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"Released today after doing half of his term. What happens now, born in Welling UK - what can we do? Also is the justice system right 5 years should mean they do 5 years - if they are good - if not they do longer. " I suspect it's to do with resources. He's too expensive to keep in there. They probably spent a pretty penny monitoring him. | |||
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"We will be spending shit loads of money on this scum for years to come "That's the inevitable cost of living in a free ish society, separates us from the vile fuckers that choudry and others would want us to live under.. It's the same costs that we incur for others.. | |||
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"Released today after doing half of his term. What happens now, born in Welling UK - what can we do? Also is the justice system right 5 years should mean they do 5 years - if they are good - if not they do longer. " They should try the US 4/40 model. It’s dead simple. The offender does four years, then is let out on licence (something like our own MAPPA 3 probation). If they break the terms of their licence, then they have to go back to prison for the other 36 years of their sentence. If we did it here we would need a lot more probation officers. | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason." You want to execute people for things they say? | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say? "Well you would not like what he would want done to you | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say? "..you do realise that him and a large majority like him...radical and moderate ( if there is such a thing ) Muslims adhere to the Koran and the Hadith,and in their eyes Islam is the superior religion on earth and should be treated as such and that no man made laws that contradicts the Koran should be respected ( prob why sharia courts are springing up throughout the uk )...and what should worry people who enjoys the freedom's we have including yourself to express ourselfs in certain ways....they believe all nations must submit to Islam and that sharia should be the code of conduct world wide.....( fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah..Koran chapter 8 verse 39 ) ..but hey religion of peace and all that yeah..  MR S. | |||
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"whatever happens ..we, the great british tax payer will keep paying..." Yes but he is a British citizen! No easy solution is there? | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say? ..you do realise that him and a large majority like him...radical and moderate ( if there is such a thing ) Muslims adhere to the Koran and the Hadith,and in their eyes Islam is the superior religion on earth and should be treated as such and that no man made laws that contradicts the Koran should be respected ( prob why sharia courts are springing up throughout the uk )...and what should worry people who enjoys the freedom's we have including yourself to express ourselfs in certain ways....they believe all nations must submit to Islam and that sharia should be the code of conduct world wide.....( fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah..Koran chapter 8 verse 39 ) ..but hey religion of peace and all that yeah.. MR S."This  | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??" would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say? ..you do realise that him and a large majority like him...radical and moderate ( if there is such a thing ) Muslims adhere to the Koran and the Hadith,and in their eyes Islam is the superior religion on earth and should be treated as such and that no man made laws that contradicts the Koran should be respected ( prob why sharia courts are springing up throughout the uk )...and what should worry people who enjoys the freedom's we have including yourself to express ourselfs in certain ways....they believe all nations must submit to Islam and that sharia should be the code of conduct world wide.....( fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah..Koran chapter 8 verse 39 ) ..but hey religion of peace and all that yeah.. MR S."As an atheist who in part teaches science as a profession and as community outreach, I understand your concerns. However, the triumph of the Western legal system is that our courts presume innocence until proven guilty, and freedom from guilt by association. We have to apply that to society down to every individual. | |||
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..you do realise that him and a large majority like him...radical and moderate ( if there is such a thing ) Muslims adhere to the Koran and the Hadith,and in their eyes Islam is the superior religion on earth and should be treated as such?”
*Every religion is like that, and self help book. Take Dianetics for example, self help turned into scientology.
“and that no man made laws that contradicts the Koran should be respected”
*All religious “systems” say a higher power trumps human law.
“ ( prob why sharia courts are springing up throughout the uk )”
*Get your facts straight, Sharia courts are not there to remove UK law, they are there to settle family disputes, divorces and money issues.
*You think an entire legal system could be based on that? Duuuuuh, I don’t think so.
“...and what should worry people who enjoys the freedom's we have including yourself to express ourselfs in certain ways”
*Like all religions they restrict people in certain ways, just saying, like eating no meat, or no contraception, no sex before marriage, becoming detached from property or personal items, or celibacy. Hell they all do it!
“....they believe all nations must submit to Islam and that sharia should be the code of conduct world wide.....( fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah..Koran chapter 8 verse 39 ) ..but hey religion of peace and all that yeah.. ”
*Like all religions again, all systems want to be the number one way of telling you what to do or how to live your life.
*The worst people are the ones who justify the atrocities they commit and utilise religion or systems as the driver.
*Think the Pogroms, the inquistion, the ethnic cleansing in bosnia, the armenian cleansings, the reducation of the uighurs, the aboriginals who were taken from their family and “westernised” by the australian government, pol pot and the khemer rouge, stalins reign of terror.
*All actions, based on religion or systems, through a mistaken sense of moral superiority.
*So before people get on their high horses. Think there are dickheads everywhere, anjem is one, tommy is another. All religious and racial extremists are cunts. Plain and simple.
*I know that is the “populist view” of that issue! | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say? ..you do realise that him and a large majority like him...radical and moderate ( if there is such a thing ) Muslims adhere to the Koran and the Hadith,and in their eyes Islam is the superior religion on earth and should be treated as such and that no man made laws that contradicts the Koran should be respected ( prob why sharia courts are springing up throughout the uk )...and what should worry people who enjoys the freedom's we have including yourself to express ourselfs in certain ways....they believe all nations must submit to Islam and that sharia should be the code of conduct world wide.....( fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah..Koran chapter 8 verse 39 ) ..but hey religion of peace and all that yeah.. MR S."You could make exactly the same argument about christianity and its texts that encourage genocide of non-believers. Both the bible and the koran contain elements that are utterly disgusting. I recall a study carried out in Amsterdam. People were read excerpts and asked to identify the book they came from. Most replied "koran". The answer was "bible". But to suggest that a majority - muslim or christian - adhere to every word in their textbooks . . . well, that is prejudice on a gargantuan scale. Just as there are christians past and present who justify their violence against non-believers, so too there are muslims who do the same. Both are scum. Always have been and always will be. | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say?
Well you would not like what he would want done to you "All sounding a bit Al Qaedaish  | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say? ..you do realise that him and a large majority like him...radical and moderate ( if there is such a thing ) Muslims adhere to the Koran and the Hadith,and in their eyes Islam is the superior religion on earth and should be treated as such and that no man made laws that contradicts the Koran should be respected ( prob why sharia courts are springing up throughout the uk )...and what should worry people who enjoys the freedom's we have including yourself to express ourselfs in certain ways....they believe all nations must submit to Islam and that sharia should be the code of conduct world wide.....( fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah..Koran chapter 8 verse 39 ) ..but hey religion of peace and all that yeah.. MR S.
You could make exactly the same argument about christianity and its texts that encourage genocide of non-believers.
Both the bible and the koran contain elements that are utterly disgusting.
I recall a study carried out in Amsterdam. People were read excerpts and asked to identify the book they came from. Most replied "koran". The answer was "bible".
But to suggest that a majority - muslim or christian - adhere to every word in their textbooks . . . well, that is prejudice on a gargantuan scale.
Just as there are christians past and present who justify their violence against non-believers, so too there are muslims who do the same.
Both are scum. Always have been and always will be.
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S" Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say?
Well you would not like what he would want done to you "Don’t they push gay people off the top of tall buildings? Blimey, there are many reasons why people should not be singled out because of who they are, and we have the law to enforce that here. But the jihadists don’t just insult people, they beat torture and kill them. Perhaps these things need to be explained again, just so we are all sure. Choudry is pro ISIS, and therefore wants to push gay people off those skyscrapers, behead those who refuse to convert to Suni Islam, and stone people to death in the street for minor sexual indiscretions including adultery. But we must be careful not to seem unkind, give him the chance to actually do something himself first. It’s not his fault those of whom he incites with his poison, actually commit horrendous crimes, is it? | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? " So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not. | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not." Forgive me, I posed a simple question. What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary or any Islamist for that matter? | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason. You want to execute people for things they say?
Well you would not like what he would want done to you
Don’t they push gay people off the top of tall buildings? Blimey, there are many reasons why people should not be singled out because of who they are, and we have the law to enforce that here. But the jihadists don’t just insult people, they beat torture and kill them.
Perhaps these things need to be explained again, just so we are all sure. Choudry is pro ISIS, and therefore wants to push gay people off those skyscrapers, behead those who refuse to convert to Suni Islam, and stone people to death in the street for minor sexual indiscretions including adultery.
But we must be careful not to seem unkind, give him the chance to actually do something himself first. It’s not his fault those of whom he incites with his poison, actually commit horrendous crimes, is it?"I haven't seen anyone on this thread supporting Choudary's views or being sympathetic to his plight. | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here " White haters? That's quite a leap. | |||
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"Lol well tommy is a hater and white isn’t he " Sorry I responded to a post I didn't understand. | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here " Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here " and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing.... | |||
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"Just moving away from the religious debate for a moment. I always thought that to be released early, on license, from a prison sentence you had to: 1. Have been of good behaviour while in prison. 2. Show remorse for your crime. 3. Not be a danger to society. Maybe he could tick the box on number one but I very much doubt he has shown any remorse and he is still seen as dangerous. So the question is. Why the hell is he out?" To coin a phrase " the law is an ass" | |||
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"Just moving away from the religious debate for a moment. I always thought that to be released early, on license, from a prison sentence you had to: 1. Have been of good behaviour while in prison. 2. Show remorse for your crime. 3. Not be a danger to society. Maybe he could tick the box on number one but I very much doubt he has shown any remorse and he is still seen as dangerous. So the question is. Why the hell is he out?" the problem is that is not a judges decision... its a law decision because it this government that but this is place (basically anyone who is sentenced to more that 5 years is eligable to basically serve half in jail and half on license if they are deemed not to be a danger to the public) his licensing restrictions are so severe that it is deemed he can't be a danger... for example, not allowed to talk to the press, not allowed to go online, not allowed to publically speak at events, not allow to talk to certain individuals, only allowed to go to certain mosques, not allowed to travel outside the m25, under house arrest after 8pm, will be electronically tagged, and so on and so on.... and if he breaks any of the 25 restrictions then he will go straight back to jail to serve out the rest of his term | |||
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"He obviously hates the west and is an extreme Islamic. However he is a British citizen born here 51yrs ago and has "British rights"! The question is if he hates the UK so much why stay? Go to Afghanistan or wherever his views are tolerated - yes/no?" Because that’s the way with religions, they see it as thier right to spread it as far over the world as possible. Just like the Mormons who travel a role the world preaching thier teaching trying to recruit more followers. Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them | |||
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"Just moving away from the religious debate for a moment. I always thought that to be released early, on license, from a prison sentence you had to: 1. Have been of good behaviour while in prison. 2. Show remorse for your crime. 3. Not be a danger to society. Maybe he could tick the box on number one but I very much doubt he has shown any remorse and he is still seen as dangerous. So the question is. Why the hell is he out? the problem is that is not a judges decision... its a law decision because it this government that but this is place (basically anyone who is sentenced to more that 5 years is eligable to basically serve half in jail and half on license if they are deemed not to be a danger to the public) his licensing restrictions are so severe that it is deemed he can't be a danger... for example, not allowed to talk to the press, not allowed to go online, not allowed to publically speak at events, not allow to talk to certain individuals, only allowed to go to certain mosques, not allowed to travel outside the m25, under house arrest after 8pm, will be electronically tagged, and so on and so on.... and if he breaks any of the 25 restrictions then he will go straight back to jail to serve out the rest of his term" This is true but him with crowds of photographers publishing phots of him grinning like a Cheshire Cat speaks volumes to his followers and other idiots | |||
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"He obviously hates the west and is an extreme Islamic. However he is a British citizen born here 51yrs ago and has "British rights"! The question is if he hates the UK so much why stay? Go to Afghanistan or wherever his views are tolerated - yes/no? Because that’s the way with religions, they see it as thier right to spread it as far over the world as possible. Just like the Mormons who travel a role the world preaching thier teaching trying to recruit more followers. Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them" But what's the solution - loads of opinions but no solutions! | |||
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"He obviously hates the west and is an extreme Islamic. However he is a British citizen born here 51yrs ago and has "British rights"! The question is if he hates the UK so much why stay? Go to Afghanistan or wherever his views are tolerated - yes/no? Because that’s the way with religions, they see it as thier right to spread it as far over the world as possible. Just like the Mormons who travel a role the world preaching thier teaching trying to recruit more followers. Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them But what's the solution - loads of opinions but no solutions! " If we were Russians it would be easy but as British we are bound by a sence of fair play | |||
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"He obviously hates the west and is an extreme Islamic. However he is a British citizen born here 51yrs ago and has "British rights"! The question is if he hates the UK so much why stay? Go to Afghanistan or wherever his views are tolerated - yes/no? Because that’s the way with religions, they see it as thier right to spread it as far over the world as possible. Just like the Mormons who travel a role the world preaching thier teaching trying to recruit more followers. Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them" Historically, Extremists, and I mean all extremists killed everyone who did not comply. It’s time you took a history lesson, human history has been littered with blood at the hand of extremists. Narrow thought, leads to narrow Ideas, leads to a narrow mind. Expand your outlook, and realise. Man is not a perfect being, hypocrisy is everywhere. | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right..." Just to be clear. All intolerant people of various degrees, from you and your I’ll informed rant, to Tommy Robinson, to Choudry, to Trump, to Abu Hamza etc are all parts of the same hate filled problem. Should there be a line between free speech and hate speech? For me personally, people will say and think anything anyway. So we should not have regulation to stop them. But all reasonable people should correct them, and have the freedom to call them out on their bullshit. This would be a much more effective method of ridding their views from society. The right wingers love to use “free speech” to defend hate speech, then bitch and moan when other people use the same freedom to tell them that their rhetoric is a load of bollocks. | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not." Well I can say this for tommy, he’s got you convinced, it didn’t take much for you to be groomed, just like anjem did to those muslims. Here’s another thing, a person who shows a picture of himself with a rifle, is making up for some deficiency  | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing...." _abio iv never read a post of you where u come out against Asian grooming gangs it’s weird mate was this Cardiff grooming gang all British white men targeting Asian school girls iv not read anything about them ? | |||
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",you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts..." If you know how English law works youll know we're not heading to a 'twin legal system' or anything like it. It's that kind of false assumption rhetoric that gives succour to the extremists on both sides. | |||
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"He obviously hates the west and is an extreme Islamic. However he is a British citizen born here 51yrs ago and has "British rights"! The question is if he hates the UK so much why stay? Go to Afghanistan or wherever his views are tolerated - yes/no? Because that’s the way with religions, they see it as thier right to spread it as far over the world as possible. Just like the Mormons who travel a role the world preaching thier teaching trying to recruit more followers. Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them Historically, Extremists, and I mean all extremists killed everyone who did not comply. It’s time you took a history lesson, human history has been littered with blood at the hand of extremists. Narrow thought, leads to narrow Ideas, leads to a narrow mind. Expand your outlook, and realise. Man is not a perfect being, hypocrisy is everywhere. " | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right..." Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol " Great examples there | |||
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" and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right..." No not 'anyone', just the far right ones. | |||
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"He obviously hates the west and is an extreme Islamic. However he is a British citizen born here 51yrs ago and has "British rights"! The question is if he hates the UK so much why stay? Go to Afghanistan or wherever his views are tolerated - yes/no? Because that’s the way with religions, they see it as thier right to spread it as far over the world as possible. Just like the Mormons who travel a role the world preaching thier teaching trying to recruit more followers. Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them" Exactly | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not. Well I can say this for tommy, he’s got you convinced, it didn’t take much for you to be groomed, just like anjem did to those muslims. Here’s another thing, a person who shows a picture of himself with a rifle, is making up for some deficiency "oh shit...i better change it so my deficiency offends your little heart...or may guns scare you | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol " So it's all a big lie that their are no sharia courts in the uk and that no go areas exist in the uk.. | |||
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" Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them Exactly" More nonesense. In my five decades of life I've never encountered a Muslim who wants to kill me or has done me harm other than feed me a maliciously hot curry on a particularly racous Friday night. That's not to say such Muslims don't exist but they're very much in the minority. What's your day to day experience of Muslims? Met many who want to kill you? | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing...._abio iv never read a post of you where u come out against Asian grooming gangs it’s weird mate was this Cardiff grooming gang all British white men targeting Asian school girls iv not read anything about them ?" husband and wife. I don’t know the ethnicity of the victims. Does it matter ? | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing...._abio iv never read a post of you where u come out against Asian grooming gangs it’s weird mate was this Cardiff grooming gang all British white men targeting Asian school girls iv not read anything about them ?husband and wife. I don’t know the ethnicity of the victims. Does it matter ?" well a husband and wife are hardly an organized grooming gang and the Asian gangs target young white British girls so I’d say it does | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing...._abio iv never read a post of you where u come out against Asian grooming gangs it’s weird mate was this Cardiff grooming gang all British white men targeting Asian school girls iv not read anything about them ?husband and wife. I don’t know the ethnicity of the victims. Does it matter ? well a husband and wife are hardly an organized grooming gang and the Asian gangs target young white British girls so I’d say it does " id agree it’s not a gang... but they had a number of victims, not too far off the recent gang. Still don’t know why what race they “target” makes a difference ? Or indeed that race of the perpetrators. | |||
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" Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them Exactly More nonesense. In my five decades of life I've never encountered a Muslim who wants to kill me or has done me harm other than feed me a maliciously hot curry on a particularly racous Friday night. That's not to say such Muslims don't exist but they're very much in the minority. What's your day to day experience of Muslims? Met many who want to kill you? " Not really as I don’t mix with many Muslims  I think it’s all a croc of doodahh the same as any other religions | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing...._abio iv never read a post of you where u come out against Asian grooming gangs it’s weird mate was this Cardiff grooming gang all British white men targeting Asian school girls iv not read anything about them ?husband and wife. I don’t know the ethnicity of the victims. Does it matter ? well a husband and wife are hardly an organized grooming gang and the Asian gangs target young white British girls so I’d say it does id agree it’s not a gang... but they had a number of victims, not too far off the recent gang. Still don’t know why what race they “target” makes a difference ? Or indeed that race of the perpetrators. " because it’s not just a sex crime it’s also a race crime aswell if it was white male gangs targeting young Asian girls do you not think it would be a race crime also ? | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol So it's all a big lie that their are no sharia courts in the uk and that no go areas exist in the uk.." I'd stop listening to Donald Trump if I was you | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol So it's all a big lie that their are no sharia courts in the uk and that no go areas exist in the uk.. I'd stop listening to Donald Trump if I was you "Yeah because it's trump putting that out there.. | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here and yet nothing about the cardiff gang of groomers who were convicted exactly 24 hrs before.... if you end up mentioning one... but not mentioning the other, then people will ask if there is a motive behind doing that........ best guess is that is don't serve the narrative someone people are pushing...._abio iv never read a post of you where u come out against Asian grooming gangs it’s weird mate was this Cardiff grooming gang all British white men targeting Asian school girls iv not read anything about them ?husband and wife. I don’t know the ethnicity of the victims. Does it matter ? well a husband and wife are hardly an organized grooming gang and the Asian gangs target young white British girls so I’d say it does id agree it’s not a gang... but they had a number of victims, not too far off the recent gang. Still don’t know why what race they “target” makes a difference ? Or indeed that race of the perpetrators. because it’s not just a sex crime it’s also a race crime aswell if it was white male gangs targeting young Asian girls do you not think it would be a race crime also ?" can white people not target white victims ? Tbh I feel focusing on race of the perpetrators and victims risks providing a platform for another agenda, rather than protecting the vunerable. The news coverage and out rage for the Cardiff couple has been minimal. | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol " Good to see you can know law so well so I'm sure your good at figures....2004 survey showed 26% of British Muslims had no loyalty to Britain.....13% DEFENDED Islamic terrorism and 1% were engaged in terrorist activity at home or abroad or supported such activity but you'll say 1% is a small number ( I'm sure ye will ) so that leaves you with only sixteen thousand terrorists or terrorist supporters amount British Muslims..but it's such a small number and it was waay back in 2004 so I'm sure you'll be fine.. | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol Good to see you can know law so well so I'm sure your good at figures....2004 survey showed 26% of British Muslims had no loyalty to Britain.....13% DEFENDED Islamic terrorism and 1% were engaged in terrorist activity at home or abroad or supported such activity but you'll say 1% is a small number ( I'm sure ye will ) so that leaves you with only sixteen thousand terrorists or terrorist supporters amount British Muslims..but it's such a small number and it was waay back in 2004 so I'm sure you'll be fine.." Could you provide a link to this 14 year old 'survey' so we can make a full assessment of salient points? Thanks | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ?" Would that make it a little more acceptable for you? | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ?" If they had been preying in Asian girls thier own community would have got more involved bacause they were white blind eyes were turned | |||
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" What's your day to day experience of Muslims? Met many who want to kill you? Not really as I don’t mix with many Muslims I think it’s all a croc of doodahh the same as any other religions "You can 'mix' with Muslims without being inculcated you know! Ps I think Islam is a crock of doodah too but am still able to count Muslims I know as friends. | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ? If they had been preying in Asian girls thier own community would have got more involved bacause they were white blind eyes were turned " *Sigh* like the football coach abuses, care home abuses, celebrity abuses, Catholic school abuses?? | |||
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"Sake I’d shit this is about choudry but we end up with what about Christianity and the white haters like tommy this is what’s happening as soon as the Asian grooming gangs are mentioned on here Just Asian ( sorry Muslim ) r##e gangs...let's not do a sky news here....a minority ( which is growing ) is dictating to the majority in England,you guys are all ready heading quietly to a twin legal system in the uk...one the law of the land in England the other sharia courts...choudry wants sharia...sharia is a part of Islam and Islam is not tolerance and peace and teddy bears ...my god you had an off duty soldier hacked to death in broad daylight on the streets off England amongst a litany of other terrorist attacks and anyone who high lights this or anything else is far right... Jeeeze! You join a golf club and you abide by their rules. But their rules do not trump the law of the land. Some people choose to join a community group and abide by sharia rules. Similarly, those rules do not trump the law of the land. Twin legal system? Lololololol Good to see you can know law so well so I'm sure your good at figures....2004 survey showed 26% of British Muslims had no loyalty to Britain.....13% DEFENDED Islamic terrorism and 1% were engaged in terrorist activity at home or abroad or supported such activity but you'll say 1% is a small number ( I'm sure ye will ) so that leaves you with only sixteen thousand terrorists or terrorist supporters amount British Muslims..but it's such a small number and it was waay back in 2004 so I'm sure you'll be fine.. Could you provide a link to this 14 year old 'survey' so we can make a full assessment of salient points? Thanks " .... | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ? Would that make it a little more acceptable for you?" don’t be so stupid why say that I was pointing out it’s a race crime aswel as a sex crime because of how they see young white girls | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ? If they had been preying in Asian girls thier own community would have got more involved bacause they were white blind eyes were turned *Sigh* like the football coach abuses, care home abuses, celebrity abuses, Catholic school abuses??" Yes blind eyes were also turned there as well but this was a group of 12 Asian men, are you trying to say that nobody else in thier community did not know ? It is as abhorrent to me as it is to you but something on that scale is hard to hind for so long | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ? If they had been preying in Asian girls thier own community would have got more involved bacause they were white blind eyes were turned *Sigh* like the football coach abuses, care home abuses, celebrity abuses, Catholic school abuses??" And none of that abuse should have been allowed only a twisted individual would think so but it was condemned...it was highlighted and hopefully justice served....or do you think because those abuses happend..at risk white girl's should be ignored for political correctness and multiculturalism ..Huddersfield..Muslim R##E gang of 20 men used,abused and degraded white English girls as young as 11,one piece of scum fled to Pakistan..the shock huh..but the real kick in the face to these young girls was the English justice system..these F###S got between 5/6 years...are you ok with that...choudry preaches hate from the Koran...a book that is utterly contemptuous to all non Muslims ( a clue for you there that's us including u )...and a religion still rooted in 7th century teachings which people like u think are compatible with democracy and equality so is it any wonder Muslim men treat non Muslims especially women with contempt as has been the case with every R##E gang that has been uncovered... | |||
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"Anyone care to guess the religion of the ringleader of this “Muslim” r@pe gang ?" well it wasn't the Dali lama... | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not. Well I can say this for tommy, he’s got you convinced, it didn’t take much for you to be groomed, just like anjem did to those muslims. Here’s another thing, a person who shows a picture of himself with a rifle, is making up for some deficiency oh shit...i better change it so my deficiency offends your little heart...or may guns scare you "Oh not at all, but when someone is holding a rifle in a picture on a swinging site it does beg the question, is there something mentally wrong the person | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ? If they had been preying in Asian girls thier own community would have got more involved bacause they were white blind eyes were turned *Sigh* like the football coach abuses, care home abuses, celebrity abuses, Catholic school abuses??And none of that abuse should have been allowed only a twisted individual would think so but it was condemned...it was highlighted and hopefully justice served....or do you think because those abuses happend..at risk white girl's should be ignored for political correctness and multiculturalism ..Huddersfield..Muslim R##E gang of 20 men used,abused and degraded white English girls as young as 11,one piece of scum fled to Pakistan..the shock huh..but the real kick in the face to these young girls was the English justice system..these F###S got between 5/6 years...are you ok with that...choudry preaches hate from the Koran...a book that is utterly contemptuous to all non Muslims ( a clue for you there that's us including u )...and a religion still rooted in 7th century teachings which people like u think are compatible with democracy and equality so is it any wonder Muslim men treat non Muslims especially women with contempt as has been the case with every R##E gang that has been uncovered... "7th century teaching, christianity is 1st Century teaching, are you saying christianity is not compatible also then? I am 100% certain there are many “men” who treat women contempt, you don’t need to be muslim to be a pussy grabbing, sexist, cheating bigot, look who in the white house now  | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not. Well I can say this for tommy, he’s got you convinced, it didn’t take much for you to be groomed, just like anjem did to those muslims. Here’s another thing, a person who shows a picture of himself with a rifle, is making up for some deficiency oh shit...i better change it so my deficiency offends your little heart...or may guns scare you
Oh not at all, but when someone is holding a rifle in a picture on a swinging site it does beg the question, is there something mentally wrong the person "so it's mentally wrong to serves ones country.....hope you don't think that of your fellow country men who wear a uniform and pick up a rifle.. | |||
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"Can Asian not target Asian girls then ? If they had been preying in Asian girls thier own community would have got more involved bacause they were white blind eyes were turned *Sigh* like the football coach abuses, care home abuses, celebrity abuses, Catholic school abuses??And none of that abuse should have been allowed only a twisted individual would think so but it was condemned...it was highlighted and hopefully justice served....or do you think because those abuses happend..at risk white girl's should be ignored for political correctness and multiculturalism ..Huddersfield..Muslim R##E gang of 20 men used,abused and degraded white English girls as young as 11,one piece of scum fled to Pakistan..the shock huh..but the real kick in the face to these young girls was the English justice system..these F###S got between 5/6 years...are you ok with that...choudry preaches hate from the Koran...a book that is utterly contemptuous to all non Muslims ( a clue for you there that's us including u )...and a religion still rooted in 7th century teachings which people like u think are compatible with democracy and equality so is it any wonder Muslim men treat non Muslims especially women with contempt as has been the case with every R##E gang that has been uncovered...
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" Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them Exactly More nonesense. In my five decades of life I've never encountered a Muslim who wants to kill me or has done me harm other than feed me a maliciously hot curry on a particularly racous Friday night. That's not to say such Muslims don't exist but they're very much in the minority. What's your day to day experience of Muslims? Met many who want to kill you? " Exactly There are people in this country who are losing all sense of perspective about this. We lived in Bolton for a few years and many of our neighbours were Muslims. They were overwhelmingly friendly and neighbourly and always displayed very strong family values with all ages in every generation having family responsibilities. Radicalisation is clearly a problem as is this issue with Grooming, but it is not mainstream - nowhere even close. If it was everyone else would have been dead long ago lol | |||
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" Only difference is they don’t want to kill everyone who does not comply with them Exactly More nonesense. In my five decades of life I've never encountered a Muslim who wants to kill me or has done me harm other than feed me a maliciously hot curry on a particularly racous Friday night. That's not to say such Muslims don't exist but they're very much in the minority. What's your day to day experience of Muslims? Met many who want to kill you? Exactly There are people in this country who are losing all sense of perspective about this. We lived in Bolton for a few years and many of our neighbours were Muslims. They were overwhelmingly friendly and neighbourly and always displayed very strong family values with all ages in every generation having family responsibilities. Radicalisation is clearly a problem as is this issue with Grooming, but it is not mainstream - nowhere even close. If it was everyone else would have been dead long ago lol" I would love to see in 15/20 years time you still think so.... | |||
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" Good to see you can know law so well so I'm sure your good at figures....2004 survey showed 26% of British Muslims had no loyalty to Britain.....13% DEFENDED Islamic terrorism and 1% were engaged in terrorist activity at home or abroad or supported such activity but you'll say 1% is a small number ( I'm sure ye will ) so that leaves you with only sixteen thousand terrorists or terrorist supporters amount British Muslims..but it's such a small number and it was waay back in 2004 so I'm sure you'll be fine.." I seem to recall the Sun splashing that on its front page. It was followed by an apology when shown to be fake news. | |||
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"He's a groomer of vulnerable people much like a pedophile .A pathetic human being that without his ability to to communicate his hate is a nobody." | |||
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" Good to see you can know law so well so I'm sure your good at figures....2004 survey showed 26% of British Muslims had no loyalty to Britain.....13% DEFENDED Islamic terrorism and 1% were engaged in terrorist activity at home or abroad or supported such activity but you'll say 1% is a small number ( I'm sure ye will ) so that leaves you with only sixteen thousand terrorists or terrorist supporters amount British Muslims..but it's such a small number and it was waay back in 2004 so I'm sure you'll be fine.. I seem to recall the Sun splashing that on its front page. It was followed by an apology when shown to be fake news. " fake news or as it has been the case in the past that if something offends Muslims sensibility's it's taken down straight away....as it seems when the Muslim nation is offended in some small way no matter how trivial it responds violently.....or was the Charlie hebdo murders fake news too. | |||
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"No, it was shown to be fake news. People complained in their thousands to the press body. The Sun completely misinterpreted the survey in order to make the story fit a narrative to smear every muslim. Just as you are doing. When it comes to Islamic terrorism, by the far the greatest number of victims are . . . other muslims. Just as most people during the Irish troubles could distinguish between an Irish citizen and an Irish criminal, so most people today can distinguish between a muslim citizen and a muslim criminal. Despite your best attempts to smear all as terrorist fanatics. Are you a Russian bot? " il laugh at the Russian bot...il peg you as some one very disappointed Clinton lost the presidency to trump if so get over it...as for the Irish comparison don't even go there both are nothing alike | |||
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" Good to see you can know law so well so I'm sure your good at figures....2004 survey showed 26% of British Muslims had no loyalty to Britain.....13% DEFENDED Islamic terrorism and 1% were engaged in terrorist activity at home or abroad or supported such activity but you'll say 1% is a small number ( I'm sure ye will ) so that leaves you with only sixteen thousand terrorists or terrorist supporters amount British Muslims..but it's such a small number and it was waay back in 2004 so I'm sure you'll be fine.. I seem to recall the Sun splashing that on its front page. It was followed by an apology when shown to be fake news. fake news or as it has been the case in the past that if something offends Muslims sensibility's it's taken down straight away....as it seems when the Muslim nation is offended in some small way no matter how trivial it responds violently.....or was the Charlie hebdo murders fake news too." Fake news has to be banned! Only the facts need to be reported on | |||
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"Varied comments but what are the solutions? How do we solve the problem of "Freed terrorists or those returning from the likes of Syria? How do we prevent radicalisation? As much as we moan about it what should the government be doing (other than brexit)? I personally think we start with sentencing - if someone is sentenced to 5 years that's what they do - if they are a model prisoner - if not they get time added on. Terrorism by its very nature is it ever safe to let them out?" Potential solutions? Let's stop demonising a whole religion/culture based on the activities of a minority. Impressionable youth are drawn to the fringes if they're not embraced by the mainstream. The problem with Islamic terrorism is that often the perpetrators are dead, killed by their own hand. So we need to support and develop the Prevent agenda to stop young Muslims being indoctrinated into extremism. Have a programme of moving extremists around different prisons to reduce the influence of extremist leaders within prisons, also watch closely who these prisoners congregate with and disrupt their associations (sure this is probably done already). Promote inclusivity and equality in schools/colleges/workplaces, Muslims don't have three heads but some need to be encouraged to participate, women especially who have a big influence on their children. Convicted terrorists already receive mandatory life sentences with high minimums, let's make sure they spend the best part of their lives in jail. | |||
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"Regarding schools I would ban all faith schools .No Islamic schools no catholic schools .It's religious apartheid and only creates problems.You want integration then start with children .Thats your only hope ." No idea about Islamic schools but catholic/CofE schools have a mix of pupils from all backgrounds/faiths they are not exclusively for children of that faith so there is no apartheid going on !  | |||
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"He is a poster-boy for return of the Treason Act and capital punishment for treason and inciting treason." Oh I do agree,bring it on | |||
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"Regarding schools I would ban all faith schools .No Islamic schools no catholic schools .It's religious apartheid and only creates problems.You want integration then start with children .Thats your only hope ." you won't GET integration with Islam...you have one choice CONVERT or Die | |||
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".you won't GET integration with Islam...you have one choice CONVERT or Die Oh please!! Do you know how foolish that statement makes you look?! "Maybe to a liberal like you.....or maybe you should open a history book...or better yet talk to the victims of the 22 or so Asian ( ie muslin ) R##E gangs who's victims are mostly white..Christian..English girls to see what Muslim men think of them...but then it doesn't affect some one like you so it seems your fine with that and ANYONE who speaks out against it in yours liberal...leftist mind is a racist and islamiphob.....see how that works out for you in a few years | |||
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".you won't GET integration with Islam...you have one choice CONVERT or Die Oh please!! Do you know how foolish that statement makes you look?! "When did telling the truth make one look foolish? Oh hang on, it’s when the ones pointing the finger at you are pc drones and members of self interest groups. If they get their way, we will have to convert or die. Anjem Choudary will end up with a seat in Parliament. Way to go libtards! | |||
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"I wonder if the Muslim council of Britain put the pressure on and the government gave in and released him??would that be the same Muslim council of Britain that got a young squaddie his ticket because he got his pic taken with Tommy Robinson...yes yes it would..if that's not political correctness gone F##KING arse about face I don't know what isn't...a group with links to Islamist terrorist's complain to goverment about a picture of a critic of Islamists and a group of squaddies and the great British goverment bow dow to PC correctness by a minority group and S##T themselves and throw a young soldier under the bus..MR S Why would a member of the serving military want to have his picture taken with the leader of a far right organisation? What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary? So your happy with a Muslim organisation with links to hate speech dictating to the British military...your armed forces by the way..and calling the shoots..as for far right I'm tired of hearing that PC BULL#####.....it's not just whites that support Tommy Robinson...i just wonder why people like you get so upset about him and the things he's highlighted happening in your country when the BBC / CHANNEL 4 or SKY NEWS is either deliberately silent or just doesn't care .....but yeah he's far right because he's seeing what your not. Forgive me, I posed a simple question. What would be your view of a Muslim soldier being pictured with Anjem Choudary or any Islamist for that matter?" Comparing tommy robinson to anjem choudary is moronic , i have never heard TR call for all non whites or non christians to be killed , because he is against religous extremism he gets called far right ......... if you actually listen to what he says in interviews , he is all for gay rights , gay marriage , peaceful religious worship and has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . If you actually listened to him properly , he is closer to being a liberal than right wing. | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . " Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims? | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims?" We had an au-pair in the 90's - lovely girl - learnt so much about their culture. | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims?" Acolytes... ...think you have things the wrong way around...choudry has Acolytes...last time I checked ( and il make a list if you want ) it wasn't Jews for example blowing up buses...mowing people down as they walked to work...hacking and stabbing people and openly calling for the death of British soldiers and demanding sharia law for England....but yeah Tommy Robinson is the problem....for pointing out what msm media won't and what people like you refuse to see.. | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims?Acolytes... ...think you have things the wrong way around...choudry has Acolytes...last time I checked ( and il make a list if you want ) it wasn't Jews for example blowing up buses...mowing people down as they walked to work...hacking and stabbing people and openly calling for the death of British soldiers and demanding sharia law for England....but yeah Tommy Robinson is the problem....for pointing out what msm media won't and what people like you refuse to see.."You, Choudry, Robinson, all the same kind of hate filled people. | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims?Acolytes... ...think you have things the wrong way around...choudry has Acolytes...last time I checked ( and il make a list if you want ) it wasn't Jews for example blowing up buses...mowing people down as they walked to work...hacking and stabbing people and openly calling for the death of British soldiers and demanding sharia law for England....but yeah Tommy Robinson is the problem....for pointing out what msm media won't and what people like you refuse to see..
You, Choudry, Robinson, all the same kind of hate filled people."No they are not the same, even though I don’t like Robinson I will stick up for him on this. Choudary is a religious fundamentalist, who has been stirring up hatred of the West among his fellow Islamists. His preaching of hatred includes encouraging Muslims who reside here to go to the Middle East and join ISIS. One of the killers of Lee Rigby was among his flock, as well as poppy burners and the like. He continued to incite hatred and push for Sharia law in this land. His incitement is not only for violence, but for murder and terrorism. Robinson spoke out against the Islamification of England, the disrespect being shown by groups like that of Choudary’s against our dead servicemen, and the Sharia courts that are popping up throughout this land. Later, as news came through about the grooming, raping, drugging and prostitution of little white girls by mainly Pakistani Muslims, he spoke out about this too. The only thing he encouraged was public outrage and protests. He tried to get his message across to the masses, but was not successful, because he is a crap orator who cannot finish a sentence without swearing. I would say that Choudary is a big little man, and Robinson is a little big man. | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims?Acolytes... ...think you have things the wrong way around...choudry has Acolytes...last time I checked ( and il make a list if you want ) it wasn't Jews for example blowing up buses...mowing people down as they walked to work...hacking and stabbing people and openly calling for the death of British soldiers and demanding sharia law for England....but yeah Tommy Robinson is the problem....for pointing out what msm media won't and what people like you refuse to see.."Do you know what acolytes mean? Your comment's incongruous to the post I was responding to. | |||
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" has nothing against muslims that want to integrate . Yes but does he and his acolytes want to integrate with Muslims?Acolytes... ...think you have things the wrong way around...choudry has Acolytes...last time I checked ( and il make a list if you want ) it wasn't Jews for example blowing up buses...mowing people down as they walked to work...hacking and stabbing people and openly calling for the death of British soldiers and demanding sharia law for England....but yeah Tommy Robinson is the problem....for pointing out what msm media won't and what people like you refuse to see..
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Do you know what acolytes mean?
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country" But Anjem Choudary is ok, yes? Sounds like you are an “extremist cunt!” | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country But Anjem Choudary is ok, yes? Sounds like you are an “extremist cunt!” " so as usual you make shit up which you then pretend i said and then you go on to call me a cunt .... good work | |||
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"Regarding schools I would ban all faith schools .No Islamic schools no catholic schools .It's religious apartheid and only creates problems.You want integration then start with children .Thats your only hope ." I agree up to a point. If people want their children educated in a faith school, that should be their choice. But like any private school, it should be funded by those parents, not by the taxpayer. | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country But Anjem Choudary is ok, yes? Sounds like you are an “extremist cunt!” so as usual you make shit up which you then pretend i said and then you go on to call me a cunt .... good work "This is a thread about Anjem Choudary, and you didn’t mention his name, or say anything about his supporters. You just ranted about Robinson and his supporters, calling them cunts and saying they want removing from life in this country. So what about Cowdary and his supporters? Come on! | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country" do you think choudry should be removed from this country aswell or just Robinson and his supporters ? | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country" So I guess this means your a fan muslambs and a corbyn loving anti Semite .Seems legit as you've disrespected our tommy. | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country So I guess this means your a fan muslambs and a corbyn loving anti Semite .Seems legit as you've disrespected our tommy. "aslong as you don’t disrespect choudry and his friends tho eh bob | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country So I guess this means your a fan muslambs and a corbyn loving anti Semite .Seems legit as you've disrespected our tommy. aslong as you don’t disrespect choudry and his friends tho eh bob "WoW LoL | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country But Anjem Choudary is ok, yes? Sounds like you are an “extremist cunt!” so as usual you make shit up which you then pretend i said and then you go on to call me a cunt .... good work
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"Just waiting for the other two to pop up with some rants about how vile Robinson is ( which he is btw ) and totally ignor anything about choudry lol " I can fill in while you're waiting dude ..has anyone mentioned Jimi saville yet? | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho " Not sure i follow here but i know il be labelled as racist / islamophic all the usual far left BS names....what the church did was wrong what the BBC did was wrong....and you think it only happened in the Catholic Church,really ..R##E of any form is Fking wrong......but this was race hate and R##E combined..the girls where abused because 1 they were white 2 non Muslim 3 no one cared about them....but somehow what happened these girls is seen as less important...why because they where sacrificed in the name of political correctness and the need of the British public to not be seen as racist...so they chose to ignore from the Police right down to social services those that needed them most while a shit bag like choudry got to freely preach and spew hate in public for years from a book most adhere to... | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho " Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder.. | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder.. "What happened on Ryan air | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder.. "Yes, the incident on Ryanair was just as bad as the grooming gangs
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder.. "bob there’s not even a thread about Ryan air iv looked so how can ppl comment anyway | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder..
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder.. bob there’s not even a thread about Ryan air iv looked so how can ppl comment anyway "I know shocking isn't it .I think Fabio mentioned it in another thread ... | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder..
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"Aw I could of guessed it would be _abio like lol" Good old Fabio...You would miss him if he left be honest .I miss CLCC.Good times. | |||
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"Is it an assumption all the victims were white ? I can’t find it from a quick google ... and would have thought someone somewhere would have majored on this ..." I would imagine (or hope, at least) that the victims have been given anonymity and the press will minimise reporting on anything that could identify them. | |||
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"Realy so do you think a lot of the young girls were Asian aswell I don’t know the numbers either but I’d guess it will be almost allwhite British " i don’t know. That’s why i asked. Feels like a sensible first question before deciding it’s a hate crime. | |||
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"Not yet bob or the Catholic Church but give it time tho it’s only early but one things for sure the same ppl who do won’t mention the Asian grooming gangs that I have noticed it does make you wonder why tho Yeah if you don't condemn those grooming gangs you've got to wonder .I see only a few have condemned what happened on Ryan air ...Its makes me wonder..
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"Is it an assumption all the victims were white ? I can’t find it from a quick google ... and would have thought someone somewhere would have majored on this ..." Majored in on this lol,the media have just about reported on it....it was being brought to light nearly ten years ago...by Tommy Robinson no less...but sure what would he know right he just spouts hate speech..if your a leftist | |||
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country But Anjem Choudary is ok, yes? Sounds like you are an “extremist cunt!” so as usual you make shit up which you then pretend i said and then you go on to call me a cunt .... good work
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"correction .... tommy robnoxious robinson is merely a right wing extremist cunt ... nothing more nothing less .... shit like him and his supporters need to be permanently removed from life in this country But Anjem Choudary is ok, yes? Sounds like you are an “extremist cunt!” so as usual you make shit up which you then pretend i said and then you go on to call me a cunt .... good work
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. " The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs... | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs..." the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. " Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls " No. Not at all. But as the vast majority of vunerable girls are white, I’m asking if this is a race crime, or just a horrific crime. And I only ask because no one has yet shown this to be true, rather than claiming it to be false. I know to many, who struggle to hold more than one idea at a time, this makes me a snowflake, or a sympathisier or what have you, but I believe sex crimes of any nature, by any race, on any race, is horrific. And if we start to use such crimes to score points in other battles, without a true basis for introducing them into these conflicts, we are belittling the victims and making light of their ordeals. | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls " Why were they white English and vulnerable? Because maybe their white English parents were fucking useless and/or abusive? | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls Why were they white English and vulnerable? Because maybe their white English parents were fucking useless and/or abusive?" Fucking hell - are you saying it's the parents' fault that their daughters were abused? | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls Why were they white English and vulnerable? Because maybe their white English parents were fucking useless and/or abusive?" . That's a disgusting thing to say, I hope your ashamed of yourself. | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls Why were they white English and vulnerable? Because maybe their white English parents were fucking useless and/or abusive?" Really? Does it matter what race or colour they were? Why are people making excuses for Paedophiles and rapists ? | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls Why were they white English and vulnerable? Because maybe their white English parents were fucking useless and/or abusive?" Oh well, that makes it ok then.... You vile person. | |||
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"If there was a racial element to the grooming gangs, the charge would have been aggravated, i.e. additional tariff on top of the core crime for a crime motivated by racial hatred. I'm not aware they were charged with aggravation. That means they did not have enough evidence. Or there was none. The Police in the Rotherham case where more afraid of being labelled racist then of actually doing their job.....so do you really think the police would bring the race element into it...their to bloody politically correct then and now to do their jobs...the police wouldn’t be the ones prosecuting. It would be the cps. Iirc from the report in Rotherham there were believed to be Pakistani victims, but the nature of the community meant it was more shrouded. Is that Ment to take away from the fact that the vast majority where white,vulnerable English girls Why were they white English and vulnerable? Because maybe their white English parents were fucking useless and/or abusive?" Your a F##KING W##KER | |||
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"You want to execute people for things they say? "If those people are clever qualified lawyers who use speech to convince 120 vulnerable individuals to kill and die for a cause they are unwilling to die for themselves, yes. | |||
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"If it was mainly white British men praying on mostly Asian girls would you think it was just a sex crime then " It does not matter what any of us believe, or want to believe - it is what stands up in a court of law that matters. It appears to me that a group of predatory men found a cohort of girls who were pliable when presented with adult male attention, drugs and alcohol. What was it about that cohort that made them more vulnerable than, say, any other cohort? There are difficult questions, difficult social and economic issues, in there that can become obscured very easily by the lens of race and prejudice. | |||
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"If it was mainly white British men praying on mostly Asian girls would you think it was just a sex crime then It does not matter what any of us believe, or want to believe - it is what stands up in a court of law that matters. It appears to me that a group of predatory men found a cohort of girls who were pliable when presented with adult male attention, drugs and alcohol. What was it about that cohort that made them more vulnerable than, say, any other cohort? There are difficult questions, difficult social and economic issues, in there that can become obscured very easily by the lens of race and prejudice. " A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. | |||
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"If it was mainly white British men praying on mostly Asian girls would you think it was just a sex crime then It does not matter what any of us believe, or want to believe - it is what stands up in a court of law that matters. It appears to me that a group of predatory men found a cohort of girls who were pliable when presented with adult male attention, drugs and alcohol. What was it about that cohort that made them more vulnerable than, say, any other cohort? There are difficult questions, difficult social and economic issues, in there that can become obscured very easily by the lens of race and prejudice. " I agree “class” is as much a common on denominator as race and one easily ignored for headlines. If we wish to avoid repeats we need to look at this. It really does suprise me many ignore this. | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.." A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? " but if it was all white males targetting mainly all Asian girls do you think it would be called a race crime aswell as a sex crime ? | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? but if it was all white males targetting mainly all Asian girls do you think it would be called a race crime aswell as a sex crime ?" If it was done in Asia, I’d suggest it may not. If I commit crimes at random in the Uk, most of my victims will be white. You’d need to show I made efforts to just target white victims to say it was racist. I have seen nothing (yet) to suggest this, be it from the trail, or even confirmation all victims were white. It’s supposition (at the moment) just because the victims were (on the whole) a different race to the perpetrators. | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? but if it was all white males targetting mainly all Asian girls do you think it would be called a race crime aswell as a sex crime ?" Straw man. Where is your evidence that the motivating factor in this case was ethnicity rather than pliability? | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? but if it was all white males targetting mainly all Asian girls do you think it would be called a race crime aswell as a sex crime ?" Like when European pedophiles move to Thailand and Cambodia and prey on Asian kids??? Can we class this a race crime also? | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? but if it was all white males targetting mainly all Asian girls do you think it would be called a race crime aswell as a sex crime ? Straw man. Where is your evidence that the motivating factor in this case was ethnicity rather than pliability?" Rochdale 24 Muslim R###ISTS.....Rotherham 18 Muslim R###ISTS......Newcastle 19 Muslim R###ISTS....Oxford 14 Muslim R###ISTS......Telford 6 Muslim R###ISTS.....Bristol 13 Muslim R###ISTS.....Huddersfield 20 Muslim R###ISTS....Leeds 6 Muslim R###ISTS.....Dewsbury 4 Muslim R###ISTS.....Derby 2 Muslim R###ISTS......Peterborough 6 Muslim R###ISTS.....Middlesborough 3 Muslim R###ISTS and out of all those scum,one white guy....who's a piece of s##te to just like the rest...that's a lot of bad apples and if you can't see it wasnt race motivated I don't know what will...all those bad apples bar one was white...their victims...WHITE....and the scary thing is apart from it being the tip of the ice berg...liberals and far left will defend these scum | |||
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" A group..you make it sound like a few bad apples did this...and your nieve if you think race wasn't a factor in any of this.. A gang of "bad apples", yes. I'm sure the prosecution would have looked for evidence of a racial crime. The fact that the crime sheet had no racial aggravation suggests to me the primary factor was the pliability and vulnerability of the cohort. Would it have mattered to this gang whether they were white, brown or black? I don't know and I suspect you don't either. Or was it simply this cohort was more vulnerable than any other? And if so, why? but if it was all white males targetting mainly all Asian girls do you think it would be called a race crime aswell as a sex crime ? Straw man. Where is your evidence that the motivating factor in this case was ethnicity rather than pliability?Rochdale 24 Muslim R###ISTS.....Rotherham 18 Muslim R###ISTS......Newcastle 19 Muslim R###ISTS....Oxford 14 Muslim R###ISTS......Telford 6 Muslim R###ISTS.....Bristol 13 Muslim R###ISTS.....Huddersfield 20 Muslim R###ISTS....Leeds 6 Muslim R###ISTS.....Dewsbury 4 Muslim R###ISTS.....Derby 2 Muslim R###ISTS......Peterborough 6 Muslim R###ISTS.....Middlesborough 3 Muslim R###ISTS and out of all those scum,one white guy....who's a piece of s##te to just like the rest...that's a lot of bad apples and if you can't see it wasnt race motivated I don't know what will...all those bad apples bar one was white...their victims...WHITE....and the scary thing is apart from it being the tip of the ice berg...liberals and far left will defend these scum " Nobody defended rapists on this thread of anywhere I’ve seen. Where are you getting this from. The problem is when people try to turn these horrific crimes into weapons in their perceived race war. | |||
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