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over a year ago
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"we voted to leave 3 years back. Mps just voted to drag it out . European elections looming ( also local elections) ITS BECOME A FARCE"
What did you expect? It is playing out exactly as predicted.
This is what people voted for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"isnt hindsight wonderful"
It’s absolutely not. We were told a billion times in the run up to the referendum, that this is an impossible task that would take at least five years to negotiate anything close to something that would work and that could get passed through.
Can’t say the British public were unaware that this would happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"isnt hindsight wonderful
We all knew "remainers" what a clusterfuck it'd be.
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No one has an excuss, we all knew this was the inevitable outcome of voting leave.
It was hammered home a billion times.
People either chose to ignore it (Telegraph and Times readers), didn't care (daily Express and daily mail readers), or actively wanted the chaos (The Russians who sponsored the Brexit ads and pro Brexit bots). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Assholes in the left frustrating a democratic vote. Europe is teetering on the edge of collapse. Everybody knows that and its nothing to do with the UK. Its their own arrogance. UK needs to leave to get back on its own feet and control immigration and get new trade deals round the world. No deal will not be anything like as bad as the fearties keep pedalling. Pathetic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Assholes in the left frustrating a democratic vote. Europe is teetering on the edge of collapse. Everybody knows that and its nothing to do with the UK. Its their own arrogance. UK needs to leave to get back on its own feet and pcontrol immigration and get new trade deals round the world. No deal will not be anything like as bad as the fearties keep pedalling. Pathetic. "
Meanwhile on fantasy island .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Assholes in the left frustrating a democratic vote. Europe is teetering on the edge of collapse. Everybody knows that and its nothing to do with the UK. Its their own arrogance. UK needs to leave to get back on its own feet and control immigration and get new trade deals round the world. No deal will not be anything like as bad as the fearties keep pedalling. Pathetic. "
These visions have no support, you can't present any facts to these visions , the red bus has a bad effect on some people. Pathetic.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"isnt hindsight wonderful
It’s absolutely not. We were told a billion times in the run up to the referendum, that this is an impossible task that would take at least five years to negotiate anything close to something that would work and that could get passed through.
Can’t say the British public were unaware that this would happen. "
so its all the voters fault. thats 100% what you're saying.Are you for real? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"isnt hindsight wonderful
It’s absolutely not. We were told a billion times in the run up to the referendum, that this is an impossible task that would take at least five years to negotiate anything close to something that would work and that could get passed through.
Can’t say the British public were unaware that this would happen.
so its all the voters fault. thats 100% what you're saying.Are you for real?"
Absolutely it's the voters fault. This is exactly what they voted for. 100%.
Why would anyone not think that the people who voted for this bullshit are to blame? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"isnt hindsight wonderful
It’s absolutely not. We were told a billion times in the run up to the referendum, that this is an impossible task that would take at least five years to negotiate anything close to something that would work and that could get passed through.
Can’t say the British public were unaware that this would happen.
so its all the voters fault. thats 100% what you're saying.Are you for real?
Absolutely it's the voters fault. This is exactly what they voted for. 100%.
Why would anyone not think that the people who voted for this bullshit are to blame?"
And with that super intelligent answer I rest my case |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"isnt hindsight wonderful
It’s absolutely not. We were told a billion times in the run up to the referendum, that this is an impossible task that would take at least five years to negotiate anything close to something that would work and that could get passed through.
Can’t say the British public were unaware that this would happen.
so its all the voters fault. thats 100% what you're saying.Are you for real?
Absolutely it's the voters fault. This is exactly what they voted for. 100%.
Why would anyone not think that the people who voted for this bullshit are to blame?
And with that super intelligent answer I rest my case"
Seriously though. The people who voted for Brexit, why are they not at fault for brexit?
They were told a billion times that it will be a no-win cluster fuck, and that there is no positive outcome for the UK. When the likes if Liam Fox said it should be the easiest thing to negotiate in all of human history, it was all debunked the same day with facts about how hard this will be.
There is no excuse for anyone to be ignorant about this. All the information was there the whole time.
No one can claim to be surprised at the current situation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples ."
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"talk about missing an opportunity... the Green Party should be knocking on every door now"
I would of thought its a missed opportunity for the kippers .They are the brex party.Where are they?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"talk about missing an opportunity... the Green Party should be knocking on every door now
I would of thought its a missed opportunity for the kippers .They are the brex party.Where are they?? "
ye same thing .youd have thought a golden opportunity exists for them to get into power |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"talk about missing an opportunity... the Green Party should be knocking on every door now
I would of thought its a missed opportunity for the kippers .They are the brex party.Where are they??
ye same thing .youd have thought a golden opportunity exists for them to get into power"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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or any third party actually, While people are playing the blame game ..it is what it is ,yet they won't move on ..just blame each other..just watch BBC parliament. |
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit."
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth.. "
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth..
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above"
I suppose the only voters who aren't to blame are remainers because they didn't vote for this.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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what happens if there is a second referendum and a vote to leave was even stronger, what then. Another 5 years blame game ? The British Public are very stubborn that's why we only have two parties. Any second referendum should be on how we leave Europe not if , that's if this country is still a democratic one |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth..
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above
I suppose the only voters who aren't to blame are remainers because they didn't vote for this. "
neither did the Leavers they voted to leave not leave under certain conditions there were no billion warnings thats just Media hype after the event, if there were Nigel Farage didn't hear them cos he resigned thinking his job was doing in 2016 |
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"what happens if there is a second referendum and a vote to leave was even stronger, what then. Another 5 years blame game ? The British Public are very stubborn that's why we only have two parties. Any second referendum should be on how we leave Europe not if , that's if this country is still a democratic one"
The only reason we are discussing "blame" in reference to leave voters is because it's part of the discussion. Sure the PM and Tory party aren't handling this especially well. But the referendum put them into this lose/lose situation.
Sure you can apportion some of the blame to those who orchestrated the whole thing. But voters had access to the information that pointed directly to this current situation, and decided, for whatever reason, to dismiss it and vote leave anyway.
To answer your hypothetical question. If vote leave win in another referendum. Then we just have more of this. All flavours of leave are shit, and would be a pointless exercise to ask people how shit they want it to be. |
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over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth..
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above
I suppose the only voters who aren't to blame are remainers because they didn't vote for this.
neither did the Leavers they voted to leave not leave under certain conditions there were no billion warnings thats just Media hype after the event, if there were Nigel Farage didn't hear them cos he resigned thinking his job was doing in 2016"
by the way I am not sticking up for the Leavers as I didn't vote at all. I went with the old adage if voting ever changed anything it would be outlawed |
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We have had nearly 3 years of Tories kicking the brexit hot potato down the road and 5 days after the red white and blue brexit day the maybot asks for political consensus and cross party cooperation.
What a joke! |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth..
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above
I suppose the only voters who aren't to blame are remainers because they didn't vote for this.
neither did the Leavers they voted to leave not leave under certain conditions there were no billion warnings thats just Media hype after the event, if there were Nigel Farage didn't hear them cos he resigned thinking his job was doing in 2016"
They voted to leave with a deal. Simple as. Now the people that promised them that they would be getting a deal are now turning around and trying to convince them that they voted to leave with no deal. And again they are believing them.
Millions of pounds being spent on Facebook adverts is working. They are being funded by dark money groups to convince people that no deal is what they now want. And they are believing it. Day after day we are having politicians say that ‘the people now want no Brexit’ despite no proof of this and everything pointing towards to opposite.
You now have the ludicrous case of the tabloids telling people that they knew what they voted for, and yet telling them they voted for the opposite of what they told them they were voting for before.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth..
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above
I suppose the only voters who aren't to blame are remainers because they didn't vote for this.
neither did the Leavers they voted to leave not leave under certain conditions there were no billion warnings thats just Media hype after the event, if there were Nigel Farage didn't hear them cos he resigned thinking his job was doing in 2016
They voted to leave with a deal. Simple as. Now the people that promised them that they would be getting a deal are now turning around and trying to convince them that they voted to leave with no deal. And again they are believing them.
Millions of pounds being spent on Facebook adverts is working. They are being funded by dark money groups to convince people that no deal is what they now want. And they are believing it. Day after day we are having politicians say that ‘the people now want no Brexit’ despite no proof of this and everything pointing towards to opposite.
You now have the ludicrous case of the tabloids telling people that they knew what they voted for, and yet telling them they voted for the opposite of what they told them they were voting for before.
-Matt"
*”the people now want NO DEAL brexit” that should have read.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Assholes in the left frustrating a democratic vote. Europe is teetering on the edge of collapse. Everybody knows that and its nothing to do with the UK. Its their own arrogance. UK needs to leave to get back on its own feet and control immigration and get new trade deals round the world. No deal will not be anything like as bad as the fearties keep pedalling. Pathetic. "
Handled correctly we will be better off with no deal.
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What people tend to forget is that this is only the transition deal.....that is to say, the deal that allows us tp leave ad isin place until we negotiate a permanent deal.
I think our politicians tend to forget this. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths  |
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see. "
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc.. |
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc.. "
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc..
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there."
platform that promotes bigotry lol dunno who they have on in the evenings but from 10.00 a.m till bout 5 30 whenn i finish work its a pro remain station lol and someone said james o.brien is good.nope he only lets peeps who agree with him talk.everyone else he shouts down.and londoncentric nah dont think so.id leave the floodgates open and let the thames reclaim the shithole |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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anyway end game is coming either we leave or remain all i know is one side or the other is gona have a shitfit.me personaly my life wont change one way or the other.u cant have anyless than fuck all.my hinest opinion is they have wasted 3 yrs as they were never gona leave anyway.they were hopin the public would change there minds now its obvious there not.m.ps are gona have to earn there money and make unpopular choices |
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc..
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there.
platform that promotes bigotry lol dunno who they have on in the evenings but from 10.00 a.m till bout 5 30 whenn i finish work its a pro remain station lol and someone said james o.brien is good.nope he only lets peeps who agree with him talk.everyone else he shouts down.and londoncentric nah dont think so.id leave the floodgates open and let the thames reclaim the shithole"
Nick Ferrari
Nigel Farage
Katie Hopkins
Etc
I don't care if anyone else listens to and supports the station. I choose not to. |
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"anyway end game is coming either we leave or remain all i know is one side or the other is gona have a shitfit.me personaly my life wont change one way or the other.u cant have anyless than fuck all.my hinest opinion is they have wasted 3 yrs as they were never gona leave anyway.they were hopin the public would change there minds now its obvious there not.m.ps are gona have to earn there money and make unpopular choices"
They won't know if the public has changed its mind over brexit until they give them a second referendum.I think it's been 3 years well spent watching brexiters slowly loose their hard brexit.Its been delightful to watch... |
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc..
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there.
platform that promotes bigotry lol dunno who they have on in the evenings but from 10.00 a.m till bout 5 30 whenn i finish work its a pro remain station lol and someone said james o.brien is good.nope he only lets peeps who agree with him talk.everyone else he shouts down.and londoncentric nah dont think so.id leave the floodgates open and let the thames reclaim the shithole
Nick Ferrari
Nigel Farage
Katie Hopkins
Etc
I don't care if anyone else listens to and supports the station. I choose not to."
Sounds like an Alt reich circle jerk with those guys on .Is it just s talk radio ? or do they play music.The closest I get to talk radio is Jeremy vine on R2.Mostly I just listen to music at work. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc..
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there.
platform that promotes bigotry lol dunno who they have on in the evenings but from 10.00 a.m till bout 5 30 whenn i finish work its a pro remain station lol and someone said james o.brien is good.nope he only lets peeps who agree with him talk.everyone else he shouts down.and londoncentric nah dont think so.id leave the floodgates open and let the thames reclaim the shithole
Nick Ferrari
Nigel Farage
Katie Hopkins
Etc
I don't care if anyone else listens to and supports the station. I choose not to.
Sounds like an Alt reich circle jerk with those guys on .Is it just s talk radio ? or do they play music.The closest I get to talk radio is Jeremy vine on R2.Mostly I just listen to music at work."
I've listened to James O'Brian a few times... I do think he is pretty good in that he quite simply and honestly pulls people up who are spouting bollocks when they call in. But even I can't listen to it on a regular basis as it is just the same thing over and over again. Some halfwit brexiteer calls up and regurgitates some incorrect crap they have been told to think from the Daily Mail or The Sun, or their mate in the pub. And James points out they are wrong and tells them quite simply why. It is great, but you can only listen to so much of it without wanting to go jump off a tall building in despair at our country.
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"the leavers blame the polititians.
the remoaners blame the voters.
simples .
Honest question. Why aren't the people who voted for this, to blame? They believed the ridiculous rhetoric from the people who orchestrated Brexit.
Some simply won't accept they were sold a pup, sucked in by the slimiest operators who promised the earth..
apparently the slimy operators cannot be held responsible it's all the voters fault see above"
Caveat Emptor as Jacob Rees Mogg would say...  |
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"Assholes in the left frustrating a democratic vote. Europe is teetering on the edge of collapse. Everybody knows that and its nothing to do with the UK. Its their own arrogance. UK needs to leave to get back on its own feet and control immigration and get new trade deals round the world. No deal will not be anything like as bad as the fearties keep pedalling. Pathetic. Handled correctly we will be better off with no deal."
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc..
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there.
platform that promotes bigotry lol dunno who they have on in the evenings but from 10.00 a.m till bout 5 30 whenn i finish work its a pro remain station lol and someone said james o.brien is good.nope he only lets peeps who agree with him talk.everyone else he shouts down.and londoncentric nah dont think so.id leave the floodgates open and let the thames reclaim the shithole
Nick Ferrari
Nigel Farage
Katie Hopkins
Etc
I don't care if anyone else listens to and supports the station. I choose not to.
Sounds like an Alt reich circle jerk with those guys on .Is it just s talk radio ? or do they play music.The closest I get to talk radio is Jeremy vine on R2.Mostly I just listen to music at work."
Try listening for yourself. It's available on Freeview channel 732.
I've listened to it a couple of times but generally don't like it. I find it's far to much opinion and pointless argument without much real substance.
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"dont peeps have there own opinions? i have just pretty much read word for word what james o brien was saying on lbc this morning.come on people think for yourselves dont let others put words in your mouths
I can In all honesty say I have never listen to lbc.
Your very London centric fella.Maybe you're seeing what you want to see.
Even when we lived down south I didn't listen to lbc..
I know James Obrien fella is supposed to be good. But I personally choose not to support a media outlet that platforms and promotes bigotry.
I also never listen to LBC, and I have no idea what he said on there.
platform that promotes bigotry lol dunno who they have on in the evenings but from 10.00 a.m till bout 5 30 whenn i finish work its a pro remain station lol and someone said james o.brien is good.nope he only lets peeps who agree with him talk.everyone else he shouts down.and londoncentric nah dont think so.id leave the floodgates open and let the thames reclaim the shithole
Nick Ferrari
Nigel Farage
Katie Hopkins
Etc
I don't care if anyone else listens to and supports the station. I choose not to.
Sounds like an Alt reich circle jerk with those guys on .Is it just s talk radio ? or do they play music.The closest I get to talk radio is Jeremy vine on R2.Mostly I just listen to music at work.
I've listened to James O'Brian a few times... I do think he is pretty good in that he quite simply and honestly pulls people up who are spouting bollocks when they call in. But even I can't listen to it on a regular basis as it is just the same thing over and over again. Some halfwit brexiteer calls up and regurgitates some incorrect crap they have been told to think from the Daily Mail or The Sun, or their mate in the pub. And James points out they are wrong and tells them quite simply why. It is great, but you can only listen to so much of it without wanting to go jump off a tall building in despair at our country.
-Matt"
This too.
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"we voted to leave 3 years back. Mps just voted to drag it out . European elections looming ( also local elections) ITS BECOME A FARCE"
Having the referendum in the first place was a farce, the leave side never had any plan for after leaving and the remain side did not believe it would be voted leave 
Cameroon is to blame 100% fucking plumb who legged it hours after he dropped the uk in the shite!! And is making a nice living giving elsewhere |
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By *bernathCouple
over a year ago
Gloucestershire |
"we voted to leave 3 years back. Mps just voted to drag it out . European elections looming ( also local elections) ITS BECOME A FARCE"
When has a government ever done anything on time?
All their projects are years over and overbudget.
Patience. |
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Or another way of looking at it as we have the Grand National coming up...
"Britex grand national tomoz ....if you lose and don't like the result....moan and moan and try to get a 're run"
& if your horse (or jockey) were doped (duped) would you expect the result to be annulled and 2nd place given victory?
& in all probability the trainer gets fined and barred - wouldn’t that be nice |
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Op may call it a farce but a country could not simply state one day that it was leaving and then no longer be a member of the EU from that point. Apart from the contractual obligations, there are many elements of life as you know it, that need to be de-coupled from the EU. Many decades of membership resulted in vast changes to legislation as well as shared endeavours with other EU countries and bodies. Everything from policing, transport including aviation, UK and EU citizens' rights, radioactive materials licenses and transportation (such as for hospital treatment) and many other complicated parts of UK membership, have to be collectively sorted and completed.
There were fantasies and lies that were told by the remain camp, including during their illegal activities in the referendum. If people remain ignorant of some of this, almost 3 years later, it highlights the issues with giving citizens matters of such complexity and importance, to vote upon.
It is right that citizens' represenatives in parliament seek to agree the correct approaches to resolve the many issues and a cliff edge jump isn't really going to be one of them. As the factual details of any departure agreement may be very different to what many thought they were voting for, it's reasonable to assume that citizens should be consulted again, once these are known. In any event,parliament must enact new legislation,in order for any departure to be fulfilled: the mere act of voting doesn't magically create these. |
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