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"How about doing what a lot of people do and using your own vehicle rather than work's" Not sure trying to block it would be any good for your long term employment prospects. Your own vehicle out of work hours is probably your only way forward | |||
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice." Use your own vehicle out of work hours. If you are allowed to use your work vehicle out of work hours, then tell them it's none of their business what you get up to on your own time. | |||
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"You're shaggin the boss's wife aren't you? "Brilliant!   | |||
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"You're shaggin the boss's wife aren't you? "If only ive met her and she's stunning. | |||
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"Do you mean an anti theft tracker or a continuous GPS tracker with downloading?" I think its a gps tracker that tracks my location but its possible its fitted with a theft tracker. | |||
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice. Use your own vehicle out of work hours. If you are allowed to use your work vehicle out of work hours, then tell them it's none of their business what you get up to on your own time." if it's a work vehicle lad of course it's their business Give me strength | |||
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"You need to do two things. Cover the tracker in tin foil. Cover your cock in tin foil. If you do this it's going to be ok bro. " Does he not need to attach both to the battery? | |||
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"Looks like fab have spoken in favour of the tracker. " I'm in favour of treating your employer with respect and not taking the piss in work's time | |||
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"I've heard (but don't quote me) that if you wrap lead round it it can't send a signal "It might shrivel and fall off too | |||
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"You're shaggin the boss's wife aren't you?
If only ive met her and she's stunning. "Why limit yourself? It'll do if she has a pulse. | |||
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s." Jesus! Lighten up! | |||
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"You're shaggin the boss's wife aren't you?
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s. Jesus! Lighten up!" But it is actually theft of both time and money. An owner of a largeish company that I know installed trackers to gain efficiencies and he said it directly enabled him to employ four more people. | |||
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"I've heard (but don't quote me) that if you wrap lead round it it can't send a signal "Only if it's using nuclear radiation I suspect. There might be other issues to concern OP in that case! | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it." So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle  | |||
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"A guy I knew from school used to go dogging.... his wife put a tracker on his van ... She knew exactly where he went Apparently he used to drive down my street frequently ...on route to his local dogging spot ... I didnt know of this One evening she knocked on my door and accused me of having an affair with him .. I don't know if she believed me ... .... she wasn't a happy lady ... she ranted and raved ... luckily my partner appeared and told her in no uncertain terms to go away......we saw them both in a pub about 6 months after ... my partner went up to them in quite an audiable voice .... said hello .... DO YOU STILL GO DOGGING !!!!! The pub went very quiet .. " And....did he? | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it." One would assume that 'car' most likely covers 'vans' as well in that circumstance. However I would clarify it with your employer. | |||
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s. Jesus! Lighten up! But it is actually theft of both time and money. An owner of a largeish company that I know installed trackers to gain efficiencies and he said it directly enabled him to employ four more people." | |||
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"We have trackers on our vans, and they run when the key is turned, and don't when it isn't (obviously). If you block or disrupt the tracker, it will show, as it has a signal both ways, and records when the vehicle is moving. If you are found to have tampered with the tracker in any way, its a dismissible offence. " My old w*rk vehicles had trackers fitted and an agreement was reached with the unions that tracker evidence wouldn`t be used in any disciplinary case. When two employees were suspected of not being on duty, they looked at the vehicle locations and sent a supervisor to "just happen to drive past the location!" which was the drivers` home addresses! OOPPS! | |||
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice." The fitting of a tracker clearly spells out the company are wanting to know their vehicles usage. Based on that using it for swinging in work time aint a good idea. The latter aint a good idea for a few reasons tbh
If your allowed to use it regardless for personal use outside of work I wouldn't worry about it. Yes they can ultimately check your movements but the whats & whys behind them they wont have a clue about. I doubt you'll ever have to explain them either if full personal usage is allowed. | |||
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice." . Surely if this is an asset that belongs to your company , you have no right to inter with it . These devices are installed to protect both the company and the employee . Does your employer permit private use of the van? What are the terms of this private use ?. If private use is permitted you may also find that you are uninsured . Only your employer can clarify this , not members of this forum. Your companies success depends on utilising vehicles in the most efficient manner possible. | |||
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s. Jesus! Lighten up!" . If a vehicle is provided for works use , that is the only purpose it should be used for . In addition , if private use is not permitted , it may also be being driven without valid insurance . If someone is prepared to take these type of chances , it makes you wonder what other chances they are prepared to take | |||
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"hi best thing to do is tell your boss you are a swinger and stop off for sex when available , but will make up the time later ..connie x "Best answer yet .... | |||
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"hi best thing to do is tell your boss you are a swinger and stop off for sex when available , but will make up the time later ..connie x "That is a very good idea. Nothing like honestly. | |||
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s. Jesus! Lighten up!. If a vehicle is provided for works use , that is the only purpose it should be used for . In addition , if private use is not permitted , it may also be being driven without valid insurance . If someone is prepared to take these type of chances , it makes you wonder what other chances they are prepared to take " O gosh your so right I might do another post about bareback gang bang fisting while been tracked. | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles!" I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. | |||
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"If one of my lads used one of my sign-written works vehicles to go dogging I would put his bollocks in a vice. Literally "Do you own Battersea dogs home ,,,,,,,, | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles! I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. " . I thought that one of the points of a tracker was to ensure that vehicles are used in the most efficient manner . A company can monitor the use of vehicles continuously if they wish.. | |||
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"hi best thing to do is tell your boss you are a swinger and stop off for sex when available , but will make up the time later ..connie x
Best answer yet ...."Well, you never know, your boss might be a closet bisexual? Maybe you could come to "an understanding" where, now and then, you bend over his desk and spread your chocolate starfish? | |||
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"Why not drive to your bosses house at lunch time, stop then drive on to a dogging site before going back to work via his house again. You'll soon see if he is watching your every move lol" He also might think I'm picking his wife up. If only as she's one very sexy lady | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles! I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. . I thought that one of the points of a tracker was to ensure that vehicles are used in the most efficient manner . A company can monitor the use of vehicles continuously if they wish.." I just checked it out you are correct. Unless there is permission for private use. Then there must be a privacy switch on tracker to be activated outside working hours.... So dude if you don't have permission to use don't do it.... | |||
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"hi best thing to do is tell your boss you are a swinger and stop off for sex when available , but will make up the time later ..connie x
Best answer yet ....
Well, you never know, your boss might be a closet bisexual? Maybe you could come to "an understanding" where, now and then, you bend over his desk and spread your chocolate starfish? "That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. | |||
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"Cant believe the amount of private hate messages ive got about this. You would have thought I had post about dog porn or something like that. " Feel sorry for you. Some people just got too much time on their hands | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. " The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women." What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen? | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen?" I don't understand your last point. The poster mentioned that his boss liked 'trannies'. It's likely he was referencing transwomen, so I explained the correct term to him. | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle "Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules. I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen? I don't understand your last point. The poster mentioned that his boss liked 'trannies'. It's likely he was referencing transwomen, so I explained the correct term to him." Sorry, I took it as transvestites. So what is a transvestite? And the ones I have met refer to themselves and others as trannies | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen? I don't understand your last point. The poster mentioned that his boss liked 'trannies'. It's likely he was referencing transwomen, so I explained the correct term to him. Sorry, I took it as transvestites. So what is a transvestite? And the ones I have met refer to themselves and others as trannies" I think it's one of those cases where it's ok to identify yourself that way, but can be considered quite insulting to call people it. Like the reclamation of the word 'fag' in the gay scene. I wouldn't call a man a fag, because that's a worth with a poor history of being used as abuse. But if my gay male friends want to self identify with fags and refer to themselves that way, that's cool. Many people, like myself, find the word 'tranny' a massive insult. And it's used as an insult towards us too, which is deeply unpleasant. So if you're not sure you're unlikely to go wrong with 'transperson'. If you know they're not undergoing gender reassignment then 'crossdresser' is a safe option. | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it..."Nonsense | |||
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"Depends how its wired but a simple fuse removal may do but its then explaining the gaps, especially if its live time tracking by a centre or office or recorded on to a drive of some sort for later downloading" my post from earlier .... we had trackers on our works vans one time. they kept blowing the fuses .... the boss gave up | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen? I don't understand your last point. The poster mentioned that his boss liked 'trannies'. It's likely he was referencing transwomen, so I explained the correct term to him." Sorry if I caused any offence its wasn't my intention. A little bit more info on my post would have helped. There are so many ways that people identity them selves its hard to give it one name that all are happy with. I'm personally happy to be called a tranny especially if its " suck on cock you dirty tranny". | |||
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No fun anymore for alot of people out there..dam cyber grasses. | |||
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"From the government website regarding smoking on vehicles Smoking in work vehicles Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than one person uses, eg: taxis buses vans goods vehicles used by more than one driver company cars used by more than one employee A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees. " Believe this is 100% correct. Also not allowed to smoke in private commercial vehicles. That included pick up and car delivery van. | |||
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"Depends how its wired but a simple fuse removal may do but its then explaining the gaps, especially if its live time tracking by a centre or office or recorded on to a drive of some sort for later downloading my post from earlier .... we had trackers on our works vans one time. they kept blowing the fuses .... the boss gave up" Sounds like the boys (there isn't any females or trans people) need a union meeting. | |||
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"Depends how its wired but a simple fuse removal may do but its then explaining the gaps, especially if its live time tracking by a centre or office or recorded on to a drive of some sort for later downloading my post from earlier .... we had trackers on our works vans one time. they kept blowing the fuses .... the boss gave up" So take the fuse out and put it across the battery for a second!! Job done and then put it back in ! | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen?" I love trannies! Had an 04 plate short wheel base then a long wheel base and then a tipper after that! I tried a Renault trafic but it just wasn't the same | |||
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"Depends how its wired but a simple fuse removal may do but its then explaining the gaps, especially if its live time tracking by a centre or office or recorded on to a drive of some sort for later downloading my post from earlier .... we had trackers on our works vans one time. they kept blowing the fuses .... the boss gave up So take the fuse out and put it across the battery for a second!! Job done and then put it back in ! "that wouldn't blow a fuse .... you need to draw too strong a current through the fuse .... like the way it blows if you put a 5amp fuse in the 30amp fuse slot by mistake | |||
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"Its not that I want to sneak off work early. Its just if I find a meet near where I'm working I don't fancy driving all the way home to get my car to then return for a meet which is more than likely cancelled. For some reason couples like to meet on impulse. As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it." So would you go straight to the meet then without showering and changing into something other than work clothes ?? phew !! | |||
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"Depends how its wired but a simple fuse removal may do but its then explaining the gaps, especially if its live time tracking by a centre or office or recorded on to a drive of some sort for later downloading my post from earlier .... we had trackers on our works vans one time. they kept blowing the fuses .... the boss gave up So take the fuse out and put it across the battery for a second!! Job done and then put it back in !
that wouldn't blow a fuse .... you need to draw too strong a current through the fuse .... like the way it blows if you put a 5amp fuse in the 30amp fuse slot by mistake "Trust me I'm an ex electronic engineer and now an electrical control design engineer if you were to place a fuse across a battery ( one side on the positive one side on the negative) it would blow instantly the amount of current drawn from a dead short is immense much more than a piece of wire could handle let alone a fuse of say 5amps . The potential current delivery from a car battery is huge as in hundreds of amps. | |||
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"Cant believe the amount of private hate messages ive got about this. You would have thought I had post about dog porn or something like that. " I'm not surprised that you are getting hate messages as there are so many brain dead idiots on this site, some of them are the employers who think they own their staff and see them as robots instead of people. | |||
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"Cant believe the amount of private hate messages ive got about this. You would have thought I had post about dog porn or something like that. I'm not surprised that you are getting hate messages as there are so many brain dead idiots on this site, some of them are the employers who think they own their staff and see them as robots instead of people. " When you get more involved or are employed by, for example, a Local Authority, you begin to realise how restricted you now are as an employee and it`s got little to do with employers exploiting their staff and more about them covering their asses, both co-operate and personal. You get caught for a traffic offence when your employer has an "O" licence then you put the "O" licence in danger of being revoked. My Local Authority employer were on a watch list from VOSA as there had been a few violations more than VOSA were happy with. Couple that with "helpful" or spiteful members of the public AKA tax payers who may see LA vehicles where they consider they shouldn`t be and insurance companies putting premiums up and you`ll see why firms have work use only policies. Imagine a large Local Authority not being able to operate any vehicle bigger than a Transit van! That`s what the result would be! | |||
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice." Probably the best way is to ask if you can use it for nights out etc as long as you stipulate that you will not drink alcohol And park it in normal council car parks, so it looks like you could be anywhere As to having a tracker in it , it's not your van if you don't like it don't drive it . Lots of vehicles have them as do mobile phones , especially if your given a iPhone or data tablet etc It's a fact of life commercial insurance policies are insisting on black box technology , and eventually everyone will have one . | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense"Obviously a very well reasoned argument... However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense... The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version... I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van... I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges...  | |||
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"Its not that I want to sneak off work early. Its just if I find a meet near where I'm working I don't fancy driving all the way home to get my car to then return for a meet which is more than likely cancelled. For some reason couples like to meet on impulse. As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So would you go straight to the meet then without showering and changing into something other than work clothes ?? phew !!" We have a shower at work and in the hotel I stay in. But I have been messaged by a guy who want smelly and sweaty. | |||
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"Cant believe the amount of private hate messages ive got about this. You would have thought I had post about dog porn or something like that. I'm not surprised that you are getting hate messages as there are so many brain dead idiots on this site, some of them are the employers who think they own their staff and see them as robots instead of people. " There appears to be a lot of high flying company owners on here. | |||
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"The tracker is the least of your problems !!! I'd be more worried about the video recorder built into the rear view mirror that's filming you in HD hanging out the back of your bosses wife (or daughter) when you should be hanging out the back of the van and unloading that rather than unloading your sac. "It would be worth been sacked his wife is stunning and I mean stunning all she asked me is would I like a cupa tea couldn't get my words out. | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense
Obviously a very well reasoned argument...
However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense...
The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version...
I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van...
I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges... "I haven't signed any rules. Apart from the fact that it is my van and I am the only one who uses it, people who work for a company are allowed to smoke in the vehicles if they are the only one who uses it and the company allows it. Check the governments laws on smoking in the workplace before making claims that you are obviously not clear on or know nothing about. So yes, your earlier statement was nonsense | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense
Obviously a very well reasoned argument...
However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense...
The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version...
I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van...
I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges...
I haven't signed any rules. Apart from the fact that it is my van and I am the only one who uses it, people who work for a company are allowed to smoke in the vehicles if they are the only one who uses it and the company allows it. Check the governments laws on smoking in the workplace before making claims that you are obviously not clear on or know nothing about. So yes, your earlier statement was nonsense"Obviously if you are self employed you will not sign any rules, however if you are employed by a company you do. As we are talking about the OP who gets a van with his job, he signs the company rules. Regarding smoking in your van, you are correct. However, the moment you carry a passenger or a client/ colleague shelters from the rain in your van you are then covered by the work place rules. So unless no one but you ever gets in the van you could be liable for prosecution... There was a well publicised case where a sole trader was prosecuted for smoking in his van outside work hours. He was found guilty... | |||
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"That would be really taking one for the team. Last boss was rumoured to like trannys. The word is transpeople. Or transwomen if they are women. What like television not telly? And how come they are transwomen but not transmen? I don't understand your last point. The poster mentioned that his boss liked 'trannies'. It's likely he was referencing transwomen, so I explained the correct term to him. Sorry, I took it as transvestites. So what is a transvestite? And the ones I have met refer to themselves and others as trannies I think it's one of those cases where it's ok to identify yourself that way, but can be considered quite insulting to call people it. Like the reclamation of the word 'fag' in the gay scene. I wouldn't call a man a fag, because that's a worth with a poor history of being used as abuse. But if my gay male friends want to self identify with fags and refer to themselves that way, that's cool. Many people, like myself, find the word 'tranny' a massive insult. And it's used as an insult towards us too, which is deeply unpleasant. So if you're not sure you're unlikely to go wrong with 'transperson'. If you know they're not undergoing gender reassignment then 'crossdresser' is a safe option." Transperson seems to be the best way forward by the sounds of it. Less chance of offending if unsure. Otherwise I go with advice from the lovely Rachael and refer to people as they present. | |||
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice." Assuming you're having fun in your own time and not company time, why would this be an issue? A tracker logs where you've been and where you are. Not what you're doing when you get there. I don't see the issue unless you're "up to no good" while you're supposed to be at work. | |||
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"Was once sat in my van in a supermarket car park and a woman knocked on the window and said 'you can't smoke in there'. It was my own van "If it's a vehicle you use for your work, she's right. The law is a workplace smoking van, otherwise you'd be able to say I'm the boss, it's my office so I can smoke. Of course her being right doesn't stop you thinking she's an interfering busy body or that the law is nonsense! | |||
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"I have worked in a department where we tracked the vans. We would look at them at varying times of the day for all sorts of reasons. Just talk to your boss. If it isn't costing them money and the van is parked safely they may not have a problem with it. " . If the van is being used for private use , your company are obliged to declare this to HMRC .. | |||
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"Was once sat in my van in a supermarket car park and a woman knocked on the window and said 'you can't smoke in there'. It was my own van
If it's a vehicle you use for your work, she's right. The law is a workplace smoking van, otherwise you'd be able to say I'm the boss, it's my office so I can smoke. Of course her being right doesn't stop you thinking she's an interfering busy body or that the law is nonsense!"For goodness sake she is not right, check the law/rules | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense
Obviously a very well reasoned argument...
However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense...
The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version...
I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van...
I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges...
I haven't signed any rules. Apart from the fact that it is my van and I am the only one who uses it, people who work for a company are allowed to smoke in the vehicles if they are the only one who uses it and the company allows it. Check the governments laws on smoking in the workplace before making claims that you are obviously not clear on or know nothing about. So yes, your earlier statement was nonsense
Obviously if you are self employed you will not sign any rules, however if you are employed by a company you do. As we are talking about the OP who gets a van with his job, he signs the company rules.
Regarding smoking in your van, you are correct. However, the moment you carry a passenger or a client/ colleague shelters from the rain in your van you are then covered by the work place rules. So unless no one but you ever gets in the van you could be liable for prosecution...
There was a well publicised case where a sole trader was prosecuted for smoking in his van outside work hours. He was found guilty..."Why not just admit you were wrong? | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles! I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. " As an employer we are now allowed to read your private messages written during work hours I can tell you my insurance does not cover private use at all . In fact mine has a radius from southampton that I can travel and at certain times of day it is not used Employers have every right to know where there equipment is at any time of the day or night And when you look at the tracker software it actuall provides a route on a map and you click on it to get a time . | |||
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s. Jesus! Lighten up!" My ex boyfriend was on call alot and had to have the works vehicle to hand when on call Its probably just a case of trying to find playtime when you're constantly on call rather than trying to rip his firm off lol | |||
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"Unless you actually have free use of the van in your contract of employment , may I say use of the company fuel is theft and I hope your employer finds out and not only sacks you but also reports you to the police. Why is it that people who are given a very good perk to travel to and from work have to take the pi@s. Jesus! Lighten up! My ex boyfriend was on call alot and had to have the works vehicle to hand when on call Its probably just a case of trying to find playtime when you're constantly on call rather than trying to rip his firm off lol " Ita not just about the use its insurance and fuel costs and if hmrc found out later that you used your company car for private use it could mean a payment to them of about 3400 per annum in backdated tax Less if you put the fuel in yourself I feel it's a company car or van and you don't use it for private use Unless you have permission in writing and pay the relevant tax . Remember its upto you as the taxpayer to tell hmrc you use it for private use . Just as it is upto you to get the tax rebate on the money your given for mileage if you use your own car for work Btw if you get paid travelling expenses you get taxed on it which you can claim a % back each year | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense
Obviously a very well reasoned argument...
However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense...
The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version...
I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van...
I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges...
I haven't signed any rules. Apart from the fact that it is my van and I am the only one who uses it, people who work for a company are allowed to smoke in the vehicles if they are the only one who uses it and the company allows it. Check the governments laws on smoking in the workplace before making claims that you are obviously not clear on or know nothing about. So yes, your earlier statement was nonsense
Obviously if you are self employed you will not sign any rules, however if you are employed by a company you do. As we are talking about the OP who gets a van with his job, he signs the company rules.
Regarding smoking in your van, you are correct. However, the moment you carry a passenger or a client/ colleague shelters from the rain in your van you are then covered by the work place rules. So unless no one but you ever gets in the van you could be liable for prosecution...
There was a well publicised case where a sole trader was prosecuted for smoking in his van outside work hours. He was found guilty...
Why not just admit you were wrong?"Because I am not... | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense
Obviously a very well reasoned argument...
However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense...
The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version...
I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van...
I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges...
I haven't signed any rules. Apart from the fact that it is my van and I am the only one who uses it, people who work for a company are allowed to smoke in the vehicles if they are the only one who uses it and the company allows it. Check the governments laws on smoking in the workplace before making claims that you are obviously not clear on or know nothing about. So yes, your earlier statement was nonsense
Obviously if you are self employed you will not sign any rules, however if you are employed by a company you do. As we are talking about the OP who gets a van with his job, he signs the company rules.
Regarding smoking in your van, you are correct. However, the moment you carry a passenger or a client/ colleague shelters from the rain in your van you are then covered by the work place rules. So unless no one but you ever gets in the van you could be liable for prosecution...
There was a well publicised case where a sole trader was prosecuted for smoking in his van outside work hours. He was found guilty...
Why not just admit you were wrong?
Because I am not..."Sole traders who carry passengers including wife or mates have to have no smoking vehicles . It quite clearly states when the driver is The only person who goes in it and it is used for work purposes Work purposes is having the vehicle insured for work related activities . Everyone I know that smokes does so in their van regardless of weather they are employed or not. I don't like smoking and now stopped the Mrs from smoking in my car and van not becaus it is illegal but because it smells | |||
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"In a nutshell You wouldn't syphon the fuel out your work car and put it in your private car to use You wouldn't take a jerry can and put fuel in that when you top up work car or van to put in your private car to use You would not use your work fuel card to fuel own car to use You would not fill your personal car up at garage and claim fuel back on expenses to use Using your works van or car for private Is no different if you don't have permission " . A useful summary. You may also be driving without insurance if your employer has not permitted private use . | |||
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"Op it boils down to honesty. If I were your employer and I read this thread........... how long do you think you would last? Turn it on the head, you are the employer and you see this.... be honest if you can? L2" If he worked for me and I saw this he wouldn't be working for me any more. | |||
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" As for t+c in my contract there is lots about company cars but nothing about vans. Very strange as I don't need a van I have a big long wheel base van with 2 tool boxes in it. So you were never told about the conditions of use of the vehicle and whether it included personal use? If that really is the case, then the employer would have no grounds for taking any action if you used it however you wished. They must be pretty dumb if they haven't provided you with written details of the conditions of use of the vehicle
Unfortunately you are wrong. When you join a company you sign to say that you agree to abide by the company rules. The rules are often on an A4 piece of paper, at the end of this it will tell you that these are the main rules but not all but you sign agreeing to all rules.
I fell foul of this when they produced the signed sheet and a book the size of the doomsdaybook...
Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work.
So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it...
Nonsense
Obviously a very well reasoned argument...
However your "nonsense" reply is nonsense...
The rule book thing is fact. I was sacked over an obscure rule in a very large book. A solicitor stated that I had agreed to the rules when I had signed the abridged version...
I also know of people being prosecuted and being found guilty in court of smoking in a company van...
I will bow to your superior knowledge as you clearly know more than solicitors, the police and Judges...
I haven't signed any rules. Apart from the fact that it is my van and I am the only one who uses it, people who work for a company are allowed to smoke in the vehicles if they are the only one who uses it and the company allows it. Check the governments laws on smoking in the workplace before making claims that you are obviously not clear on or know nothing about. So yes, your earlier statement was nonsense
Obviously if you are self employed you will not sign any rules, however if you are employed by a company you do. As we are talking about the OP who gets a van with his job, he signs the company rules.
Regarding smoking in your van, you are correct. However, the moment you carry a passenger or a client/ colleague shelters from the rain in your van you are then covered by the work place rules. So unless no one but you ever gets in the van you could be liable for prosecution...
There was a well publicised case where a sole trader was prosecuted for smoking in his van outside work hours. He was found guilty...
Why not just admit you were wrong?
Because I am not..."But its not an offence to smoke in it, which is what you originally said before adding different circumstances | |||
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"From the government website regarding smoking on vehicles Smoking in work vehicles Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than one person uses, eg: taxis buses vans goods vehicles used by more than one driver company cars used by more than one employee A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees. " The employer can not legislate for for letting you smoke in a company vehicle the same as he cant let you smoke in your office | |||
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"From the government website regarding smoking on vehicles Smoking in work vehicles Smoking isn’t allowed in any work vehicle that more than one person uses, eg: taxis buses vans goods vehicles used by more than one driver company cars used by more than one employee A worker can smoke in a company car that only they use if their employer agrees. The employer can not legislate for for letting you smoke in a company vehicle the same as he cant let you smoke in your office " So you've read the law have you? | |||
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" But its not an offence to smoke in it, which is what you originally said before adding different circumstances" Ok, here goes... If you have ever carried a person in your van, if a person has ever sat in your van it is classed as a place of work it is an offence to smoke in it. So unless no one gets in your van since the day you collected the van from the dealer until you sell the van you are committing the offence. So unless you service/repair your van and sell it before it needs an MOT you will have committed the offence... Example... You take your friend to collect his car from a garage, 6 months later you smoke in your van you have committed the offence... | |||
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" But its not an offence to smoke in it, which is what you originally said before adding different circumstances Ok, here goes... If you have ever carried a person in your van, if a person has ever sat in your van it is classed as a place of work it is an offence to smoke in it. So unless no one gets in your van since the day you collected the van from the dealer until you sell the van you are committing the offence. So unless you service/repair your van and sell it before it needs an MOT you will have committed the offence... Example... You take your friend to collect his car from a garage, 6 months later you smoke in your van you have committed the offence... " Nonsense | |||
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" But its not an offence to smoke in it, which is what you originally said before adding different circumstances Ok, here goes... If you have ever carried a person in your van, if a person has ever sat in your van it is classed as a place of work it is an offence to smoke in it. So unless no one gets in your van since the day you collected the van from the dealer until you sell the van you are committing the offence. So unless you service/repair your van and sell it before it needs an MOT you will have committed the offence... Example... You take your friend to collect his car from a garage, 6 months later you smoke in your van you have committed the offence... Nonsense" Having re-read the act, I was wrong about the MOT tester and mechanic for which I apologise. However if anyone else uses the vehicle you are committing the offence... As I said there was a well publicised case where a guy was found guilty of smoking in a works van even though he worked on his own... Don't forget it's also an offence not to display a "No Smoking" sign in a works vehicle... | |||
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" Example... You take your friend to collect his car from a garage, 6 months later you smoke in your van you have committed the offence... Nonsense" As much as it pains me to ever use anything from the Daily Mail, the time lapse is correct. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1038301/Painter-given-30-fine-smoking-work--van.html The prosecution stated "The regulations state that a vehicle shall be smoke-free if it is used for work by more than one person - regardless of whether they are in the vehicle at the same time.' | |||
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" Example... You take your friend to collect his car from a garage, 6 months later you smoke in your van you have committed the offence... Nonsense As much as it pains me to ever use anything from the Daily Mail, the time lapse is correct. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1038301/Painter-given-30-fine-smoking-work--van.html The prosecution stated "The regulations state that a vehicle shall be smoke-free if it is used for work by more than one person - regardless of whether they are in the vehicle at the same time.' " But don`t forget the police could fine for "not having full control of your vehicle" or whatever it is they call it if you are smoking, drinking, eating or anything else that may distract your attention whilst you are in charge of the vehicle. That may even be when stopped in traffic. | |||
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" Ps... For the guy smoking in his van. If it is used for work it is classed as a place of work. So even if you work alone it's still an offence to smoke in it... Nonsense" No, it's actually true! You cannot smoke in works vehicles, even if you are alone. We can't in ours, big red stickers in em! | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand" It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van? | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van?" That is not the point is it? | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van? That is not the point is it?" Ok, I will admit maybe not for you but for 99% of vans it is. You never said that you never have anyone in your van. So in all likelihood it does include your van but you are just being awkward... | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van? That is not the point is it? Ok, I will admit maybe not for you but for 99% of vans it is. You never said that you never have anyone in your van. So in all likelihood it does include your van but you are just being awkward..." No I am not. I never said anything. So to say I was committing an offence was not true was it? | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van? That is not the point is it? Ok, I will admit maybe not for you but for 99% of vans it is. You never said that you never have anyone in your van. So in all likelihood it does include your van but you are just being awkward..." Whether I am being awkward or not is not the point is it? What does my awkwardness have to do with the law? | |||
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"Smoking is so anti social now anyway And it all depends how much respect you have for your employer , his equipment etc And even if you own your own van how much respect you have for your Mrs if she doesn't smoke but definitely your children if you have them i think it's about the respect you have for other people that counts and just because you don't smoke in the vehicle house flat etc at the time you have a non smoker there the lingering smell stays for ages " FFs get a life! | |||
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"Smoking is so anti social now anyway And it all depends how much respect you have for your employer , his equipment etc And even if you own your own van how much respect you have for your Mrs if she doesn't smoke but definitely your children if you have them i think it's about the respect you have for other people that counts and just because you don't smoke in the vehicle house flat etc at the time you have a non smoker there the lingering smell stays for ages FFs get a life!" Classy reply | |||
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"Smoking is so anti social now anyway And it all depends how much respect you have for your employer , his equipment etc And even if you own your own van how much respect you have for your Mrs if she doesn't smoke but definitely your children if you have them i think it's about the respect you have for other people that counts and just because you don't smoke in the vehicle house flat etc at the time you have a non smoker there the lingering smell stays for ages FFs get a life! Classy reply " Well what would you expect from a filthy smoker | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van? That is not the point is it? Ok, I will admit maybe not for you but for 99% of vans it is. You never said that you never have anyone in your van. So in all likelihood it does include your van but you are just being awkward... No I am not. I never said anything. So to say I was committing an offence was not true was it?" All you have to do is answer two simple questions.... 1. Do you smoke in your van? 2. Do you ever allow anyone in your van? If the answer is yes to both, you are committing an offence. If the answer to one of them is no never, you are not committing an offence. | |||
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"Smoking is so anti social now anyway And it all depends how much respect you have for your employer , his equipment etc And even if you own your own van how much respect you have for your Mrs if she doesn't smoke but definitely your children if you have them i think it's about the respect you have for other people that counts and just because you don't smoke in the vehicle house flat etc at the time you have a non smoker there the lingering smell stays for ages FFs get a life! Classy reply Well what would you expect from a filthy smoker" | |||
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"You need to do two things. Cover the tracker in tin foil. Cover your cock in tin foil. If you do this it's going to be ok bro. Does he not need to attach both to the battery?" yes but you need 24 volts | |||
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"There are so many 'ifs' in this thread so ok. If I buy a van today for work and I am the only one who is going to be using it or sitting in it and I am sitting smoking in it then I am not committing any offence. End of. Why is that so hard to understand It's not difficult to understand but can you hand on heart say you have never had another person in your van? Realistically how many work vans never have another person in the van? That is not the point is it? Ok, I will admit maybe not for you but for 99% of vans it is. You never said that you never have anyone in your van. So in all likelihood it does include your van but you are just being awkward... No I am not. I never said anything. So to say I was committing an offence was not true was it? All you have to do is answer two simple questions.... 1. Do you smoke in your van? 2. Do you ever allow anyone in your van? If the answer is yes to both, you are committing an offence. If the answer to one of them is no never, you are not committing an offence." don't forget its now an offence to smoke in a vehicle with anyone under the age of 18 in it | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles! I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. " You are wrong. The vehicles belong to my company and I own the company. The trackers send almost real-time data to a screen in my office 24/7. I can check their location anytime I wish. As a direct result of this thread I have issued a written statement to all my drivers regarding out-of-hours "private" use of the vehicles... Just in case the OP is one of my employees!!  | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles! I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. You are wrong. The vehicles belong to my company and I own the company. The trackers send almost real-time data to a screen in my office 24/7. I can check their location anytime I wish. As a direct result of this thread I have issued a written statement to all my drivers regarding out-of-hours "private" use of the vehicles... Just in case the OP is one of my employees!! "I am glad I am not the only one that gets annoyed with posts like this i often wonder how many people would actually take their car home if they got the full 3400 tax bill for a company car with free fuel Just because your given a man to use for work does not mean it's your private motor car at the weekend or evening to do with as you please It seems as always that people think they know how to run decent hard working people like us businesses better than we do | |||
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"As a employer, I can tell you that if you were using one of my company vehicles for private use whilst away on tasks, I would have serious issues with you, if only for the fact that my fleet insurance does not cover the vehicle for "private" use unless there is specific written consent (for example when one of the drivers borrows the vehicle to move house). And I do have trackers fitted to all my vehicles! I may be wrong here. But unless there is an accident or the vehicle goes missing. There is no need to check the tracker report. As far as I'm aware as a company unless of these or other circumstances where you need to locate a vehicle. You sould not be tracking vehicles outside of company hours due to privacy laws.. You are wrong. The vehicles belong to my company and I own the company. The trackers send almost real-time data to a screen in my office 24/7. I can check their location anytime I wish. As a direct result of this thread I have issued a written statement to all my drivers regarding out-of-hours "private" use of the vehicles... Just in case the OP is one of my employees!!
I am glad I am not the only one that gets annoyed with posts like this
i often wonder how many people would actually take their car home if they got the full 3400 tax bill for a company car with free fuel
Just because your given a man to use for work does not mean it's your private motor car at the weekend or evening to do with as you please
It seems as always that people think they know how to run decent hard working people like us businesses better than we do
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"Ive just been given a van from work with a tracker. Having my ever move tracked isn't good for my swinging life style. Ive looked for a jammer on ebay but no luck. Could somebody in the know give me some advice." I have an ingenium tracker in my work car that im allowed to use personally. If you got the same u should have a login for their site and you select which journeys are business and which are private. Private journeys are automatically blocked from prying eyes. | |||
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"Before anyone asks im allowed to use my car for personal use and even have a nominated second driver. I do have a company fuel card, but pay 7p a mile for personal mileage and also lose 3k in personal tax allowance to cover the use of the car." That's the correct way to do it | |||
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