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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West

“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded."

Only problem with that idea is that 3 of Ireland's main beef processing plants signed deals to start shipping to China in the last week , its just a minor detail that he missed on

The other thing he might want to think about is without a deal in place if the uk crashes out in March . Is the fact that the uk at any given time has 3 days supply of food ,

So if UK crashed out the uk have no preparation done at its ports for customs , means delays on importation of food , plus when it gets there it will be a lot more expensive ,

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Having shot ourselves in one foot, we are now pointing the gun at our other foot and threatening to fire unless the big, bad EU gives us what we want.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple  over a year ago

Dudley


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded."

The only person with an hard on was probably you as you wrote this! Lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Plus the price of Australian or south American beef is almost as expensive as European , beef price in Australia today the farmer gets

Equivalent of 3.50 euro per kilo for hormone beef plus shipping shipping cost to UK

Europe it's 3.80 euro/kg hormone free , and a fraction the cost of shipping ,

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Did you read the bit of the speech where he said giving EU27 nationals immigration priority in return for trade is “racist”.

I am struggling to get my head around that.

Can someone enlighten me?

India wants the same.

Unlimited access to universities for trade. Would that be racist too?

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded."

Oh the irony of the last sentence

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag....

You could also be talking about Barnier and his EU chums, or even Varadker!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

Only problem with that idea is that 3 of Ireland's main beef processing plants signed deals to start shipping to China in the last week , its just a minor detail that he missed on

The other thing he might want to think about is without a deal in place if the uk crashes out in March . Is the fact that the uk at any given time has 3 days supply of food ,

So if UK crashed out the uk have no preparation done at its ports for customs , means delays on importation of food , plus when it gets there it will be a lot more expensive , "

Lol where did you pluck that number from

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

Oh the irony of the last sentence

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag....

You could also be talking about Barnier and his EU chums, or even Varadker!"

Was it not the brexiteer leaders and the right wing British newspapers who slagged off the EU first and when it comes back we take umbridge?

We hold all the cards we were told when the UK only represents 6% of the EU 27's exports, whereas the trade between the 27 is 60% - nearly 10 times more! The EU are going to look after themselves first - just like the UK are trying to do. Strange when we do it, then it's ok, but when anyone else does it it's not cricket. De La Rue being a claaic example!

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS  over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

Only problem with that idea is that 3 of Ireland's main beef processing plants signed deals to start shipping to China in the last week , its just a minor detail that he missed on

The other thing he might want to think about is without a deal in place if the uk crashes out in March . Is the fact that the uk at any given time has 3 days supply of food ,

So if UK crashed out the uk have no preparation done at its ports for customs , means delays on importation of food , plus when it gets there it will be a lot more expensive ,

Lol where did you pluck that number from"

The exact number of days is different depending on who is doing the research. But it's only a few days one way or another. All our supermarkets operate their supply on a just in time basis, so that they don't have food sat around going off.

So if there was a delay in foods coming from the EU at border crossings, then that type of supply could be in jeopardy. Not to mention whenever the British public heard that something may run out in supermarkets, they tend to go out and panic buy more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

Only problem with that idea is that 3 of Ireland's main beef processing plants signed deals to start shipping to China in the last week , its just a minor detail that he missed on

The other thing he might want to think about is without a deal in place if the uk crashes out in March . Is the fact that the uk at any given time has 3 days supply of food ,

So if UK crashed out the uk have no preparation done at its ports for customs , means delays on importation of food , plus when it gets there it will be a lot more expensive ,

Lol where did you pluck that number from

The exact number of days is different depending on who is doing the research. But it's only a few days one way or another. All our supermarkets operate their supply on a just in time basis, so that they don't have food sat around going off.

So if there was a delay in foods coming from the EU at border crossings, then that type of supply could be in jeopardy. Not to mention whenever the British public heard that something may run out in supermarkets, they tend to go out and panic buy more. "

Well explained ,

The delays trucks will face going through customs will be crazy the French are expecting 25 to 30 kilometers of tail backs ,

Britain has no preparation done at ports yet ,

Ireland has customs posts under construction in Dublin port , and have the largest short distance freight ferry in the world operating from Dublin to Belgium and holland already to avoid the land bridge that was traditional,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Classic sound biting.

If Irish exports to the uk is negotiating leverage, then n ireland exports is a counter position. And the political clout of NI within the UK is bigger than ireland in the EU ....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How did UK negotiating team leave them selves open to situation where they are liable to divorce bill without a trade deal ???

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/uk-liable-for-divorce-bill-even-with-no-brexit-trade-deal-nao-chief

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

Only problem with that idea is that 3 of Ireland's main beef processing plants signed deals to start shipping to China in the last week , its just a minor detail that he missed on

The other thing he might want to think about is without a deal in place if the uk crashes out in March . Is the fact that the uk at any given time has 3 days supply of food ,

So if UK crashed out the uk have no preparation done at its ports for customs , means delays on importation of food , plus when it gets there it will be a lot more expensive ,

Lol where did you pluck that number from

The exact number of days is different depending on who is doing the research. But it's only a few days one way or another. All our supermarkets operate their supply on a just in time basis, so that they don't have food sat around going off.

So if there was a delay in foods coming from the EU at border crossings, then that type of supply could be in jeopardy. Not to mention whenever the British public heard that something may run out in supermarkets, they tend to go out and panic buy more.

Well explained ,

The delays trucks will face going through customs will be crazy the French are expecting 25 to 30 kilometers of tail backs ,

Britain has no preparation done at ports yet ,

Ireland has customs posts under construction in Dublin port , and have the largest short distance freight ferry in the world operating from Dublin to Belgium and holland already to avoid the land bridge that was traditional,

"

The Road Haulage Association have previously said that checks could cause delays from Dover to Newmarket each day.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“He argued that the UK "should ratchet up the pressure" on the EU in the talks by threatening to not pay the £39bn "divorce bill" - while highlighting the effect on the Irish economy of no trade deal.

"If we were to apply the common external tariff on Irish beef, the Irish agricultural industry is in serious trouble," the backbencher said.”

Treating your neighbours and closest trading partners like a disposable shit bag is probably a great idea if you are Brexit minded.

Only problem with that idea is that 3 of Ireland's main beef processing plants signed deals to start shipping to China in the last week , its just a minor detail that he missed on

The other thing he might want to think about is without a deal in place if the uk crashes out in March . Is the fact that the uk at any given time has 3 days supply of food ,

So if UK crashed out the uk have no preparation done at its ports for customs , means delays on importation of food , plus when it gets there it will be a lot more expensive ,

Lol where did you pluck that number from

The exact number of days is different depending on who is doing the research. But it's only a few days one way or another. All our supermarkets operate their supply on a just in time basis, so that they don't have food sat around going off.

So if there was a delay in foods coming from the EU at border crossings, then that type of supply could be in jeopardy. Not to mention whenever the British public heard that something may run out in supermarkets, they tend to go out and panic buy more.

Well explained ,

The delays trucks will face going through customs will be crazy the French are expecting 25 to 30 kilometers of tail backs ,

Britain has no preparation done at ports yet ,

Ireland has customs posts under construction in Dublin port , and have the largest short distance freight ferry in the world operating from Dublin to Belgium and holland already to avoid the land bridge that was traditional,

The Road Haulage Association have previously said that checks could cause delays from Dover to Newmarket each day. "

Lol taking the car to France on holiday is out of the question for you so , one week in traffic on the way out the second week in traffic trying to get back

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But think about the advantages of it there will be hundreds of hungry truckers stuck in traffic , there is a market there for someone on a motorbike to deliver food to them

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"How did UK negotiating team leave them selves open to situation where they are liable to divorce bill without a trade deal ???

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/uk-liable-for-divorce-bill-even-with-no-brexit-trade-deal-nao-chief"

Because despite what Brexiters like to imagine the UK has no leverage in these negotiations. So when the EU said phase 1 is independent of phase 2 they had to agree.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How did UK negotiating team leave them selves open to situation where they are liable to divorce bill without a trade deal ???

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/uk-liable-for-divorce-bill-even-with-no-brexit-trade-deal-nao-chief

Because despite what Brexiters like to imagine the UK has no leverage in these negotiations. So when the EU said phase 1 is independent of phase 2 they had to agree."

But in all fairness did they send Del boy to negotiate ?

He would have done better

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Classic sound biting.

If Irish exports to the uk is negotiating leverage, then n ireland exports is a counter position. And the political clout of NI within the UK is bigger than ireland in the EU ...."

This makes no sense. You seem to be conflating EU to British trade with internal UK trade

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS  over a year ago

Burton on Trent

Apparently JRM will flee the country if Brexit gets thwarted. Surely that's enough reason to stop it in itself?

What a patriot though...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

He's a dangerous man, just in it for himself. Happy to stir up trouble for his party and country but not man enough to oust Theresa May at this point - only when he sees it as best for him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Classic sound biting.

If Irish exports to the uk is negotiating leverage, then n ireland exports is a counter position. And the political clout of NI within the UK is bigger than ireland in the EU ....

This makes no sense. You seem to be conflating EU to British trade with internal UK trade"

I’ve not made myself clear. If ireland to N ireland exports is a negotiating pawn so is n ireland to ireland exports. So if the Eu cedes ground because ireland kicks up a fuss, the UK cedes more ground because NI kicks up a fuss. Because NI has more sway within the UK than ireland in the EU.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Apparently JRM will flee the country if Brexit gets thwarted. Surely that's enough reason to stop it in itself?

What a patriot though... "

What a knobhead more like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Michel Barnier hit back today with

EU doesn't need the City of London, and that Mays pleaded for special deal won't be rewarded ,

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"Classic sound biting.

If Irish exports to the uk is negotiating leverage, then n ireland exports is a counter position. And the political clout of NI within the UK is bigger than ireland in the EU ....

This makes no sense. You seem to be conflating EU to British trade with internal UK trade

I’ve not made myself clear. If ireland to N ireland exports is a negotiating pawn so is n ireland to ireland exports. So if the Eu cedes ground because ireland kicks up a fuss, the UK cedes more ground because NI kicks up a fuss. Because NI has more sway within the UK than ireland in the EU. "

Ireland - N. Ireland exports arent relevant to the negotiations from a national or continental persoective. Its a very local issue which makes up a small part of border issue.

Ireland can veto the entire Brexit deal, N. Ireland cant. The DUP can withdraw support for the Tories but thats an indirect influence because even if the Tory government falls it likely would be too late to significantly change the outcome of negotiations. Whatever government replaces the Tory/DUP arrangement would have to build on what went before.

N. Ireland has very little clout when it comes to the negotiations but does have clout within the UK government, there is a major difference. The EU also dont care what the makeup of the UK government is. If Mays government falls thats the UKs issue, it wont change the EUs negotiations or positions at all.

The UK as a whole has very little clout in negotiations which is why they keep conceding the key points (paying the Brexit bill in full, seperate stages to the negotiations, a fallback of N.I. staying in regulatory alignment, a shorter transition period by 3 months).

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