britain is the biggest isle of the British Isles. UK is short for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So the play on "Great Britain" is wrong.
The point of my post is that the slogan is meant to break people up. Divide and conquer. Instead of uniting us. Which already is apparent in the following posts.
Everyone is entitled to define your own identify. Whether you say you're British or Scottish. It's not our place to define it. Even though I'm British legally, im a Cockney Chilean. Nothing changes that."
I really do not see how the terms 'Britain' or 'British' are in any way divisive. They are a general term for what is also known as the UK. If you libe in Northernm Ireland (or Ulster as I call it) then you are in the UK. But you are also very much 'British'.
Mind the Yanks somehow think all of us live in 'England'... |
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Oil & Gas
The oil and gas sector is the UK’s largest corporation tax payer, contributing 16.4% of total Government corporation tax receipts - more than many other significant industries combined. Our report shows that the industry’s contribution to UK tax revenues extends far beyond the taxes North Sea firms pay themselves. Including taxes they collect – such as employee taxes and for those with a downstream business, fuel duties, the Total Tax Contribution (TTC) is estimated at £30.1bn, which is 5.5% of total UK government tax revenues. If the taxes paid by companies in the supply chain were included, the figure would be even higher"
How many years out of date are these figures?
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Oil & Gas
The oil and gas sector is the UK’s largest corporation tax payer, contributing 16.4% of total Government corporation tax receipts - more than many other significant industries combined. Our report shows that the industry’s contribution to UK tax revenues extends far beyond the taxes North Sea firms pay themselves. Including taxes they collect – such as employee taxes and for those with a downstream business, fuel duties, the Total Tax Contribution (TTC) is estimated at £30.1bn, which is 5.5% of total UK government tax revenues. If the taxes paid by companies in the supply chain were included, the figure would be even higher
How many years out of date are these figures?
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Some time methinks... But it doesn't matter how much tax they paid the SNP spent more and the English had to fund the deficit ..
These are the last Scottish Government figures 2014 / 15:
Revenue:
£53.4 Billion
Expenditure:
£68.4 Billion
Deficit:
£14.9 Billion
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian Well Ireland is free from the UK but stupidly remains part of the EU. Northern Ireland is British and will be for as long as the majority wish it to be so.
As for Scotland I think there is a growing opinion that they can leave the UK any time they like... Oh and that feeling is in England..
Oh i really hope it wont be long till scotland is free from england and thereis no northern Ireland its the north of Ireland and only thought of as british by unionists hopefully the unionist british occupation will be over in the not too distant future and there will be a united Ireland"
my ma is one of those "British unionists" if you told her she wasn't "Irish" she'd be very dumbfounded!... She considers herself an Irish Brit and she's certainly not in any way for a united Ireland.
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian Well Ireland is free from the UK but stupidly remains part of the EU. Northern Ireland is British and will be for as long as the majority wish it to be so.
As for Scotland I think there is a growing opinion that they can leave the UK any time they like... Oh and that feeling is in England..
Oh i really hope it wont be long till scotland is free from england and thereis no northern Ireland its the north of Ireland and only thought of as british by unionists hopefully the unionist british occupation will be over in the not too distant future and there will be a united Ireland my ma is one of those "British unionists" if you told her she wasn't "Irish" she'd be very dumbfounded!... She considers herself an Irish Brit and she's certainly not in any way for a united Ireland.
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and she's amongst 900,000 people on this island who are of exactly the same view point,the problem is there are 4 million of us who believe this island to be Ireland...inflicting a border on is with the threat of anihalation and telling us the vast amount within that border wish to be British doesn't really work for us... |
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"Invade a country,steal their lands,force mass emigration upon its original habitants and leave the rest to endure the horrors of famine...move your own people in and tell the world the vast majority want to be British,how could anyone with an I.q take pride in that...one land one nation as far as the majority of citizens of this island are concerned,someday imperial colonialism will be a thing of the past and not a day to soon..
Well said hopefully it wont be long till Ireland and scotland are free from Britian Well Ireland is free from the UK but stupidly remains part of the EU. Northern Ireland is British and will be for as long as the majority wish it to be so.
As for Scotland I think there is a growing opinion that they can leave the UK any time they like... Oh and that feeling is in England..
Oh i really hope it wont be long till scotland is free from england and thereis no northern Ireland its the north of Ireland and only thought of as british by unionists hopefully the unionist british occupation will be over in the not too distant future and there will be a united Ireland my ma is one of those "British unionists" if you told her she wasn't "Irish" she'd be very dumbfounded!... She considers herself an Irish Brit and she's certainly not in any way for a united Ireland.
and she's amongst 900,000 people on this island who are of exactly the same view point,the problem is there are 4 million of us who believe this island to be Ireland...inflicting a border on is with the threat of anihalation and telling us the vast amount within that border wish to be British doesn't really work for us..."
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Don't I know it, my dad's from Donegal, luckily for him he's a lot easier going than my ma or there'd be daily war!.
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The problem with my ma's half is she cannot trust a catholic government, going back some the Irish church and state were somewhat connected, as times gone by the Irish government has become more secular, I think if we're to get anywhere in Ireland in the future we'd have to see a complete disconnection between state and church on both the south and the north.... Impartiality will be the key to allowing both sides to feel at ease.... Failing that you can wait another 100 to 200 years for the population to be less religious |
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"The problem with my ma's half is she cannot trust a catholic government, going back some the Irish church and state were somewhat connected, as times gone by the Irish government has become more secular, I think if we're to get anywhere in Ireland in the future we'd have to see a complete disconnection between state and church on both the south and the north.... Impartiality will be the key to allowing both sides to feel at ease.... Failing that you can wait another 100 to 200 years for the population to be less religious"
Aren't there more Catholics than Protestants in Northern Ireland these days? |
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"Drogheda is in Erie?"
Of course it is in Eire but people put all sorts of place names on their profiles for security. I actually do not live in Ipswich. I was reacting to the words and sentiments expressed which indicated they came from Northern Ireland... And if they do not live in Northern Ireland then I was not calling them 'British' so I am now totally mystified by it all. |
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"The problem with my ma's half is she cannot trust a catholic government, going back some the Irish church and state were somewhat connected, as times gone by the Irish government has become more secular, I think if we're to get anywhere in Ireland in the future we'd have to see a complete disconnection between state and church on both the south and the north.... Impartiality will be the key to allowing both sides to feel at ease.... Failing that you can wait another 100 to 200 years for the population to be less religious
Aren't there more Catholics than Protestants in Northern Ireland these days?"
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It's pretty much divided between East /protestant and west /catholic although that's a rough generalise of it!.
To be honest i think there always had been more Catholics , Ireland is a pretty catholic country perse |
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"Drogheda is in Erie?
Of course it is in Eire but people put all sorts of place names on their profiles for security. I actually do not live in Ipswich. I was reacting to the words and sentiments expressed which indicated they came from Northern Ireland... And if they do not live in Northern Ireland then I was not calling them 'British' so I am now totally mystified by it all."
live in Louth,family from Derry... |
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Scotland seems to be another half a billion in the hole!.
Over spending in a bad economical time is not necessarily a bad thing but it depends what your spending it on!.
According to the obr just a few months ago north sea oil will give negative revenues till upto 2021 with upto 1 billon a year negativity....
I think the snp might have to reconsider there plans |
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"Scotland seems to be another half a billion in the hole!.
Over spending in a bad economical time is not necessarily a bad thing but it depends what your spending it on!.
According to the obr just a few months ago north sea oil will give negative revenues till upto 2021 with upto 1 billon a year negativity....
I think the snp might have to reconsider there plans"
Don't start the whole 'North Sea Oil' debate off again. I'm not sure I can take it |
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"Scotland seems to be another half a billion in the hole!.
Over spending in a bad economical time is not necessarily a bad thing but it depends what your spending it on!.
According to the obr just a few months ago north sea oil will give negative revenues till upto 2021 with upto 1 billon a year negativity....
I think the snp might have to reconsider there plans
Don't start the whole 'North Sea Oil' debate off again. I'm not sure I can take it "
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Lol .
I'm only repeating what's just been on radio 5.... Turns out it's newsworthy |
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