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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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One issue that makes me uneasy, is the rise in homelessness in the UK.
A few reasons why this iz happening is being bandied about, but one main reason mentioned is the cuts in welfare.
Surely, though, enough is enough! If this is a result of tory ideology of making work pay, it's a pretty damming state of affairs |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"One issue that makes me uneasy, is the rise in homelessness in the UK.
A few reasons why this iz happening is being bandied about, but one main reason mentioned is the cuts in welfare.
Surely, though, enough is enough! If this is a result of tory ideology of making work pay, it's a pretty damming state of affairs "
According to recent press release by Shelter 1 in 12 children in Kensington and Chelsea borough are homeless.
http://media.shelter.org.uk/press_releases/articles/shelter_warns_131,000_children_will_be_homeless_this_christmas,_the_highest_in_over_a_decade
But we can get blue passports, right?
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
It depends on your priorities.
Some people think that preventing free movement will solve everything.
Historically the poor have always been there. People have a surprisingly high tolerance of suffering in others if they are an abstract group. Not real people.
The media can be very good at doing that.
If not the poor, the foreigner or the other religion or the witch. There's always someone. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It depends on your priorities.
Some people think that preventing free movement will solve everything.
Historically the poor have always been there. People have a surprisingly high tolerance of suffering in others if they are an abstract group. Not real people.
The media can be very good at doing that.
If not the poor, the foreigner or the other religion or the witch. There's always someone."
That's the ugly side to humans. They can be incredibly cruel |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Look at it like this
Britain was a 58 seater coach
The government said ...tell you what guys n girls ....if you can get on squeeze in .
Can't see the coach anymore for people from other countries climbing on board . |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?"
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?"
Yes. We wouldn't have spent the last two years fannying about with Brexit and could have instead actually tackled some of the real issues out country faces. Maybe May might even have been able to shake her magic money tree in the direction of funding some of the thing that need funding, rather than her coup.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I ask the forum, when did you last stop and say a few kind words to a homeless person and slip them a tenner or a fiver ? Sometimes a little gesture like that might help them a little and make them realize that the human race is not all bad.
I don't care what the experts think. What I do think is that the people in power surely must have a similar thought in their brain and cannot see this state of affairs go on forever. It's a recipe for disaster. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit."
Exactly this housing benefit started being paid directly to the claimant and not the landlords and so got spent.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I buy sandwiches and coffee for my local big issue seller and always buy some extra shopping to put in the local food bank. I feel better for it even though I know it’s not a real answer to the issues of poverty and homelessness. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Newbury |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters."
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy. "
Erm no its a tory policy! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Homelessness could be solved permanently with £10 billion according to crisis.
It'll never happen .We haven't evolved to that level of moral consciousness as a group yet.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Homelessness could be solved permanently with £10 billion according to crisis.
It'll never happen .We haven't evolved to that level of moral consciousness as a group yet. "
Any cost breakdown.
I always contend that homelessness is very easy to solve |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy. "
We are not in the Euro so our austerity is our own to bail out the banks.
The Eurozone countries that misspent and overspent of their own volition needed money to keep afloat. With that came conditions. Loans usually do. Carrying on the same way wasn't really going to work was it?
Too harsh? Maybe. Perhaps surprisingly the countries that got on with it seem to have come out of their crises faster and stronger. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Homelessness could be solved permanently with £10 billion according to crisis.
It'll never happen .We haven't evolved to that level of moral consciousness as a group yet.
Any cost breakdown.
I always contend that homelessness is very easy to solve"
Crisis have a 250 page PDF on their website with a breakdown .
A large chunk of the money in the plan to end homelessness is spent on 100,000 social housing homes built every year for 15 years.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It used to be those teenage girls deliberately getting pregnant to get a free house, then it was those bloody foreigners coming over here to get free houses.
The UK press has a lot to answer for. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"One issue that makes me uneasy, is the rise in homelessness in the UK.
A few reasons why this iz happening is being bandied about, but one main reason mentioned is the cuts in welfare.
Surely, though, enough is enough! If this is a result of tory ideology of making work pay, it's a pretty damming state of affairs "
The problem is the way that universal credit is being rolled out it is discusting,but the problem is not just this.It is a shortage of affordable housing,and social problems as well.We also cannot ignore the fact that the obsession with brexit means that many issues are being ignored.
There is an old saying that says the government is only as good as the opposition,and Labour are as much to blame in many ways |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Newbury |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!"
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists."
The European Commission is elected.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists."
I’m sorry but your wrong. The tory government has been imposing austerity measures for years and passing the buck to local government or blaming the EU. It’s what we have done to ourselves and blaming the EU for everything is like going on witch hunts - a load of nonsense that binds the frustrated together and makes them feel effective. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Newbury |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists.
I’m sorry but your wrong. The tory government has been imposing austerity measures for years and passing the buck to local government or blaming the EU. It’s what we have done to ourselves and blaming the EU for everything is like going on witch hunts - a load of nonsense that binds the frustrated together and makes them feel effective. "
The government is just going along with EU policy. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Newbury |
"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists.
The European Commission is elected.
-Matt"
No it isn't. Commissioners are nominated by MEPs who are then approved by the European Parliament.
They are not elected. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Newbury |
From wiki:
The Commission operates as a cabinet government, with 28 members of the Commission (informally known as "commissioners").[4] There is one member per member state, but members are bound by their oath of office to represent the general interest of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.[3] One of the 28 is the Commission President (currently Jean-Claude Juncker) proposed by the European Council[5]and elected by the European Parliament.[6]The Council of the European Union then nominates the other 27 members of the Commission in agreement with the nominated President, and the 28 members as a single body are then subject to a vote of approval by the European Parliament.[7] The current Commission is the Juncker Commission, which took office in late 2014, following the European Parliament elections in May of the same year. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"From wiki:
The Commission operates as a cabinet government, with 28 members of the Commission (informally known as "commissioners").[4] There is one member per member state, but members are bound by their oath of office to represent the general interest of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.[3] One of the 28 is the Commission President (currently Jean-Claude Juncker) proposed by the European Council[5]and elected by the European Parliament.[6]The Council of the European Union then nominates the other 27 members of the Commission in agreement with the nominated President, and the 28 members as a single body are then subject to a vote of approval by the European Parliament.[7] The current Commission is the Juncker Commission, which took office in late 2014, following the European Parliament elections in May of the same year."
Yes, exactly they are voted on for approval by the heads of state. They are not en-elected.
-Matt |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Newbury |
"From wiki:
The Commission operates as a cabinet government, with 28 members of the Commission (informally known as "commissioners").[4] There is one member per member state, but members are bound by their oath of office to represent the general interest of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.[3] One of the 28 is the Commission President (currently Jean-Claude Juncker) proposed by the European Council[5]and elected by the European Parliament.[6]The Council of the European Union then nominates the other 27 members of the Commission in agreement with the nominated President, and the 28 members as a single body are then subject to a vote of approval by the European Parliament.[7] The current Commission is the Juncker Commission, which took office in late 2014, following the European Parliament elections in May of the same year.
Yes, exactly they are voted on for approval by the heads of state. They are not en-elected.
-Matt"
They are not elected by the people, in a democratic matter.
By your logic, the Communist Party in the former USSR was democratic as it voted within itself for government positions....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit."
Its blamed for the sharp rise and rightly so. The problem is the tories are in denial. Plus the media don't help with the "benefit scrounger" narrative |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit.
Its blamed for the sharp rise and rightly so. The problem is the tories are in denial. Plus the media don't help with the "benefit scrounger" narrative "
. The problems with lack of affordable housing and homeless were there before Universal Credit and yes homeless has increased since it was introduced sadly I can’t see it been replaced any time soon there is also a increase in people using food banks as well since Universal Credit rolled out in my part of London. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit.
Its blamed for the sharp rise and rightly so. The problem is the tories are in denial. Plus the media don't help with the "benefit scrounger" narrative . The problems with lack of affordable housing and homeless were there before Universal Credit and yes homeless has increased since it was introduced sadly I can’t see it been replaced any time soon there is also a increase in people using food banks as well since Universal Credit rolled out in my part of London."
Yep i agree, lack of affordabe and social housing too. Some housing has been built here, but are expensive. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"One issue that makes me uneasy, is the rise in homelessness in the UK.
A few reasons why this iz happening is being bandied about, but one main reason mentioned is the cuts in welfare.
Surely, though, enough is enough! If this is a result of tory ideology of making work pay, it's a pretty damming state of affairs The problem is the way that universal credit is being rolled out it is discusting,but the problem is not just this.It is a shortage of affordable housing,and social problems as well.We also cannot ignore the fact that the obsession with brexit means that many issues are being ignored.
There is an old saying that says the government is only as good as the opposition,and Labour are as much to blame in many ways"
Just for a change...absolutely  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit.
Its blamed for the sharp rise and rightly so. The problem is the tories are in denial. Plus the media don't help with the "benefit scrounger" narrative "
Plenty of people believe the “benefit scrounged” narrative that a certain section of the media promote.
The austerity over the past 10-11 years is nothing compared with that’s to come over the next 10 years. So we can expect this trend in the sharp increase in homelessness to increase. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The austerity over the past 10-11 years is nothing compared with that’s to come over the next 10 years. So we can expect this trend in the sharp increase in homelessness to increase."
If we have BREXIT then the BREXIT dividend will result in us having so much extra money sloshing around our economy that the UK should be able to consign homelessness to the history books after a few months |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit.
Its blamed for the sharp rise and rightly so. The problem is the tories are in denial. Plus the media don't help with the "benefit scrounger" narrative
Plenty of people believe the “benefit scrounged” narrative that a certain section of the media promote.
The austerity over the past 10-11 years is nothing compared with that’s to come over the next 10 years. So we can expect this trend in the sharp increase in homelessness to increase."
. Yes there are benefits scroungers but with Universal Credit currently 6 benefits rolled into one I think eventually other benefits may move over I would not be surprised if state pension and pension credit get moved over in the next 10 - 15 years.Claimants who are on it do not like it as it’s paid monthly and if you don’t log into your account and check your To Do list and update your journal then the claim can be closed or sanction up to a year.It pains me to say it but everything you say about homeless increases will probably happen and no we can’t blame Brexit as the plans to roll out Universal Credit started before the vote. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Universal Credit is the benefit that has replaced 6 benefits housing benefit been one of the replaced ones whilst the concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good unfortunately I don’t believe it’s worked out that way and perhaps housing benefit should not have been part of Universal Credit.
Its blamed for the sharp rise and rightly so. The problem is the tories are in denial. Plus the media don't help with the "benefit scrounger" narrative
Plenty of people believe the “benefit scrounged” narrative that a certain section of the media promote.
The austerity over the past 10-11 years is nothing compared with that’s to come over the next 10 years. So we can expect this trend in the sharp increase in homelessness to increase.. Yes there are benefits scroungers but with Universal Credit currently 6 benefits rolled into one I think eventually other benefits may move over I would not be surprised if state pension and pension credit get moved over in the next 10 - 15 years.Claimants who are on it do not like it as it’s paid monthly and if you don’t log into your account and check your To Do list and update your journal then the claim can be closed or sanction up to a year.It pains me to say it but everything you say about homeless increases will probably happen and no we can’t blame Brexit as the plans to roll out Universal Credit started before the vote."
Austerity as a result of Brexit will leave less resources to help tackle homelessness. |
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Last week a Tory MP boasted that there was no homelessness problem in the UK because people are not dying on the streets...
Last week a homeless man died across the street from Parliament. The man had a full time job as a kitchen porter but was unable to afford a bedsit in London. But hey ho, he was just one of the 350,000 homeless that the government acknowledge exist. So nothing to look at here, multi millionaires and billionaires are making a killing buying up property and leaving it standing empty in London and who are we to demand that the free market be regulated? Roll on brexit and deregulation, as JRM says whats good for India should be good enough for us. |
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Simple answer from Kent...illegal /economic migrants ....come her council's house them nothing left for English people ...we just love them all ...in Kent we took 130 from the channel last week ...where do all you do gooders and snowflakes think they are now ..wake up |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Simple answer from Kent...illegal /economic migrants ....come her council's house them nothing left for English people ...we just love them all ...in Kent we took 130 from the channel last week ...where do all you do gooders and snowflakes think they are now ..wake up"
You think 100 or 1000 immigrants are the problem?
Huge numbers are in detention centres not "taking houses" from locals.
The country is hundreds of thousands of affordable housing short.
Are you really saying that all of this is someone elses fault?
Are you really saying that our government has no control over house building?
Are you? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In Kent yes m8 ...we overrun ...our council's can't cope and central government does not help"
just checked out Webcams around Canterbury and I think you're onto something, could not make out the beach for immigrants.
The mayor was there....handing house and car keys out. My eyes have been opened. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"In Kent yes m8 ...we overrun ...our council's can't cope and central government does not help"
Net international migration to Kent 2016-2017 was about 4500 out of a population of 1.5 million.
If you Google "Immigration kent" the first item that I see is a Kent County Council paper with all of the data.
I agree that central government should help but "overrun"? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In Kent yes m8 ...we overrun ...our council's can't cope and central government does not help"
I’ve got family living all over Kent and you are talking bollocks m8  |
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"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
No. You've got the cart before the house there. BREXIT is not the cause, it's the symptom.
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As some remoaners seem to be getting very pedantic about spelling or typo's on various threads, did you mean cart before the horse?  |
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"In Kent yes m8 ...we overrun ...our council's can't cope and central government does not help
just checked out Webcams around Canterbury and I think you're onto something, could not make out the beach for immigrants.
The mayor was there....handing house and car keys out. My eyes have been opened."
He probably googling for "webcams" and "Canterbury" right now.
I think irony and sarcasm might be lost. |
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"It's funny, the places that claim to have the most problems with 'foreigners' are the places with the lowest levels of immigration. "
Not really; fear of the unknown is always more powerful a motivation than fact and reason.
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"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists.
I’m sorry but your wrong. The tory government has been imposing austerity measures for years and passing the buck to local government or blaming the EU. It’s what we have done to ourselves and blaming the EU for everything is like going on witch hunts - a load of nonsense that binds the frustrated together and makes them feel effective.
The government is just going along with EU policy. "
Tosh. This policy is a Tory policy. They own it along with the daft sods who keep voting for them |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It's ALL because of Brexit, you know!
Will Brexit help?
Will remainimg help?
Yes.
Our government, civil service and press will be concentrating on the things that are really important rather than renegotiating existing international relationships and trade deals.
By all accounts except those of the risible Economists for Free Trade, whose policies you won't back, we will be a richer nation if we remain and have more money to spend on housing and a whole range of other matters.
Except, of course that austerity is an EU policy.
Erm no its a tory policy!
It's both.
The EU imposes austerity on it's member states.
This is (or should be) unsurprising, given the nature of the EU - the unelected commission means that MEPs are obliged to nominate candidates approved by the lobbyists.
I’m sorry but your wrong. The tory government has been imposing austerity measures for years and passing the buck to local government or blaming the EU. It’s what we have done to ourselves and blaming the EU for everything is like going on witch hunts - a load of nonsense that binds the frustrated together and makes them feel effective.
The government is just going along with EU policy.
Tosh. This policy is a Tory policy. They own it along with the daft sods who keep voting for them"
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Homelessness has been increasing year on year for decades now. In Brighton it is and has for some time been endemic for a long time. I remember when I first arrived here in the early 1980’s, people said they had come down from London after being ejected from the city. Nowadays they are on every Main Street, sleeping bags in shop doorways.
The sad matter of fact is that many are ex service people, mainly men, suffering with untreated PTSD. It is a real shame, and a proper blight on our nation and its people. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Homelessness has been increasing year on year for decades now. In Brighton it is and has for some time been endemic for a long time. I remember when I first arrived here in the early 1980’s, people said they had come down from London after being ejected from the city. Nowadays they are on every Main Street, sleeping bags in shop doorways.
The sad matter of fact is that many are ex service people, mainly men, suffering with untreated PTSD. It is a real shame, and a proper blight on our nation and its people."
No disagreement with you on that.
It's down to us as a nation to fix it though. It's nobody else's fault. |
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"Happy Xmas snowy ....ive got family in lol...canterbury built 41 council houses in 2017 ...and less in 2018 ...x
Who's to blame for that?"
I'd Imagine it's either the EU or Immigrants! |
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"Homelessness has been increasing year on year for decades now. In Brighton it is and has for some time been endemic for a long time. I remember when I first arrived here in the early 1980’s, people said they had come down from London after being ejected from the city. Nowadays they are on every Main Street, sleeping bags in shop doorways.
The sad matter of fact is that many are ex service people, mainly men, suffering with untreated PTSD. It is a real shame, and a proper blight on our nation and its people.
No disagreement with you on that.
It's down to us as a nation to fix it though. It's nobody else's fault."
I agree to a point, it is not the fault of any other nation, it is a stain upon our own. But the ministry of defence has known about this for decades and has done fuck all. At the end of the day the buck stops with them... |
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"Homelessness has been increasing year on year for decades now. In Brighton it is and has for some time been endemic for a long time. I remember when I first arrived here in the early 1980’s, people said they had come down from London after being ejected from the city. Nowadays they are on every Main Street, sleeping bags in shop doorways.
The sad matter of fact is that many are ex service people, mainly men, suffering with untreated PTSD. It is a real shame, and a proper blight on our nation and its people."
The tories sing thrir praises for the armed forces, police, nhs etc.. Soon as money is mentioned they tighten their purse strings. Typical scumbag tories |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Homelessness could be solved permanently with £10 billion according to crisis.
It'll never happen .We haven't evolved to that level of moral consciousness as a group yet. "
So if we cut, say, foreign aid from 14 Billion to 4 Billion for just one year, homelessness would be solved permanently?
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"Simple answer from Kent...illegal /economic migrants ....come her council's house them nothing left for English people ...we just love them all ...in Kent we took 130 from the channel last week ...where do all you do gooders and snowflakes think they are now ..wake up"
net migration in the 100s of thousads, Cameron saying it would be 10s of thousands but wasn't.
Home sec. Mays incompetence now in the pm's position too.
Boils down to basic maths. 100,000 per year for x amount of years., they hsve to go somewhere.
In 2010, i was told by an immigrant from Uganda. He said he was being sent to Sunderland so they'd be spread out more so the public wouldn't notice. One of May's ideas possibly.
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Dover folkstone ramsgate Margate..dumping grounds for years whole streets full where u will never hear an English voice ...shame for other residents..but that is what the Kent people have had to put up with for almost 20 years .... |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
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"Dover folkstone ramsgate Margate..dumping grounds for years whole streets full where u will never hear an English voice ...shame for other residents..but that is what the Kent people have had to put up with for almost 20 years ...."
. In my part of London we have lots of Romanian , Bulgarian as well as Eastern European where English is not the first language.We have other nationalities as well it’s a very multicultural area some try to adjust to the English / British way of life others don’t.
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The conservatives have inflicted massive and disproportionate financial constraints upon the poorer amongst us. This is on top of ideological shifts that remove or reduce the safety nets that exist for people with limited means, started in the 1980s -
Selling off council houses
Employment and housing protection, including for income
And letting private rental typically go unrestrained, with sky high rents, limited enforcement, cuts to council and local enforcement budgets etc. Not to mention the social cleansing pursued as the poorer are excluded from areas where they'd formerly lived for decades, with their social support networks etc.
Society has been incrementally molded to fit what's needed by those with more wealth and the rest regarded as an inconvenience to be used and forgotten as necessary.
People have gladly paid a high price in the hope of some personal gain at the expense of others but have been largely shafted regardless. They have been complicit in their active engagement in divide and conquer hatred, that's allowed perceived underdogs to be made and allowed to suffer what would have been intolerable misery and pain, though cloaked in media coverage etc that's supported malicious cruelty. Homelessness has been an aspect of these moves and it should not take Einstein to figure this out and decide that it must be stopped. |
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Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon! |
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!"
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!"
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!"
Private landlords renting slum housing at exorbitant rates.. Another shitbag tory invention |
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!
Will it's Christmas go and have a bit of fun for one day in your life! "
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!
Will it's Christmas go and have a bit of fun for one day in your life!
Did you wake up? "
To Will's bullshit! |
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!
Will it's Christmas go and have a bit of fun for one day in your life!
Did you wake up?
To Will's bullshit! "
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!
Will it's Christmas go and have a bit of fun for one day in your life!
Did you wake up?
To Will's bullshit!
You can lead a blinkered horse to water, as the maxim goes. Merry Christmas to the west midlands "
We have cars in the West Midlands we gave up on horses for daily transport some years ago! |
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"The conservatives have inflicted massive and disproportionate financial constraints upon the poorer amongst us. This is on top of ideological shifts that remove or reduce the safety nets that exist for people with limited means, started in the 1980s -
Selling off council houses
Employment and housing protection, including for income
And letting private rental typically go unrestrained, with sky high rents, limited enforcement, cuts to council and local enforcement budgets etc. Not to mention the social cleansing pursued as the poorer are excluded from areas where they'd formerly lived for decades, with their social support networks etc.
Society has been incrementally molded to fit what's needed by those with more wealth and the rest regarded as an inconvenience to be used and forgotten as necessary.
People have gladly paid a high price in the hope of some personal gain at the expense of others but have been largely shafted regardless. They have been complicit in their active engagement in divide and conquer hatred, that's allowed perceived underdogs to be made and allowed to suffer what would have been intolerable misery and pain, though cloaked in media coverage etc that's supported malicious cruelty. Homelessness has been an aspect of these moves and it should not take Einstein to figure this out and decide that it must be stopped."
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"The conservatives have inflicted massive and disproportionate financial constraints upon the poorer amongst us. This is on top of ideological shifts that remove or reduce the safety nets that exist for people with limited means, started in the 1980s -
Selling off council houses
Employment and housing protection, including for income
And letting private rental typically go unrestrained, with sky high rents, limited enforcement, cuts to council and local enforcement budgets etc. Not to mention the social cleansing pursued as the poorer are excluded from areas where they'd formerly lived for decades, with their social support networks etc.
Society has been incrementally molded to fit what's needed by those with more wealth and the rest regarded as an inconvenience to be used and forgotten as necessary.
People have gladly paid a high price in the hope of some personal gain at the expense of others but have been largely shafted regardless. They have been complicit in their active engagement in divide and conquer hatred, that's allowed perceived underdogs to be made and allowed to suffer what would have been intolerable misery and pain, though cloaked in media coverage etc that's supported malicious cruelty. Homelessness has been an aspect of these moves and it should not take Einstein to figure this out and decide that it must be stopped.
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!"
You of all people should know that the same populist message you spread brought Hitler to power.
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It always amazes me that regardless of the evidence it is always harder to convince a victim of a con that they have been conned than it is to con them in the first instance.
We now have a 30 year low in home ownership and homelessness on the rise (again). Anyone remember councils and the police breaking up 'cardboard cities' in the 80's and the homeless, jobless 'travelers' of Thatchers 'greed is good' decade. At least then the poor and homeless were only victimised by the police and providing they avoided direct conflict with the establishment they got a weekly giro that kept them fed. Today its a case of rely on the charity of food banks or starve. |
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"It always amazes me that regardless of the evidence it is always harder to convince a victim of a con that they have been conned than it is to con them in the first instance.
We now have a 30 year low in home ownership and homelessness on the rise (again). Anyone remember councils and the police breaking up 'cardboard cities' in the 80's and the homeless, jobless 'travelers' of Thatchers 'greed is good' decade. At least then the poor and homeless were only victimised by the police and providing they avoided direct conflict with the establishment they got a weekly giro that kept them fed. Today its a case of rely on the charity of food banks or starve."
Yup, I remember the thatcher era. Not good memories either. Luckily thatcher didn't have the technology to oppress the vulnerable and the poor as they do now.
I suppose superflash's both: (a) too young to remember thatcher
(b) being in the roi, and outside the reach of thatcher's (and the tory) claws of influence, unlike other poor buggers in the uk |
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!
Will it's Christmas go and have a bit of fun for one day in your life!
Did you wake up?
To Will's bullshit!
You can lead a blinkered horse to water, as the maxim goes. Merry Christmas to the west midlands
We have cars in the West Midlands we gave up on horses for daily transport some years ago! "
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"Homelessness has nothing to do with migration and everything to do with greed. Homelessness is the most visible sign (so far) of the massive con-trick pulled on the whole country over the last 40 years by the Tories. I know many here refuse to believe this truth but until we all wake up to the massive con-job that has been pulled on us it will continue to be played and homelessness will increase as will food-banks and soup kitchens. We all enthusiastically participated in the con-job false belief that we were going to get a bigger slice of the pie and are now so invested in it we are still letting the 'Nigerian Prince' empty our bank account because we know the money he promised will be paid into the account any day now.
The con job was simple, sell publicly owned property at massive discounts to the mega rich (but allow just enough of the prols (thats us) to share a bit of that pie for a while to claim that wealth was not being given to the mega rich. While at the same time convert wage inflation (which made us all wealthier) into profit, share price and dividend inflation which made the mega rich even richer. 40 years ago we had a stock of local authority social housing that acted as a cap on the private rented sector and forced speculative private property builders to cap prices and build to make profits. Today those caps have been removed resulting in rent inflation, inflated unit profits and property construction deflation. Why build 10 houses earning 1 tenth of the profit on each when you can build 1 make 9 people homeless and double your total profit?
Wake up people! The Tories are making money out of impoverishing the country and if you're not already being targeted your turn is coming soon!
Will it's Christmas go and have a bit of fun for one day in your life!
Did you wake up?
To Will's bullshit!
You can lead a blinkered horse to water, as the maxim goes. Merry Christmas to the west midlands
We have cars in the West Midlands we gave up on horses for daily transport some years ago!
What do you drive? A Mercedes? "
Good guess!
Mercedes SL for the good weather and a BMW XDRIVE for the bad! |
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"What do you drive? A Mercedes?
Good guess!
Mercedes SL for the good weather and a BMW XDRIVE for the bad! "
You're doing well...
Despite the flashy cars I wonder if you're doing well enough to be able to afford a first time mortgage (or more to the point) can your kids afford a mortgage or are they planning to still be saving for a deposit at 40 while you spend your parents legacy to you plus anything you could have added to your children's inheritance on flash cars that are poisoning the planet where a small eco car would not only be cheaper to buy and run but would ensure there was something left for your kids when eventually you die?
Just a thought, no need to reply because any reply will make you look even worse than you do right now. |
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"What do you drive? A Mercedes?
Good guess!
Mercedes SL for the good weather and a BMW XDRIVE for the bad!
You're doing well...
Despite the flashy cars I wonder if you're doing well enough to be able to afford a first time mortgage (or more to the point) can your kids afford a mortgage or are they planning to still be saving for a deposit at 40 while you spend your parents legacy to you plus anything you could have added to your children's inheritance on flash cars that are poisoning the planet where a small eco car would not only be cheaper to buy and run but would ensure there was something left for your kids when eventually you die?
Just a thought, no need to reply because any reply will make you look even worse than you do right now."
No parents legacy all come from hard work,you should try it and you might not be so bitter/jealous!No need to worry about mortgages that got paid off years ago so why shouldn't I have nice cars!Finally I don't need your advice on how to look after my kids financial future as you don't seem to have done too well planning your own! MERRY CHRISTMAS |
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"What do you drive? A Mercedes?
Good guess!
Mercedes SL for the good weather and a BMW XDRIVE for the bad!
You're doing well...
Despite the flashy cars I wonder if you're doing well enough to be able to afford a first time mortgage (or more to the point) can your kids afford a mortgage or are they planning to still be saving for a deposit at 40 while you spend your parents legacy to you plus anything you could have added to your children's inheritance on flash cars that are poisoning the planet where a small eco car would not only be cheaper to buy and run but would ensure there was something left for your kids when eventually you die?
Just a thought, no need to reply because any reply will make you look even worse than you do right now.
No parents legacy all come from hard work,you should try it and you might not be so bitter/jealous!No need to worry about mortgages that got paid off years ago so why shouldn't I have nice cars!Finally I don't need your advice on how to look after my kids financial future as you don't seem to have done too well planning your own! MERRY CHRISTMAS "
Everything Will says ignores personal decision making.
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