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By *ab_Sparkles OP   Woman  over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. "

More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

Bored now of it all.

When do we actually find out who gets the job?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry"

Maybe worry about those in power, you know the ones who can actually do something. This fuck up has nothing to do with the Labour Party.

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline. "

I know. Every time you think it is as crazy as it gets... something else comes up.

We now have the current favourite Boris still going on about the NI border being able to be sorted out during an 'implementation period' after we leave.... despite knowing full well (I hope!) that unless there is a deal on leaving, there is no 'implementation period'.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ahhh yes, we'll just sort everything out during the implementation period of a no deal Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline.

I know. Every time you think it is as crazy as it gets... something else comes up.

We now have the current favourite Boris still going on about the NI border being able to be sorted out during an 'implementation period' after we leave.... despite knowing full well (I hope!) that unless there is a deal on leaving, there is no 'implementation period'.

-Matt"

Anyone who watched the BBC debate last night will know what Boris actually said was the UK and the EU could use article 24 of the GATT, which is a WTO implementation period which is a completely separate thing to the implementation period talked about in Theresa May's deal (although May's deal isn't really a deal, it is a new EU treaty).

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline.

I know. Every time you think it is as crazy as it gets... something else comes up.

We now have the current favourite Boris still going on about the NI border being able to be sorted out during an 'implementation period' after we leave.... despite knowing full well (I hope!) that unless there is a deal on leaving, there is no 'implementation period'.

-Matt

Anyone who watched the BBC debate last night will know what Boris actually said was the UK and the EU could use article 24 of the GATT, which is a WTO implementation period which is a completely separate thing to the implementation period talked about in Theresa May's deal (although May's deal isn't really a deal, it is a new EU treaty). "

And anyone who knows anything about Article 24 of GATT (WTO) knows that Article 24 only applies if both sides are moving towards a freer Trade arrangements than they currently have and needs the agreement of both sides (that is both sides have to agree to the deal). No deal is not an agreement and the only way the EU would agree to an Article 24 agreement is if we agree to pay the balance of the £39 billion and agree to a backstop on the border in Ireland. If we agree to all that to get Article 24 'free trade' with the EU why not just have May's deal instead?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry

Maybe worry about those in power, you know the ones who can actually do something. This fuck up has nothing to do with the Labour Party."

I’m happy with the way things are going, thank you very much

But if you are not and have to blame someone then the Maybot has to take some of the blame for not delivering a BREXIT deal. Corbyn too, because he is so unelectable that even she could get the better of him.

With a competent leader the Labour Party might have won the last election...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline.

I know. Every time you think it is as crazy as it gets... something else comes up.

We now have the current favourite Boris still going on about the NI border being able to be sorted out during an 'implementation period' after we leave.... despite knowing full well (I hope!) that unless there is a deal on leaving, there is no 'implementation period'.

-Matt

Anyone who watched the BBC debate last night will know what Boris actually said was the UK and the EU could use article 24 of the GATT, which is a WTO implementation period which is a completely separate thing to the implementation period talked about in Theresa May's deal (although May's deal isn't really a deal, it is a new EU treaty).

And anyone who knows anything about Article 24 of GATT (WTO) knows that Article 24 only applies if both sides are moving towards a freer Trade arrangements than they currently have and needs the agreement of both sides (that is both sides have to agree to the deal). No deal is not an agreement and the only way the EU would agree to an Article 24 agreement is if we agree to pay the balance of the £39 billion and agree to a backstop on the border in Ireland. If we agree to all that to get Article 24 'free trade' with the EU why not just have May's deal instead?

"

The £39 billion is conditional on May's deal/treaty being passed by Parliament, and Parliament has rejected it 3 times. The vast majority of the £39 billion amount covers payments to the EU under a transition period on May's deal/treaty. No deal voted for in Parliament (3 times) means no £39 billion for the EU. The £39 billion fee has nothing to do with an article 24 GATT agreement.

The backstop on the Irish border has also been rejected by Parliament 3 times as part of May's deal/treaty, it just isn't going to pass unless the EU make concessions to either time limit the backstop or give the UK unilateral and unconditional legal right to withdraw from the backstop if we so wish.

Sajid Javid's idea of dealing directly with the Irish and agreeing to pay the Irish upto £500 million to sort the border out bilaterally with the UK seems like a better idea, and is a lot cheaper than £39 billion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline.

I know. Every time you think it is as crazy as it gets... something else comes up.

We now have the current favourite Boris still going on about the NI border being able to be sorted out during an 'implementation period' after we leave.... despite knowing full well (I hope!) that unless there is a deal on leaving, there is no 'implementation period'.

-Matt

Anyone who watched the BBC debate last night will know what Boris actually said was the UK and the EU could use article 24 of the GATT, which is a WTO implementation period which is a completely separate thing to the implementation period talked about in Theresa May's deal (although May's deal isn't really a deal, it is a new EU treaty).

And anyone who knows anything about Article 24 of GATT (WTO) knows that Article 24 only applies if both sides are moving towards a freer Trade arrangements than they currently have and needs the agreement of both sides (that is both sides have to agree to the deal). No deal is not an agreement and the only way the EU would agree to an Article 24 agreement is if we agree to pay the balance of the £39 billion and agree to a backstop on the border in Ireland. If we agree to all that to get Article 24 'free trade' with the EU why not just have May's deal instead?

The £39 billion is conditional on May's deal/treaty being passed by Parliament, and Parliament has rejected it 3 times. The vast majority of the £39 billion amount covers payments to the EU under a transition period on May's deal/treaty. No deal voted for in Parliament (3 times) means no £39 billion for the EU. The £39 billion fee has nothing to do with an article 24 GATT agreement.

The backstop on the Irish border has also been rejected by Parliament 3 times as part of May's deal/treaty, it just isn't going to pass unless the EU make concessions to either time limit the backstop or give the UK unilateral and unconditional legal right to withdraw from the backstop if we so wish.

Sajid Javid's idea of dealing directly with the Irish and agreeing to pay the Irish upto £500 million to sort the border out bilaterally with the UK seems like a better idea, and is a lot cheaper than £39 billion. "

More nonsense from Sajid Javid, does he think Ireland is going to fuck over the other EU26, after three years of unity among all 27 remaining EU countries? Wishful thinking at this stage, why doesn’t he use that €500m to sort out the border on the U.K. side???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can Ireland sort it out by itself? MFN suggests they can't... If they don't apply vet checks to uk meat then that's no vet checks for any coming into the eu... No?

And good to see we're back on article 24 again. The no deal solution which needs the eu to agree. (plus all other members of the wto)

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By *ony 2016Man  over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas


"Can Ireland sort it out by itself? MFN suggests they can't... If they don't apply vet checks to uk meat then that's no vet checks for any coming into the eu... No?

And good to see we're back on article 24 again. The no deal solution which needs the eu to agree. (plus all other members of the wto) "

. Ireland could sort it out itself by becoming a united Ireland , outside the UK inside the EU

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Since may stepped down, politics got a whole lot crazy. This picking a new PM.

Because I'm sure that when may took over, there was none of this going on..

Plus by the time the one is selected, isn't it summer holiday, so technically we really won't see much of a leader ship.

This then only givening us a small insight for 2 months before the deadline.

I know. Every time you think it is as crazy as it gets... something else comes up.

We now have the current favourite Boris still going on about the NI border being able to be sorted out during an 'implementation period' after we leave.... despite knowing full well (I hope!) that unless there is a deal on leaving, there is no 'implementation period'.

-Matt

Anyone who watched the BBC debate last night will know what Boris actually said was the UK and the EU could use article 24 of the GATT, which is a WTO implementation period which is a completely separate thing to the implementation period talked about in Theresa May's deal (although May's deal isn't really a deal, it is a new EU treaty).

And anyone who knows anything about Article 24 of GATT (WTO) knows that Article 24 only applies if both sides are moving towards a freer Trade arrangements than they currently have and needs the agreement of both sides (that is both sides have to agree to the deal). No deal is not an agreement and the only way the EU would agree to an Article 24 agreement is if we agree to pay the balance of the £39 billion and agree to a backstop on the border in Ireland. If we agree to all that to get Article 24 'free trade' with the EU why not just have May's deal instead?

"

This..

Maybe someone should have briefed Boris..

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

Boris and the Don...dream team ....they can solve ...problems

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry

Maybe worry about those in power, you know the ones who can actually do something. This fuck up has nothing to do with the Labour Party."

Well yes it is,they have contrived to stop us getting out of the EU

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry

Maybe worry about those in power, you know the ones who can actually do something. This fuck up has nothing to do with the Labour Party.Well yes it is,they have contrived to stop us getting out of the EU "

The Erg and the dup could have got it through but they want the most extremist if all brexits ..

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Can Ireland sort it out by itself? MFN suggests they can't... If they don't apply vet checks to uk meat then that's no vet checks for any coming into the eu... No?

And good to see we're back on article 24 again. The no deal solution which needs the eu to agree. (plus all other members of the wto) . Ireland could sort it out itself by becoming a united Ireland , outside the UK inside the EU "

Well that's not going to happen before 31 October is it?

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By *ony 2016Man  over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry

Maybe worry about those in power, you know the ones who can actually do something. This fuck up has nothing to do with the Labour Party.Well yes it is,they have contrived to stop us getting out of the EU "

. Look at the arithmetic , after the 2017 General Election , tax payers cash from the magic money tree ( money we couldn't give to nurses , police , education etc. ) was given to the DUP for them to vote with the Conservatives which gave the Conservative government a MAJORITY , so the ONLY people who have stopped Brexit are the Tories !!!!!!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"The conservative government has become like a cesspit for highly inept politicians over the last few years. It's almost been as if they've had a competition to out-crazy each other, by their lack of intellect, vision and overall suitability for public office. May then resigns, so the rabid bunch that's left is all there is to be picked from.

As it's the futures of millions of people, including some not born yet, that will suffer the impact from these low-lives, it's tragic. More worrying is the loonatics of corbyn and co in labour now they are a real worry

Maybe worry about those in power, you know the ones who can actually do something. This fuck up has nothing to do with the Labour Party.Well yes it is,they have contrived to stop us getting out of the EU "

Funny that. I thought that Labour were contriving with May to get BREXIT done. I guess their real problem is that Labour is not Remain enough for Remainers and not BREXIT enough for BREXITERS. Almost the complete opposite of the Tory problem of way too BREXIT for Remainers but a little too Remain for BREXITERS.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes it have, may is the best of the worst.

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