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No Well done to the Yanks and Trump?
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Why congratulate Trump? Was he the SEAL team leader? Did he plan the mission? Has he spent the last however many years tracking down Bagdadie? Or is Trump taking credit for something he had nothing to do with?
Maybe we should listen to 2011 Trump who said Obama played no part in the death of Bin Ladin and should get no praise for it. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Maybe we should listen to 2011 Trump who said Obama played no part in the death of Bin Ladin and should get no praise for it."
Only a few weeks ago he was tweeting how the USA alone had destroyed 100% of ISIS
(No mention of Kurds, Russians, British or anyone else)
And here he is now purring at taking out the leader of an organisation that he himself had declared no longer existed.
Hmmm.
Reports in the US media, citing military sources who say the operation was a success in spite of Trump, not because of him, after his sudden betrayal wrecked the intelligence-sharing with the Kurds that was behind it.
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over a year ago
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"When the yanks voted in Trump 3 yrs ago , there were experts on here saying he would blow up the world etc.
They have since made more peace than wars and have ISIS on their knees.
Well done."
Yes well done. And well done to Obama for killing bin laden  |
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over a year ago
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Do I hold Trump personally responsible? Do I hold Obama personally responsible? Do I fuck. They just happen/ed to be in power when the intelligence network narrowed down their locations.
Do I hold US and British politicians for the events that led to the creation of AlQaeda and IS in the first place? Yes I do.
So forgive me if I don't want to pay anyone bar the armed forces and intelligence operatives for doing their jobs.
If Trump accidentally took himself out, I may break into applause. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"They did a good job with isis.yep creating it in the 1980s to fight the Russians in Afghanistan realy sound thought out plan .nearly as hoid as creating and funding the Taliban "
Yes, I'd forgotten about the Mujahideen that spawned Al Q, armed and financed by the US and NATO.
Reminds me of one of those questions of the political compass thread - my enemy's friend is my friend.
Er, no.
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"They did a good job with isis.yep creating it in the 1980s to fight the Russians in Afghanistan realy sound thought out plan .nearly as hoid as creating and funding the Taliban
Yes, I'd forgotten about the Mujahideen that spawned Al Q, armed and financed by the US and NATO.
Reminds me of one of those questions of the political compass thread - my enemy's friend is my friend.
Er, no.
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I thought of the EXACT same scenario.. I thought of the Kurds too.
My enemies enemy isn't necessarily my friend.
If I were a rebel in my own country (and that country wasnt the UK), the last hand of friendship I'd accept would be British or American. We've a history of fucking them over once the job is done, or things start to look dicey.
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"My enemy's enemy is my friend, not my enemy's friend.
Too much vino tinto
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Tinto verano.. you should try that, red wine and fanta limon.. sounds awful, but a great drink in warmer climates. |
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As John Oliver said on his latest show, the Kurds have fought in two wars alongside US troops - which is more than Donald Trump ever fucking did.
Being in harm's way isn't his thing. He deserves nothing but ridicule and scorn; and it's sickening to see how he gets neither from our government. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"My enemy's enemy is my friend, not my enemy's friend.
Too much vino tinto
Tinto verano.. you should try that, red wine and fanta limon.. sounds awful, but a great drink in warmer climates."
I asked the barman for a double entendre.
So he gave me one.
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I hear the whole operation was a rush job. Because the hidden result of Trump shitting on the USA's Kurdish allies (and the rest of the West following Uncle Sam and also dumped on the Kurds). The USA and the West no longer have on the ground intelligence assets in either Syria or Iraq. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm surprised there is no post giving Trump grief or even phrase for wiping out Baghdadi ?"
Interesting comment, seeing as isis was created by American foreign policy going back to meddling in the middle/far eadt for decades and killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people, and destabilising the region, contributing to the refugees entering Europe...
The world is a much more dangerous place now thanks in part to trump. "gee thanks trump!, whoopeee (fucking) dooo".  |
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