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Can anybody explain without the histrionics how Brexit is going to be good for industry, banking and job creation?
At the moment I see lots of scare stories. Let’s have some positive spin on things if we can?  |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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There is simply NO POINT to Brexit other than to satisfy a misplaced sense of British exceptionalism that far too many people seem to carry around.
It will be bad for many businesses, bad for people and bad for the Government. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
People ignored the business and economic warnings in 2016 and I’ve seen nothing to convince me anything has changed.
The leave vote was multi-faceted, of course, but an element saw business bosses as part of the problem. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can anybody explain without the histrionics how Brexit is going to be good for industry, banking and job creation?
At the moment I see lots of scare stories. Let’s have some positive spin on things if we can? "
There is a wealth of information on this on line. Take a look and see for yourself. See if you agree, or if you think it’s all a load of rubbish.
Spoiler. There are very little in the way of positives. |
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"There won't be a brexit! Stop worrying about it! It'll be killed by bureaucracy. Nothing more nothing less. "
Who is worried. I’m inviting comment as to how it would benefit in the aforementioned areas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There won't be a brexit! Stop worrying about it! It'll be killed by bureaucracy. Nothing more nothing less.
Who is worried. I’m inviting comment as to how it would benefit in the aforementioned areas. "
It’s a bold endeavour, the reality isn’t positive. But there are plenty of people here who believe in Brexit regardless of the facts and will no doubt be on soon to give you some very wishy washy anecdotal examples of something that maybe could be a positive if you look at it in isolation instead of the big picture.
It’s really not about opinions, it’s about what’s actually happening. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’ll be great once the EU have changed their rules for us and once the WTO have changed their rules for us.
Getting them both to do this will be easiest negotiation for ever and ever.
So there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand"
As opposed to having your head in the clouds. |
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"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand"
There are 13 Comments on this thread as I write this can’t see it written a million times.
You’re comment is therefore fake news.
Have a nice day.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand"
Exhibit A, your honour. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand"
Has it escaped your attention that “we” are so spectacularly shit at negotiating our way out of a friendly union that “doing” hostile deals with the adversarial opponents in the rest of the world might just prove a tad testing.
In truth, past performance is never an indicator of future performance but the track record so far does not instil the greatest confidence in the ability of Liam Fox and his team to deliver very much to cheer about.
Which other normally sensible country has ever ripped up the best deal that was available and which already had secondary deal with the rest of the world? And for what? To replace the best single deal with hundreds of inferior little deals?
And the actual point of Brexshit is????
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand"
Do how come Germany manages a $20bn trade surplus with China whilst we have a $34bn deficit?
What's going to change? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing."
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Can anybody explain without the histrionics how Brexit is going to be good for industry, banking and job creation?
At the moment I see lots of scare stories. Let’s have some positive spin on things if we can? "
Reduced employment protection? Lower product standards? Less financial prudential regulation?
All technically good for business if you subscribe to that approach to doing things. |
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"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand
There are 13 Comments on this thread as I write this can’t see it written a million times.
You’re comment is therefore fake news.
Have a nice day.
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Try reading some other threads. The topic has been done to death. |
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"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV? "
Mike Ashley is looking to invest in HMV isn't he, maybe a takeover of the company. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Mike Ashley is looking to invest in HMV isn't he, maybe a takeover of the company. "
How is this a benefit to business from Brexit?
More bankrupt companies to buy cheaply out of insolvency? |
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"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Mike Ashley is looking to invest in HMV isn't he, maybe a takeover of the company.
How is this a benefit to business from Brexit?
More bankrupt companies to buy cheaply out of insolvency?"
You asked who would invest in high street retail. You said it looked negative. You specifically mentioned HMV. I gave you an answer. But as usual when you get an answer you don't like you ask another 20 questions.
Anyhow, it's a benefit to business by keeping more trade on the high street, more choice for the consumer, more competition usually equals better price for the consumer. More people employed in these shops and paying tax equals more money for the Treasury.
High Street companies are not going bankrupt because of Brexit, that's just a lazy remainers excuse. They're struggling because of unfair competition from online shopping and changing consumer habits. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Mike Ashley is looking to invest in HMV isn't he, maybe a takeover of the company.
How is this a benefit to business from Brexit?
More bankrupt companies to buy cheaply out of insolvency?
You asked who would invest in high street retail. You said it looked negative. You specifically mentioned HMV. I gave you an answer. But as usual when you get an answer you don't like you ask another 20 questions.
Anyhow, it's a benefit to business by keeping more trade on the high street, more choice for the consumer, more competition usually equals better price for the consumer. More people employed in these shops and paying tax equals more money for the Treasury.
High Street companies are not going bankrupt because of Brexit, that's just a lazy remainers excuse. They're struggling because of unfair competition from online shopping and changing consumer habits."
I don't see online shopping as unfair, just a different business model that obviously works better which people prefer enough to have a negative effect on the high streets. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Mike Ashley is looking to invest in HMV isn't he, maybe a takeover of the company.
How is this a benefit to business from Brexit?
More bankrupt companies to buy cheaply out of insolvency?
You asked who would invest in high street retail. You said it looked negative. You specifically mentioned HMV. I gave you an answer. But as usual when you get an answer you don't like you ask another 20 questions.
Anyhow, it's a benefit to business by keeping more trade on the high street, more choice for the consumer, more competition usually equals better price for the consumer. More people employed in these shops and paying tax equals more money for the Treasury.
High Street companies are not going bankrupt because of Brexit, that's just a lazy remainers excuse. They're struggling because of unfair competition from online shopping and changing consumer habits."
The OPs question is what is "how Brexit is going to be good for industry, banking and job creation?"
Have you got an answer for that? If you are going to talk about "red tape" male some effort to specify what. If you are going to talk about "trade deals" then how long until we just replicate those we have with 4 of the G7 and you can define exactly what the "great" one we will get with the USA will be 
The discussion about investment is a side-bar as the poster indicated that he sees no negative at present.
I have never said that Brexit has caused retail to nose-dive, but let me know how Brexit will help though.
Picking through the carcass of a bankrupt company is not "investment", it's opportunism. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"In the long run oit is good as we can do our own deals with the rest of the world and trade with Europe,it has been said a million times do you live with your head in the sand
There are 13 Comments on this thread as I write this can’t see it written a million times.
You’re comment is therefore fake news.
Have a nice day.
Try reading some other threads. The topic has been done to death. "
Actually it has not. The response is much the same as here.
Some vague phrases about "less red tape" and "better" trade deals before changing the subject.
As the OP has pointed out. |
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"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV? "
Still actively investing but don't have to if it's not the right thing to do with my money And the money I invest on behalf of others. And no, I wouldn't invest in Debenhams, nothing to do with Brexit and all to do with it being a crap business with too high fixed costs and unable to compete with online.
Hope that answers your question. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Still actively investing but don't have to if it's not the right thing to do with my money And the money I invest on behalf of others. And no, I wouldn't invest in Debenhams, nothing to do with Brexit and all to do with it being a crap business with too high fixed costs and unable to compete with online.
Hope that answers your question."
The point is that there are downsides, Brexit related or not and there's also a storm coming, so will we be best placed to weather it in the EU or just starting to work out what to do outside everything?
The fund managers that I know always have a hedge.
Bovril and HP sauce? Oh, wait, the second ones made in Holland... |
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"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Still actively investing but don't have to if it's not the right thing to do with my money And the money I invest on behalf of others. And no, I wouldn't invest in Debenhams, nothing to do with Brexit and all to do with it being a crap business with too high fixed costs and unable to compete with online.
Hope that answers your question.
The point is that there are downsides, Brexit related or not and there's also a storm coming, so will we be best placed to weather it in the EU or just starting to work out what to do outside everything?
The fund managers that I know always have a hedge.
Bovril and HP sauce? Oh, wait, the second ones made in Holland..."
We are at the end of what has been a very long up cycle for those owning assets so my guess is we will head into a down cycle end of this year. But nothing stands still and opportunities will still exist whatever happens. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Still actively investing but don't have to if it's not the right thing to do with my money And the money I invest on behalf of others. And no, I wouldn't invest in Debenhams, nothing to do with Brexit and all to do with it being a crap business with too high fixed costs and unable to compete with online.
Hope that answers your question.
The point is that there are downsides, Brexit related or not and there's also a storm coming, so will we be best placed to weather it in the EU or just starting to work out what to do outside everything?
The fund managers that I know always have a hedge.
Bovril and HP sauce? Oh, wait, the second ones made in Holland...
We are at the end of what has been a very long up cycle for those owning assets so my guess is we will head into a down cycle end of this year. But nothing stands still and opportunities will still exist whatever happens. "
Didn't I just wrote that?
It doesn't really answer the question about if Brexit will be good for business.
Obviously there are opportunities to make money as the world burns, but are there any opportunities for normal businesses that make things, supply services, just try and get on? |
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"As an investor in a number of businesses not seeing any negative s at present, hard to plan but we are still investing.
What does that mean?
If you are an investor and that's your job then would you stop investing?
Would you invest in high street retail? Is that not looking a little negative maybe? Debenhams? HMV?
Still actively investing but don't have to if it's not the right thing to do with my money And the money I invest on behalf of others. And no, I wouldn't invest in Debenhams, nothing to do with Brexit and all to do with it being a crap business with too high fixed costs and unable to compete with online.
Hope that answers your question.
The point is that there are downsides, Brexit related or not and there's also a storm coming, so will we be best placed to weather it in the EU or just starting to work out what to do outside everything?
The fund managers that I know always have a hedge.
Bovril and HP sauce? Oh, wait, the second ones made in Holland...
We are at the end of what has been a very long up cycle for those owning assets so my guess is we will head into a down cycle end of this year. But nothing stands still and opportunities will still exist whatever happens.
Didn't I just wrote that?
It doesn't really answer the question about if Brexit will be good for business.
Obviously there are opportunities to make money as the world burns, but are there any opportunities for normal businesses that make things, supply services, just try and get on?"
Honest answer, I have no idea. But if a business has a good product or service to sell my guess would be that they will do ok. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some vague phrases about "less red tape" and "better" trade deals before changing the subject.
As the OP has pointed out."
General businesses don't really have any avenue of improvement down the path of Brexit.
We currently have either trade agreements with Countries or if not then it's trade on WTO.
All that Brexit will probably deliver is less trade deals and more trade on WTO which will cost business more.
The pool of available workers will also be drastically reduced putting further strain on business.
So increasing costs to business & a reduction of availability of workers is Brexits gift to business
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