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Lying about the pill the same as Stealthing ?
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So we all know Stealthing is when someone removes the condom with out consent therefore comes under the category of R*** because the consent was only with a condom but I wonder if women lying saying they are on contraception but actually are not should come under a similar umbrella or at least be frowned upon ?
Recently seen some threads about breeding where a woman not only didn’t tell multiple sexual partners that she was no longer on the pill but went and got pregnant an isn’t going to tell any of them let alone find out who the father is.
I think this is very irresponsible!
It’s hard to police in the sense you can literally see or feel a condom but you can’t know if someone is actually on any contraceptive short of seeing them take it in front of you.
Thoughts people ?
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Sadly, as you said, you can't physically tell whether a woman is taking oral contraceptives or not (you can sometimes feel the strings of the coil). You just have to trust the woman, or insist on condoms when having penetrative sex.
However, I would say (or at least hope) it's much less likely for a woman to want to get pregnant with a random guy than a guy not willing to wear a condom, for whatever reason. |
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It's a funny old thing. Stealthing is under law r@pe. However a female lying about contraceptive is not an offence. Even if consent is given only on that provision. Neither is it r@pe if a man lies about a vasectomy even if a womans consent was given with that provisions. Same as say someone has sex with you on the provisions you're not a Reform supporter and you lied and are or say on a false narrative of your wealth. The law is base on the immediate action not the consequences of the sex. By stealthing you are penetrating someone with something in a physical form they have not consented too. The same as say if you penetrated them with a large toy when they explicitly only consented to fingers.
Now obviously many may see the law as unfair on this. After all the consequences of unwanted pregnancy that would have been avoided if people were truthful are significant and life changing. However that is were we stand legally. As can you imagine there were be some serious legal upheaval if to law was to take in that consent is not given when people lie in general.
However one could argue if you changed the law it to include this to it would still be all academical to some extent. With the evidence and burden of proof to successfully convict on such a r@pe/sexual assault case I'd see very few convictions of women who do this anyway.
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Both, if deliberate are abhorrent.
However, stealthing is more obvious than a women not taking a pill.
If your concerned, assume the worst and hope the best. Always wrap up unless your 100 percent willing for the consequences that come from unprotected sex.
For me, I'm on the depo injection, and when having casual sex... I always always reach down and double check I can feel the condom in place before intercourse.
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I'd say that it's the woman's right to choose what to do with her body and her life.
It's no easy choice to be pregnant and raise a child so I'd hope that she has thought it all through and is prepared.
The men with breeding fantasies shock me more as I'm certain that they are not thinking of everything involved in bringing up a child. |
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I think both are wrong, tricking others to get what you want.
But, if I was a man, there's no way I'd take a woman's word alone that she's using contraception.
As we know people on here lie unfortunately and have their own agendas.
So, I do think if you willingly play bare,you are risking pregnancy and have to be OK with that as a consequence. |
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By (user no longer on site) 13 weeks ago
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Nope it shouldn't. Even the pill can fail (our youngest proves that). I have sex, I am responsible for sti and pregnancy possibilities. No matter what a lady says. I choose in that moment to risk for a thrill, I then have to take the consequences. |
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Back in my 30s once I had my own children and new I did not wish to have more,and also new I liked this life style I got vasectomy
Does not stop me having safe sex etc just I know I not get phone call I am pregnant and it might be yours
New a girl in my teenage years that tried to trap boyfriend by saying she was on pill. |
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A mate of mine recently had a woman he met on Tinder try to ‘honey trap’ him with a pregnancy scare.
He hadn’t mentioned beforehand he’s had the snip 🤭
I asked him for her number, because I’m a ‘Jaffa’ too….😋 |
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"A mate of mine recently had a woman he met on Tinder try to ‘honey trap’ him with a pregnancy scare.
He hadn’t mentioned beforehand he’s had the snip 🤭
I asked him for her number, because I’m a ‘Jaffa’ too….😋"
Yeah I know a few women not from here but from normal vanilla life that have purposely got pregnant to get their fella to marry them and sometimes it’s worked and sometimes they have ended up being single mums.
It just shows both sexes are equally untrustworthy sometimes. |
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As the pill is not 100% effective then if you are a responsible individual who is not ready to impregnate someone then you should always insist on wearing a condom. At the end of the day we are all responsible for our own safety in regards to sex |
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By *eyeYCouple 12 weeks ago
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An abhorrent practice, D has a daughter from such manipulative behaviour and had 10 years of being excluded from his child's life, whilst paying religiously.
This was while in a 6 year relationship, so any on a soapbox preaching it's the man's fault, sorry I've seen the devastation it can cause..
So yes it is akin to stealthing, but by what means is a guy protected? 😡 |
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By *oelMan 12 weeks ago
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I think there is an unevenness due to the impact which is more on a woman. As this results in her carrying a child or getting pregnant.
There is always more of an impact on life to the woman, which I think why it is uneven |
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By *eyeYCouple 12 weeks ago
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And I may add, this was after 4 years of them being exclusive and having unprotected sex, he was told 4 different stories of how she became pregnant via mutual friends whilst pressuring him for marriage.. 🤔
Just to be clear for those who may discount his experience x
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By *eyeYCouple 12 weeks ago
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"I think there is an unevenness due to the impact which is more on a woman. As this results in her carrying a child or getting pregnant.
There is always more of an impact on life to the woman, which I think why it is uneven "
You are correct, however there are just as many women with hidden agenda's out there.
He decided to have the snip, because of his experience.
Unfortunately a decision I wish he'd not made, but respect why and we have a 'blended' family with a lot of love, regardless of mutual kids.. ☺️😘 |
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