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Clarification please… xx TG.. TV… TS … CD
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By *oney2 OP Couple 2 weeks ago
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Just seen a profile which confused me so would like clarification…
So this profile had Man on it, but then it was a man dressed in ‘typical women’s clothing and lingerie.’ Then further down in the description it had TGIRL.
So it didn’t have TV/TS on the account.
Now does TGIRL stand for transsexual man meaning a man who enjoys dressing feminine but identifies as man in woman’s clothes?
OR does TGIRL stand for a man whom has fully transitioned from male to female?
I also ask as I have seen clubs having single females and couples m/f nights ONLY
but then allowing ‘TGIRLS’ entry so would this mean fully transitioned tgirls so they would then come under the single females umbrella or do they mean men dressing feminine are allowed entry … because isn’t that then basically just a single man..???
No offence meant in this post just wanted clarification or people’s own opinions on what the definition TGIRL meant across this site. |
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By *glyBettyTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
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By *9alMan 2 weeks ago
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I identify as a man but do sometimes dress up in women's underwear for sexual encounters. some dress up a lot of the time & look quite convincing when dressed , some feel that they are women trapped in the wrong body, some take hormones & seek surgery , some have completely transitioned. Externally they may not look that different, what they are looking for sexually is the important question for me |
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"To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
Yippee "
Oh boy, this is going to be an 'interesting' thread   |
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By *oney2 OP Couple 2 weeks ago
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"To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
Yippee
Oh boy, this is going to be an 'interesting' thread "
Ok so I’ve had a nosey at your profile in some of your pictures you present as a ‘normal male’ so do you think it’s fair/right for yourself to gain FREE entry into a
woman’s/m/f couples only night due to the fact at times you like to dress up ?
I’m not trying to cause offence just want honest true opinions.
My personal view is if you have fully transitioned ( gone from male to female because you feel you’re in the wrong body)
then you can gain FREE entry as you present 100% always as female and you have female gender parts |
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T girl is the umbrella term for some. I tend to not class the ropey crossdressers in a cheap nylon wig as a T girl in my own head, just a crossdresser, but I'm probably just being a snob and I don't go out of my way to tell people I don't entirely agree with how they classify themselves. As long as someone is at least making the effort I'm not going to try and bring them down.
A big thing with sexuality is the divide between whether it's an attraction to specific genitalia or if it's an attraction to the aesthetic. Plenty of men who continue to think of themselves as straight have no issue fucking or getting a blowjob from a tgirl, plenty of straight women are absolutely not interested in the feminine look even if they do have a massive Wang. Back before my FTM trans partner had his surgeries and was called by a shit roommate the tranny with a fanny, I was attracted to his masculinity, that he happened to still have a vagina at that point wasn't that important to me.
Someone shouldn't get in for free because they self identify as the loophole for single people of their current genitalia. But if someone is actively presenting as then it's all good.
I did have a little while thinking about this the other day after an issue with someone in male mode t-shirt and joggers tried to come into a FemDomme event as a Dom because they identified as female, while making absolutely no effort to present the energy that the event was about. I had absolutely no issue with those radiating feminine energy and aesthetic in a Domme role, but that athleisure oh I identify as person is very much a part of the political issue to me 💜 |
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Tgirl is a pretty elastic term used for a wide variety of expression. I’ve never really thought too much about what or who does or does not come under the umbrella. Someone could have a feminine energy without necessarily wanting to adopt a female trope or exact appearance. Fembois for example. Drag queens, who push the hyper feminine aesthetic to the limits, also make a point of showing themselves in drab. If you can’t see the difference then what’s the point I guess is the idea.
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By *oney2 OP Couple 2 weeks ago
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"Tgirl is a pretty elastic term used for a wide variety of expression. I’ve never really thought too much about what or who does or does not come under the umbrella. Someone could have a feminine energy without necessarily wanting to adopt a female trope or exact appearance. Fembois for example. Drag queens, who push the hyper feminine aesthetic to the limits, also make a point of showing themselves in drab. If you can’t see the difference then what’s the point I guess is the idea.
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You’re beautiful
What I worry about is straight males pretending to be cd/tv/ts and gaining entry to these cpl only events and also gaining entry FREE!!!!! |
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Oh god, this again.
This will be a lengthy discussion with no resolution, because surprisingly it's hard, and unnecessary, to fit everyone in a little box and the answer to that isn't making more little boxes to define everyone differently.
It doesn't matter what someone wants to identify as, if you find them hot, fuck them.
With regards to entry for club nights every club will have a different definition and mostly it seems to be how you are presenting on arrival. |
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Having 'TV/TS' on my account has been... Problematic.
I think I'm a man in lingerie.
Some people, including the guy who fucked me ragged this afternoon think I'm a 'tgirl'
Although I suppose I'm not really a man as I identify as non-binary.
It's a total minefield and the catchall category of TV/TS on here doesn't help. |
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"Tgirl is a pretty elastic term used for a wide variety of expression. I’ve never really thought too much about what or who does or does not come under the umbrella. Someone could have a feminine energy without necessarily wanting to adopt a female trope or exact appearance. Fembois for example. Drag queens, who push the hyper feminine aesthetic to the limits, also make a point of showing themselves in drab. If you can’t see the difference then what’s the point I guess is the idea.
You’re beautiful
What I worry about is straight males pretending to be cd/tv/ts and gaining entry to these cpl only events and also gaining entry FREE!!!!! "
The majority of Tgirls (combined sub categories) are straight. |
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By *_Mia_XTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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Tgirl often represents someone who presents themselves in a feminine way. Its a unbrella term to encompass everyone. This is then broken down into smaller catagories:
CD- (cross dresser) someone who wears clothes as the opposite gender. This typically doesn’t have to be “full time”
TV- (transvestite) is a similar term as CD.
TS and/or TG (transsexual (older term) and Transgender (more widely used outside of swinging scene)) - someone who identifies as the opposite gender assigned at birth. People can go through medical transition routeways or not. But live this 24/7 as it is their identity.
In terms of clubs each one has its own policies around these type of events and based on those will determine what entry is allowed or not. |
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"Let's stop labelling people and understand that people are attracted to different people full stop. No need to bring cock, vaginas tits etc into the conversation, just leave it to attraction "
this.
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By *_Mia_XTV/TS 2 weeks ago
Ilkeston |
"What does everyone think would be the best to thing to have instead of the TV category on here, or should it let you just type it in instead of picking from a list? "
A few other sites seperate all the catagories eg TV, TS ect |
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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago
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"To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
Yippee
Oh boy, this is going to be an 'interesting' thread "
In my view it's a grey area, HPW, TS, TV,CD,Transperson, Shemales, sissyboi, ladyboy. Who cares if the profile gets your juices going what's in a name. Oh by the way I identify as a Yellow plastic coated paperclip. Why? Well I like plastic, yellow is a nice colour and I'm good at holding things together. Have fun all you confused folk and to the rest of us, who cares. |
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"To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
Yippee
Oh boy, this is going to be an 'interesting' thread
In my view it's a grey area, HPW, TS, TV,CD,Transperson, Shemales, sissyboi, ladyboy. Who cares if the profile gets your juices going what's in a name. Oh by the way I identify as a Yellow plastic coated paperclip. Why? Well I like plastic, yellow is a nice colour and I'm good at holding things together. Have fun all you confused folk and to the rest of us, who cares."
This.
No one really cares. All this energy on label nonsense. |
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By *oney2 OP Couple 2 weeks ago
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"To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
Yippee
Oh boy, this is going to be an 'interesting' thread
In my view it's a grey area, HPW, TS, TV,CD,Transperson, Shemales, sissyboi, ladyboy. Who cares if the profile gets your juices going what's in a name. Oh by the way I identify as a Yellow plastic coated paperclip. Why? Well I like plastic, yellow is a nice colour and I'm good at holding things together. Have fun all you confused folk and to the rest of us, who cares.
This.
No one really cares. All this energy on label nonsense. "
It’s not so much the label nonsense…
It’s the fact that a biological male is getting into a couples/females only night if he/she presents that night as a tv/cd/ts for the night … I think it shouldn’t be allowed .. but each club to their own I guess .. we just wouldn’t attend … and I know a few others wouldn’t either …
If it’s going to be couples m/f and single f only then so be it … why confuse it even more ….
Moving on anyway ……  |
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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago
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"Having 'TV/TS' on my account has been... Problematic.
I think I'm a man in lingerie.
Some people, including the guy who fucked me ragged this afternoon think I'm a 'tgirl'
Although I suppose I'm not really a man as I identify as non-binary.
It's a total minefield and the catchall category of TV/TS on here doesn't help."
Gosh if category was split down it would be never ending. Man with a cock who likes to dress as a woman. Is still a man with a cock.
I'm not sure what I am I do like guys who look convincing when dressed.  |
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"To the actual people within the community, t-girl is used a catch-all term for everyone on the t-spectrum, at whatever stage they're at
What it means to the normies on here is almost certainly going to be another matter entirely, and I look forward to all the weird and wonderful things outsiders are going to say it means to them in this thread, as they attempt to redefine a term we often use internally to refer to ourselves.
Yippee
Oh boy, this is going to be an 'interesting' thread
In my view it's a grey area, HPW, TS, TV,CD,Transperson, Shemales, sissyboi, ladyboy. Who cares if the profile gets your juices going what's in a name. Oh by the way I identify as a Yellow plastic coated paperclip. Why? Well I like plastic, yellow is a nice colour and I'm good at holding things together. Have fun all you confused folk and to the rest of us, who cares.
This.
No one really cares. All this energy on label nonsense.
It’s not so much the label nonsense…
It’s the fact that a biological male is getting into a couples/females only night if he/she presents that night as a tv/cd/ts for the night … I think it shouldn’t be allowed .. but each club to their own I guess .. we just wouldn’t attend … and I know a few others wouldn’t either …
If it’s going to be couples m/f and single f only then so be it … why confuse it even more ….
Moving on anyway …… "
Separate points.
I agree Tv/cd/ts should not be admitted to an event specifically for women and only couples events if they are attending as part of a couple. Seems pretty straightforward to me. |
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