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"Apparently there have been 18 attacks thwarted - 14 Islamist and 4 far right! " Lol basically 18 far right potential attacks then. As religions go they don't come much more far right than Islam. | |||
"No lefty terrorism then because we are the good guys... "This was only over the last 2 years - but yes no leftie nutters, just far right nutters! Would love to know what they were planning though! | |||
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"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. " Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. " be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol" Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. " sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol" It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?" no I don’t sorry but iv not seen any were it’s said all Asian men or all Muslim men when as that been posted ? | |||
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"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit? no I don’t sorry but iv not seen any were it’s said all Asian men or all Muslim men when as that been posted ?" When these topics are posted, that's where the discussion goes. It's used as an argument to control immigration. You only generalise about less important things like all liberals wearing sandals 
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"I cannot recall Islamic terrorism on these shores prior to Sep 2001. The invoking of the NATO defence clause, together with the deaths of UK nationals on 9-11, lead to UK boots on the ground in Afghanistan and then Iraq. Al Quaeida successfully provoked the US and its allies into a military response against muslim-majority states. That in turn seems to have created violent resentment on the fringes of the muslim community that we continue to live with today. " Hmmm could point to radicalised refugees i guess. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?" Same as the generalisation of leave voters all being labelled racists? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit? Same as the generalisation of leave voters all being labelled racists?" They aren't. Why are you playing the victim? Do you think that racists exist? Do you think they voted to remain? Do you think that the Leave campaign did not evoke racist imagery? What emotion or thought process were images of dark skinned immigrants supposed to illicit? Why not white skinned one from the EU? Does anyone think that all leave voters are racist? Not by a long shot but don't pretend it did not play a significant role. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?" . Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit? Same as the generalisation of leave voters all being labelled racists? They aren't. Why are you playing the victim? Do you think that racists exist? Do you think they voted to remain? Do you think that the Leave campaign did not evoke racist imagery? What emotion or thought process were images of dark skinned immigrants supposed to illicit? Why not white skinned one from the EU? Does anyone think that all leave voters are racist? Not by a long shot but don't pretend it did not play a significant role." That's your own skewed interpretation of some posters. The posters of 'brown' people as explained to you on another thread earlier were highlighting the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. As I said on the other thread if people want to see a really racist poster from the EU referendum, they should go take a look at the Remain campaign poster designed by Saatchi and Saatchi for operation black vote. It features a young white skinhead wearing skin tight jeans and Dr Martin boots pointing angrily at a frail little old Indian lady on the other end of a see saw. Even Mayor of London Sadiq Khan tried to distance himself from it and said it reinforced racial stereotypes. | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. " You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit? Same as the generalisation of leave voters all being labelled racists? They aren't. Why are you playing the victim? Do you think that racists exist? Do you think they voted to remain? Do you think that the Leave campaign did not evoke racist imagery? What emotion or thought process were images of dark skinned immigrants supposed to illicit? Why not white skinned one from the EU? Does anyone think that all leave voters are racist? Not by a long shot but don't pretend it did not play a significant role." . Why not white EU lines indeed! Would it make a difference, no not really you just substitute the word racist for xenophobic. The truth is most people don't want mass black immigration or mass white immigration, small scale immigration of either or both I would imagine be easier to integrate and assimilate leading to a more cohesive society. Lol I do love your opening gambit though... Do you think that racists exist! | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit? Same as the generalisation of leave voters all being labelled racists? They aren't. Why are you playing the victim? Do you think that racists exist? Do you think they voted to remain? Do you think that the Leave campaign did not evoke racist imagery? What emotion or thought process were images of dark skinned immigrants supposed to illicit? Why not white skinned one from the EU? Does anyone think that all leave voters are racist? Not by a long shot but don't pretend it did not play a significant role. That's your own skewed interpretation of some posters. The posters of 'brown' people as explained to you on another thread earlier were highlighting the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. As I said on the other thread if people want to see a really racist poster from the EU referendum, they should go take a look at the Remain campaign poster designed by Saatchi and Saatchi for operation black vote. It features a young white skinhead wearing skin tight jeans and Dr Martin boots pointing angrily at a frail little old Indian lady on the other end of a see saw. Even Mayor of London Sadiq Khan tried to distance himself from it and said it reinforced racial stereotypes. " Highlighting an EU failure to deal with an unprecedented crisis outside its borders? What would you have "them" do Centaur? If they were as all powerful and domineering as you claim what crisis would there be? Any posters of white EU immigrants? The ones allegedly "taking" our jobs, school places, filling our hospitals and sucking up council houses and benefits? What's that you say? No? Only posters of non-Europeans and maps with Syria and Iraq written on them? Why would you need a map showing Syria and Iraq to sway the vote on a referendum on the EU? As a poster to get people to stand up to intimidation then a frail Asian lady being equal to a racist thug doesn't seem to be a bad way to demonstrate the equality of your vote. I'm quite happy to, disagree with Sadiq Khan. What do you disagree with Nigel Farage about? Anything at all? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? " If so many are fleeing war torn countries why is it only an average of 3 out of 10 of them are successful with their asylum applications. That means 7 out of every 10 are not genuine refugees, and they are deemed to be economic migrants. Is there a war going on in Tunisia? Lots are going from there and other African countries where there is no war across the Mediterranean Sea in dingys to get to Spain, Italy and Greece. They are not refugees, they are economic migrants and if they are found to be economic migrants they should be deported back to country of origin. | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? " . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? If so many are fleeing war torn countries why is it only an average of 3 out of 10 of them are successful with their asylum applications. That means 7 out of every 10 are not genuine refugees, and they are deemed to be economic migrants. Is there a war going on in Tunisia? Lots are going from there and other African countries where there is no war across the Mediterranean Sea in dingys to get to Spain, Italy and Greece. They are not refugees, they are economic migrants and if they are found to be economic migrants they should be deported back to country of origin. " Good deflection. I didn't claim that there were no economic immigrants. Do explain how that is the fault of the EU. How are they causing the problem? How should the EU deal with it as you seem to feel that it solely their responsibility even though you want to take back control? I never said that the EU should accept whoever comes. They shouldn't. Those who are not in genuine need should be sent back. I don't think that they should be dehumanised and treated badly though. What do you think? The fact that you have the statistic means what? It means that the process is working. A huge, unprecedented crisis was dealt with slowly and painfully. What is your actual point? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? If so many are fleeing war torn countries why is it only an average of 3 out of 10 of them are successful with their asylum applications. That means 7 out of every 10 are not genuine refugees, and they are deemed to be economic migrants. Is there a war going on in Tunisia? Lots are going from there and other African countries where there is no war across the Mediterranean Sea in dingys to get to Spain, Italy and Greece. They are not refugees, they are economic migrants and if they are found to be economic migrants they should be deported back to country of origin. " Quoted from the BBC " Syrians top asylum seekers list The top countries by origin of asylum seekers in the EU since 2014 are Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan, all countries with recent or ongoing conflicts. Between 2014 and 2017, a total of more than 919,000 Syrians applied for asylum in the EU. " With so many 100's of thousands, millions over the last few years flooding into EU countries, many refugees and many migrants, each Country is trying to process them the best they can, removing failed asylum seekers unless they go to ground. But we all know that's what's happening anyway, I just don't get what you expect Junker to personally do? Should he draft a certain course of action and impose it upon THE EU28, what would his drafted course of action be? deport failed claims? each countries probably doing that anyway, and that was your idea... so what else is Junker missing? What else do you expect the EU commission to do as you've labeled it the EU's mismanagement, the EU's failure, normally people use them terms when they have a better solution themselves, but your solution is already being done by each affected state. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. " Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK?" If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist? | |||
" Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us. " WTF are you on!!!!! The UK had no involvement militarily in Libya & Syria..? A couple of UK mainstream newspapers headlines... " No alternative': Theresa May sends British jets to join airstrikes on Syria " We've also provided varying levels of support to what they consider to be ‘moderate’ rebels. No UK involvement then in Syria... " After weeks of lobbying by the UK and its allies, on 17 March 2011 the United Nations Security Council approved military intervention in Libya, and two days later the UK and the United States fired more than 110 Tomahawk missiles at regime targets before sending in fighter jets to protect civilians " Got to love that last 3 words lol But hey, no UK involvement in Libya either. I wonder what it's like living in your world where fact & reality never comes near each other. | |||
" Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us. WTF are you on!!!!! The UK had no involvement militarily in Libya & Syria..? A couple of UK mainstream newspapers headlines... No alternative': Theresa May sends British jets to join airstrikes on Syria We've also provided varying levels of support to what they consider to be ‘moderate’ rebels. No UK involvement then in Syria... After weeks of lobbying by the UK and its allies, on 17 March 2011 the United Nations Security Council approved military intervention in Libya, and two days later the UK and the United States fired more than 110 Tomahawk missiles at regime targets before sending in fighter jets to protect civilians Got to love that last 3 words lol But hey, no UK involvement in Libya either. I wonder what it's like living in your world where fact & reality never comes near each other. ". That was under UN mandate it wasn't under your implication of UK meddling like Iraq and Afghanistan which is why I left them out, although the UK population consistently when polled wouldn't have done any of these military involvements and the military trouble in Libya and Syria was obviously well under way long before UK involvement. I should have defined my no involvement better on those two cases. So did you think about the number? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?" . So what's the number then? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right?" . No being economically inactive doesn't necessarily mean your a burden, neither does having 3 times the average unemployment rate, 7 times the national illiteracy rate, there just trends like racists voting for Brexit. Some could still be brain surgeons but that wouldn't be a trend. I never actually mentioning banning any ethnicity but if your taking alot of immigration from Bangladesh your trends are going to be pretty high on those outliers. | |||
"No lefty terrorism then because we are the good guys... ". Oh while virtue signalling have troll  through Twitter over your maga hat child, shall we call him a child, yes let's.
Yes this straight in from leftist Disney film maker... Put those kids in the woodchopper (with a nice picture of blood coming out of a woodchopper).
"Dox this little shit, I want his family to suffer".(meaning death threats).
And from a black leftists I read this,"lock these smirking shits in the school and burn that bitch to the ground".
All tick marked, all still on Twitter.
It's not like this is Orwells 1984 and this kid has committed a facecrime(yes straight out of the book) or summit.
The good noble left, willing to kill a kid for the right reasons!. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right?" How would you control immigration then? | |||
"No lefty terrorism then because we are the good guys... .
Oh while virtue signalling have troll through Twitter over your maga hat child, shall we call him a child, yes let's.
Yes this straight in from leftist Disney film maker... Put those kids in the woodchopper (with a nice picture of blood coming out of a woodchopper).
"Dox this little shit, I want his family to suffer".(meaning death threats).
And from a black leftists I read this,"lock these smirking shits in the school and burn that bitch to the ground".
All tick marked, all still on Twitter.
It's not like this is Orwells 1984 and this kid has committed a facecrime(yes straight out of the book) or summit.
The good noble left, willing to kill a kid for the right reasons!."Faux outrage over a cartoon .Yet gets all triggered over black lives matter. When real black children end up in body bags .Not a cartoon a real dead child! Cartoon killing is equivalent to a real killing in the mind of the far right loons.. You must wear clown shows and have a red nose. As it's straight from the neocon clown playbook .. Your away with the fairies . | |||
"No lefty terrorism then because we are the good guys... .
Oh while virtue signalling have troll through Twitter over your maga hat child, shall we call him a child, yes let's.
Yes this straight in from leftist Disney film maker... Put those kids in the woodchopper (with a nice picture of blood coming out of a woodchopper).
"Dox this little shit, I want his family to suffer".(meaning death threats).
And from a black leftists I read this,"lock these smirking shits in the school and burn that bitch to the ground".
All tick marked, all still on Twitter.
It's not like this is Orwells 1984 and this kid has committed a facecrime(yes straight out of the book) or summit.
The good noble left, willing to kill a kid for the right reasons!.
Faux outrage over a cartoon .Yet gets all triggered over black lives matter.
When real black children end up in body bags .Not a cartoon a real dead child!
Cartoon killing is equivalent to a real killing in the mind of the far right loons..
You must wear clown shows and have a red nose.
As it's straight from the neocon clown playbook ..
Your away with the fairies . ". I don't get triggered over anything except maybe the hypocrisy of leftist virtue signallers. I recommend reading Twitter comments to see the gleeful delight in violence by the progressives towards children over a hat and a smirk. I mean this has been played out for hundreds of years by the left, say nice things to obtain power then utter brutality to anybody who dares use the wrong facial expression. It's all just a little bit of history repeating | |||
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"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab ". That's hypocrisy right there, far right loons issuing death threats to MPs are terrorists, far left loons issuing death threats to children over a political hat are keyboard warriors?. Good ol' fab indeed | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab .
That's hypocrisy right there, far right loons issuing death threats to MPs are terrorists, far left loons issuing death threats to children over a political hat are keyboard warriors?.
Good ol' fab indeed
"Maybe it’s a different thread, but who said the MP threateners were terrrorists ? And the folk who did, was it a twitter comment ? (I will admit I get lost when keeping up with the personal debates that jump over threads) | |||
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"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab "Outrage over twitter comments is the snowflakes calling card. Oh the horror.. | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab
Outrage over twitter comments is the snowflakes calling card.
Oh the horror.. "Twitter faux outrage.. 1st world problems.. | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab .
That's hypocrisy right there, far right loons issuing death threats to MPs are terrorists, far left loons issuing death threats to children over a political hat are keyboard warriors?.
Good ol' fab indeed
"Far left loons don't just issue death threats to children though. It's been reported in the press today a Labour front bencher who threatened to quit Corbyn's shadow cabinet if Corbyn backed a 2nd EU referendum was branded a "fucking traitor" who should be "gunned down". No doubt it is one of Corbyn's far left followers in the Corbyn cult called Momentum issuing the threats. The Labour shadow housing minister Melanie Onn was also told to "watch her back" after she threatened to quit if Labour back a 2nd referendum. | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab .
That's hypocrisy right there, far right loons issuing death threats to MPs are terrorists, far left loons issuing death threats to children over a political hat are keyboard warriors?.
Good ol' fab indeed
Far left loons don't just issue death threats to children though. It's been reported in the press today a Labour front bencher who threatened to quit Corbyn's shadow cabinet if Corbyn backed a 2nd EU referendum was branded a "fucking traitor" who should be "gunned down". No doubt it is one of Corbyn's far left followers in the Corbyn cult called Momentum issuing the threats.
The Labour shadow housing minister Melanie Onn was also told to "watch her back" after she threatened to quit if Labour back a 2nd referendum. "And your proof that it is a far left supporter? The police would welcome your input to apprehend the culprit! Or is it just you putting your 2 cents worth in? | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab .
That's hypocrisy right there, far right loons issuing death threats to MPs are terrorists, far left loons issuing death threats to children over a political hat are keyboard warriors?.
Good ol' fab indeed
Far left loons don't just issue death threats to children though. It's been reported in the press today a Labour front bencher who threatened to quit Corbyn's shadow cabinet if Corbyn backed a 2nd EU referendum was branded a "fucking traitor" who should be "gunned down". No doubt it is one of Corbyn's far left followers in the Corbyn cult called Momentum issuing the threats.
The Labour shadow housing minister Melanie Onn was also told to "watch her back" after she threatened to quit if Labour back a 2nd referendum.
And your proof that it is a far left supporter? The police would welcome your input to apprehend the culprit!
Or is it just you putting your 2 cents worth in?"Shouldn't that be 2 penneth! He is anti Eu afterall! | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab
Outrage over twitter comments is the snowflakes calling card.
Oh the horror..
Twitter faux outrage..
1st world problems.. ". Ok we'll have it your way, I never want to see you going on about leftist getting death threats again, if you do we all know it's just faux outrage on your part?. You had your chance to condemn violence, we all know where you stand. | |||
"Has this really gone from an OP about thwarted terrorism attacks to keyboard warriors on twitter ? Good ol fab
Outrage over twitter comments is the snowflakes calling card.
Oh the horror..
Twitter faux outrage..
1st world problems.. .
Ok we'll have it your way, I never want to see you going on about leftist getting death threats again, if you do we all know it's just faux outrage on your part?.
You had your chance to condemn violence, we all know where you stand."Zzzz.. Sorry none racist neo nationalist did you just say something..? Btw, your mixing up your twats on twitter talking twaddle and gobshitery with actual violence by whomever.. Get a grip.. | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then?" No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to  | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then?" From where? Everyone who comes in learns English to a basic level and a number of courses explaining some of the weird stuff that makes us British. Anyone can come in who has a job in place. Time to find a job if they lose it with benefits if they've paid tax for some period of time. The longer you worked the longer you have to find a new job. Illegal immigrants are assessed for status as asylum seekers as now. Open immigration centres, English lessons and those same British weirdness lessons. More resource to process so no years of waiting for a decision. Better still fix or at least improve the problem at source. Invest in the countries around conflict zones. Grow their economies and infrastructure with far less investment than it costs to police our borders. Help with reconstruction afterwards. Real soft power. What's your plan? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. " A.) Where did you get the stats on economic activity for both women in general, and Islamic women, alongside the kind of work their partners do. B.) What's an immigration CV? Do you mean an application to become a citizen, have a residence card, or get settled status? Or do you think people submit a CV before coming here? C.) Regarding "third world immigration". Jesus where to start. "Some even speak and write English", "some have great education and skills just not most". Okay who are the third world? Non-westernised countries? Secondarily, let's just presume you are right. Why are we restrictibv our immigration pool from Europe where most people have the same or better educational levels than here - and replacing them with people such as those you described above. D.) Okay, so you talk about "globalists" in the same way that far lefties and far righters talk about Jews. It's a fairly simple logically equation. Human beings constantly improve ourselves, our built environment and the systems we use. E.g using ladders in a warehouse progresses to using forklifts when the technology came. Yes automation is scary as this time there will be net jobs destroyed suitable for human labour than net created. But to rally against it is to hand a country like China the reigns to dominate us economically. If your scared be proactive, learn a skill, not a trade which can be transferable in the automated world. | |||
"No lefty terrorism then because we are the good guys... .
Oh while virtue signalling have troll through Twitter over your maga hat child, shall we call him a child, yes let's.
Yes this straight in from leftist Disney film maker... Put those kids in the woodchopper (with a nice picture of blood coming out of a woodchopper).
"Dox this little shit, I want his family to suffer".(meaning death threats).
And from a black leftists I read this,"lock these smirking shits in the school and burn that bitch to the ground".
All tick marked, all still on Twitter.
It's not like this is Orwells 1984 and this kid has committed a facecrime(yes straight out of the book) or summit.
The good noble left, willing to kill a kid for the right reasons!.
Faux outrage over a cartoon .Yet gets all triggered over black lives matter.
When real black children end up in body bags .Not a cartoon a real dead child!
Cartoon killing is equivalent to a real killing in the mind of the far right loons..
You must wear clown shows and have a red nose.
As it's straight from the neocon clown playbook ..
Your away with the fairies . .
I don't get triggered over anything except maybe the hypocrisy of leftist virtue signallers.
I recommend reading Twitter comments to see the gleeful delight in violence by the progressives towards children over a hat and a smirk.
I mean this has been played out for hundreds of years by the left, say nice things to obtain power then utter brutality to anybody who dares use the wrong facial expression.
It's all just a little bit of history repeating "I recommend not reading Twitter comments to save your time, patience and ability to reason. Also "the left has been doing this for hundreds of years." Jesus, didn't realise modern left/right politics was more than a hundred or so years old, two hundred tops. Blosdy hell, can you imagine a left leaning knight 500 years ago screaming , "EQUALITY FOR ALL! GOD DOES NOT EXIST WE ARE EQUAL IN TGE EYES OF THE LAW!" | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? From where? Everyone who comes in learns English to a basic level and a number of courses explaining some of the weird stuff that makes us British. Anyone can come in who has a job in place. Time to find a job if they lose it with benefits if they've paid tax for some period of time. The longer you worked the longer you have to find a new job. Illegal immigrants are assessed for status as asylum seekers as now. Open immigration centres, English lessons and those same British weirdness lessons. More resource to process so no years of waiting for a decision. Better still fix or at least improve the problem at source. Invest in the countries around conflict zones. Grow their economies and infrastructure with far less investment than it costs to police our borders. Help with reconstruction afterwards. Real soft power. What's your plan?" ...and take climate change seriously. Prevent the rising sea levels and famines that will drive conflict and migration. Educate the poorest throughout the world. Particularly women who will then have smaller families and, actually drive much family wealth creation in poor countries. | |||
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"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then?" Your turn  | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? From where? Everyone who comes in learns English to a basic level and a number of courses explaining some of the weird stuff that makes us British. Anyone can come in who has a job in place. Time to find a job if they lose it with benefits if they've paid tax for some period of time. The longer you worked the longer you have to find a new job. Illegal immigrants are assessed for status as asylum seekers as now. Open immigration centres, English lessons and those same British weirdness lessons. More resource to process so no years of waiting for a decision. Better still fix or at least improve the problem at source. Invest in the countries around conflict zones. Grow their economies and infrastructure with far less investment than it costs to police our borders. Help with reconstruction afterwards. Real soft power. What's your plan? ...and take climate change seriously. Prevent the rising sea levels and famines that will drive conflict and migration. Educate the poorest throughout the world. Particularly women who will then have smaller families and, actually drive much family wealth creation in poor countries." Best way to achieve that is through global free trade. By leaving the EU we are freeing ourselves from a protectionist trade block with an external tariff barrier. We can then offer genuine free trade to poor countries through new trade deals which will help to make those countries richer. The protectionist trade policies of the EU are fueling world poverty in places like Africa. | |||
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"The EU gives unilateral, duty-free access to the single market for the 33 poorest countries in Africa. Its known as the Everything but Arms initiative." Looks like it's also offering free movement of people to most of Africa too at the moment with the amount coming over the Mediterranean Sea. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? From where? Everyone who comes in learns English to a basic level and a number of courses explaining some of the weird stuff that makes us British. Anyone can come in who has a job in place. Time to find a job if they lose it with benefits if they've paid tax for some period of time. The longer you worked the longer you have to find a new job. Illegal immigrants are assessed for status as asylum seekers as now. Open immigration centres, English lessons and those same British weirdness lessons. More resource to process so no years of waiting for a decision. Better still fix or at least improve the problem at source. Invest in the countries around conflict zones. Grow their economies and infrastructure with far less investment than it costs to police our borders. Help with reconstruction afterwards. Real soft power. What's your plan? ...and take climate change seriously. Prevent the rising sea levels and famines that will drive conflict and migration. Educate the poorest throughout the world. Particularly women who will then have smaller families and, actually drive much family wealth creation in poor countries. Best way to achieve that is through global free trade. By leaving the EU we are freeing ourselves from a protectionist trade block with an external tariff barrier. We can then offer genuine free trade to poor countries through new trade deals which will help to make those countries richer. The protectionist trade policies of the EU are fueling world poverty in places like Africa. " For goodness sake, do you have no idea whatsoever about the EU's free trade deals and the free trade with developing countries? | |||
"The EU gives unilateral, duty-free access to the single market for the 33 poorest countries in Africa. Its known as the Everything but Arms initiative. Looks like it's also offering free movement of people to most of Africa too at the moment with the amount coming over the Mediterranean Sea. "Deflection. EBA covers non African countries too. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? From where? Everyone who comes in learns English to a basic level and a number of courses explaining some of the weird stuff that makes us British. Anyone can come in who has a job in place. Time to find a job if they lose it with benefits if they've paid tax for some period of time. The longer you worked the longer you have to find a new job. Illegal immigrants are assessed for status as asylum seekers as now. Open immigration centres, English lessons and those same British weirdness lessons. More resource to process so no years of waiting for a decision. Better still fix or at least improve the problem at source. Invest in the countries around conflict zones. Grow their economies and infrastructure with far less investment than it costs to police our borders. Help with reconstruction afterwards. Real soft power. What's your plan? ...and take climate change seriously. Prevent the rising sea levels and famines that will drive conflict and migration. Educate the poorest throughout the world. Particularly women who will then have smaller families and, actually drive much family wealth creation in poor countries. Best way to achieve that is through global free trade. By leaving the EU we are freeing ourselves from a protectionist trade block with an external tariff barrier. We can then offer genuine free trade to poor countries through new trade deals which will help to make those countries richer. The protectionist trade policies of the EU are fueling world poverty in places like Africa. For goodness sake, do you have no idea whatsoever about the EU's free trade deals and the free trade with developing countries?" It appears you have no idea whatsoever about the EU's external tariff barrier. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? From where? Everyone who comes in learns English to a basic level and a number of courses explaining some of the weird stuff that makes us British. Anyone can come in who has a job in place. Time to find a job if they lose it with benefits if they've paid tax for some period of time. The longer you worked the longer you have to find a new job. Illegal immigrants are assessed for status as asylum seekers as now. Open immigration centres, English lessons and those same British weirdness lessons. More resource to process so no years of waiting for a decision. Better still fix or at least improve the problem at source. Invest in the countries around conflict zones. Grow their economies and infrastructure with far less investment than it costs to police our borders. Help with reconstruction afterwards. Real soft power. What's your plan? ...and take climate change seriously. Prevent the rising sea levels and famines that will drive conflict and migration. Educate the poorest throughout the world. Particularly women who will then have smaller families and, actually drive much family wealth creation in poor countries. Best way to achieve that is through global free trade. By leaving the EU we are freeing ourselves from a protectionist trade block with an external tariff barrier. We can then offer genuine free trade to poor countries through new trade deals which will help to make those countries richer. The protectionist trade policies of the EU are fueling world poverty in places like Africa. For goodness sake, do you have no idea whatsoever about the EU's free trade deals and the free trade with developing countries? It appears you have no idea whatsoever about the EU's external tariff barrier. " Here's the thing.....I do. Youre arguing for something that already exists as part of our membership of the EU and presenting it as a blinding piece of innovative thinking. Not quite the economic genius you like to think you are | |||
"The EU gives unilateral, duty-free access to the single market for the 33 poorest countries in Africa. Its known as the Everything but Arms initiative. Looks like it's also offering free movement of people to most of Africa too at the moment with the amount coming over the Mediterranean Sea. "Hilarious. How would you "solve" the immigration problem? With the global tariff free trade for the poorest nations that we already have? Minus the "wasted" international development spending of course | |||
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"Can someone confirm that bringing in measures to prevent your domestic markey being flooded by cheaper foreign alternatives is protrvtionary. And therefore bad. Because it seems we don’t like the EU for doing taking this (alleged although EBA does contradtxit this to some extent) policy... yet it’s the goods version of immigration control. " The simple truth is... If the EU does something it's shockingly wrong according to brexit voters If its suggested the UK do the same thing its championed as taking back control and being oen for business | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn "You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer.... | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer...."Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn "My apologies, I missed it. I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well. I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so. I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state. People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years. They should not have access to social housing. They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar). People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing. I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception). Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years. There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits. I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc). Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc). | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
"You've more or less defined the system as it is. What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes? | |||
"No lefty terrorism then because we are the good guys... .
Oh while virtue signalling have troll through Twitter over your maga hat child, shall we call him a child, yes let's.
Yes this straight in from leftist Disney film maker... Put those kids in the woodchopper (with a nice picture of blood coming out of a woodchopper).
"Dox this little shit, I want his family to suffer".(meaning death threats).
And from a black leftists I read this,"lock these smirking shits in the school and burn that bitch to the ground".
All tick marked, all still on Twitter.
It's not like this is Orwells 1984 and this kid has committed a facecrime(yes straight out of the book) or summit.
The good noble left, willing to kill a kid for the right reasons!.
Faux outrage over a cartoon .Yet gets all triggered over black lives matter.
When real black children end up in body bags .Not a cartoon a real dead child!
Cartoon killing is equivalent to a real killing in the mind of the far right loons..
You must wear clown shows and have a red nose.
As it's straight from the neocon clown playbook ..
Your away with the fairies . .
I don't get triggered over anything except maybe the hypocrisy of leftist virtue signallers.
I recommend reading Twitter comments to see the gleeful delight in violence by the progressives towards children over a hat and a smirk.
I mean this has been played out for hundreds of years by the left, say nice things to obtain power then utter brutality to anybody who dares use the wrong facial expression.
It's all just a little bit of history repeating
I recommend not reading Twitter comments to save your time, patience and ability to reason.
Also "the left has been doing this for hundreds of years." Jesus, didn't realise modern left/right politics was more than a hundred or so years old, two hundred tops.
Blosdy hell, can you imagine a left leaning knight 500 years ago screaming , "EQUALITY FOR ALL! GOD DOES NOT EXIST WE ARE EQUAL IN TGE EYES OF THE LAW!"". I'm sorry I say hundreds which means 200 when Rousseau was clearly only 184 years ago!. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?"Skills based requirements. No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers). Restriction of benefits. Requirement to have private health insurance. Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents. No access to social housing Requirement to become UK citizens. Additional expenditure on infrastructure. No access to benefits. Immediate deportation for criminals. | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then? No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to ". Spurious numbers? No it was just a question at how many people in the world do you think have a right to asylum in the UK?. You like to throw in lines like "how long do you think you can remain isolated" haha like I'm pulling up the drawbridge by saying no to mass madness immigration! | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?
Skills based requirements.
No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers).
Restriction of benefits.
Requirement to have private health insurance.
Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents.
No access to social housing
Requirement to become UK citizens.
Additional expenditure on infrastructure.
No access to benefits.
Immediate deportation for criminals." EasyUk's line that you had described the system as it currently is on your previous post was laughable. His ignorance on this is astonishing. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?
Skills based requirements.
No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers).
Restriction of benefits.
Requirement to have private health insurance.
Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents.
No access to social housing
Requirement to become UK citizens.
Additional expenditure on infrastructure.
No access to benefits.
Immediate deportation for criminals.
EasyUk's line that you had described the system as it currently is on your previous post was laughable. His ignorance on this is astonishing. " | |||
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"With all the brexit red tape making the ferry ports into lorry parks I would of thought it would make it easier for illegal immigrants to get aboard them when they are all parked up. A no deal brexit would seem advantageous to illegal immigrants.. " bob you will be over the moon the more the merrier for you buddy lol | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?
Skills based requirements.
No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers).
Restriction of benefits.
Requirement to have private health insurance.
Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents.
No access to social housing
Requirement to become UK citizens.
Additional expenditure on infrastructure.
No access to benefits.
Immediate deportation for criminals."That covers the non-EEA immigration requirements. Did you not know this? EEA citizens also have restrictions on benefits and leave to remain. We just don't seem to apply them. The skills that we are missing range from doctors and engineers to bus drivers, care workers and fruit pickers. Professional qualifications already require conversion or equivalency. Free movement of workers allows these jobs to be easily filled quickly and without undue bureaucracy. As Centaur keeps saying, we have almost full employment. Guess what, that also means that almost every single immigrant is also employed so we clearly need them here now! As I said, you just seem to want to deny people who pay tax what they are paying for. Healthcare is universal and I don't see why someone paying their tax shouldn't be cared for. What's your reasoning? What's the purpose of becoming a British citizen? How does that help anyone? What's wrong with the residency system that exists now? The legal system treats everyone equally and without prejudice. That's rather the point of it. The law makes mistakes and it is absolutely right that it should be challenged. Increasing spending in line with immigration? Why not just improve infrastructure as it's needed? We have failed to do that as a country regardless of immigration well before joining the EU. There is almost nothing new here other than treating some taxpayers differently to others. Not based on need, but based on place of birth. Did you really not know this? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?
Skills based requirements.
No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers).
Restriction of benefits.
Requirement to have private health insurance.
Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents.
No access to social housing
Requirement to become UK citizens.
Additional expenditure on infrastructure.
No access to benefits.
Immediate deportation for criminals.
EasyUk's line that you had described the system as it currently is on your previous post was laughable. His ignorance on this is astonishing. "Actually, if you look at anything other than the Express and your anti-EU and right-wing conspiracy sites, you'll see that you are the one apparently in the dark despite being so vocal about it. You are in a bubble and don't even realise it. Why not start with the gov.uk website? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then? No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to .
Spurious numbers? No it was just a question at how many people in the world do you think have a right to asylum in the UK?.
You like to throw in lines like "how long do you think you can remain isolated" haha like I'm pulling up the drawbridge by saying no to mass madness immigration! "Are you really incapable of understanding that I have not said that mass, uncontrolled migration is a good thing? MASS UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION IS NOT A GOOD THING However, I have never intention of dehumanising people and treating them like animals because they sell their lives out of fear or poverty to find something better. As you appear to completely lack empathy I will not try to explain that any further. The push leading people to leave their homes is significant. Walls, fences, gun boats and machine gun posts will not keep 4bn people out if they have no food or water because of climate change. What's your genius solution for maintaining genetic purity? | |||
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" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then? No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to .
Spurious numbers? No it was just a question at how many people in the world do you think have a right to asylum in the UK?.
You like to throw in lines like "how long do you think you can remain isolated" haha like I'm pulling up the drawbridge by saying no to mass madness immigration!
Are you really incapable of understanding that I have not said that mass, uncontrolled migration is a good thing?
MASS UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION IS NOT A GOOD THING
However, I have never intention of dehumanising people and treating them like animals because they sell their lives out of fear or poverty to find something better.
As you appear to completely lack empathy I will not try to explain that any further.
The push leading people to leave their homes is significant. Walls, fences, gun boats and machine gun posts will not keep 4bn people out if they have no food or water because of climate change.
What's your genius solution for maintaining genetic purity? ". Omg it's climate change, I knew it would be, it's like a cuck leftist wet dream.. So these 4bn , how many get the right to come to the UK?. | |||
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"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. " is that also the case in the U.K. ? | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then? No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to .
Spurious numbers? No it was just a question at how many people in the world do you think have a right to asylum in the UK?.
You like to throw in lines like "how long do you think you can remain isolated" haha like I'm pulling up the drawbridge by saying no to mass madness immigration!
Are you really incapable of understanding that I have not said that mass, uncontrolled migration is a good thing?
MASS UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION IS NOT A GOOD THING
However, I have never intention of dehumanising people and treating them like animals because they sell their lives out of fear or poverty to find something better.
As you appear to completely lack empathy I will not try to explain that any further.
The push leading people to leave their homes is significant. Walls, fences, gun boats and machine gun posts will not keep 4bn people out if they have no food or water because of climate change.
What's your genius solution for maintaining genetic purity? .
Omg it's climate change, I knew it would be, it's like a cuck leftist wet dream..
So these 4bn , how many get the right to come to the UK?."An excellent and coherent response
Have you perhaps not understood, again?
If 4bn people want to come to the UK because their world has turned to crap they are coming. What will we do to stop them?
What's your plan? Pretend it isn't happening? | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. " . What there's more head chopping, lorry ramming, machete hacking, bombing trains and shooting done by white terrorists than brown ones?. I doubt that to be honest, I would imagine they've done what governments always do and fiddle the figures to make sheeple rest easy in they're beds. | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then? No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to .
Spurious numbers? No it was just a question at how many people in the world do you think have a right to asylum in the UK?.
You like to throw in lines like "how long do you think you can remain isolated" haha like I'm pulling up the drawbridge by saying no to mass madness immigration!
Are you really incapable of understanding that I have not said that mass, uncontrolled migration is a good thing?
MASS UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION IS NOT A GOOD THING
However, I have never intention of dehumanising people and treating them like animals because they sell their lives out of fear or poverty to find something better.
As you appear to completely lack empathy I will not try to explain that any further.
The push leading people to leave their homes is significant. Walls, fences, gun boats and machine gun posts will not keep 4bn people out if they have no food or water because of climate change.
What's your genius solution for maintaining genetic purity? .
Omg it's climate change, I knew it would be, it's like a cuck leftist wet dream..
So these 4bn , how many get the right to come to the UK?.
An excellent and coherent response
Have you perhaps not understood, again?
If 4bn people want to come to the UK because their world has turned to crap they are coming. What will we do to stop them?
What's your plan? Pretend it isn't happening?". We haven't got on to plans just yet, let's just try and get a figure of you about how many of the 4bn do you think have a RIGHT to come the UK?. | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?
Skills based requirements.
No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers).
Restriction of benefits.
Requirement to have private health insurance.
Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents.
No access to social housing
Requirement to become UK citizens.
Additional expenditure on infrastructure.
No access to benefits.
Immediate deportation for criminals.
That covers the non-EEA immigration requirements.
Did you not know this?
EEA citizens also have restrictions on benefits and leave to remain. We just don't seem to apply them.
The skills that we are missing range from doctors and engineers to bus drivers, care workers and fruit pickers. Professional qualifications already require conversion or equivalency.
Free movement of workers allows these jobs to be easily filled quickly and without undue bureaucracy.
As Centaur keeps saying, we have almost full employment. Guess what, that also means that almost every single immigrant is also employed so we clearly need them here now!
As I said, you just seem to want to deny people who pay tax what they are paying for.
Healthcare is universal and I don't see why someone paying their tax shouldn't be cared for. What's your reasoning?
What's the purpose of becoming a British citizen? How does that help anyone? What's wrong with the residency system that exists now?
The legal system treats everyone equally and without prejudice. That's rather the point of it. The law makes mistakes and it is absolutely right that it should be challenged.
Increasing spending in line with immigration? Why not just improve infrastructure as it's needed? We have failed to do that as a country regardless of immigration well before joining the EU.
There is almost nothing new here other than treating some taxpayers differently to others. Not based on need, but based on place of birth.
Did you really not know this?"But I think it should apply to all..... However...you say immigration should be controlled...and yet you advocate for free movement Mmmmm.... | |||
" the EU's failings on dealing with the migration crisis sweeping across Europe during the summer of 2016. It's highlighting a failure in EU policy. The EU still hasn't dealt with it now and the migration crisis is still ongoing. You do like to use the migration crisis to beat the EU about the head with. With so many displaced people fleeing war torn Countries, many that we've had a hand in bringing misery to, what is the solution Centaur? What would you do to solve the mass migration from War torn countries? You always go on about it so you must have a solution surely? . Is the starting point honesty?. Because most of them aren't fleeing war torn countries and Libya and Syria were nothing to do with us (thankfully the globalists labour and conservatives were kept at bay over them). There fleeing poverty and discrimination over many things that is true, there fleeing restrictive governments, national service and economic migrants can be trying to improve there lot in life and nobody thinks that's a bad thing, however let's be honest, how many people in the world fall into those categories?. The entire middle East, nearly all of Africa, most of the far East, all of China, most of South America, Russia. 4 billion? How many get to come to the UK? If 4 billion want to come how do you plan to stop them? If war and climate change come, what's your plan? How long do you think you can live in isolation? You engage and find global solutions or you will be overwhelmed. We and the French drew the maps in most of Africa and the Middle East when we left. Deliberately leaving states divided on ethnic and religious lines that we hoped would be weak and pliable. We sowed the seeds. The white European folk who immigrated there and really did strip the countries clean. We caused this. Is that racist?. So what's the number then? No idea. You like digging up spurious numbers. Have fun with it. That wasn't the substantive point being made was it, yet that's what you respond to .
Spurious numbers? No it was just a question at how many people in the world do you think have a right to asylum in the UK?.
You like to throw in lines like "how long do you think you can remain isolated" haha like I'm pulling up the drawbridge by saying no to mass madness immigration!
Are you really incapable of understanding that I have not said that mass, uncontrolled migration is a good thing?
MASS UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION IS NOT A GOOD THING
However, I have never intention of dehumanising people and treating them like animals because they sell their lives out of fear or poverty to find something better.
As you appear to completely lack empathy I will not try to explain that any further.
The push leading people to leave their homes is significant. Walls, fences, gun boats and machine gun posts will not keep 4bn people out if they have no food or water because of climate change.
What's your genius solution for maintaining genetic purity? .
Omg it's climate change, I knew it would be, it's like a cuck leftist wet dream..
So these 4bn , how many get the right to come to the UK?.
An excellent and coherent response
Have you perhaps not understood, again?
If 4bn people want to come to the UK because their world has turned to crap they are coming. What will we do to stop them?
What's your plan? Pretend it isn't happening?.
We haven't got on to plans just yet, let's just try and get a figure of you about how many of the 4bn do you think have a RIGHT to come the UK?."We seem to need several million as they are all employed. Again, what's your plan? Keep them in work camps on an annual rotation and not let them breed with the natives? | |||
"Just dropped these stats into a live Facebook chat on Parliament square today. Seems the yellow jacket chaps don’t like to hear real talk. Oh? Id have thought they would have expected that most terrorist plots are from Islamic groups. be carefull buddy any mention on here about any wrongdoing by Islamic groups and yr labled a racist lol Foxy that is complete and utter bollocks.. No one, not one single person has ever called anyone anything derogatory when rightly so the vile actions of extremist terrorism by the taliban and the IS has been condemned.. And the actions of them have been utterly condemned by all regardless.. however the same can't sadly be said with some on here when far right extremists are in the news.. sorry i thought you would of seen the lol at the end it’s just that some on here go ape shit if you don’t mention all the terrorist groups meaning the far right should of been on his post aswell it’s same when there’s a post about Asian grooming gangs there as to be the Catholic Church and such shot in the mix to pls every one you know it doesn’t take a lot on here to upset someone lol It's usually generalisation that's the problem. Asian grooming gangs = All Asian men are paedophiles Islamic terrorists = All Muslims are terrorists Therefore we need controls on immigration, yadda, yadda, yadda The same isn't said for all Catholics or all white men under the same circumstances. Are you not seeing that bit?. Controls on immigration you say! How very dare us, some immigration may be good some not as good, for instance 58% of all Muslim women are economically inactive ie there not looking for work, this compares to 26% for women in general as a trend that's something to think about when looking through CVs for immigration into this country... That is unless we really need women who are just here to have kids and look after the houses while their husbands work two jobs in menial employment, that's also a significant trend. I thought the liberal elite were desperate to reinvent Britain into a technocracy with the rising third world doing the menial grafting work?. Of course that's a generalisation on third world immigration some have great education and skills, some even speak and write English just most don't and even the ones that are skilled find we don't have job for there skill or education anyhow so just drive taxis. I'm sure the globalists have some what of a plan what they'll do when we've got automated fast food and Ubers, automated warehouses and everything is sold online so no shops and all this in a mere single generations time. Maybe we should have a referendum on immigration policy once and for all?. Immigration should be controlled. I have never said that it shouldn't. I just don't think that spurious reasons should be used to bar one particular type of person. To be more specific. The tiny minority of Muslim and Asian criminals and terrorists are being used to demonise all Asians and Muslims. It is also used as a pretext to not accept genuine refugees and asylum seekers. Just in case. You are particularly good at generalisation. Being economically inactive doesn't make someone inactive doesn't make someone inactive or a burden does it? Perhaps you think that it does? Your plan is that everyone should stay where they are and not mix too much, if at all? Intermarriage all a bit too risky for a cohesive society? Keep everything nice and pure? I mean, there were no social problems anywhere before those foreign types turned up. Right? How would you control immigration then? Your turn
You said immigration should be controlled....so I've asked you how you would control it....but you can't answer....
Why don't you scroll up and do some reading? There are two posts from me
As I said, your turn
My apologies, I missed it.
I think there should be a skills based system, based on the skills that the country needs. In line with that though, I also think that if we say we need certain skills, then we should also increase training in those skills as well.
I think that any skills based qualifications that people have used to come here should be 'converted' to the equivalent UK qualifications within a reasonable time period..and that they should pay for the courses and exams to do so.
I think people coming here should be able to prove that they won't be a financial burden on the state.
People should not have access to any benefits for a minimum of 2 years, and some benefits for up to 5 years.
They should not have access to social housing.
They should have health insurance for a minimum of 5 years...or pay an enhanced NI (or similar).
People should have basic language skills, and certainly those skills should be enhanced dependant upon the job they're doing.
I think that, irrespective of where people come from, the rules should be the same for everyone (our relationship with the RoI being an exception).
Younger people could be given a limited 'young persons visa' (say, 18 to 28 or 30) so that they can come for a limited period of time, and work. Degree education should be allowed, but if people don't attend, then they get deported and barred from re-entry under any circumstances for a minimum of 10 years.
There should be a requirement that, after a certain period, immigrants should have to become British Citizens....maybe until they do so then they won't be entitled to certain benefits.
I also think that, in the wider context, there should be some sort of infrastructure cost attached to immigration. So for the increase in the population, then there should be a responsibility on the government to put additional resource into national infrastructure (education, health, roads, utilities, policing, etc).
Certain crimes should also be punished with rescinding of citizenship and immediate deportation after release from prison (paedophilia, murder, violence, terrorism, racism, serious fraud, etc).
You've more or less defined the system as it is.
What is substantially different other than not allowing some people access to some of the things that they pay for through their taxes?
Skills based requirements.
No freedom of movement (restriction of numbers).
Restriction of benefits.
Requirement to have private health insurance.
Conversion of skills based qualifications to UK equivalents.
No access to social housing
Requirement to become UK citizens.
Additional expenditure on infrastructure.
No access to benefits.
Immediate deportation for criminals.
That covers the non-EEA immigration requirements.
Did you not know this?
EEA citizens also have restrictions on benefits and leave to remain. We just don't seem to apply them.
The skills that we are missing range from doctors and engineers to bus drivers, care workers and fruit pickers. Professional qualifications already require conversion or equivalency.
Free movement of workers allows these jobs to be easily filled quickly and without undue bureaucracy.
As Centaur keeps saying, we have almost full employment. Guess what, that also means that almost every single immigrant is also employed so we clearly need them here now!
As I said, you just seem to want to deny people who pay tax what they are paying for.
Healthcare is universal and I don't see why someone paying their tax shouldn't be cared for. What's your reasoning?
What's the purpose of becoming a British citizen? How does that help anyone? What's wrong with the residency system that exists now?
The legal system treats everyone equally and without prejudice. That's rather the point of it. The law makes mistakes and it is absolutely right that it should be challenged.
Increasing spending in line with immigration? Why not just improve infrastructure as it's needed? We have failed to do that as a country regardless of immigration well before joining the EU.
There is almost nothing new here other than treating some taxpayers differently to others. Not based on need, but based on place of birth.
Did you really not know this?
But I think it should apply to all.....
However...you say immigration should be controlled...and yet you advocate for free movement
Mmmmm...."People come and go. That's the point. The earlier incarnation of the EU didn't have an economic gradient so people moved around a little. The recent expansion had a much bigger economic disparity. For some reason we (as a sovereign country) chose not to control immigration like everyone else so we had a mass influx. That is actually settling out now as their home economies grow. Some will stay and make this home bit others will return. Rather than being dicks about it and shouting at everyone we could have negotiated a variation on your idea of infrastructure spending and had the EU stump up some cash for capital expenditure to cope with the spike. Instead we demanded fundamental changes in the principles of the EU with a halt to free movement. There was a win in there but our government acted the tough guy for their internal politics. | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ?" Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. . What there's more head chopping, lorry ramming, machete hacking, bombing trains and shooting done by white terrorists than brown ones?. I doubt that to be honest, I would imagine they've done what governments always do and fiddle the figures to make sheeple rest easy in they're beds." The figures are compiled by the US Government. It's called the Global Terrorism Index. I prefer evidence to prejudice. | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. " so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ? | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ?" The figures are out there. The House of Commons Library, for example, has briefing reports for MPs that are on-line. The majority were white British (Northern Ireland). The last time I read of a terror case involving a machete was a white supremacist planning to attack Barrow Pride. The last time I read of a terror case involving a vehicle attack was a white supremacist planning a vehicle attack on a football crowd in Workington. I'm not downplaying the risk from Islamic nutters - those types make up the largest single group of people currently behind bars. But Ireland has never gone away and the disaffected white supremacist - young, white male, usually unemployed and excluded, with a serious grievance about his shitty life - is an increasing threat. | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ? The figures are out there. The House of Commons Library, for example, has briefing reports for MPs that are on-line. The majority were white British (Northern Ireland). The last time I read of a terror case involving a machete was a white supremacist planning to attack Barrow Pride. The last time I read of a terror case involving a vehicle attack was a white supremacist planning a vehicle attack on a football crowd in Workington. I'm not downplaying the risk from Islamic nutters - those types make up the largest single group of people currently behind bars. But Ireland has never gone away and the disaffected white supremacist - young, white male, usually unemployed and excluded, with a serious grievance about his shitty life - is an increasing threat. " not just behind bars being wached aswell and you are playing it down tho it’s ok I know why that’s why you pointed out the smallest minority in the terror attacks the young white male woth the shitty life | |||
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"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ? The figures are out there. The House of Commons Library, for example, has briefing reports for MPs that are on-line. The majority were white British (Northern Ireland). The last time I read of a terror case involving a machete was a white supremacist planning to attack Barrow Pride. The last time I read of a terror case involving a vehicle attack was a white supremacist planning a vehicle attack on a football crowd in Workington. I'm not downplaying the risk from Islamic nutters - those types make up the largest single group of people currently behind bars. But Ireland has never gone away and the disaffected white supremacist - young, white male, usually unemployed and excluded, with a serious grievance about his shitty life - is an increasing threat. not just behind bars being wached aswell and you are playing it down tho it’s ok I know why that’s why you pointed out the smallest minority in the terror attacks the young white male woth the shitty life " Why must the published statistics not be correct? What information do you have available to you at a national or international level that allows you to know this? | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. . What there's more head chopping, lorry ramming, machete hacking, bombing trains and shooting done by white terrorists than brown ones?. I doubt that to be honest, I would imagine they've done what governments always do and fiddle the figures to make sheeple rest easy in they're beds. The figures are compiled by the US Government. It's called the Global Terrorism Index. I prefer evidence to prejudice. " . So your a firm believer in gov inflation rates then? Unemployment?, Housing?. It's so very easy to manipulate figures, I was schooled on this on another thread, figures mean nothing, it's how you interpret them that counts .
50 year lows are easy when we've just come out of a civil war in Ireland, it's like saying Syria deaths are at 2 year low. | |||
" Why do you feel the need to resort to personal attack? The figures are out there. Not my fault if they don't match the soundtrack playing in your head. Pls can you show me were I personally attacked you ? All I done was reply respectfully to yr post did I not ? " | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ? The figures are out there. The House of Commons Library, for example, has briefing reports for MPs that are on-line. The majority were white British (Northern Ireland). The last time I read of a terror case involving a machete was a white supremacist planning to attack Barrow Pride. The last time I read of a terror case involving a vehicle attack was a white supremacist planning a vehicle attack on a football crowd in Workington. I'm not downplaying the risk from Islamic nutters - those types make up the largest single group of people currently behind bars. But Ireland has never gone away and the disaffected white supremacist - young, white male, usually unemployed and excluded, with a serious grievance about his shitty life - is an increasing threat. not just behind bars being wached aswell and you are playing it down tho it’s ok I know why that’s why you pointed out the smallest minority in the terror attacks the young white male woth the shitty life Why must the published statistics not be correct? What information do you have available to you at a national or international level that allows you to know this?" what the hell are you on about now where have I said there not correct | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ? The figures are out there. The House of Commons Library, for example, has briefing reports for MPs that are on-line. The majority were white British (Northern Ireland). The last time I read of a terror case involving a machete was a white supremacist planning to attack Barrow Pride. The last time I read of a terror case involving a vehicle attack was a white supremacist planning a vehicle attack on a football crowd in Workington. I'm not downplaying the risk from Islamic nutters - those types make up the largest single group of people currently behind bars. But Ireland has never gone away and the disaffected white supremacist - young, white male, usually unemployed and excluded, with a serious grievance about his shitty life - is an increasing threat. " . Sorry I'm going to have to pick you up on this seen as nobody else has... White supremacists in Northern Ireland? Are you shitting me, who they fighting the Africans .
I thought it was fellow whites?. | |||
"The majority of terrorist atrocities in North America and Western Europe are now being committed by white nationalist, far-right or those with anti-Muslim beliefs. is that also the case in the U.K. ? Deaths from terror in the UK are at a 50 year low. Across the EU, there were more than 200 terror incidents in 2017. More than half were in the UK alone. Of these, Northern Ireland accounted for the majority. If that seems incongruous, consider the difference between how the media reports a terrorist incident on the UK mainland and how it reports a terrorist incident in Northern Ireland. so half were in the U.K. wonder how many of them were by white nationalists far-right or those with anti Muslim beliefs then ? The figures are out there. The House of Commons Library, for example, has briefing reports for MPs that are on-line. The majority were white British (Northern Ireland). The last time I read of a terror case involving a machete was a white supremacist planning to attack Barrow Pride. The last time I read of a terror case involving a vehicle attack was a white supremacist planning a vehicle attack on a football crowd in Workington. I'm not downplaying the risk from Islamic nutters - those types make up the largest single group of people currently behind bars. But Ireland has never gone away and the disaffected white supremacist - young, white male, usually unemployed and excluded, with a serious grievance about his shitty life - is an increasing threat. not just behind bars being wached aswell and you are playing it down tho it’s ok I know why that’s why you pointed out the smallest minority in the terror attacks the young white male woth the shitty life Why must the published statistics not be correct? What information do you have available to you at a national or international level that allows you to know this? what the hell are you on about now where have I said there not correct " Because you seemed to imply that the threat of white terrorists was being over-emphasised when the stats being quoted say the opposite. | |||
