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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

No, not in China.

St Peter's Field in Manchester.

Exactly 200 years ago today.

Peaceful citizens protesting about the lack of representation.

18 killed and 100s injured when the British ruling class turned the troops on them.

Slaughtered.

Because they wanted democracy.

But you won't see the Establishment holding a commemoration.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

JC has a bit about it, posted on his fb

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No, not in China.

St Peter's Field in Manchester.

Exactly 200 years ago today.

Peaceful citizens protesting about the lack of representation.

18 killed and 100s injured when the British ruling class turned the troops on them.

Slaughtered.

Because they wanted democracy.

But you won't see the Establishment holding a commemoration.

"

Have you seen the film, great acting but so depressing to watch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Think that is probably gonna be about as good as it gets lol

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Funnily enough, 100 years ago this year was the closest the British ruling class ever came to being overthrown.

The Army was mutinying, the police were on strike, the dockers were on strike, the railways were about to go on strike and there was talk of a General Strike.

Lloyd George called in the leader of the TUC and said, if they went ahead, they needed to be ready to step in and form a government.

Now, some in the labour movement wanted a soviet to be set up but, generally, most just wanted better pay, better housing etc.

The TUC didn't want a revolution either.

After some brutal confrontations, not least in George Square in Glasgow when Churchill had his tanks occupying the city centre, he Government eventually came up with some extra money and promises of reform.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The same thing is happening in France now, and has been for 6 months.

Nothing on TV about it I wonder why, oh it's in the EU.

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By *uck-RogersMan  over a year ago

Portland


"The same thing is happening in France now, and has been for 6 months.

Nothing on TV about it I wonder why, oh it's in the EU. "

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By *kcoupleCouple  over a year ago

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"The same thing is happening in France now, and has been for 6 months.

Nothing on TV about it I wonder why, oh it's in the EU. "

It's all over the tv and Frances own tv stations cover it daily with updates on the yellow vest protests. Say what you like about the EU but they certainly don't suppress the media. If one chooses to look then the reports are there

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

In the North West this has been well publisised and was tought to us in school although not on the corriculum at the time

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"No, not in China.

St Peter's Field in Manchester.

Exactly 200 years ago today.

Peaceful citizens protesting about the lack of representation.

18 killed and 100s injured when the British ruling class turned the troops on them.

Slaughtered.

Because they wanted democracy.

But you won't see the Establishment holding a commemoration.

Have you seen the film, great acting but so depressing to watch "

Anything with the gorgeous Maxine Peake in it, gets my attention.

Wouldn't throw her out of bed if she farted!

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Funnily enough, 100 years ago this year was the closest the British ruling class ever came to being overthrown.

The Army was mutinying, the police were on strike, the dockers were on strike, the railways were about to go on strike and there was talk of a General Strike.

Lloyd George called in the leader of the TUC and said, if they went ahead, they needed to be ready to step in and form a government.

Now, some in the labour movement wanted a soviet to be set up but, generally, most just wanted better pay, better housing etc.

The TUC didn't want a revolution either.

After some brutal confrontations, not least in George Square in Glasgow when Churchill had his tanks occupying the city centre, he Government eventually came up with some extra money and promises of reform.

"

What bloody nonsense.

No tanks were deployed in George Sq.

The Sheriff of Lanarkshire called in the military, not Churchill.

Go buy a history book.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The Sheriff did not have the power to call in the military.

He sent a request to the Cabinet, where the War Committee considered it. Churchill attended.

The War Committee agreed to place troops on standby in case of further trouble (not least because the prospect of a railway strike would paralyse all transport).

They went in once the Riot Act was read in George Square.

The presence of tanks in Glasgow is disputed.

Some say the image often used from 12 months earlier.

Manny Shinwell in his memoirs says the tanks went in during the 1919 troubles.

Certainly, it is not disputed there were machine gun posts around the city chambers.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The troops barracked in Glasgow were confined to barracks, lest they join the side of the strikers. The troops came in from other parts of Scotland.

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The Sheriff did not have the power to call in the military.

He sent a request to the Cabinet, where the War Committee considered it. Churchill attended.

The War Committee agreed to place troops on standby in case of further trouble (not least because the prospect of a railway strike would paralyse all transport).

They went in once the Riot Act was read in George Square.

The presence of tanks in Glasgow is disputed.

Some say the image often used from 12 months earlier.

Manny Shinwell in his memoirs says the tanks went in during the 1919 troubles.

Certainly, it is not disputed there were machine gun posts around the city chambers.

"

So the "fact" you presented in your earlier post is now "disputed"

At the request of the Sheriff of Lanarkshire the war committee agreed to send the (albeit unused) military.

Why didn't you name any other member of the war committee? You could have singled out the Liberal David Lloyd George (after all he was PM at the time) But no, none of that would have suited your socialist Tory bashing wank fest agenda.

So it was the war co

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Oh and just in case you had forgotten (or more likely didn't know in the first place). Churchill was actually a member of the Liberal party in 1919.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

I gave a summary.

The military were deployed in Glasgow.

For several days.

Churchill was the Minister for War and Aviation at the time, I think.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Oh dear, you seem to be in a very rude mood today.

Period pains?

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Oh dear, you seem to be in a very rude mood today.

Period pains?

"

People twisting and re-writing history to suit a political agenda always brings out the worst in me.

I remember reading somewhere (around the time of the referendum) that the EU was employing professional trolls to hijack internet forums.

I'm pretty sure we had a couple of them on here. Spent around 6 months clogging up the forum with EU propaganda then promptly went UNLOS the day after the result.

Maybe other organisations have now picked up on the idea.

The green arrow is your friend.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Feel free to write an essay about events of Glasgow in 1919.

Not sure it'll be a best-seller on a website for swingers though.

It was a summary, no more.

Aside from the disputed tanks story, all you have done is try to politicise the post and smear it.

Goodness knows why.

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Feel free to write an essay about events of Glasgow in 1919.

Not sure it'll be a best-seller on a website for swingers though.

It was a summary, no more.

Aside from the disputed tanks story, all you have done is try to politicise the post and smear it.

Goodness knows why.

"

Yes it is a swinger site.

I'm surprised you had noticed.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Talking of reading material, I can recommend a couple of books I've just finished:

1919 - Britain's Year of Revolution by Simon Webb

Glasgow 1919 by Kenny MacAskill (former Scottish Justice Minister)

You might learn some new stuff.

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Talking of reading material, I can recommend a couple of books I've just finished:

1919 - Britain's Year of Revolution by Simon Webb

Glasgow 1919 by Kenny MacAskill (former Scottish Justice Minister)

You might learn some new stuff.

"

Judging by the amount of time you spend on here, I'm surprised you got past the foreward.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS  over a year ago

Ayr


"No, not in China.

St Peter's Field in Manchester.

Exactly 200 years ago today.

Peaceful citizens protesting about the lack of representation.

18 killed and 100s injured when the British ruling class turned the troops on them.

Slaughtered.

Because they wanted democracy.

But you won't see the Establishment holding a commemoration.

"

Yep. 200 years ago, the Tory government were a shower of cunts.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

All the important rights we now enjoy had to be fought for - against their resistance.

It's always been their way.

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"No, not in China.

St Peter's Field in Manchester.

Exactly 200 years ago today.

Peaceful citizens protesting about the lack of representation.

18 killed and 100s injured when the British ruling class turned the troops on them.

Slaughtered.

Because they wanted democracy.

But you won't see the Establishment holding a commemoration.

Yep. 200 years ago, the Tory government were a shower of cunts.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

All the important rights we now enjoy had to be fought for - against their resistance.

It's always been their way."

This thread gets more and more hilarious by the minute.

Tell you what. Them there Romans were a bunch of cunts as well, and just don't get me on about the fucking vikings.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

The Vikings gave us red hair and freckles.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

Judging by the amount of time you spend on here, I'm surprised you got past the foreward."

Passes the time in between sex and reading books

.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"The Vikings gave us red hair and freckles.

"

And the wonderful ShagTonight

Interesting coverage and revealing reflections here.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, this post is about people who fought for the democracy and justice we take for granted today.

Yet some want to trash them, as if it has no relevance somehow.

Er, where did your vote come from, your right to this, your right to that?

Do you think the establishment woke up one morning and said, of, i tell you what, I am feeling generous, lets give people this or that?

No, people gave blood, sweat and tears, their lives, for what we have today.

The struggle goes on.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

Viva la revolución, baby

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Newbury

Glasgow, Tonypandy, the General Strike - all of these were reasons why everyone I've met of the WW2 generation hated Churchill.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

He was a brutal b*stard, which is why he was so suited to wartime and an existential threat. Peacetime he was a useless t*sser.

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