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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if you try it and do then presumably you are bi?

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

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By *irtyAndCh33kyCouple  over a year ago

North Wales

As a bi couple we're very comfortable and confident in our sexuality....if others don't like it then tough!

Mrs Dirty

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As a bi couple we're very comfortable and confident in our sexuality....if others don't like it then tough!

Mrs Dirty "

well said.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Apparently, bi men can't jump as high as straight men. I read this on a post on another thread. It could be a reason or at least a factor to consider when people decide whether or not to meet a bi guy. I certainly don't know any bi high jumpers so it may be true.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its not a phobia at all. It is simply preference.

We have no problems with guys being bi or gay but we are not interested in playing with them.

Equally there are people on here interested in pissing, bondage etc which we are not much interested in either.

As for labels - they are a useful place to start in the absence of any other knowledge about a person.

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By *orthyorkypairCouple  over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Its not a phobia at all. It is simply preference.

We have no problems with guys being bi or gay but we are not interested in playing with them.

Equally there are people on here interested in pissing, bondage etc which we are not much interested in either.

As for labels - they are a useful place to start in the absence of any other knowledge about a person."

this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if oyou try it and do then presumably you are bi?

I know this is probably wrong but as soon as I see "bicurious" I think "probable timewaster"

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

"

Probably wrong but when I read bicurious I think "probable timewaster"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Apparently, bi men can't jump as high as straight men. I read this on a post on another thread. It could be a reason or at least a factor to consider when people decide whether or not to meet a bi guy. I certainly don't know any bi high jumpers so it may be true. "

Brilliant thank you!! Made me laugh

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By *extoysareusCouple  over a year ago

kinky heaven


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if you try it and do then presumably you are bi?

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

"

You've just labelled yourself and other people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if oyou try it and do then presumably you are bi?

I know this is probably wrong but as soon as I see "bicurious" I think "probable timewaster"

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

Probably wrong but when I read bicurious I think "probable timewaster" "

I shall note myself as a timewaster on my profile!

Out of interest OP - who exactly says that bi-curious is ok but bi isn't?

From my experience those not wishing to play with bi men see both as one and the same!

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By *eganWhoWoman  over a year ago

Borders


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if oyou try it and do then presumably you are bi?

What

I know this is probably wrong but as soon as I see "bicurious" I think "probable timewaster"

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

Probably wrong but when I read bicurious I think "probable timewaster"

I shall note myself as a timewaster on my profile!

Out of interest OP - who exactly says that bi-curious is ok but bi isn't?

From my experience those not wishing to play with bi men see both as one and the same! "

Because apparently bi men are diseased. Never mind the actual statistics that say thats its the over 40s straights that have higher disease rates

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if oyou try it and do then presumably you are bi?

What

I know this is probably wrong but as soon as I see "bicurious" I think "probable timewaster"

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

Probably wrong but when I read bicurious I think "probable timewaster"

I shall note myself as a timewaster on my profile!

Out of interest OP - who exactly says that bi-curious is ok but bi isn't?

From my experience those not wishing to play with bi men see both as one and the same!

Because apparently bi men are diseased. Never mind the actual statistics that say thats its the over 40s straights that have higher disease rates "

I've heard that plenty of times before - I'm just querying the OP's _iew that people see bi/bi-curious differently!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Firstly; welcome to fab and to the forums.

If you search 'Bi' you'll find this subject has been well and truly discussed before.

I can't say in my experience that bi or bi curious get a different response. We initially put curious on our profile for us both. I liked it whilst she found she didn't so she reverted to straight and I confirmed as Bi.

We now get lots more messages than we used to, I figure because there are so many couples with a bi female but not as many with a bi fella.

We also get lots of 'straight' guys claiming to be Bi. Perhaps they are or perhaps they just want to get it on with Nicki; we just don't meet them.

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman  over a year ago

essex just looking around

I love all bi people.. male or female

I agree if you are curious you have gone thru the thought process of shall i shant I ..

A hetro-sexuaul is straight false stop no curious about it.. never will be

Also I dont see that bi or bi curious is frowned on more than the other for men ..As above , Im interested to know where that idea comes from ?

The MAIN problem I hear on here and what pee s off genuine Straight men is straight couples fibbing and then mid meet throwing in the BI Card for good measure.. Never a good move ) x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I play and socialise with a fab couple he is straight she is deliciously bi!! But if they are looking for a single man to join them would tend to go for a bi chap as they don't have as many hang ups being around another man. The odd accidental close encounter isn't going to have the man running for the hills!!

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London

Is it bi day or something?

I KNOW I'll not appeal to everyone and have absolutely no qualms with that. I most certainly do not have a sense of entitlement or expect anyone to justify themselves to me. I do not assume people are racist for not meeting me: other opinions from black people are available.

Yet EVERY day a bi man ask people to justify why they don't want to meet them. Here's a novel idea: there are THOUSANDS of people who adore bi men. I've heard a rumour some actively seek bi men! I know, kinky bastards. So why not seek those seeking you rather than worry about those not interested...or am I missing something?!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Regarding which sexual preference is the most likely to give you an sti; I would imagine that all statistics published are of non swingers! Swinging, even if you only sleep with a few people, puts you into bed with people who are outside of the norm and therefore statistics do not apply.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Regarding which sexual preference is the most likely to give you an sti; I would imagine that all statistics published are of non swingers! Swinging, even if you only sleep with a few people, puts you into bed with people who are outside of the norm and therefore statistics do not apply. "

Some would argue that swingers may even be a lower risk due to a better understanding of the need to use protection and play safely, as well as get regular check ups at the clinic, compared with those outside of the scene indulging in random casual sex.

But this of course is entirely down to the individuals concerned! And if we're all taking responsibility for our own health - the stats, whilst potentially useful, are also potentially irrelevant.

I agree with Mistress though - people would be a lot happier if they concentrated on those whose preferences they meet rather than those they don't.

Won't stop me questioning peoples rationality and reasoning - but I won't ever question their preference!

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Is it bi day or something?

I KNOW I'll not appeal to everyone and have absolutely no qualms with that. I most certainly do not have a sense of entitlement or expect anyone to justify themselves to me. I do not assume people are racist for not meeting me: other opinions from black people are available.

Yet EVERY day a bi man ask people to justify why they don't want to meet them. Here's a novel idea: there are THOUSANDS of people who adore bi men. I've heard a rumour some actively seek bi men! I know, kinky bastards. So why not seek those seeking you rather than worry about those not interested...or am I missing something?!! "

The voice of reason as usual!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Regarding which sexual preference is the most likely to give you an sti; I would imagine that all statistics published are of non swingers! Swinging, even if you only sleep with a few people, puts you into bed with people who are outside of the norm and therefore statistics do not apply.

Some would argue that swingers may even be a lower risk due to a better understanding of the need to use protection and play safely, as well as get regular check ups at the clinic, compared with those outside of the scene indulging in random casual sex.

But this of course is entirely down to the individuals concerned! And if we're all taking responsibility for our own health - the stats, whilst potentially useful, are also potentially irrelevant.

I agree with Mistress though - people would be a lot happier if they concentrated on those whose preferences they meet rather than those they don't.

Won't stop me questioning peoples rationality and reasoning - but I won't ever question their preference!"

Point taken and that kinda strengthens the argument that Bi guys in the swinging world are no more dangerous to play with than the straight ones. If we are busy swinging we're being safe rather than getting d*unk and having unprotected sex in the toilets of gay clubs perhaps? Who really knows? If we're all using condoms the risk of catching something untreatable is pretty low.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

The bi's are taking over.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The bi's are taking over."

Ohhhhh yes!

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By *uthTVDerbysTV/TS  over a year ago

Derby

To summarise then ...

You CAN Bi

But don't look

Thanks

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By *oung-dreamCouple  over a year ago

nottingham

It's all about what you are looking for, if both partners are straight surely it's just easier to play with someone else straight x

Same as me I'm bi (kylie) and I have had straight couples that don't want to play with us as I'm bi but it dosent offend me as i would rarther just find someone who likes what I do instead of just playing pretend to be straight x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's all about what you are looking for, if both partners are straight surely it's just easier to play with someone else straight x

Same as me I'm bi (kylie) and I have had straight couples that don't want to play with us as I'm bi but it dosent offend me as i would rarther just find someone who likes what I do instead of just playing pretend to be straight x"

I don't get the 'playing pretend to be straight' bit?

I was under the impression being bi meant you enjoyed fun with both sexes - therefore why would there be any need for pretence?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Apparently, bi men can't jump as high as straight men. I read this on a post on another thread. It could be a reason or at least a factor to consider when people decide whether or not to meet a bi guy. I certainly don't know any bi high jumpers so it may be true. "

I am sorry to laugh but that is obviously so ridiculous but funny! Oh dear....the way people think! Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if oyou try it and do then presumably you are bi?

I know this is probably wrong but as soon as I see "bicurious" I think "probable timewaster"

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

Probably wrong but when I read bicurious I think "probable timewaster"

I shall note myself as a timewaster on my profile!

Out of interest OP - who exactly says that bi-curious is ok but bi isn't?

From my experience those not wishing to play with bi men see both as one and the same! "

I was told today by someone who basically raised a concern that I was bi not bi curious

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi all - so I am a bi guy. Apparently that causes upset although being bi curious would not. I am genuinely surprised by this for a number of reasons :

Bi curious means surely you want to see if you like same sex sex, and if oyou try it and do then presumably you are bi?

I know this is probably wrong but as soon as I see "bicurious" I think "probable timewaster"

We (men) love bi women and there seems to be virtually complete acceptance of bi women.

Being bi is not unusual wrong or forbidden.

So why the different attitudes to bi men and women? Why is bi curious ok but bi not? Actually, what is bi curious - if the fantasy of same sex floats your boat aren't you already there?!

Finally why do we get so hung up on labels?!

Interested to hear _iews please!

(Ps first posting so be gentle!)

Probably wrong but when I read bicurious I think "probable timewaster"

I shall note myself as a timewaster on my profile!

Out of interest OP - who exactly says that bi-curious is ok but bi isn't?

From my experience those not wishing to play with bi men see both as one and the same!

I was told today by someone who basically raised a concern that I was bi not bi curious "

I wouldn't pay too much attention to one person!

I thought there's been a survey or something!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I posted a question asking at what point I should change from curious to Bi and one answer was when I pushed back.... I changed to Bi on the spot

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As a bi couple we're very comfortable and confident in our sexuality....if others don't like it then tough!

Mrs Dirty "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is no such thing as Bi- sexuality, that means no such thing as Bi, or indeed Bi - curious.

Sexuality in men is a line from 100% hetrosexual to 100% homosexual.

At different times a man moves along that line depending on many things. Likewise his position on that line isn't fixed.

Greek culture shows us many things including their attitudes to sex and sexuality,

War, prison, religion, culture, lack of women all affect a mans sex life.

For instance due to a shortage of available women on some internet sites, men who class themselves as 100% straight will in the right circumstances fuck other men, but would never think they are less than straight.

Why narrow your choices, sex is for two things, emptying your balls ( pleasure ) or ensuring that the species survives.

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By *oung-dreamCouple  over a year ago

nottingham


"It's all about what you are looking for, if both partners are straight surely it's just easier to play with someone else straight x

Same as me I'm bi (kylie) and I have had straight couples that don't want to play with us as I'm bi but it dosent offend me as i would rarther just find someone who likes what I do instead of just playing pretend to be straight x

I don't get the 'playing pretend to be straight' bit?

I was under the impression being bi meant you enjoyed fun with both sexes - therefore why would there be any need for pretence? "

I mean pretending I don't find other ladies attractive.. As in just showing the male attention when I also want to play with the lady. I find it awkward and feel paranoid they feel uncomfortable around me so I would rarther play with a bi female couple x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

have posted this before so will repeat myself.

why would a bi man want to meet with a couple with a straight man?

this is all about having fun and living out fantasy, supposedly, so if you arent able to play the way you want, then surely you arent playing out your fantasies.

mrs is bi curious, so we invite similar ladies into our play.

however, straight women are also welcome because its not all about women playing with each other for us, but much more fluid, but never man on man, its just not our/my thing.

nothing to do with being scared or hating bi or gay men

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"have posted this before so will repeat myself.

why would a bi man want to meet with a couple with a straight man?

this is all about having fun and living out fantasy, supposedly, so if you arent able to play the way you want, then surely you arent playing out your fantasies.

mrs is bi curious, so we invite similar ladies into our play.

however, straight women are also welcome because its not all about women playing with each other for us, but much more fluid, but never man on man, its just not our/my thing.

nothing to do with being scared or hating bi or gay men"

I think it's down to the individual then. Because I (mrs) prefer bi women. Never played in a scenario with a straight woman but mrnotts would be happy playing either with a bi male couple or a straight male couple. That's exactly how you've just described V so why can't bi guys have the same feelings...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"have posted this before so will repeat myself.

why would a bi man want to meet with a couple with a straight man?

this is all about having fun and living out fantasy, supposedly, so if you arent able to play the way you want, then surely you arent playing out your fantasies.

mrs is bi curious, so we invite similar ladies into our play.

however, straight women are also welcome because its not all about women playing with each other for us, but much more fluid, but never man on man, its just not our/my thing.

nothing to do with being scared or hating bi or gay men"

But not every fantasy has to be lived out every time surely?

I like being dp'd but I don't feel like it every time we meet a couple...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"have posted this before so will repeat myself.

why would a bi man want to meet with a couple with a straight man?

this is all about having fun and living out fantasy, supposedly, so if you arent able to play the way you want, then surely you arent playing out your fantasies.

mrs is bi curious, so we invite similar ladies into our play.

however, straight women are also welcome because its not all about women playing with each other for us, but much more fluid, but never man on man, its just not our/my thing.

nothing to do with being scared or hating bi or gay men

I think it's down to the individual then. Because I (mrs) prefer bi women. Never played in a scenario with a straight woman but mrnotts would be happy playing either with a bi male couple or a straight male couple. That's exactly how you've just described V so why can't bi guys have the same feelings..."

not saying they cant.

im saying we wouldnt go out of our way to invite a bi male to play because either of us have no interest in playing with a bi guy.

dont forget, we already dont do the full sex thing with others, so not only would a bi fella not be getting a shag, he would also not be getting additional cock, and that, imo, is very limiting to a guy that would like to play with another cock.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"have posted this before so will repeat myself.

why would a bi man want to meet with a couple with a straight man?

this is all about having fun and living out fantasy, supposedly, so if you arent able to play the way you want, then surely you arent playing out your fantasies.

mrs is bi curious, so we invite similar ladies into our play.

however, straight women are also welcome because its not all about women playing with each other for us, but much more fluid, but never man on man, its just not our/my thing.

nothing to do with being scared or hating bi or gay men

I think it's down to the individual then. Because I (mrs) prefer bi women. Never played in a scenario with a straight woman but mrnotts would be happy playing either with a bi male couple or a straight male couple. That's exactly how you've just described V so why can't bi guys have the same feelings...

not saying they cant.

im saying we wouldnt go out of our way to invite a bi male to play because either of us have no interest in playing with a bi guy.

dont forget, we already dont do the full sex thing with others, so not only would a bi fella not be getting a shag, he would also not be getting additional cock, and that, imo, is very limiting to a guy that would like to play with another cock."

Well we like to do mmf so we don't mind if the guy who joins us is bi or not. If he isn't then that's sometimes better because Nicki then gets 100% of the attention.

If we hook up with a straight couple then we enjoy it as a swap. That's one of the beauty's of being Bi; I ONLY fuck women.

The only time it doesn't work for us is if we met a bi couple who want to play Bi. As Nicki is straight then it just wouldnt work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"have posted this before so will repeat myself.

why would a bi man want to meet with a couple with a straight man?

this is all about having fun and living out fantasy, supposedly, so if you arent able to play the way you want, then surely you arent playing out your fantasies.

mrs is bi curious, so we invite similar ladies into our play.

however, straight women are also welcome because its not all about women playing with each other for us, but much more fluid, but never man on man, its just not our/my thing.

nothing to do with being scared or hating bi or gay men

I think it's down to the individual then. Because I (mrs) prefer bi women. Never played in a scenario with a straight woman but mrnotts would be happy playing either with a bi male couple or a straight male couple. That's exactly how you've just described V so why can't bi guys have the same feelings...

not saying they cant.

im saying we wouldnt go out of our way to invite a bi male to play because either of us have no interest in playing with a bi guy.

dont forget, we already dont do the full sex thing with others, so not only would a bi fella not be getting a shag, he would also not be getting additional cock, and that, imo, is very limiting to a guy that would like to play with another cock."

You invite straight women.... but V can't play with those so she's missing out.

If you invite couples with a straight guy he's missing out because you only soft swap.

....from what you say..... ??!

Your first comment contradicts itself. x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

our preferences are just that, ours, and we dont expect others to understand them, just accept them, as we do others

sometimes they are contradictory as situations can be fluid, but we stand by it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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our preferences are just that, ours, and we dont expect others to understand them, just accept them, as we do others

sometimes they are contradictory as situations can be fluid, but we stand by it."

I'm guessing you wrote your poem a while ago now; you said earlier that you full swap now but your poem says you just soft swap and want to leave people frustrated.... Well wanting more.... well it doesn't seem to fit what you say you've progressed to.... Oh now I'm all confuffilated.... Pops kettle back on needing more coffee

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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our preferences are just that, ours, and we dont expect others to understand them, just accept them, as we do others

sometimes they are contradictory as situations can be fluid, but we stand by it."

Not saying anything bad about you preferences at all.

In an earlier post you said you don't know why a bi guy would meet a straight guy couple because he would be missing out. My point was, you will meet straight women couples, so does that mean that V is missing out?

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I always chat to people prior to meeting for sex to set and agree groundrules an expectations. Good communication means no one is going to feel left out or feel weird about the meet. I'm bi, I don't hide the fact, I don't feel particularly proud or ashamed of it, it's just me, so people can choose whether or not they want sex with me. I've played with couples before where the guy was straight and all 3 of us knew nothing sexual would happen between me and

him. People can choose who they want to have sex with and choose what to do when they have sex. it's a lot easier for all concerned if good communication gets going....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it bi day or something?

I KNOW I'll not appeal to everyone and have absolutely no qualms with that. I most certainly do not have a sense of entitlement or expect anyone to justify themselves to me. I do not assume people are racist for not meeting me: other opinions from black people are available.

Yet EVERY day a bi man ask people to justify why they don't want to meet them. Here's a novel idea: there are THOUSANDS of people who adore bi men. I've heard a rumour some actively seek bi men! I know, kinky bastards. So why not seek those seeking you rather than worry about those not interested...or am I missing something?!! "

You can't change your ethnicity, but sexual preference is still _iewed as a "lifestyle choice", and it would appear to me that whereas we have made great advances in the acceptance of homosexuality, bisexuality (and particularly male bisexuality) is seen as subversive, greedy (yes, honestly) and opportunistic.

I think the OP has a right to raise his questions. I myself don't really understand what bi-curious means, other than a halfway status for people who don't want to commit to being bi, but feel dishonest for putting straight, then messaging blokes asking them for a blowjob.

I don't hassle people who don't want to meet me or whose preferences I fall outside of.

Though I do chuckle to myself each time a straight bloke blocks me after I look at their profile or Fab one of their pics.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

our preferences are just that, ours, and we dont expect others to understand them, just accept them, as we do others

sometimes they are contradictory as situations can be fluid, but we stand by it.

I'm guessing you wrote your poem a while ago now; you said earlier that you full swap now but your poem says you just soft swap and want to leave people frustrated.... Well wanting more.... well it doesn't seem to fit what you say you've progressed to.... Oh now I'm all confuffilated.... Pops kettle back on needing more coffee "

Apologies; read don't do as do.....

Will someone please stop me posting drivel and make me do some work?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish! "

More deluded than childish. ....

Lots of closet bi guys on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

our preferences are just that, ours, and we dont expect others to understand them, just accept them, as we do others

sometimes they are contradictory as situations can be fluid, but we stand by it.

Not saying anything bad about you preferences at all.

In an earlier post you said you don't know why a bi guy would meet a straight guy couple because he would be missing out. My point was, you will meet straight women couples, so does that mean that V is missing out?"

no, because as i have said in other posts, she is more bi playful than bi or curious, there just isnt the quarterway option between straight and curious, hence why girl girl isnt everything to us, like it is to some couples that message. she is much more an enjoyer of cock than she is of a punani lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish! "

How incredibly rude. Other people's preferences are childish?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish!

More deluded than childish. ....

Lots of closet bi guys on here"

So..?

They're only bi, not rapists!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish!

How incredibly rude. Other people's preferences are childish?! "

To exclude bi couples ONLY because they are BI, screams bigotry, that's kinda RUDE!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its not a phobia at all. It is simply preference.

We have no problems with guys being bi or gay but we are not interested in playing with them.

Equally there are people on here interested in pissing, bondage etc which we are not much interested in either.

As for labels - they are a useful place to start in the absence of any other knowledge about a person."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish!

More deluded than childish. ....

Lots of closet bi guys on here

So..?

They're only bi, not rapists! "

Eh? What on earth?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish!

How incredibly rude. Other people's preferences are childish?!

To exclude bi couples ONLY because they are BI, screams bigotry, that's kinda RUDE! "

posting some very strange things this fine day.

too much sugar in your coffee?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are lots of bi phobia folk on this site, many couples meet straight couples but not bi?

I don't understand the issue really...it's kinda childish!

How incredibly rude. Other people's preferences are childish?!

To exclude bi couples ONLY because they are BI, screams bigotry, that's kinda RUDE!

posting some very strange things this fine day.

too much sugar in your coffee?"

That's your opinion, my posts aint strange to me!

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By *ngelbiTVTV/TS  over a year ago

Dyserth, North Wales

I'm bi, however...

Everyone has their preferences.

If a couple decide that they don't want to play with bi people (even if the bi people play straight) then it's their right to say that.

I have no problems with anyone straight or bi saying they don't want to play with me as I'm bi. It's completely their right to choose who they play with.

Simples

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm bi, however...

Everyone has their preferences.

If a couple decide that they don't want to play with bi people (even if the bi people play straight) then it's their right to say that.

I have no problems with anyone straight or bi saying they don't want to play with me as I'm bi. It's completely their right to choose who they play with.

Simples"

Aye. Can't argue with that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We wouldn't meet a Bi male....because the male half of us is straight and i'd be concerned your having dirty thoughts about him rather than enjoying what i'm doing

It's that simple, i crave the attention i'm receiving and if you like men that may take away from some of the attention a straight man would give, in other words i'm a selfish, greedy bitch :D

I don't let it faze me that i'm too young/slim/pierced for some people so concentrate on those you are suited to instead of questioning those you aren't x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm bi, however...

Everyone has their preferences.

If a couple decide that they don't want to play with bi people (even if the bi people play straight) then it's their right to say that.

I have no problems with anyone straight or bi saying they don't want to play with me as I'm bi. It's completely their right to choose who they play with.

Simples"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well said they should be a like button on here too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Suppose I could watch a 3 some mmf and if the guy sucked the guy with the woman I could watch that but would struggle to watch the guys kissing that would turn me off .....

they should be a like button on here too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We wouldn't meet a Bi male....because the male half of us is straight and i'd be concerned your having dirty thoughts about him rather than enjoying what i'm doing

It's that simple, i crave the attention i'm receiving and if you like men that may take away from some of the attention a straight man would give, in other words i'm a selfish, greedy bitch :D

I don't let it faze me that i'm too young/slim/pierced for some people so concentrate on those you are suited to instead of questioning those you aren't x"

Lmfao at you and your delusions! As soon as I read you won't play with a bi guy I checked and found 50% of your verifying couples have a Bi guy!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not triping all that again... so can I gently refer you to:-

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/237430

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/237264

Apparently Bi guys can be spotted by their ability rewire / plaster a house and also get matching colours and tasteful furnishings

Welcome to the forums

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We wouldn't meet a Bi male....because the male half of us is straight and i'd be concerned your having dirty thoughts about him rather than enjoying what i'm doing

It's that simple, i crave the attention i'm receiving and if you like men that may take away from some of the attention a straight man would give, in other words i'm a selfish, greedy bitch :D

I don't let it faze me that i'm too young/slim/pierced for some people so concentrate on those you are suited to instead of questioning those you aren't x"

Not sure how you manage to play in clubs with this opinion

And as I have said many times on here, the majority of messages - like 95% of all messages we get are from straight male profiles - who then say actually they are bi ( ranging from curious to fully anally bisexual) and wanting to meet a bi couple like us to play out their bi desires.

How can you legislate for that?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We wouldn't meet a Bi male....because the male half of us is straight and i'd be concerned your having dirty thoughts about him rather than enjoying what i'm doing

It's that simple, i crave the attention i'm receiving and if you like men that may take away from some of the attention a straight man would give, in other words i'm a selfish, greedy bitch :D

I don't let it faze me that i'm too young/slim/pierced for some people so concentrate on those you are suited to instead of questioning those you aren't x

Not sure how you manage to play in clubs with this opinion

And as I have said many times on here, the majority of messages - like 95% of all messages we get are from straight male profiles - who then say actually they are bi ( ranging from curious to fully anally bisexual) and wanting to meet a bi couple like us to play out their bi desires.

How can you legislate for that?"

She can't hence actually finding half the couples that weren't too disappointed with her actually to be happy to verify her have a bi male in them.

She young and insecure as she says in her comments.

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By *ngelbiTVTV/TS  over a year ago

Dyserth, North Wales


"We wouldn't meet a Bi male....because the male half of us is straight and i'd be concerned your having dirty thoughts about him rather than enjoying what i'm doing

It's that simple, i crave the attention i'm receiving and if you like men that may take away from some of the attention a straight man would give, in other words i'm a selfish, greedy bitch :D

I don't let it faze me that i'm too young/slim/pierced for some people so concentrate on those you are suited to instead of questioning those you aren't x

Lmfao at you and your delusions! As soon as I read you won't play with a bi guy I checked and found 50% of your verifying couples have a Bi guy!

"

Cos guys would never change their profiles to say they're straight just to get some fun? Then change it back to bi after.

I get many messages from 'straight' guys who want to me me and when I point out they're straight they say it's only on there cos some couples & women don't play with bi guys.

So just cos they have feedback from bi guys, it doesn't necessarily mean they knew they were bi guys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Think you're grasping at straws on her behalf. They only have two couples who have verified them and one of those couples has a bi male in it.

If you're going to state you won't play with a bi guy make sure you've checked your own verifications first!

I note she stuck her insecure head back in the sand after saying it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We don't play with couples so our verifications are simply from people we've met socially at clubs, thier sexuality is of no intereste to us, I was replying to the OP so not sure why I'm getting bashed but I have better things to do that try and explain myself to a bunch of people I don't know or plan to meet, happy Monday all xxxx (please don't reply to this, I won't be back on the forums anytime soon)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lol that's like phoning someone, shouting "you're still wrong" then putting the phone down and refusing to answer it

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By *bz60Man  over a year ago

Aberdeen city

Totally agree - diff to understand. As u say the labels make it worse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Always makes me laugh, how many 100% straight men on here, like their partners to strap on a big pretend cock and fuck their arses.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bi curious puts me off too, but with women. I have arranged to meet so many and been let down. Often, after talking for weeks beforehand...

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By *andom2chatMan  over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain


"Is it bi day or something?

I KNOW I'll not appeal to everyone and have absolutely no qualms with that. I most certainly do not have a sense of entitlement or expect anyone to justify themselves to me. I do not assume people are racist for not meeting me: other opinions from black people are available.

Yet EVERY day a bi man ask people to justify why they don't want to meet them. Here's a novel idea: there are THOUSANDS of people who adore bi men. I've heard a rumour some actively seek bi men! I know, kinky bastards. So why not seek those seeking you rather than worry about those not interested...or am I missing something?!! "

Nailed it. Focus on the ones you WANT to meet rather than those that put you off - WHATEVER THE REASON.

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By *andom2chatMan  over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain


"

our preferences are just that, ours, and we dont expect others to understand them, just accept them, as we do others

sometimes they are contradictory as situations can be fluid, but we stand by it."

I wish they weren't UNLOS. I like this comment.

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