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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

He didn’t say go home

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Same difference.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

Yeah ones the truth and ones made up

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

By the definition of the UK, such behaviour is racist and unacceptable. Criminal, even.

It is amazing how many people like you think a white supremacist like Trump is acceptable.

Racism is a really ugly, vile characteristic.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

I 100% agree with you

But just because you don’t like someone you can’t make up things or re arrange words just to call someone a racist. It’s a serious accusation so you need to be accurate

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple  over a year ago

canterbury

He never said that ..people need to listen...

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"I 100% agree with you

But just because you don’t like someone you can’t make up things or re arrange words just to call someone a racist. It’s a serious accusation so you need to be accurate "

You obviously haven't spent much time in this forum.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"He never said that ..people need to listen..."

What did he say and what was the chant at his rally which he encouraged, later distanced himself from and then embraced again?

Do please clarify

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

"

That was one reported incident.

We've also had a lesbian couple physically assaulted on a bus and people insulted on the tube with nobody intervening.

I'm sure that there are people in the US who would intervene too.

I'd like to say that we are better at this, but I don't think that we are. We don't have the deep fault line of slavery and segregation that the US does though.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He never said that ..people need to listen...

What did he say and what was the chant at his rally which he encouraged, later distanced himself from and then embraced again?

Do please clarify "

Lucy the leftist is back

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"He never said that ..people need to listen...

What did he say and what was the chant at his rally which he encouraged, later distanced himself from and then embraced again?

Do please clarify

Lucy the leftist is back"

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple  over a year ago

Dudley


"He never said that ..people need to listen...

What did he say and what was the chant at his rally which he encouraged, later distanced himself from and then embraced again?

Do please clarify

Lucy the leftist is back "

Looks like you have added a new member to your fan club! Lol

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He never said that ..people need to listen...

What did he say and what was the chant at his rally which he encouraged, later distanced himself from and then embraced again?

Do please clarify

Lucy the leftist is back

Looks like you have added a new member to your fan club! Lol "

Yep if your looking for facts to be jumbled up, words to be ignored and intent and meaning to be guessed at she’s your man

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/psychological-profile-of-online-trolls/

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple  over a year ago

Dudley


"He never said that ..people need to listen...

What did he say and what was the chant at his rally which he encouraged, later distanced himself from and then embraced again?

Do please clarify

Lucy the leftist is back

Looks like you have added a new member to your fan club! Lol

Yep if your looking for facts to be jumbled up, words to be ignored and intent and meaning to be guessed at she’s your man "

Always give a master class in pomposity too! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To try and say that Trump is meaning anything other than what is obvious is demeaning .He is playing to the inner bigotry that infests men of all nations. It is a ploy to win votes but also a reflection of a desperate man trying to deflect from his Epstein associations which may still come back to haunt him.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/psychological-profile-of-online-trolls/"

Sorry there were far to many articles to just pick one concerning fantasists, fabricators and the daydreams of the progressive left

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"To try and say that Trump is meaning anything other than what is obvious is demeaning .He is playing to the inner bigotry that infests men of all nations. It is a ploy to win votes but also a reflection of a desperate man trying to deflect from his Epstein associations which may still come back to haunt him."

Lol he’s a paedo as well now is he

The inner bigotry in all men of all nations lol wow did you just say that ,, brilliant

And so your guessing what he meant then instead of going by what he said ,, hmmmm ok

Hey psssttt I did hear he has a swastika tattooed on his bum and his uncle was hitler also

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"Pretty good" is either a troll or just a, no he must be a troll no one is this deluded surely ....Trump is a man with few redeeming qualities.For a man who weaseled his way out of serving his country not once but five times to question the patriotism of others shows a man without character and a streak of yellow running up his spine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is a simple difference between the US and the UK.

In the USA, there is a land border between the USA and the rest of the world which is trying to claim asylum in the USA.

In the UK, there is a sea border between the UK and the rest of the world which is trying to claim asylum in the UK.

The similarity is that the border lies to the south.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


""Pretty good" is either a troll or just a, no he must be a troll no one is this deluded surely ....Trump is a man with few redeeming qualities.For a man who weaseled his way out of serving his country not once but five times to question the patriotism of others shows a man without character and a streak of yellow running up his spine."

Apart from the troll bit as your guessing again like the tweet I agree with you , I’m no huge trump fan, think he’s ok but certainly no fan

But you can’t just make stuff up spin things and guess what he meant, and call someone a racist, hope you understand

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By *ean299Man  over a year ago

Lucan


"There is a simple difference between the US and the UK.

In the USA, there is a land border between the USA and the rest of the world which is trying to claim asylum in the USA.

In the UK, there is a sea border between the UK and the rest of the world which is trying to claim asylum in the UK.

The similarity is that the border lies to the south."

The UK has a land border between it and the rest of the world which will be wide open.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There is a simple difference between the US and the UK.

In the USA, there is a land border between the USA and the rest of the world which is trying to claim asylum in the USA.

In the UK, there is a sea border between the UK and the rest of the world which is trying to claim asylum in the UK.

The similarity is that the border lies to the south.

The UK has a land border between it and the rest of the world which will be wide open."

Ahh yes and that's what they are calling.... taking control of our borders I think the Brexit promise was

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I 100% agree with you

But just because you don’t like someone you can’t make up things or re arrange words just to call someone a racist. It’s a serious accusation so you need to be accurate You obviously haven't spent much time in this forum. "

This

It’s like a comedy show now

Looney lefties crying again?

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By *uck-RogersMan  over a year ago

Portland

I know the answer to this one. whats the difference between the U.S. and the U.K. ? Shag in the U.S. refers to a style of dance. And in the U.K. Shag is when you put a part of your body into another person. Male or Female.

Oh oh oh and another difference between our closest allies the U.S. and us Brits is.

You can say what you like about potus and the American people. You can even be a supporter of terrorists. murdering drug dealing human trafficking gangs. And excite genocide against a race of people. And there is no repercussions.

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


""Pretty good" is either a troll or just a, no he must be a troll no one is this deluded surely ....Trump is a man with few redeeming qualities.For a man who weaseled his way out of serving his country not once but five times to question the patriotism of others shows a man without character and a streak of yellow running up his spine.

Apart from the troll bit as your guessing again like the tweet I agree with you , I’m no huge trump fan, think he’s ok but certainly no fan

But you can’t just make stuff up spin things and guess what he meant, and call someone a racist, hope you understand "

A leopard does not change its spots,

Donald Trump has let slip his inner racist on countless occasions throughout his life. Refusing to rent apartments to blacks in his early years as a property developer, during which time he took out full page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park 5. More recently, he refused to apologise for his actions back then and as recently as 2016, maintained that they were still guilty despite another man confessing and the five being completely exonerated and paid compensation for the way they were treated by the NYPD and State Prosecutor. Throughout his time as President he has referred to African countries as “shitholes” and after his provocative “go back” tweet he wallowed in a full ten seconds (maybe more) of a rally crowd chanting “Send her back.”

Donald Trump is a racist and he is stoking division and hatred as a power trip. It is not that difficult to stir people’s inner fears and tribalistic instincts. He does this well and then uses the stirred up emotions to control his fan base. It is simply classic fraudster/conman/Dictator tactics.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Pretty good" is either a troll or just a, no he must be a troll no one is this deluded surely ....Trump is a man with few redeeming qualities.For a man who weaseled his way out of serving his country not once but five times to question the patriotism of others shows a man without character and a streak of yellow running up his spine.

Apart from the troll bit as your guessing again like the tweet I agree with you , I’m no huge trump fan, think he’s ok but certainly no fan

But you can’t just make stuff up spin things and guess what he meant, and call someone a racist, hope you understand

A leopard does not change its spots,

Donald Trump has let slip his inner racist on countless occasions throughout his life. Refusing to rent apartments to blacks in his early years as a property developer, during which time he took out full page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park 5. More recently, he refused to apologise for his actions back then and as recently as 2016, maintained that they were still guilty despite another man confessing and the five being completely exonerated and paid compensation for the way they were treated by the NYPD and State Prosecutor. Throughout his time as President he has referred to African countries as “shitholes” and after his provocative “go back” tweet he wallowed in a full ten seconds (maybe more) of a rally crowd chanting “Send her back.”

Donald Trump is a racist and he is stoking division and hatred as a power trip. It is not that difficult to stir people’s inner fears and tribalistic instincts. He does this well and then uses the stirred up emotions to control his fan base. It is simply classic fraudster/conman/Dictator tactics. "

Farage has been doing this here for years

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


""Pretty good" is either a troll or just a, no he must be a troll no one is this deluded surely ....Trump is a man with few redeeming qualities.For a man who weaseled his way out of serving his country not once but five times to question the patriotism of others shows a man without character and a streak of yellow running up his spine.

Apart from the troll bit as your guessing again like the tweet I agree with you , I’m no huge trump fan, think he’s ok but certainly no fan

But you can’t just make stuff up spin things and guess what he meant, and call someone a racist, hope you understand

A leopard does not change its spots,

Donald Trump has let slip his inner racist on countless occasions throughout his life. Refusing to rent apartments to blacks in his early years as a property developer, during which time he took out full page ads demanding the death penalty for the Central Park 5. More recently, he refused to apologise for his actions back then and as recently as 2016, maintained that they were still guilty despite another man confessing and the five being completely exonerated and paid compensation for the way they were treated by the NYPD and State Prosecutor. Throughout his time as President he has referred to African countries as “shitholes” and after his provocative “go back” tweet he wallowed in a full ten seconds (maybe more) of a rally crowd chanting “Send her back.”

Donald Trump is a racist and he is stoking division and hatred as a power trip. It is not that difficult to stir people’s inner fears and tribalistic instincts. He does this well and then uses the stirred up emotions to control his fan base. It is simply classic fraudster/conman/Dictator tactics.

Farage has been doing this here for years "

Ok some fair points and things I haven’t heard of before especially the renting thing , when was this ?

In relation to the Central Park 5 that’s an awful part of history drawing on an awfully racist New York judicial system. In relation to not apologising I agree he should but not doing so dosent make him a racist

And there are lots of countries that genuinely shit holes come on that’s stupid ( slightly truthful) but not racist

And please don’t think I’m saying it makes a difference but he won an award years ago from Jesse Jackson for his good work and plenty of rappers used to use him as an idle as such

The recent emails also asked them to come back also, not sure if that’s a typical racial comment

He a dic stupid etc 100% but racist I’m not sure

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/psychological-profile-of-online-trolls/

Sorry there were far to many articles to just pick one concerning fantasists, fabricators and the daydreams of the progressive left"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/psychological-profile-of-online-trolls/

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


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But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

"

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trump’s a piece of shit, do you expect anything different

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth

Just seen on another site...

If Trump didn't say racist things, try repeating them to non indigenous co workers in the presence of witnesses and see how long you're employed for...

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By *Cocksucker84Man  over a year ago

newcastle


"Just seen on another site...

If Trump didn't say racist things, try repeating them to non indigenous co workers in the presence of witnesses and see how long you're employed for... "

Excellent point. It's a sad state of affairs when people are trying to say he isn't racist for telling people who were born in America to go home to countries they've never been to because of their colour.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

An American friend of mine commented about this.. that it is a land built by slaves and immigrant. Powerful white men have had a history of exploiting minorities and should have learned from that history - that the the land of the free applies equally.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

*immigrants

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"I 100% agree with you

But just because you don’t like someone you can’t make up things or re arrange words just to call someone a racist. It’s a serious accusation so you need to be accurate "

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

"

Read what you say yourself sometimes before such heavy critisism

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Sorry, your message is too cryptic for my simple mind. Can you simplify please - I do not understand what you are getting at.

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city

The congress persons gender and religion were not why Trump said go home, it was cause she was saying anti american stuff, like he told british origin people in the past to leave if they didnt like the US etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The congress persons gender and religion were not why Trump said go home, it was cause she was saying anti american stuff, like he told british origin people in the past to leave if they didnt like the US etc."

It's not she. It's they.

He has looked to boil this down to being about one person as she wasn't born in the US and may have said other stuff criticising the US.

But there were three people. Two born in the States. And if i understand it correctly they were criticising the state of accomidation for those seeking homes in America. Not sure how that's anti American. Especially in a land of freedom of speach.

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By *izandpaulCouple  over a year ago

merseyside

Sad how these two men are suddenly similar.

One, the leader of the free world, the other, a dopey old twat who lives in a hut in the lake district. ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

"

.

Did you hear about the 60 year old run of the road and violently attacked for the crime of having a trump bumper sticker, oh by the way his attacker was black, I don't know if that makes a difference but you seem obsessed with the colour white at times or did you hear about the big black dude that attacked two teenage boys for the crime of wearing a trump hat?.

In fact according to the FBI's own figures attacks on trump supporters outnumber the way round by a ratio of 5-1.

Or there's the openly self titled black supremacist Shaun king who works closely inside the democratic party (although strangely enough he's actually a white guy who pretends he's Black ).

In fact I heard the other day in Russia they only arrest 400 people a year for saying stuff the state doesn't like being heard where as we arrest 4000 .

Job well done uk

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city


"The congress persons gender and religion were not why Trump said go home, it was cause she was saying anti american stuff, like he told british origin people in the past to leave if they didnt like the US etc.

It's not she. It's they.

He has looked to boil this down to being about one person as she wasn't born in the US and may have said other stuff criticising the US.

But there were three people. Two born in the States. And if i understand it correctly they were criticising the state of accomidation for those seeking homes in America. Not sure how that's anti American. Especially in a land of freedom of speach."

It's anti american because it was one in many comments including the overhaul of the judicial sytem in america to sharia law.

Trump was not responding to a single coment, but their general attitude.

Dont be so American forcing everything into gender and race politics, its tiresome and it will ruin all your legitimate arguments.

Believe it or not the attitude of leaving a place if yout dont like it is 100% normal, in america if you dont like a state you leave.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An American friend of mine commented about this.. that it is a land built by slaves and immigrant. Powerful white men have had a history of exploiting minorities and should have learned from that history - that the the land of the free applies equally. "

He's not stopping immigration though, in fact the USA took in more immigrants than any other country in the world last year, legal immigration is not illegal immigration.

Powerful white men and slaves, please give it a fucking rest will yer, you know everybody above the fucking Mississippi basin was practically white and the 500,000 Americans who died or had their legs blown off in s civil war ending slavery they were 92% white.

Why the hell in 2019 when debating legal immigration into a country do we still have this identitarain claptrap.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The congress persons gender and religion were not why Trump said go home, it was cause she was saying anti american stuff, like he told british origin people in the past to leave if they didnt like the US etc.

It's not she. It's they.

He has looked to boil this down to being about one person as she wasn't born in the US and may have said other stuff criticising the US.

But there were three people. Two born in the States. And if i understand it correctly they were criticising the state of accomidation for those seeking homes in America. Not sure how that's anti American. Especially in a land of freedom of speach.

It's anti american because it was one in many comments including the overhaul of the judicial sytem in america to sharia law.

Trump was not responding to a single coment, but their general attitude.

Dont be so American forcing everything into gender and race politics, its tiresome and it will ruin all your legitimate arguments.

Believe it or not the attitude of leaving a place if yout dont like it is 100% normal, in america if you dont like a state you leave."

I'm not into the detail of US politics. Could you post some links to articles where they've showed this wider attitude?

So what triggered the attack then? I'm guesing it was something all three were involved in...

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

It's anti american because it was one in many comments including the overhaul of the judicial sytem in america to sharia law.

"

Ok, you're with the alt-right then.

They believe Omar wants to introduce sharia law in the USA because she, um, er, wears a headscarf.

Smacks a little of prejudice, dontcha think?

This from Fox News:

“Think about it. Omar wears a hijab,” said Fox News host Jeanine Pirro. “Is her adherence to this Islamic doctrine indicative of her adherence to sharia law, which in itself is antithetical to the United States Constitution?”

You have swallowed sectarian bullshit, basically.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

More on Sharia Law for you:

“These laws are anathema to our values as humans, and must be condemned in the strongest possible terms.

“The new statutes will violate the human rights of women, children and the LGBTQ+ community. This brutality runs counter to universal values of respect for human rights and freedom for people to worship and love however they choose.

"The United States has a duty to protect against this blatant disregard for humanity and the violation of basic rights wherever we see them.”

Here is your starter for ten.

Who said the above about the adoption of Sharia Law by Brunei in May - Donald Trump or Ilhan Omar?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

.

Did you hear about the 60 year old run of the road and violently attacked for the crime of having a trump bumper sticker, oh by the way his attacker was black, I don't know if that makes a difference but you seem obsessed with the colour white at times or did you hear about the big black dude that attacked two teenage boys for the crime of wearing a trump hat?.

In fact according to the FBI's own figures attacks on trump supporters outnumber the way round by a ratio of 5-1.

Or there's the openly self titled black supremacist Shaun king who works closely inside the democratic party (although strangely enough he's actually a white guy who pretends he's Black ).

In fact I heard the other day in Russia they only arrest 400 people a year for saying stuff the state doesn't like being heard where as we arrest 4000 .

Job well done uk"

If anyone is attacking Donald Trump supporters then that's terrible. Just as bad as anybody who is not a Trump supporter being attacked.

The FBI has specific statistics on this? Where? It would be interesting to see them.

I don't have any knowledge of Shaun King. So if he is a naughty man then the Democrats should not be associating themselves with him. What does he do for them?

What happened to the 400 people that Russia arrested? What crimes had they actually committed? What about the 400 in the UK?

What point are you making?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"An American friend of mine commented about this.. that it is a land built by slaves and immigrant. Powerful white men have had a history of exploiting minorities and should have learned from that history - that the the land of the free applies equally.

He's not stopping immigration though, in fact the USA took in more immigrants than any other country in the world last year, legal immigration is not illegal immigration.

Powerful white men and slaves, please give it a fucking rest will yer, you know everybody above the fucking Mississippi basin was practically white and the 500,000 Americans who died or had their legs blown off in s civil war ending slavery they were 92% white.

Why the hell in 2019 when debating legal immigration into a country do we still have this identitarain claptrap.

"

He claims to want to prevent illegal immigration bit the reality is that he demonises immigrants in a far more general sense be they Muslim or Mexican.

I have no issue with enforcing border controls, but I do have a problem with claiming that these all of these people arrive with criminal intent and should be feared and treated inhumanely.

Are you saying that the consequences of slavery have no bearing on US politics?

Are you saying that power and wealth are not concentrated disproportionately in the hands of white men?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An American friend of mine commented about this.. that it is a land built by slaves and immigrant. Powerful white men have had a history of exploiting minorities and should have learned from that history - that the the land of the free applies equally.

He's not stopping immigration though, in fact the USA took in more immigrants than any other country in the world last year, legal immigration is not illegal immigration.

Powerful white men and slaves, please give it a fucking rest will yer, you know everybody above the fucking Mississippi basin was practically white and the 500,000 Americans who died or had their legs blown off in s civil war ending slavery they were 92% white.

Why the hell in 2019 when debating legal immigration into a country do we still have this identitarain claptrap.

He claims to want to prevent illegal immigration bit the reality is that he demonises immigrants in a far more general sense be they Muslim or Mexican.

I have no issue with enforcing border controls, but I do have a problem with claiming that these all of these people arrive with criminal intent and should be feared and treated inhumanely.

Are you saying that the consequences of slavery have no bearing on US politics?

Are you saying that power and wealth are not concentrated disproportionately in the hands of white men?"

Immigrants slowly infiltrating foreign soil, taking land by force and murdering the indigenous population until finally they want to build a great bloody wall because other immigrants might want a piece of the action

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"An American friend of mine commented about this.. that it is a land built by slaves and immigrant. Powerful white men have had a history of exploiting minorities and should have learned from that history - that the the land of the free applies equally.

He's not stopping immigration though, in fact the USA took in more immigrants than any other country in the world last year, legal immigration is not illegal immigration.

Powerful white men and slaves, please give it a fucking rest will yer, you know everybody above the fucking Mississippi basin was practically white and the 500,000 Americans who died or had their legs blown off in s civil war ending slavery they were 92% white.

Why the hell in 2019 when debating legal immigration into a country do we still have this identitarain claptrap.

"

I am surprised the statistics are out for 2018. I suspect if Trump hadn't succeeded in bringing numbers down previously, his 'muslim ban' the federal courts were over turning, now upheld by the supreme court 2019 will soon take effect on the numbers seen. If his 'muslim ban' won't have an affect on the numbers, then him cutting millions from budges that directly go into child education or welfare programmes in state detention centres will see the US quickly become a no go zone for many unless you you meet a certain skin tone.

To take a view that a majority of whites died in the American Civil War so people need to get over it forgets the idea that attitudes remained along with cultural practice, not least language and most importantly - laws.

Identity politics are politics that have had and do impact issues from segregation, workplace, marriage, voting, housing, education, imprisonment and on..

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

"

If the claptrap is to be believed, men everywhere are just plain terrified - or jus ignorant.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

If the claptrap is to be believed, men everywhere are just plain terrified - or jus ignorant. "

What makes you think I was referring to men?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

"

Not sure its true of all states but definitely down south i worked in south texas,Louisiana and mississippi about 25 years ago and all they talked about was the guns they had,when i asked why do you need so many guns they all said one day those "n word" are going to up rise and you need to be prepared and they actually believed that.Mind you those rednecks cant walk and chew gum at the same time.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

If the claptrap is to be believed, men everywhere are just plain terrified - or jus ignorant.

What makes you think I was referring to men?

"

Okay, I was.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Not sure its true of all states but definitely down south i worked in south texas,Louisiana and mississippi about 25 years ago and all they talked about was the guns they had,when i asked why do you need so many guns they all said one day those "n word" are going to up rise and you need to be prepared and they actually believed that.Mind you those rednecks cant walk and chew gum at the same time. "

I thought it was tobacco they couldn't chew and walk with?

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

"

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An American friend of mine commented about this.. that it is a land built by slaves and immigrant. Powerful white men have had a history of exploiting minorities and should have learned from that history - that the the land of the free applies equally.

He's not stopping immigration though, in fact the USA took in more immigrants than any other country in the world last year, legal immigration is not illegal immigration.

Powerful white men and slaves, please give it a fucking rest will yer, you know everybody above the fucking Mississippi basin was practically white and the 500,000 Americans who died or had their legs blown off in s civil war ending slavery they were 92% white.

Why the hell in 2019 when debating legal immigration into a country do we still have this identitarain claptrap.

I am surprised the statistics are out for 2018. I suspect if Trump hadn't succeeded in bringing numbers down previously, his 'muslim ban' the federal courts were over turning, now upheld by the supreme court 2019 will soon take effect on the numbers seen. If his 'muslim ban' won't have an affect on the numbers, then him cutting millions from budges that directly go into child education or welfare programmes in state detention centres will see the US quickly become a no go zone for many unless you you meet a certain skin tone.

To take a view that a majority of whites died in the American Civil War so people need to get over it forgets the idea that attitudes remained along with cultural practice, not least language and most importantly - laws.

Identity politics are politics that have had and do impact issues from segregation, workplace, marriage, voting, housing, education, imprisonment and on.."

.

The "Muslim ban" if it was meant to reduce numbers of Muslims was very poorly thought out, Malaysia one of the most populated and one of the highest immigrants stats into the USA wasn't on it, in fact the only four Muslim countries in the list were Syria Yemen Iran and Libya, Venezuela and North Korea were on the list but not because there actually weighed down by Muslims I'm guessing.

The entire thing was operational derived of course from the intelligence services under that well known white supremacist Barack Obama .

The USA took in over 1 million immigrants last year under trump the highest figure of any country in the world and the majority of those immigration figures were non white.

If your under some illusion that everybody in the USA is a clan member and trump is the grand Wizard putting a stop to all this then I'm afraid the figures and facts just don't back up your giant tin foil hat wearing conspiracy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

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Did you hear about the 60 year old run of the road and violently attacked for the crime of having a trump bumper sticker, oh by the way his attacker was black, I don't know if that makes a difference but you seem obsessed with the colour white at times or did you hear about the big black dude that attacked two teenage boys for the crime of wearing a trump hat?.

In fact according to the FBI's own figures attacks on trump supporters outnumber the way round by a ratio of 5-1.

Or there's the openly self titled black supremacist Shaun king who works closely inside the democratic party (although strangely enough he's actually a white guy who pretends he's Black ).

In fact I heard the other day in Russia they only arrest 400 people a year for saying stuff the state doesn't like being heard where as we arrest 4000 .

Job well done uk

If anyone is attacking Donald Trump supporters then that's terrible. Just as bad as anybody who is not a Trump supporter being attacked.

The FBI has specific statistics on this? Where? It would be interesting to see them.

I don't have any knowledge of Shaun King. So if he is a naughty man then the Democrats should not be associating themselves with him. What does he do for them?

What happened to the 400 people that Russia arrested? What crimes had they actually committed? What about the 400 in the UK?

What point are you making?"

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Shaun king is one of the justice democrats founders, he's part of the new far left push causing the ongoing DNC civil war, I won't tell you anyhow as the other day on the trump tweet thread you said you didn't want to know about it.

Shaun king describes himself as a black supremacist, he's got a wiki page you can go look him up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche."

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situation so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situation so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

"

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Your an amazing father, working all the hours God sends for the benefit of your children while passing on to them your great morality and empathy, inspiring them with words of wisdom, helping them with homework and life lessons, spending all your spare time with them to keep them on the right path, amazing.

How you do it with the hours you put in on here every day, I can only imagine the slog.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A classic of its time and educational.A must watch for all young black men.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=daJZU5plRhs

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situation so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

"

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before "

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny "

I must be to thick bob I just don’t get why ppl think because of someone’s colour they could fear them rational or irrational lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny I must be to thick bob I just don’t get why ppl think because of someone’s colour they could fear them rational or irrational lol"

Especily when we know it's their religion which we should fear...

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"

The "Muslim ban" if it was meant to reduce numbers of Muslims was very poorly thought out, Malaysia one of the most populated and one of the highest immigrants stats into the USA wasn't on it, in fact the only four Muslim countries in the list were Syria Yemen Iran and Libya, Venezuela and North Korea were on the list but not because there actually weighed down by Muslims I'm guessing.

The entire thing was operational derived of course from the intelligence services under that well known white supremacist Barack Obama .

The USA took in over 1 million immigrants last year under trump the highest figure of any country in the world and the majority of those immigration figures were non white.

If your under some illusion that everybody in the USA is a clan member and trump is the grand Wizard putting a stop to all this then I'm afraid the figures and facts just don't back up your giant tin foil hat wearing conspiracy."

So I'll surmise..

Anyone that believes US racism exists needs a straight jacket. All non whites have to take that chip off their shoulder as there's plenty of other places to live. If they are not on the list it's nothing personal, it's a policy thing, only the policy isn't institutional as Obama was Black.

Sounds legit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny I must be to thick bob I just don’t get why ppl think because of someone’s colour they could fear them rational or irrational lol

Especily when we know it's their religion which we should fear... "

That's a silly thing to say, being worried by someones chosen religion is perfectly natural and honestly is a good predictor of there other life choices, Freud wrote

Religion, even if it calls itself of love, must be hard and unloving to those who do not belong to it. Fundamentally indeed every religion is in the same way a religion of love for all those whom it embraces; while cruelty and intolerance towards those who do not belong to it are natural to every religion.

There plenty of academic research that shows secular less religious societies work better and have less violence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny I must be to thick bob I just don’t get why ppl think because of someone’s colour they could fear them rational or irrational lol

Especily when we know it's their religion which we should fear...

That's a silly thing to say, being worried by someones chosen religion is perfectly natural and honestly is a good predictor of there other life choices, Freud wrote

Religion, even if it calls itself of love, must be hard and unloving to those who do not belong to it. Fundamentally indeed every religion is in the same way a religion of love for all those whom it embraces; while cruelty and intolerance towards those who do not belong to it are natural to every religion.

There plenty of academic research that shows secular less religious societies work better and have less violence."

I would suggest the worry is disproportionate even if there is a correlation.

I'm guessing other predictors of violence are gender and wealth (or lack thereof). We don't have the same reactions in these cases.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny I must be to thick bob I just don’t get why ppl think because of someone’s colour they could fear them rational or irrational lol

Especily when we know it's their religion which we should fear...

That's a silly thing to say, being worried by someones chosen religion is perfectly natural and honestly is a good predictor of there other life choices, Freud wrote

Religion, even if it calls itself of love, must be hard and unloving to those who do not belong to it. Fundamentally indeed every religion is in the same way a religion of love for all those whom it embraces; while cruelty and intolerance towards those who do not belong to it are natural to every religion.

There plenty of academic research that shows secular less religious societies work better and have less violence.

I would suggest the worry is disproportionate even if there is a correlation.

I'm guessing other predictors of violence are gender and wealth (or lack thereof). We don't have the same reactions in these cases. "

Probably but then you stated religion and you shouldn't be worried by it?.

Ok let's take this to the extremes , the UK is now 90% Muslim do you think you'd still have the ability legally to frequent this site?.

How about be gay, kiss in public, wear a bikini, wear women's clothes?.

Can you tell me which 90% Muslim countries this is tolerated in today? And if it's not religious in nature what's causing every single Muslim country with vastly different cultures and vast geographical difference to follow the same path?.

Like I said, it's a fairly good predictor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You as a man living in Western society might not have to much to worry about from religion but I suggest if your say a woman in Pakistan who wants to do suggestive playful vlogs then you might be of a different opinion or you could try it for real and see how it pans out, hopefully better than the last woman who tried it

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

Can you tell me which 90% Muslim countries this is tolerated in today? And if it's not religious in nature what's causing every single Muslim country with vastly different cultures and vast geographical difference to follow the same path?.."

Many of these things you fear were exported by the British and imposed through the penal code on countries conquered and colonised by the British. Some have rescinded them, others have not.

Omar Ilhan - see quote above on Sharia Law - is a very good example of a modern thinking person who happens to be muslim.

Not only did she sponsor the bill on Congress calling for a boycott of Brunei because of Sharia Law, she also steered through equality legislation protecting women, LGBT etc.

It is the alt-right who want to go in the opposite direction in the US and victimise those they consider different.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's an interesting thought experiment to do before you tear down the oppressive Western democracies.

Go round the map and find them, there few and far between, once you've located the 20 odd out of the 203 available see which is the next best country to move too?.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Can you tell me which 90% Muslim countries this is tolerated in today? And if it's not religious in nature what's causing every single Muslim country with vastly different cultures and vast geographical difference to follow the same path?..

Many of these things you fear were exported by the British and imposed through the penal code on countries conquered and colonised by the British. Some have rescinded them, others have not.

Omar Ilhan - see quote above on Sharia Law - is a very good example of a modern thinking person who happens to be muslim.

Not only did she sponsor the bill on Congress calling for a boycott of Brunei because of Sharia Law, she also steered through equality legislation protecting women, LGBT etc.

It is the alt-right who want to go in the opposite direction in the US and victimise those they consider different.

"

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So what was the answer to the question I asked as last time I looked the USA is not 90% Muslim.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Or if that's to hard a question maybe you could direct me to the Iran part of the forums, I quickly looked through and saw most of the European countries, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

Couldn't find Indonesia though.

Why is that?

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

That's my point. The threat to human rights in the US is from the alt-right and their agenda of white supremacy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get the impression there is a white cohort in America that is terrified of becoming a minority - and being treated the way they treat minority ethnic groups.

Fear of the bogeyman is endemic in the American psyche and this goes in some way to explain their nonsensical attachment to firearms.

Massacres of indigenous tribes and mass lynching of blacks in the pre and post civil war years are all part of the same flawed psyche.

There has always been an irrational fear of young black men.Young black women get a free pass...

I have no fear for my daughter encountering issues but I purposefully make my son aware of the situational ion so he can successfully avoid problems as he becomes a young man.

this must be a thing in big cities because I just don’t get why there would be a fear of black men iv never heard of it before

That's because it's an "irrational fear "

You seem rational most of the time.. watch the YouTube vid if you get the chance.Its funny I must be to thick bob I just don’t get why ppl think because of someone’s colour they could fear them rational or irrational lol

Especily when we know it's their religion which we should fear...

That's a silly thing to say, being worried by someones chosen religion is perfectly natural and honestly is a good predictor of there other life choices, Freud wrote

Religion, even if it calls itself of love, must be hard and unloving to those who do not belong to it. Fundamentally indeed every religion is in the same way a religion of love for all those whom it embraces; while cruelty and intolerance towards those who do not belong to it are natural to every religion.

There plenty of academic research that shows secular less religious societies work better and have less violence.

I would suggest the worry is disproportionate even if there is a correlation.

I'm guessing other predictors of violence are gender and wealth (or lack thereof). We don't have the same reactions in these cases.

Probably but then you stated religion and you shouldn't be worried by it?.

Ok let's take this to the extremes , the UK is now 90% Muslim do you think you'd still have the ability legally to frequent this site?.

How about be gay, kiss in public, wear a bikini, wear women's clothes?.

Can you tell me which 90% Muslim countries this is tolerated in today? And if it's not religious in nature what's causing every single Muslim country with vastly different cultures and vast geographical difference to follow the same path?.

Like I said, it's a fairly good predictor."

You're putting a strawman up here. This discussion was (I thought) about the fear the US has.. And then experiences in the UK. My comment was intended as a tongue in cheek reaction to how some here react and extrapolate.

I think a full regression analysis would be interesting here. I wonder how much weight is on religion and how much its wealth or how developed it is. My guess is many poor Christian countries have similar cultural challenges. So maybe being religious rather than being of a certain denomination is a better predictor? And then maybe it's a chicken and egg question of whether religion prevents development. Or development reduces the strength of religious beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's my point. The threat to human rights in the US is from the alt-right and their agenda of white supremacy.

"

.

Omg I give up

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Can you tell me which 90% Muslim countries this is tolerated in today? And if it's not religious in nature what's causing every single Muslim country with vastly different cultures and vast geographical difference to follow the same path?..

Many of these things you fear were exported by the British and imposed through the penal code on countries conquered and colonised by the British. Some have rescinded them, others have not.

Omar Ilhan - see quote above on Sharia Law - is a very good example of a modern thinking person who happens to be muslim.

Not only did she sponsor the bill on Congress calling for a boycott of Brunei because of Sharia Law, she also steered through equality legislation protecting women, LGBT etc.

It is the alt-right who want to go in the opposite direction in the US and victimise those they consider different.

"

she also co-sponsored the 9/11 responders bill giving first responders medical coverage for life....

it was blocked in the senate by 2 republicans.....

now.... who's the "patriot" again?

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

socialism = anti-American = alien . . . the rest of the dots are easy to join up for the alt-right in the Trump corner.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

"

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

eh?

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess"

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess"

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella.. "

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim."

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person "

Go crawl back in your hole...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all"

No you haven't, you've stated something factually wrong ie what Robinson was banged up for and then when challenged throughout you have sought to flannel away from that fact and then lie..

No one on any of the threads where child abuse has been discussed in the last ten plus years has ever supported any individual, group or hang that has been involved in such criminal behaviour..

To say they have as you did is a complete lie..

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all

No you haven't, you've stated something factually wrong ie what Robinson was banged up for and then when challenged throughout you have sought to flannel away from that fact and then lie..

No one on any of the threads where child abuse has been discussed in the last ten plus years has ever supported any individual, group or hang that has been involved in such criminal behaviour..

To say they have as you did is a complete lie.. "

Sorry for not reading the whole thread just went on what I commented on

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Go crawl back in your hole...

"

?? Strange

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all

No you haven't, you've stated something factually wrong ie what Robinson was banged up for and then when challenged throughout you have sought to flannel away from that fact and then lie..

No one on any of the threads where child abuse has been discussed in the last ten plus years has ever supported any individual, group or hang that has been involved in such criminal behaviour..

To say they have as you did is a complete lie..

Sorry for not reading the whole thread just went on what I commented on "

The person you accused of supporting the grooming gangs has never done so..

Stop lying..

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all

No you haven't, you've stated something factually wrong ie what Robinson was banged up for and then when challenged throughout you have sought to flannel away from that fact and then lie..

No one on any of the threads where child abuse has been discussed in the last ten plus years has ever supported any individual, group or hang that has been involved in such criminal behaviour..

To say they have as you did is a complete lie..

Sorry for not reading the whole thread just went on what I commented on

The person you accused of supporting the grooming gangs has never done so..

Stop lying.. "

May want to read it again as seems pretty defensive about it by going off on one

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all

No you haven't, you've stated something factually wrong ie what Robinson was banged up for and then when challenged throughout you have sought to flannel away from that fact and then lie..

No one on any of the threads where child abuse has been discussed in the last ten plus years has ever supported any individual, group or hang that has been involved in such criminal behaviour..

To say they have as you did is a complete lie..

Sorry for not reading the whole thread just went on what I commented on

The person you accused of supporting the grooming gangs has never done so..

Stop lying..

May want to read it again as seems pretty defensive about it by going off on one "

Quite clear on what's been said and what's not been said and it doesn't change that what you have said is untrue, both when you said why you think Robinson was banged up and your comment about supporting etc..

Go and look online, it's there and simple enough to understand what he was banged up for..

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person "

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

That's a baseless and vile thing to say fella..

Well I can only base it on what was said that’s all

No you haven't, you've stated something factually wrong ie what Robinson was banged up for and then when challenged throughout you have sought to flannel away from that fact and then lie..

No one on any of the threads where child abuse has been discussed in the last ten plus years has ever supported any individual, group or hang that has been involved in such criminal behaviour..

To say they have as you did is a complete lie..

Sorry for not reading the whole thread just went on what I commented on

The person you accused of supporting the grooming gangs has never done so..

Stop lying..

May want to read it again as seems pretty defensive about it by going off on one

Quite clear on what's been said and what's not been said and it doesn't change that what you have said is untrue, both when you said why you think Robinson was banged up and your comment about supporting etc..

Go and look online, it's there and simple enough to understand what he was banged up for..

"

Robinson ??

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent? "

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x"

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you? "

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x"

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

"

There is less and less difference between the US and the UK.

You have the evidence in this thread.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism? "

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"In the same week Trump tells US citizens to "go home" and sort out their country - and his supporters chant "send her home" about a muslim congresswoman - the UK convicts someone for doing exactly the same thing here.

A self-confessed, 65-year-old white supremacist from Workington, Cumbria, pleaded guilty to racially aggravated behaviour with intent to cause harassment, alarm and distress.

He shouted "get back to your own country" and other racial abuse at a young mother wearing a headscarf.

Pamela Fee, senior crown prosecutor for northwest England, said: “Leslie Blaney, a self-declared white supremacist, unleashed a torrent of racial abuse at a young mother as she walked down a busy street with her young children, simply because she was wearing a headscarf."

Passers-by called the police. Blaney was sentenced to a 10-week community order with a curfew and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £90 victim surcharge.

“Spouting such poisonous views in a public place is not acceptable in today’s society and we will continue to bring before the courts those who commit hate crime offences.”

Kinda puts Trump to shame, dontcha think?

There is less and less difference between the US and the UK.

You have the evidence in this thread."

Wow very profound, please show us all the way

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism "

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too "

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ?? "

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too "

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one )

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too "

Correct.

But in your eyes, is that positive or negative?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one ) "

No, you can't under UK law

Bit of an odd micro-victory to go for though

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Correct.

But in your eyes, is that positive or negative?"

Being judged on your words and deeds or self-certfying mortgages?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one )

No, you can't under UK law

Bit of an odd micro-victory to go for though "

Still no answer I see lol

Well I was wondering why you brought it up but I just wanted to point out again you were incorrect as you can be offered them by lenders based in Europe your just not covered by the FCA

I am starting to feel sorry for you now, candy from a baby springs to mind

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Can you tell me which 90% Muslim countries this is tolerated in today? And if it's not religious in nature what's causing every single Muslim country with vastly different cultures and vast geographical difference to follow the same path?..

Many of these things you fear were exported by the British and imposed through the penal code on countries conquered and colonised by the British. Some have rescinded them, others have not.

Omar Ilhan - see quote above on Sharia Law - is a very good example of a modern thinking person who happens to be muslim.

Not only did she sponsor the bill on Congress calling for a boycott of Brunei because of Sharia Law, she also steered through equality legislation protecting women, LGBT etc.

It is the alt-right who want to go in the opposite direction in the US and victimise those they consider different.

she also co-sponsored the 9/11 responders bill giving first responders medical coverage for life....

it was blocked in the senate by 2 republicans.....

now.... who's the "patriot" again?"

Don't quote my conversation with that please it's irrelevant to my point I made, unless you want me to find a white guy that's done something noble and say aha look here's a white guy that did a good thing therefore all white men are noble or would you prefer the opposite, me to find a black guy who did a bad thing and say oh look correlation, is that what you want?.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one )

No, you can't under UK law

Bit of an odd micro-victory to go for though

Still no answer I see lol

Well I was wondering why you brought it up but I just wanted to point out again you were incorrect as you can be offered them by lenders based in Europe your just not covered by the FCA

I am starting to feel sorry for you now, candy from a baby springs to mind "

I've answered. You didn't get it?

Self-perception is not the most objective method of assessment. It has an inherent bias. So anybody can think that they are anything. It does make it true.

It's their words and deeds that do.

You can get a mortgage from Papua New Guinea if you like.

It's still not enforceable under UK law or offered by UK institutions.

The point of the comment is that they are not a very good idea.

You knew that was the point of all of this. Do you really need to feel like you are "winning" something with these curious side-show arguments?

I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon...

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one )

No, you can't under UK law

Bit of an odd micro-victory to go for though

Still no answer I see lol

Well I was wondering why you brought it up but I just wanted to point out again you were incorrect as you can be offered them by lenders based in Europe your just not covered by the FCA

I am starting to feel sorry for you now, candy from a baby springs to mind

I've answered. You didn't get it?

Self-perception is not the most objective method of assessment. It has an inherent bias. So anybody can think that they are anything. It does make it true.

It's their words and deeds that do.

You can get a mortgage from Papua New Guinea if you like.

It's still not enforceable under UK law or offered by UK institutions.

The point of the comment is that they are not a very good idea.

You knew that was the point of all of this. Do you really need to feel like you are "winning" something with these curious side-show arguments?

I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon..."

This is getting a little embarrassing now mate,

Let’s lay that last one out ,,, ok here goes you said “ Trump thinks that he isn't racist too “

So I asked “ Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ?? “

I know it’s actually 2 questions and 1 is quite often a struggle but what you said didn’t answer either question

Good luck this time

And thank you for pointing out you were wrong and I was right about the mortgage thing.

I don’t know a Laxley ?

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon..."

Perverts and perversion.

It is the same perverted mindset you see in the alt-right in the US.

Some wears a hijab, so they must be a supporter of terrorism.

Someone dislikes Laxley, so they must be a supporter of kiddy fiddles.

Someone doesn't like Brexit, so they must hate Britain.

A persistent inability to process the world around them in any other way than one that reinforces their own belief system.

A constant need to protect their own prejudices from external reality by false labelling of others.

Somewhat off the rails.

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"

I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon...

Perverts and perversion.

It is the same perverted mindset you see in the alt-right in the US.

Some wears a hijab, so they must be a supporter of terrorism.

Someone dislikes Laxley, so they must be a supporter of kiddy fiddles.

Someone doesn't like Brexit, so they must hate Britain.

A persistent inability to process the world around them in any other way than one that reinforces their own belief system.

A constant need to protect their own prejudices from external reality by false labelling of others.

Somewhat off the rails."

This is very true and also but also works in reverse too .

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Some might call it the straw man.

When presented with an argument that leads you to question your own bias, some people are capable of rational thought and some are not, preferring instead to shut down their own doubts by falsely articulating the other's argument in the hope no-one notices the vulnerability of their own.

Some are better at it than others.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


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I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon...

Perverts and perversion.

It is the same perverted mindset you see in the alt-right in the US.

Some wears a hijab, so they must be a supporter of terrorism.

Someone dislikes Laxley, so they must be a supporter of kiddy fiddles.

Someone doesn't like Brexit, so they must hate Britain.

A persistent inability to process the world around them in any other way than one that reinforces their own belief system.

A constant need to protect their own prejudices from external reality by false labelling of others.

Somewhat off the rails."

Haven’t you just described the left ?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

The mating call of the left with a huge hint victimhood

Playing the race card, not a single original thought and always the victim

Most don’t hide this at all

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By *uck-RogersMan  over a year ago

Portland

Silence the voice of the victims.

You silence the victims.

To many sheep eating astro turf.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

No one trying to silence anyone even the flakey left have the right to be heard.

Victims always to be heard, I mean the liberal left who claim victim hood because their morning coffee wasn’t quite right and blaming trump for it and that the whole world is against them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes. I cant see any big difference between the countries, with the view on immigration especially now with brexit too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trump - slaps a baby in the face.

Trump supporters - well if you watched closely he actually didn't slap the baby, the baby headbutted his hand.

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home "

What did he say?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?"

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Trump - slaps a baby in the face.

Trump supporters - well if you watched closely he actually didn't slap the baby, the baby headbutted his hand."

Trump - stands still in an empty room and says hello

The left - omg did you see and hear that he’s such a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, kills 15 puppies a day and all round bad guy

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out "

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"The mating call of the left with a huge hint victimhood

Playing the race card, not a single original thought and always the victim

Most don’t hide this at all"

But it was racist?

It seems a bit of a nonsense to call out people for accusing someone of racism, as “playing the race card”.... if the original comment was actually racist.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears...."

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trump - slaps a baby in the face.

Trump supporters - well if you watched closely he actually didn't slap the baby, the baby headbutted his hand.

Trump - stands still in an empty room and says hello

The left - omg did you see and hear that he’s such a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, kills 15 puppies a day and all round bad guy "

The right - make up bullshit story for, call left names, throw toys out the pram.

He has literally fucking written a racist comment on his Twitter by assuming the 4 people of colour were not u.s. born citizens.

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to interpret it the others way.

Which once again is a disctraction from some other controversy he committed.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Trump - slaps a baby in the face.

Trump supporters - well if you watched closely he actually didn't slap the baby, the baby headbutted his hand.

Trump - stands still in an empty room and says hello

The left - omg did you see and hear that he’s such a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, kills 15 puppies a day and all round bad guy

The right - make up bullshit story for, call left names, throw toys out the pram.

He has literally fucking written a racist comment on his Twitter by assuming the 4 people of colour were not u.s. born citizens.

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to interpret it the others way.

Which once again is a disctraction from some other controversy he committed."

Think you misread the tweet sorry mate, you just can’t make up things

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ? "

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out "

You didn't read the tweet before you offered your opinion in the other thread

"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came . Then come back and show us how........it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!"

The "centrist" feels that the line "then come back and show us" implies absolution because racists don't ask people to come back

How is it not racist to say that four US citizens, three of whom born in the country do not come from the US.

They come from the USA don't they? Perhaps you disagree?

So they are in the "totally broken and crime infested places from which they came" presided over by President Donald Trump. They are trying to fix it. That's why they ran for office

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


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But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one )

No, you can't under UK law

Bit of an odd micro-victory to go for though

Still no answer I see lol

Well I was wondering why you brought it up but I just wanted to point out again you were incorrect as you can be offered them by lenders based in Europe your just not covered by the FCA

I am starting to feel sorry for you now, candy from a baby springs to mind

I've answered. You didn't get it?

Self-perception is not the most objective method of assessment. It has an inherent bias. So anybody can think that they are anything. It does make it true.

It's their words and deeds that do.

You can get a mortgage from Papua New Guinea if you like.

It's still not enforceable under UK law or offered by UK institutions.

The point of the comment is that they are not a very good idea.

You knew that was the point of all of this. Do you really need to feel like you are "winning" something with these curious side-show arguments?

I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon...

This is getting a little embarrassing now mate,

Let’s lay that last one out ,,, ok here goes you said “ Trump thinks that he isn't racist too “

So I asked “ Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ?? “

I know it’s actually 2 questions and 1 is quite often a struggle but what you said didn’t answer either question

Good luck this time

And thank you for pointing out you were wrong and I was right about the mortgage thing.

I don’t know a Laxley ?"

Repeating your little lies often enough may help you convince yourself but not others.

Jedi mind tricks would work on you I think

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"No one trying to silence anyone even the flakey left have the right to be heard.

Victims always to be heard, I mean the liberal left who claim victim hood because their morning coffee wasn’t quite right and blaming trump for it and that the whole world is against them "

i am glad that you said "victims need to be heard"..... because that is the one thing "tommeh" almost deprived those people in trials that he almost brought down.... twice.....

remember that when you stand up for him...

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin. "

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

You didn't read the tweet before you offered your opinion in the other thread

"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came . Then come back and show us how........it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!"

The "centrist" feels that the line "then come back and show us" implies absolution because racists don't ask people to come back

How is it not racist to say that four US citizens, three of whom born in the country do not come from the US.

They come from the USA don't they? Perhaps you disagree?

So they are in the "totally broken and crime infested places from which they came" presided over by President Donald Trump. They are trying to fix it. That's why they ran for office "

Hey hiya it’s the little question avoiding leftist guy.

Hiya hope your well x

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no "

Both statements are racist.

So you are saying that telling someone with a different ethnicity to the wider population to go back to where they came from is not racist?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"

How is it not racist to say that four US citizens, three of whom born in the country do not come from the US?

They come from the USA don't they? Perhaps you disagree?

Hey hiya it’s the little question avoiding leftist guy.

Hiya hope your well x"

Well done on your question answering

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

But in the U.K. if you cause anxiety to a child grooming gang. You get put in prison.

A Tommy Robinson fan.

Just like Katie Hopkins.

Another character from the fringes of extremity.

Whom Trump has now decided to re-tweet.

Just like Britain First.

You can tell the character of someone by the company they keep.

Vile.

Bit surprised you support child grooming gangs, but up to you I guess

What a despicable thing to say, alas the type of thing we have become accustomed to from the morons that support and believe in Tommeh Robinson.

Most intelligent, or even those with half a brain cell realise that Tommeh hasn't uncovered a single case of child grooming, all he has done is broken reporting restrictions and put at risk the prosecution of other suspects. The morons that support his actions would have been pleased if other suspects in the case had had their cases thrown out of court due to their solicitors claiming unfair trials because of his actions...

That is all Yaxley Lennon has done, put at risk the prosecution, they had already been arrested and charged and were part way through prosecution... He did nothing positive whatsoever.

Those of us that detest the septic little stump do not support child abuse, we abhor it, unlike Yaxley Lennon, we abhor all child abuse and not just that carried out by Muslims. As his continued support of his mates who have been caught with child abuse images on their computers, he doesn't care about that child abuse, just who commits those offences if they happen to be Muslim.

Who’s yaxley or tommeh ? And I didn’t mention Muslim,, just going by what was said by the other person

Ah yes. The "centrist"

Every new post from you makes it very clear that you aren't.

There is some absolutely massive cognitive dissonance going on in your head that allows you to convince yourself that you are in some way moderate in your views. Is that's what makes you so noisy and incoherent?

Ahh the left leaning left guy on the far left

The one who can’t open his mind to different opinion and instantly knows everyone everywhere and what’s best for everyone

I hope your well x

You are a teenaged boy aren't you?

Awww bless is this not going the way you hoped sweet cheeks x

So just explain why you think that Yaxley Lennon is "misunderstood".

Like Trump's racism?

Who Yaxley ?

If you remember correctly I’m against racism

I've seen no evidence of that.

Trump thinks that he isn't racist too

Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ??

Words and deeds.

They used to let people self-certify their mortgages too

Ok still avoiding questions I see lol

And you can still get self-certify mortgages

Not very good at this are you ? ( don’t worry you don’t need to answer that one )

No, you can't under UK law

Bit of an odd micro-victory to go for though

Still no answer I see lol

Well I was wondering why you brought it up but I just wanted to point out again you were incorrect as you can be offered them by lenders based in Europe your just not covered by the FCA

I am starting to feel sorry for you now, candy from a baby springs to mind

I've answered. You didn't get it?

Self-perception is not the most objective method of assessment. It has an inherent bias. So anybody can think that they are anything. It does make it true.

It's their words and deeds that do.

You can get a mortgage from Papua New Guinea if you like.

It's still not enforceable under UK law or offered by UK institutions.

The point of the comment is that they are not a very good idea.

You knew that was the point of all of this. Do you really need to feel like you are "winning" something with these curious side-show arguments?

I still don't know why you think that anyone on this thread supports paedophiles if they think that Yaxley-Lennon is a goon...

This is getting a little embarrassing now mate,

Let’s lay that last one out ,,, ok here goes you said “ Trump thinks that he isn't racist too “

So I asked “ Don’t all people who are not racist think that ???

Strange do you think your not racist ?? “

I know it’s actually 2 questions and 1 is quite often a struggle but what you said didn’t answer either question

Good luck this time

And thank you for pointing out you were wrong and I was right about the mortgage thing.

I don’t know a Laxley ?

Repeating your little lies often enough may help you convince yourself but not others.

Jedi mind tricks would work on you I think "

O wow still 2 questions avoided again, I’m tempted to ask a 3rd and go for the record lol

Any other inaccurate mortgage statements tonight ?

Love the super far left, so basic

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Both statements are racist.

So you are saying that telling someone with a different ethnicity to the wider population to go back to where they came from is not racist? "

Lol that’s not what was said or even in context , that’s weak even for you ,, wow

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

How is it not racist to say that four US citizens, three of whom born in the country do not come from the US?

They come from the USA don't they? Perhaps you disagree?

Hey hiya it’s the little question avoiding leftist guy.

Hiya hope your well x

Well done on your question answering "

Lol I must be learning from the leftist master ,, any news on my 2 questions buddy ? x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Do all rights just start posting nonsense when proven wrong or is it just you @PrettyGood

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"No one trying to silence anyone even the flakey left have the right to be heard.

Victims always to be heard, I mean the liberal left who claim victim hood because their morning coffee wasn’t quite right and blaming trump for it and that the whole world is against them

i am glad that you said "victims need to be heard"..... because that is the one thing "tommeh" almost deprived those people in trials that he almost brought down.... twice.....

remember that when you stand up for him..."

Who ??

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Both statements are racist.

So you are saying that telling someone with a different ethnicity to the wider population to go back to where they came from is not racist?

Lol that’s not what was said or even in context , that’s weak even for you ,, wow"

Wow indeed. You know that people can just scroll up and read the Tweets in context.

There are several pretty right wing people in this forum.

Have you noticed how lonely your shrill voice is on this?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Both statements are racist.

So you are saying that telling someone with a different ethnicity to the wider population to go back to where they came from is not racist?

Lol that’s not what was said or even in context , that’s weak even for you ,, wow

Wow indeed. You know that people can just scroll up and read the Tweets in context.

There are several pretty right wing people in this forum.

Have you noticed how lonely your shrill voice is on this?"

Hey look if you want to deliberately look for racism in every comment or statement made in the world ever by everyone ever I’m sure you could find it, just don’t think you should be that narrow minded dude , don’t live in hate live in love

Just going on the words and context without spin I’m afraid it’s not what your looking for

Just get a hug of someone close it will make you feel better

Any news on my 2 questions? .......... lol

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Do all rights just start posting nonsense when proven wrong or is it just you @PrettyGood

"

Proven wrong ??? Lol leftist facts strikes again , guys just stop the hate ,, love is far better

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no "

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion."

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda"

'So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen...'

It's all about the words right?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

'So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen...'

It's all about the words right? "

Hey mr socialist is back woo hoo

See where I mentioned that it was in my opinion, I’m assuming you seen that but thought it was worth pointing out as I know your blind to some things

You try and state your personal opinions as facts. That’s the difference sweet cheeks.

Love not hate remember x

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda"

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?"

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?"

Because, in the minds of the alt-right, wearing a hijab is sufficient grounds to suspect someone of supporting Sharia law, of supporting Al Q etc etc.

This is the level that Trump and his chumps have stooped to.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

Because, in the minds of the alt-right, wearing a hijab is sufficient grounds to suspect someone of supporting Sharia law, of supporting Al Q etc etc.

This is the level that Trump and his chumps have stooped to.

"

Name calling lol well played that always works lol

May want to watch a few vids and read some interviews about the topic as it’s out there

But I guess your friends or fb didn’t mention it

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate"

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away...."

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you progress with the idea he meant go back to the USA... Then he also said the USA governments is a complete and total catastrophe. The worst most corrupt anywhere. If they have a functioning government at all.

That sounds unamerican to me. Traitor.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"If you progress with the idea he meant go back to the USA... Then he also said the USA governments is a complete and total catastrophe. The worst most corrupt anywhere. If they have a functioning government at all.

That sounds unamerican to me. Traitor. "

Fair point and going by the word he used for 3 of them yes I suppose your right

but racist no

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions "

I have answered you.

He was clearly referring to all of them, which is why he said “women’ and “they”.

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

That he referred to them coming back does not magically make that sentiment any less racist.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions

I have answered you.

He was clearly referring to all of them, which is why he said “women’ and “they”.

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

That he referred to them coming back does not magically make that sentiment any less racist."

Strange, did he mention colour at all ? Don’t worry the answer is no

So that’s cleared

Ok so now he’s guessing there country of origin ( even though he knows 3 are US born ) so with that logic and with no reference of colour if I say your Brazilian does that mean I’m racist ? Again no

Also I’m pretty certain no racist ever has said ( now don’t forget he never said “go home” or “ go back to where you came from” ) go back then come back, have they ? Again No

Sure you want it to be racist but that dosent make it racist sorry

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


" but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda"

two things....

1) the standing up for al qaeda thing in not true and has never been true, thats one of those alt-right tropes trump has picked up on...

if she is an unpatriotic as people are painting her, why would she be the one to co-sponsor the 9/11 first responders bill to get their medical bills paid for life....

2) trump criticised america a shed load when he was not president... he seems to be suffering from selective amnesia....

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


" but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

two things....

1) the standing up for al qaeda thing in not true and has never been true, thats one of those alt-right tropes trump has picked up on...

if she is an unpatriotic as people are painting her, why would she be the one to co-sponsor the 9/11 first responders bill to get their medical bills paid for life....

2) trump criticised america a shed load when he was not president... he seems to be suffering from selective amnesia...."

Hay I’m not sticking up for trump in general he’s a dic, I’m just saying the tweet wasnt racist that’s all, plenty of other things they can go after him for and most likely rightly so.

In all honesty there are vids and interviews online now that confirms what I’m saying about Ilhan,, do I like or dislike here ? Neither I couldn’t care less this is simply about his tweet

USA trump Ilhan aoc Clinton dems or republicans don’t really have any effect on my life, I simply saw people go off on something I don’t think is correct just because of hate, so I like to debate that issue, especially on the topic of racism that has no place on this earth

Understand people have different views this is just mine

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the tweet was racist and offensive, you don't get to decide how the intended targets get to see it......

if you have ever been on the receiving end of the "go home/go back to" insult... you will know how if feels (spoiler: not good)

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions

I have answered you.

He was clearly referring to all of them, which is why he said “women’ and “they”.

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

That he referred to them coming back does not magically make that sentiment any less racist.

Strange, did he mention colour at all ? Don’t worry the answer is no

So that’s cleared

Ok so now he’s guessing there country of origin ( even though he knows 3 are US born ) so with that logic and with no reference of colour if I say your Brazilian does that mean I’m racist ? Again no

Also I’m pretty certain no racist ever has said ( now don’t forget he never said “go home” or “ go back to where you came from” ) go back then come back, have they ? Again No

Sure you want it to be racist but that dosent make it racist sorry"

He didn’t need to do explicitly say it. It was clearly implied by his ridiculous description of where they were from.

Again, sarcastically saying that about coming back does not magically undo the racism in what he said.

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"the tweet was racist and offensive, you don't get to decide how the intended targets get to see it......

if you have ever been on the receiving end of the "go home/go back to" insult... you will know how if feels (spoiler: not good)

"

Exactly the same as you all we both can have is opinions

Honestly also no I haven’t been on the end of that as such ( as I’m guessing welsh jokes don’t count lol ) and hate the idea of anyone having to go through it, I just can’t see how go back then come back falls into this.

If it is racist it sounds very understanding and tolerant telling them to come back

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions

I have answered you.

He was clearly referring to all of them, which is why he said “women’ and “they”.

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

That he referred to them coming back does not magically make that sentiment any less racist.

Strange, did he mention colour at all ? Don’t worry the answer is no

So that’s cleared

Ok so now he’s guessing there country of origin ( even though he knows 3 are US born ) so with that logic and with no reference of colour if I say your Brazilian does that mean I’m racist ? Again no

Also I’m pretty certain no racist ever has said ( now don’t forget he never said “go home” or “ go back to where you came from” ) go back then come back, have they ? Again No

Sure you want it to be racist but that dosent make it racist sorry

He didn’t need to do explicitly say it. It was clearly implied by his ridiculous description of where they were from.

Again, sarcastically saying that about coming back does not magically undo the racism in what he said.

"

Finally we agree he didn’t “ explicitly say it “ so your just guessing what was implied. Hope you can understand that guessing on such serious issues is very damaging for all.

No ?? Surly asking someone to come back is the opposite of what racists are meant to say isn’t it ??

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

enjoyed this thread.

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions

I have answered you.

He was clearly referring to all of them, which is why he said “women’ and “they”.

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

That he referred to them coming back does not magically make that sentiment any less racist.

Strange, did he mention colour at all ? Don’t worry the answer is no

So that’s cleared

Ok so now he’s guessing there country of origin ( even though he knows 3 are US born ) so with that logic and with no reference of colour if I say your Brazilian does that mean I’m racist ? Again no

Also I’m pretty certain no racist ever has said ( now don’t forget he never said “go home” or “ go back to where you came from” ) go back then come back, have they ? Again No

Sure you want it to be racist but that dosent make it racist sorry

He didn’t need to do explicitly say it. It was clearly implied by his ridiculous description of where they were from.

Again, sarcastically saying that about coming back does not magically undo the racism in what he said.

Finally we agree he didn’t “ explicitly say it “ so your just guessing what was implied. Hope you can understand that guessing on such serious issues is very damaging for all.

No ?? Surly asking someone to come back is the opposite of what racists are meant to say isn’t it ?? "

Well, to be fair it doesn’t take much to work it out.

Where do you think he meant he thought they should go?

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By *entish79Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"the tweet was racist and offensive, you don't get to decide how the intended targets get to see it......

if you have ever been on the receiving end of the "go home/go back to" insult... you will know how if feels (spoiler: not good)

Exactly the same as you all we both can have is opinions

Honestly also no I haven’t been on the end of that as such ( as I’m guessing welsh jokes don’t count lol ) and hate the idea of anyone having to go through it, I just can’t see how go back then come back falls into this.

If it is racist it sounds very understanding and tolerant telling them to come back"

This isn’t complicated.

Three of them were born in the US, so where were they supposed to be going?

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"He didn’t say go home

What did he say?

Maybe you should read the tweet to find out

Well that’s not really in the spirit of a community forum.

Was to go back where they came from?

If you’d like to talk more about how the meaning really differs between the two, where one is unacceptable and the other is pretty much OK, then I’m all ears....

Ok well with out going through lots of messages , does a racist usually ask them to come back ?

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so is an US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??

2 questions there for you mate ?

Stupid idiotic tweet yes, racist no

Yes, the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin, was racist.

In virtually everyone’s opinion.

O wow that must make it right then lol

Don’t want to answer the questions??

One wasn’t born in the US and that’s who I think the tweet was aimed at really ( of course just guessing ) but it was her that criticises America and stands up for al-qaeda

Except he said “women”, not “woman”.

And “they”, not “she”.

How has she criticised America, and how does she stand up for al-qaeda exactly?

You may need to do a little research yourself there dude, might learn a few things instead of relying on word of mouth or fb

And yes he did say that, and leads me back to the questions I asked you previously that you haven’t answered?

Can ask them again if your not following this very well, just ask mate

I guess I’d be interested to hear why you thought that. Because I’m pretty sure she has done no such thing.

Yeah sure, ask away....

Ok well I think that as I’ve read the interviews and seen the vids, but guess you haven’t looked

Ok back to the questions from before

“Ok well one of the 4 wasn’t US Born and his tweet asked her to come back ,,,, so dont avoid the question, is that racist ???

Ok the other 3 are US born so if a US citizen tells a US citizen to go back while in the US and to come back to US is that racist ??”

Of course please go through the rest of the treat for the context of the questions

I have answered you.

He was clearly referring to all of them, which is why he said “women’ and “they”.

The racism was in the ridiculous insinuation that their country of origin was somewhere other than the US, based on the colour of their skin.

That he referred to them coming back does not magically make that sentiment any less racist.

Strange, did he mention colour at all ? Don’t worry the answer is no

So that’s cleared

Ok so now he’s guessing there country of origin ( even though he knows 3 are US born ) so with that logic and with no reference of colour if I say your Brazilian does that mean I’m racist ? Again no

Also I’m pretty certain no racist ever has said ( now don’t forget he never said “go home” or “ go back to where you came from” ) go back then come back, have they ? Again No

Sure you want it to be racist but that dosent make it racist sorry

He didn’t need to do explicitly say it. It was clearly implied by his ridiculous description of where they were from.

Again, sarcastically saying that about coming back does not magically undo the racism in what he said.

Finally we agree he didn’t “ explicitly say it “ so your just guessing what was implied. Hope you can understand that guessing on such serious issues is very damaging for all.

No ?? Surly asking someone to come back is the opposite of what racists are meant to say isn’t it ??

Well, to be fair it doesn’t take much to work it out.

Where do you think he meant he thought they should go?"

Sooooo to be clear you are just guessing then ? Ok that sounds fair, maybe if not already you should become a lawyer, o no they deal in facts

Maybe a left wing politician then

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By *retty GoodMan  over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"the tweet was racist and offensive, you don't get to decide how the intended targets get to see it......

if you have ever been on the receiving end of the "go home/go back to" insult... you will know how if feels (spoiler: not good)

Exactly the same as you all we both can have is opinions

Honestly also no I haven’t been on the end of that as such ( as I’m guessing welsh jokes don’t count lol ) and hate the idea of anyone having to go through it, I just can’t see how go back then come back falls into this.

If it is racist it sounds very understanding and tolerant telling them to come back

This isn’t complicated.

Three of them were born in the US, so where were they supposed to be going?

"

You like to speculate so you tell me where you think ?

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