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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . |
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . "
Maybe they could employ all the car workers from Honda with all their success... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . "
And in the detail... Metro and mailonline offsets 5% decline in DM and MoS print titles.
Circulation is down 2%.
Warning that favourable advertising conditions (which drive revenue growth) not expected to continue.
Almost two thirds of profit are from outside of consumer media. |
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers .
And in the detail... Metro and mailonline offsets 5% decline in DM and MoS print titles.
Circulation is down 2%.
Warning that favourable advertising conditions (which drive revenue growth) not expected to continue.
Almost two thirds of profit are from outside of consumer media. "
Oh no..
Do you mean Pat hasn't done his research properly before this thread..
Oh dear..
Bad form Pat.. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Are you also pleased that, by virtue of being registered offshore, the owners do not pay corporation tax in the UK, yet preach to us about how our taxes should or should not be spent?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are you also pleased that, by virtue of being registered offshore, the owners do not pay corporation tax in the UK, yet preach to us about how our taxes should or should not be spent?
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The trouble is Pat wouldnt know a c*nt if he saw one  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
.
Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers .
And in the detail... Metro and mailonline offsets 5% decline in DM and MoS print titles.
Circulation is down 2%.
Warning that favourable advertising conditions (which drive revenue growth) not expected to continue.
Almost two thirds of profit are from outside of consumer media. "
Hi. Circulation may be down but as a percentage of the market it has risen according to the reports which I read. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Are you also pleased that, by virtue of being registered offshore, the owners do not pay corporation tax in the UK, yet preach to us about how our taxes should or should not be spent?
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However it is people , not companies who use the health service and education .
Registering a company off shore is legal and in any event money transferred back to the UK would be taxed on a remmittance basis. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
.
Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers .
And in the detail... Metro and mailonline offsets 5% decline in DM and MoS print titles.
Circulation is down 2%.
Warning that favourable advertising conditions (which drive revenue growth) not expected to continue.
Almost two thirds of profit are from outside of consumer media. Hi. Circulation may be down but as a percentage of the market it has risen according to the reports which I read. "
That is true. It seems to be falling at a lower rate than the average paper. Suppose in its own way that's a success. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are you also pleased that, by virtue of being registered offshore, the owners do not pay corporation tax in the UK, yet preach to us about how our taxes should or should not be spent?
However it is people , not companies who use the health service and education .
Registering a company off shore is legal and in any event money transferred back to the UK would be taxed on a remmittance basis. "
Yet Google , amazon and Cameron get slated for offshoring... |
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"Are you also pleased that, by virtue of being registered offshore, the owners do not pay corporation tax in the UK, yet preach to us about how our taxes should or should not be spent?
However it is people , not companies who use the health service and education .
Registering a company off shore is legal and in any event money transferred back to the UK would be taxed on a remmittance basis. "
Their front page is highlighting the closures of GP surgeries and probably rightly so to do but that they dodge paying their dues means they are part of the problem..
Double standards and hypocrisy springs to mind.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
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However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies . |
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies . "
But the people they employ, have been educated and looked after at the expense of the tax payer.
They are taking advantage of that system without, putting back into it. Exactly the sort of think that paper constantly moans about. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies . "
So corporation tax shouldn't be used for the NHS? Companies benefit from a healthy work force so maybe you could say they do use it... Indirectly. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies . "
You really are embedded in your own echo chamber aren’t you? You may well be a lost cause.
Let’s think a few things through...
1) Daily Mail employs people. All of whom spent the first 18 years or so in life benefitting from state education and healthcare.
2) Daily Mail employs people but it is the employees, not the employer who pays tax. Albeit the employer may pay small NI contributions providing employees are in fact employees and not subcontractors.
3) Some employees get sick, others get pregnant and in time people retire and take advantage of the U.K. state benefits.
What exactly have the Daily Mail owners contributed to the U.K. state if they hide their wealth offshore to avoid paying U.K. taxes? Are they not parasites living off the people who this country has educated and looked after since birth? Why is it OK for the owners of papers like the Mail to raile against cheats and scroungers when they themselves do everything they can to avoid contributing to the well being of this country? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Okay.
So you think a great British business is one that takes shedloads of cash from British consumers, moves it all to Bermuda and makes no contribution whatsoever to things like defence of the realm, leaving the rest of us to pick up a bigger share of the tab.
Do you hold other extreme views, or is that the only one? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well that didn't go as well as planned."
Some people don't have the common sense to understand when things they say don't go as planned 
At least it's mildly entertaining |
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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My hasn't she grown!/All grown up now!/Look at the tits on this 16yr old! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies .
You really are embedded in your own echo chamber aren’t you? You may well be a lost cause.
Let’s think a few things through...
1) Daily Mail employs people. All of whom spent the first 18 years or so in life benefitting from state education and healthcare.
2) Daily Mail employs people but it is the employees, not the employer who pays tax. Albeit the employer may pay small NI contributions providing employees are in fact employees and not subcontractors.
3) Some employees get sick, others get pregnant and in time people retire and take advantage of the U.K. state benefits.
What exactly have the Daily Mail owners contributed to the U.K. state if they hide their wealth offshore to avoid paying U.K. taxes? Are they not parasites living off the people who this country has educated and looked after since birth? Why is it OK for the owners of papers like the Mail to raile against cheats and scroungers when they themselves do everything they can to avoid contributing to the well being of this country?"
As far as I am aware all of the Daily Mail employees are paying both tax and NI contributions which contribute towards the services that they use .
If you really wanted to assess the impact you could look up the staff costs in their accounts and work out the contributions paid in tax .
It is perfectly legitimate to have your holding company abroad . I would guess that the Daily Mail also pay a substantial amount in rent and rates. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies .
You really are embedded in your own echo chamber aren’t you? You may well be a lost cause.
Let’s think a few things through...
1) Daily Mail employs people. All of whom spent the first 18 years or so in life benefitting from state education and healthcare.
2) Daily Mail employs people but it is the employees, not the employer who pays tax. Albeit the employer may pay small NI contributions providing employees are in fact employees and not subcontractors.
3) Some employees get sick, others get pregnant and in time people retire and take advantage of the U.K. state benefits.
What exactly have the Daily Mail owners contributed to the U.K. state if they hide their wealth offshore to avoid paying U.K. taxes? Are they not parasites living off the people who this country has educated and looked after since birth? Why is it OK for the owners of papers like the Mail to raile against cheats and scroungers when they themselves do everything they can to avoid contributing to the well being of this country?"
Hi. Unless you have trawled through the accounts of DGMT I did you think you would know how much or little tax they pay.
Any dividends remitted to the UK will be taxes at source so you can hardly claim that they pay no tax . The next dividend payment is due shortly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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My hasn't she grown!/All grown up now!/Look at the tits on this 16yr old! "
Eh? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
.
Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers .
And in the detail... Metro and mailonline offsets 5% decline in DM and MoS print titles.
Circulation is down 2%.
Warning that favourable advertising conditions (which drive revenue growth) not expected to continue.
Almost two thirds of profit are from outside of consumer media. Hi. Circulation may be down but as a percentage of the market it has risen according to the reports which I read. "
Reports in the DM? It's almost like they enjoy sucking their own cock. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Okay.
So you think a great British business is one that takes shedloads of cash from British consumers, moves it all to Bermuda and makes no contribution whatsoever to things like defence of the realm, leaving the rest of us to pick up a bigger share of the tab.
Do you hold other extreme views, or is that the only one?"
It would be interesting to know how you concluded that DGMT pat no corporation tax.
In 2017 the charge was £29 million and 2018 £33 million .
It shows how dangerous it is to rely on information from some of the posters on here.
Maybe check the accounts for yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies .
You really are embedded in your own echo chamber aren’t you? You may well be a lost cause.
Let’s think a few things through...
1) Daily Mail employs people. All of whom spent the first 18 years or so in life benefitting from state education and healthcare.
2) Daily Mail employs people but it is the employees, not the employer who pays tax. Albeit the employer may pay small NI contributions providing employees are in fact employees and not subcontractors.
3) Some employees get sick, others get pregnant and in time people retire and take advantage of the U.K. state benefits.
What exactly have the Daily Mail owners contributed to the U.K. state if they hide their wealth offshore to avoid paying U.K. taxes? Are they not parasites living off the people who this country has educated and looked after since birth? Why is it OK for the owners of papers like the Mail to raile against cheats and scroungers when they themselves do everything they can to avoid contributing to the well being of this country?"
The tax charge is clearly discloses in the DGMT accounts . It looks like £ 52 million over the past two years. Have a look at the accounts to verify it for yourself. It looks like they have paid more than their fair share of taxes. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Follow the money.
The DMGT is controlled by Rothermere Continuation Ltd.
it holds all the voting shares.
Registered in Bermuda and controlled from Jersey.
Let's have a look at the paper, then.
If, let's say, the largest selling newspaper in the British Asian community was controlled from a tax shell in Saudia Arabia and accused by British police of being partly responsible for radicalising terrorists, what might your reaction be?
Demand its immediate closure, perhaps?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
However the Daily Mail employee will have already paid various taxes just like any other employee. It is people who use health services, not companies .
You really are embedded in your own echo chamber aren’t you? You may well be a lost cause.
Let’s think a few things through...
1) Daily Mail employs people. All of whom spent the first 18 years or so in life benefitting from state education and healthcare.
2) Daily Mail employs people but it is the employees, not the employer who pays tax. Albeit the employer may pay small NI contributions providing employees are in fact employees and not subcontractors.
3) Some employees get sick, others get pregnant and in time people retire and take advantage of the U.K. state benefits.
What exactly have the Daily Mail owners contributed to the U.K. state if they hide their wealth offshore to avoid paying U.K. taxes? Are they not parasites living off the people who this country has educated and looked after since birth? Why is it OK for the owners of papers like the Mail to raile against cheats and scroungers when they themselves do everything they can to avoid contributing to the well being of this country?"
It looks like you should read the accounts of DGMT trust in a little more detail. You would then realize that the tax charge was £33 million giving an effective rate of 18.2 % .
I am only guessing but have you and the various other posters confused the Corporation tax liablity of DGMT with the personal liability for taxation of the Roschild family .
They are two entirely different issues .
It does however show the dangers of relying on some of the information which various posters post on here . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Did you loose some sort of bet where you had to champion the Daily Mail on an online forum? Can't see any other reason other than being a cunt why anyone who wasn't a cunt would do that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Did you loose some sort of bet where you had to champion the Daily Mail on an online forum? Can't see any other reason other than being a cunt why anyone who wasn't a cunt would do that. "
I feel bad about it but that made me laugh and laugh |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . "
People do sneer at success,yes it is politically biased but all papers are,but overall it is a good newspaper on many other topics. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . People do sneer at success,yes it is politically biased but all papers are,but overall it is a good newspaper on many other topics."
People do sneer at remoaners too.... and the daily mail is a comic for neo-nazis.... just saying |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . "
I personally wouldn't sneer at anyone or anything...I would however say that if the Daily Mail printed that Monday was the day after Sunday I would immediately go out and buy a calendar to check that they hadn't changed the order of the days of the week without me noticing.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wikipedia have come to a consensus that the Daily Mail is ‘generally unreliable and its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist
The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”
As far as I see it the Daily Mail is just one step up in quality from the Sunday Sport type trash. |
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . "
Are you on their payroll? If you're not, I can't see any reason to celebrate the success of a poisonous rag with the journalistic standards of the Beano. I admit I sometimes dip into their online site and what strikes me, other than the huge amounts of pap about people I've never heard of, or tv shows I'd never watch, is the utterly abysmal standard of the writing. It's almost as if most of the journalists struggled to get GCSE English |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wikipedia have come to a consensus that the Daily Mail is ‘generally unreliable and its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist
The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”
As far as I see it the Daily Mail is just one step up in quality from the Sunday Sport type trash. "
There is however a difference between Wilkipedia and the Daily Mail.
The Daily Mail is governed by the various press council regulatory bodies whereas there is no control over what can be published on Wilkipedia .
The Daily Mail even tested this theory. They sent in a made up account of a journalists life as a joke and Wilkipedis simply published it as fact .
In the circumstances Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers .
Are you on their payroll? If you're not, I can't see any reason to celebrate the success of a poisonous rag with the journalistic standards of the Beano. I admit I sometimes dip into their online site and what strikes me, other than the huge amounts of pap about people I've never heard of, or tv shows I'd never watch, is the utterly abysmal standard of the writing. It's almost as if most of the journalists struggled to get GCSE English"
This is hardly the post of a tolerant and open minded individual. If you do not read or bug the newspaper concerned it is difficult to see how you are in a position to pass judgement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wikipedia have come to a consensus that the Daily Mail is ‘generally unreliable and its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist
The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”
As far as I see it the Daily Mail is just one step up in quality from the Sunday Sport type trash. There is however a difference between Wilkipedia and the Daily Mail.
The Daily Mail is governed by the various press council regulatory bodies whereas there is no control over what can be published on Wilkipedia .
The Daily Mail even tested this theory. They sent in a made up account of a journalists life as a joke and Wilkipedis simply published it as fact .
In the circumstances Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source. "
Isolated occurance |
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Just a thought.
Newspapers are an "old" method of spreading news. The demographic of newspaper readers tends to be the older generation....although not exclusively.
Therefore the paper that panders to this demographic would tend to hold up it's readership more than those of the newer "trendy" papers who are more likely to lose out to other news outlets.
Add the increasing price of advertising and the revenue will outstrip other papers.
When this generation of oldies shuffles off then the DM will plummet unless the financial infrastructure moves with the times. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Wikipedia have come to a consensus that the Daily Mail is ‘generally unreliable and its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist
The editors described the arguments for a ban as “centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism and flat-out fabrication”
As far as I see it the Daily Mail is just one step up in quality from the Sunday Sport type trash. There is however a difference between Wilkipedia and the Daily Mail.
The Daily Mail is governed by the various press council regulatory bodies whereas there is no control over what can be published on Wilkipedia .
The Daily Mail even tested this theory. They sent in a made up account of a journalists life as a joke and Wilkipedis simply published it as fact .
In the circumstances Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source.
Isolated occurance "
It would depend if there are any controls on the upload process for information recorded on Wilkipedia.
We have already seen on this thread most posters blinding accepting that DGMT pay no tax ( which would appear to be incorrect information by the first poster to publish mention this) and everyone else simply assumed that his post was true.
The taxation charge is clearly disclosed in DGMT statutory accounts . |
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . People do sneer at success,yes it is politically biased but all papers are,but overall it is a good newspaper on many other topics."
What's your personal view on its stance on lgbt, tolerance and inclusion etc? |
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
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That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
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Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy  |
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers .
Are you on their payroll? If you're not, I can't see any reason to celebrate the success of a poisonous rag with the journalistic standards of the Beano. I admit I sometimes dip into their online site and what strikes me, other than the huge amounts of pap about people I've never heard of, or tv shows I'd never watch, is the utterly abysmal standard of the writing. It's almost as if most of the journalists struggled to get GCSE English"
Oi! Please don't compare the Daily Fail to the Beano! The fail is trash that spreads lies and hatred and i frankly wouldn't even wipe my arse with. The Beano has high qualities of writing, iconic characters, stylish and sometimes award winning artwork, and has given enjoyment to generations of children. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. |
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy "
The gentleman's point is that he wants public money spent in a responsible manner.
The Daily Mail has a sizeable payroll and these employees will be paying substantial amounts in tax already. |
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy The gentleman's point is that he wants public money spent in a responsible manner.
The Daily Mail has a sizeable payroll and these employees will be paying substantial amounts in tax already. "
What always gets me about posts like this is that there is a load of guff spouted about money being pissed up the wall which if you keep even half a weather eye on what is happening to social care is patently untrue. This government has wasted huge amounts of public money on the disaster area that is brexit while taking more and more money away from local government and pretending that there is no problem. If you want an example you could watch the recent two part panorama which showed exactly how a tory led council has cut everything to the absolute bone and beyond for no other reason than an ineffective and brutal austerity programme. The DM likes to chip away at anything that is run by the state because somehow it believes in a failed mantra that privatisation will bring about more efficient business and make people more responsible for themselves. Its a shouty rag that has its head poked so far up its imperious arse that it has lost all common decency. You are being fed lies and you lap it up without displaying any sense of humanity or irony. Very very strange behaviour indeed!  |
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy The gentleman's point is that he wants public money spent in a responsible manner.
The Daily Mail has a sizeable payroll and these employees will be paying substantial amounts in tax already.
What always gets me about posts like this is that there is a load of guff spouted about money being pissed up the wall which if you keep even half a weather eye on what is happening to social care is patently untrue. This government has wasted huge amounts of public money on the disaster area that is brexit while taking more and more money away from local government and pretending that there is no problem. If you want an example you could watch the recent two part panorama which showed exactly how a tory led council has cut everything to the absolute bone and beyond for no other reason than an ineffective and brutal austerity programme. The DM likes to chip away at anything that is run by the state because somehow it believes in a failed mantra that privatisation will bring about more efficient business and make people more responsible for themselves. Its a shouty rag that has its head poked so far up its imperious arse that it has lost all common decency. You are being fed lies and you lap it up without displaying any sense of humanity or irony. Very very strange behaviour indeed! "
You've confirmed my statement.
Because it's frequently pissed up the wall, ie wasted by in short an inability to manage it properly, then the knee jerk reaction is to cut services to the bone, blame the government and demand more money
A vicious circle, those that can walk away from this nonsensical system.
Why have a local council? Get shut of all the town halls and hangers on. Manage the whole system centrally..
Just a thought
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy The gentleman's point is that he wants public money spent in a responsible manner.
The Daily Mail has a sizeable payroll and these employees will be paying substantial amounts in tax already.
What always gets me about posts like this is that there is a load of guff spouted about money being pissed up the wall which if you keep even half a weather eye on what is happening to social care is patently untrue. This government has wasted huge amounts of public money on the disaster area that is brexit while taking more and more money away from local government and pretending that there is no problem. If you want an example you could watch the recent two part panorama which showed exactly how a tory led council has cut everything to the absolute bone and beyond for no other reason than an ineffective and brutal austerity programme. The DM likes to chip away at anything that is run by the state because somehow it believes in a failed mantra that privatisation will bring about more efficient business and make people more responsible for themselves. Its a shouty rag that has its head poked so far up its imperious arse that it has lost all common decency. You are being fed lies and you lap it up without displaying any sense of humanity or irony. Very very strange behaviour indeed! "
I think you will find that the Daily Mail has attempted to address and discuss the care of the elderly. It is probably one of the biggest issues which we face in future and there is no easy resolution.
Teressa May attempted to address the issue and had to withdraw her plans as they were not popular with the public.
The trickey bit is treating people fairly. People will have planned for their old age and taken steps to ensure that they are not a burden on the state, yet others just the government to pick up the tab.
Other people will not have sufficient earnings during their lifetime to save for an old age.
If the Daily Mail did not report accurately people would refuse to buy it and in addition it would be subject to action from the various press regulatory organisations.
It looks like a number of posters on here need to assess the accuracy of their source information.
One poster stated that the paper pats no tax and others blindingly accepted his post as being true. The tax charge as per DGMT published accounts is circa £30 million per annum.
I guess some posters have no interest in accurate information. As long as a post is derogatory to the newspaper they could not care whether it is true or false.
What is also surprising on these forums is the number of people who do not read it , yet make comments without any obvious knowledge of its contents . |
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy The gentleman's point is that he wants public money spent in a responsible manner.
The Daily Mail has a sizeable payroll and these employees will be paying substantial amounts in tax already.
What always gets me about posts like this is that there is a load of guff spouted about money being pissed up the wall which if you keep even half a weather eye on what is happening to social care is patently untrue. This government has wasted huge amounts of public money on the disaster area that is brexit while taking more and more money away from local government and pretending that there is no problem. If you want an example you could watch the recent two part panorama which showed exactly how a tory led council has cut everything to the absolute bone and beyond for no other reason than an ineffective and brutal austerity programme. The DM likes to chip away at anything that is run by the state because somehow it believes in a failed mantra that privatisation will bring about more efficient business and make people more responsible for themselves. Its a shouty rag that has its head poked so far up its imperious arse that it has lost all common decency. You are being fed lies and you lap it up without displaying any sense of humanity or irony. Very very strange behaviour indeed! I think you will find that the Daily Mail has attempted to address and discuss the care of the elderly. It is probably one of the biggest issues which we face in future and there is no easy resolution.
Teressa May attempted to address the issue and had to withdraw her plans as they were not popular with the public.
The trickey bit is treating people fairly. People will have planned for their old age and taken steps to ensure that they are not a burden on the state, yet others just the government to pick up the tab.
Other people will not have sufficient earnings during their lifetime to save for an old age.
If the Daily Mail did not report accurately people would refuse to buy it and in addition it would be subject to action from the various press regulatory organisations.
It looks like a number of posters on here need to assess the accuracy of their source information.
One poster stated that the paper pats no tax and others blindingly accepted his post as being true. The tax charge as per DGMT published accounts is circa £30 million per annum.
I guess some posters have no interest in accurate information. As long as a post is derogatory to the newspaper they could not care whether it is true or false.
What is also surprising on these forums is the number of people who do not read it , yet make comments without any obvious knowledge of its contents ."
I find your comments in this forum generally pretty asinine and the constant adoration you profess for the establishment suggests you are either trolling or have serious daddy issues |
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"Presumably, therefore, if there is a medical emergency at the offices of the Daily Mail, the proprietors insist on calling a private ambulance and picking up the bill, rather than the NHS, since they refuse to contribute to public services?
That's covered in the national insurance contributions of the employee and from the employer contribution to each employee
There's far too much tax and large portions of what is stolen from us, oh I mean raised, is in general pissed agianst a wall in a lot of cases.
Increase and invent more taxes and those that can will just leave the UK or move money abroad.
Survival of the fittest and governments can't understand that so invent new taxes to keep the revenue pouring in
Well that’s a thoroughly depressing view of humankind. Still, as long as you are happy The gentleman's point is that he wants public money spent in a responsible manner.
The Daily Mail has a sizeable payroll and these employees will be paying substantial amounts in tax already.
What always gets me about posts like this is that there is a load of guff spouted about money being pissed up the wall which if you keep even half a weather eye on what is happening to social care is patently untrue. This government has wasted huge amounts of public money on the disaster area that is brexit while taking more and more money away from local government and pretending that there is no problem. If you want an example you could watch the recent two part panorama which showed exactly how a tory led council has cut everything to the absolute bone and beyond for no other reason than an ineffective and brutal austerity programme. The DM likes to chip away at anything that is run by the state because somehow it believes in a failed mantra that privatisation will bring about more efficient business and make people more responsible for themselves. Its a shouty rag that has its head poked so far up its imperious arse that it has lost all common decency. You are being fed lies and you lap it up without displaying any sense of humanity or irony. Very very strange behaviour indeed! I think you will find that the Daily Mail has attempted to address and discuss the care of the elderly. It is probably one of the biggest issues which we face in future and there is no easy resolution.
Teressa May attempted to address the issue and had to withdraw her plans as they were not popular with the public.
The trickey bit is treating people fairly. People will have planned for their old age and taken steps to ensure that they are not a burden on the state, yet others just the government to pick up the tab.
Other people will not have sufficient earnings during their lifetime to save for an old age.
If the Daily Mail did not report accurately people would refuse to buy it and in addition it would be subject to action from the various press regulatory organisations.
It looks like a number of posters on here need to assess the accuracy of their source information.
One poster stated that the paper pats no tax and others blindingly accepted his post as being true. The tax charge as per DGMT published accounts is circa £30 million per annum.
I guess some posters have no interest in accurate information. As long as a post is derogatory to the newspaper they could not care whether it is true or false.
What is also surprising on these forums is the number of people who do not read it , yet make comments without any obvious knowledge of its contents ."
Accuracy and sales aren't correlated. Quality of journalism and sales aren't correlated. I'm not sure why you think they are. Does the DM see a drop each time they have to publish an apology.
The trouble with the tax is if it is true their holding company is offshore then you have to wonder why. My guess is it helps shelter the distribution of profits from tax.
And just for the record I looked at the analyst presentation... Tis how I found all the information around where the profits arose and saw it had little to do with the DM itself and what was there had a warning that it may not continue at the same level. But that original discussion has long since been lost!! |
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By *imiUKMan
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I find your comments in this forum generally pretty asinine and the constant adoration you profess for the establishment suggests you are either trolling or have serious daddy issues "
See my earlier post.
It's like an actual Alan Partridge.
The posts are pure comedy, whether he means them or not. I'm surprised people actually bother engaging with them. |
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"Reeadind a lot of the rtubbish here,the fact is it is a very popular paper all over the world in fact."
And it’s also a fact that there are a lot of lazy bigoted fuckwits in the world who enjoy reading it! |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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Newspapers are an "old" method of spreading news. The demographic of newspaper readers tends to be the older generation....although not exclusively.
Therefore the paper that panders to this demographic would tend to hold up it's readership more than those of the newer "trendy" papers who are more likely to lose out to other news outlets.
Add the increasing price of advertising and the revenue will outstrip other papers.
When this generation of oldies shuffles off then the DM will plummet unless the financial infrastructure moves with the times."
Interesting point.
From Intermedia's demographic survey:
"The Daily Mail and The Telegraph have the largest percentages of over 65s, making up almost half of their audiences – at 45 and 46 percent respectively."
"The Daily Mail and The Telegraph fairly predictably have the lowest percentage of millennial audience make-up, at just 14 and 15 percent respectively. That’s to be expected given the number of older readers they attract and the sort of content those papers produce."
It's dying, just like the Conservative party. They are symbiotic. |
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By *asyukMan
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"It is great to see that despite intense competition from the internet shares in the parent company of the Daily Mail rose 10 % after the company reported a 19 % increase in first half profits
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Earnings climbed to £100 million and revenue rose to £724 million.
Advertising revenue beat analysts expectations .
Well done to all the readers who continue to support this newspaper and to its award winning journalists .
A fee people snearing at this newspaper is irrelevant compared to the number of readers / viwers . "
It's not particularly great to see.
It's a bit of a shame really |
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