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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I wonder if all those students cheering Labour's plan to scrap tuition fees will still be cheering when they start their well paid jobs and see half of their earnings being deducted in taxes.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"I wonder if all those students cheering Labour's plan to scrap tuition fees will still be cheering when they start their well paid jobs and see half of their earnings being deducted in taxes."

I imagine most graduate starting salaries will not be in the 5% of tax payers paying more towards rebalancing funding into the NHS etc. There's a politics forum if this is political, not educational btw

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is called supply and demand.

We are graduating a heck of a lot more people from college/University, but we aren't increasing the number of jobs available for them.

We also have a lot of people leaving college/university with really useless shit degrees that don't really apply to anything or even have any REAL career path, they end up wandering around waving and bitching "isn't anyone going to give me a job?

I'VE GOT ALL THESE FUCKING LOANS."

Well..THAT's kind of the problem.

It's NOT tuition that costs so much.

It's that bullshit piece of paper they give you at the end.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This reminds me I really should be revising

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I wonder if all those students cheering Labour's plan to scrap tuition fees will still be cheering when they start their well paid jobs and see half of their earnings being deducted in taxes."

Actually, the 50% tax rate would only apply to earnings over £123,000. Just for factual accuracy.

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By *apascouseMan  over a year ago

Liverpool


"This is called supply and demand.

We are graduating a heck of a lot more people from college/University, but we aren't increasing the number of jobs available for them.

We also have a lot of people leaving college/university with really useless shit degrees that don't really apply to anything or even have any REAL career path, they end up wandering around waving and bitching "isn't anyone going to give me a job?

I'VE GOT ALL THESE FUCKING LOANS."

Well..THAT's kind of the problem.

It's NOT tuition that costs so much.

It's that bullshit piece of paper they give you at the end.

"

I agree I have just finished a maths degree with 10 students but art had over 500 in 1 year group

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I wonder if all those students cheering Labour's plan to scrap tuition fees will still be cheering when they start their well paid jobs and see half of their earnings being deducted in taxes."

Do you mean "like they were before the tuition fees"?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free."

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies.

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By *innamon!Woman  over a year ago

no matter


"I wonder if all those students cheering Labour's plan to scrap tuition fees will still be cheering when they start their well paid jobs and see half of their earnings being deducted in taxes."

Yep and all those that will complain when prices rise because company Taxes are so high.

I can see them all moaning about Vet fees going up because of that.Of course they assume its the Vet getting more.Really annoys me,

Not thinking ahead perhaps.. Someone will have to pay and inevitably the poor will remain poor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. "

That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important."

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though. "

Of course they're happy! The county is rich as fuck! just dont speed or buy beer.....

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though.

Of course they're happy! The county is rich as fuck! just dont speed or buy beer....."

Why are they as rich as fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though. "

That is right they are very happy as well, norway is good too and yes, it is a more relaxed lifestyle as well and food too with the smorgosbord, the herring aint too bad

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though.

Of course they're happy! The county is rich as fuck! just dont speed or buy beer.....

Why are they as rich as fuck? "

Oil.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though.

Of course they're happy! The county is rich as fuck! just dont speed or buy beer.....

Why are they as rich as fuck? "

They're second richest per capita or something.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though.

Of course they're happy! The county is rich as fuck! just dont speed or buy beer.....

Why are they as rich as fuck?

Oil."

fish oil?

Shag, group sex for me is like a smorgasbord

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham

Mute point as the Tories have said they won't rule out a tax hike which is politician speak for there will be a tax hike. So taxes will rise either way.

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free."

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing....

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By *eedsandyMan  over a year ago

Leeds

And why should a bus driver get up at 4:30am to get to the depot to drive the 1st bus of the day, to fund a student geting d*unk, partying every night, whilstdoing a rubbish course, at a rubbish "university" that will never lead to any job that the student could not have got simply by leaving school at 16?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If anything it's making me think Labour are losing it.

There's too much being offered now with no way of possibly being able to fund it all.

Scary.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

And you're the perfect example of the result,Shag. Fluent in english, okish in Spanish and flabs to impress the ladies. That is right and to impress too, yeah I guess it depends what each country puts first and what is more important.

Scandinavian countries often come out as being the happiest folk in Europe. I had friends who emigrated to Norway and they really love the lifestyle. I'm not too aye about their pickled herring diet though.

Of course they're happy! The county is rich as fuck! just dont speed or buy beer.....

Why are they as rich as fuck?

Oil. fish oil?

Shag, group sex for me is like a smorgasbord "

That is good too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing.... "

Yes, it is free, it is funded through taxation or charitable organizations rather than tuition funding.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"If anything it's making me think Labour are losing it.

There's too much being offered now with no way of possibly being able to fund it all.

Scary. "

It's all costed. How can the Tory government afford the £13.5 billion for a new railway. There are better ways to spend that that favour a lot of people not just a few.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is called supply and demand.

We are graduating a heck of a lot more people from college/University, but we aren't increasing the number of jobs available for them.

We also have a lot of people leaving college/university with really useless shit degrees that don't really apply to anything or even have any REAL career path, they end up wandering around waving and bitching "isn't anyone going to give me a job?

I'VE GOT ALL THESE FUCKING LOANS."

Well..THAT's kind of the problem.

It's NOT tuition that costs so much.

It's that bullshit piece of paper they give you at the end.

I agree I have just finished a maths degree with 10 students but art had over 500 in 1 year group"

Yeah and it's precisely what I mean by "supply and demand".

If they FIRST tackle THAT^^ problem, they wouldn't actually **need** to scrap student loans & Fee's.

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing.... Yes, it is free, it is funded through taxation or charitable organizations rather than tuition funding."

Sooooo = tax is free in Sweden? It gets better and better = book me a flight pronto!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing.... Yes, it is free, it is funded through taxation or charitable organizations rather than tuition funding.

Sooooo = tax is free in Sweden? It gets better and better = book me a flight pronto!!"

No, the tax it is not free, but the tax is higher than normal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Um, transferable skills.

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing.... Yes, it is free, it is funded through taxation or charitable organizations rather than tuition funding.

Sooooo = tax is free in Sweden? It gets better and better = book me a flight pronto!!No, the tax it is not free, but the tax is higher than normal."

"Tax is higher than normal" - please explain how education is free in Sweden ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing.... Yes, it is free, it is funded through taxation or charitable organizations rather than tuition funding.

Sooooo = tax is free in Sweden? It gets better and better = book me a flight pronto!!No, the tax it is not free, but the tax is higher than normal.

"Tax is higher than normal" - please explain how education is free in Sweden ?"

Well it is free as they have higher tax and most of it goes towards the education, the tax is %50.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I live and work in Norway for 8 months of the year.

Bookmark/screenshot my post and throw it in my face in 7-10 years time if I'm wrong.This country will go to shite before the 10 years are up.

Prices are high for everything,food,clothes,going out,but it's no problem because the wages are also higher than everywhere else.

Oil has kept the country running but the price will tumble in the next 3-5 years (I work for stat-oil)

There is no tourism,maybe a few of you will go on a cruise through the fjords.There will however be a massive problem with iraqi,Somalian and Syrian refugees.

Possibly the nicest,polite nation is going to suffer the worst.

The population is tiny,refugees/illegals already make up 20% of the country,which is huge,but nearly 90% of them live in Oslo and the amount of kids they pump out is dwarfing our reproduction.I personally think in 25 years Norwegians will be thr minority.sex crimes are going off the scale and until recently we had to take in everyone because of the laws we signed up to.A great country is going to dissappear unnoticed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I thought the thread was on tuition fees

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I live and work in Norway for 8 months of the year.

Bookmark/screenshot my post and throw it in my face in 7-10 years time if I'm wrong.This country will go to shite before the 10 years are up.

Prices are high for everything,food,clothes,going out,but it's no problem because the wages are also higher than everywhere else.

Oil has kept the country running but the price will tumble in the next 3-5 years (I work for stat-oil)

There is no tourism,maybe a few of you will go on a cruise through the fjords.There will however be a massive problem with iraqi,Somalian and Syrian refugees.

Possibly the nicest,polite nation is going to suffer the worst.

The population is tiny,refugees/illegals already make up 20% of the country,which is huge,but nearly 90% of them live in Oslo and the amount of kids they pump out is dwarfing our reproduction.I personally think in 25 years Norwegians will be thr minority.sex crimes are going off the scale and until recently we had to take in everyone because of the laws we signed up to.A great country is going to dissappear unnoticed."

I'll save the time and effort and tell you your full of it right now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Now turned into a cock fight

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By *orum TrollWoman  over a year ago

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might as well do it that way, seeing as the tories are having to prosecute people who haven't paid their fees back (but apparently earn enough to do so).

plus i'm a student so fuck yeah i want free college.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I thought the thread was on tuition fees "
It is, we compare it to different countries.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

***backs out again quietly***

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"***backs out again quietly***"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Considering how many won't be paying back much if any, the whole tuition fee thing is going to be a huge multi billion black hole in some future govement's budget.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And why should a bus driver get up at 4:30am to get to the depot to drive the 1st bus of the day, to fund a student geting d*unk, partying every night, whilstdoing a rubbish course, at a rubbish "university" that will never lead to any job that the student could not have got simply by leaving school at 16?"

because it's his job and he gets paid to drive buses

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham


"There is no need to pay anything for education in the first place, in sweden it is free.

Free?

Really ?

Does the free education fairy flutter down in Sweden and wave her little wand?

Amazing.... Yes, it is free, it is funded through taxation or charitable organizations rather than tuition funding.

Sooooo = tax is free in Sweden? It gets better and better = book me a flight pronto!!No, the tax it is not free, but the tax is higher than normal.

"Tax is higher than normal" - please explain how education is free in Sweden ?Well it is free as they have higher tax and most of it goes towards the education, the tax is %50."

They're just being a pedant. Just rob the NHS line, it's free at the point of use.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its a lot more than 50% for the high end earners as Jc also intends a levy on those earning 330k + if I read correctly

Not that it will effect me but i live in hope

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No tuition fees in Scotland

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No tuition fees in Scotland"

And it's generally the well off who get the limited places

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No.

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