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"firstly id like to apologise for my language and i just hope this does not offend anyone and if it does i do apologise *clears throat* Dominic Cummings you good sir are a CUNT as well as a waste of blood and organs The End" So that's a "Go" then? | |||
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"firstly id like to apologise for my language and i just hope this does not offend anyone and if it does i do apologise *clears throat* Dominic Cummings you good sir are a CUNT as well as a waste of blood and organs The End So that's a "Go" then?" indeed :D | |||
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"He should GO and I am sure the Durham is missing the city idiot. Dont worry he has been found alive living in a gutter. And is currently employed by the bungling Buffon BoJo and going under the name of Domonic Cummings " i refer to BoJo as..... Mr Wispy because of this fucking hair | |||
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"Not my favorite Clash song but I’m on team go. T" what about Gloria Gaynor - i Will Survive? Go on now, go, walk out the door Just turn around now, 'cause you're not welcome anymore | |||
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"Simple question GO" The collective noun for a group of weasels is aptly "a confusion of weasels" Go!  | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical"  Indeed. Maybe we should call on all the media outlets present to sack their Reporters. Better still call the Police and have them arrested and fined.  | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical Indeed. Maybe we should call on all the media outlets present to sack their Reporters. Better still call the Police and have them arrested and fined. "Yup There they were pointing their accusatory cameras, while doing the exact same thing themselves. Nonsense | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical" What has that got to do with Mr Cummings conduct? | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical What has that got to do with Mr Cummings conduct? " See my post above | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical What has that got to do with Mr Cummings conduct? See my post above" Once again what relevance does that have to Mr Cummings conduct? | |||
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" Once again what relevance does that have to Mr Cummings conduct? " When you report hypocricy don't be hypocritical while doing so.  | |||
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" Once again what relevance does that have to Mr Cummings conduct? When you report hypocricy don't be hypocritical while doing so. "Other's hypocrisy does not excuse his | |||
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" Once again what relevance does that have to Mr Cummings conduct? When you report hypocricy don't be hypocritical while doing so.
Other's hypocrisy does not excuse his"Indeed it doesn't - but call them both out with equal weight. | |||
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" Once again what relevance does that have to Mr Cummings conduct? When you report hypocricy don't be hypocritical while doing so.
Other's hypocrisy does not excuse his
Indeed it doesn't - but call them both out with equal weight.
"If you want to start a thread condemning the reporters behaviour, by all means do, they should answer for thier conduct, as should Mr Cummings | |||
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"Go. He broke the rules. The instruction was to stay at home, not 'stay at home but travel if you have child care needs'. " The instruction was also " if you go to work, ensure you stay 2m apart" Should the photographers outside his home go too? | |||
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" If you want to start a thread condemning the reporters behaviour, by all means do, they should answer for thier conduct, as should Mr Cummings " No thanks. Here is perfectly apt.  | |||
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"Go. He broke the rules. The instruction was to stay at home, not 'stay at home but travel if you have child care needs'. The instruction was also " if you go to work, ensure you stay 2m apart" Should the photographers outside his home go too?" "These other people did something wrong too" is not a defence. | |||
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" If you want to start a thread condemning the reporters behaviour, by all means do, they should answer for thier conduct, as should Mr Cummings No thanks. Here is perfectly apt. "Because you can't focus on his conduct without trying to deflect? The reporter's conduct was reprehensible, however they, unlike Mr Cummings, had no part in crafting the rules that they were breaking. | |||
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" If you want to start a thread condemning the reporters behaviour, by all means do, they should answer for thier conduct, as should Mr Cummings No thanks. Here is perfectly apt.
Because you can't focus on his conduct without trying to deflect?
The reporter's conduct was reprehensible, however they, unlike Mr Cummings, had no part in crafting the rules that they were breaking. "I have already written on another thread that he should go. Also reporters love to quote that their job is to bring Governments to task. | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical What has that got to do with Mr Cummings conduct? " nothing but its a nice deflection expect tory press to come out with nicey nicey pubs re opening romours to keep the peasa... sorry populace distracted bread and circuses works every time | |||
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"If he stays, I'm going to try and sort a meet out. One country and all that. " With you 100% | |||
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"If he stays, I'm going to try and sort a meet out. One country and all that. With you 100%" Ha ha weird logic | |||
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"Journalists questions re cummings during today's briefing. " How many ways to ask the same question....... dull. | |||
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"Definitely go Saying they needed childcare is no excuse. I’m sure there are lots of other families around the country in the same boat who stuck to the guidelines. Why should he be allowed to be different? " He shouldn't but he's obviously "special". | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. " He wasn't ill, confirmed on BBC, he had no symptoms when they left london | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. " He has got local family though. His wife had covid19 he didn’t. He could have had a test but didn’t. If you’re in that position you have to practice what you preach in my opinion. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. " I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. " When in the public eye one must be seen to be following set guidelines. Neither of the cummings were hospitalised, so their bout wasn't THAT bad. It's unlikely they were both poorly at the same time. No way should it be one rule for us but none for them. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. " I would also say I think it’s irresponsible to drive that far with a 4 year old in the car if you are ill. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. " He had NO SYMPTOMS! | |||
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"But he's a Tory? So should be sacked because the government needs to be weakened as much as possible. Right?" right ! He undermined the government public message | |||
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"I just watched a report on the BBC. At least twenty papparazi trying to take pics of him putting stuff in his car None of them even trying to distance from each other. Farcical" It makes a mockery of it doesn't it. | |||
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"He was travelling while apparently symptomatic. So yes, definitely he should go. Not resign, but be sacked. In truth that’s never going to happen, as he has Boris, by his non-existent balls!!" I just heard on the news it was his wife with symptoms... Hummm | |||
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"Simple question GO" The question is irrelevant ...... what should be asked is “who now gives a f**k about lockdown rules now that the key strategist for writing and amending uk gov guidance has been identified breaking them?” This leadership example is the worse ever, insincerity personified. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. He had NO SYMPTOMS! " Downing Street are saying he did have symptoms. | |||
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"Quote from ACMO from the daily breifing.. "there are exception allowed when there are safeguarding issues, for instance when there is a SEVERE risk to life". He had no symptoms when they made the decision to go, call me cynical, but I'd suggest that does not sound like there was a severe risk to life.. " enough to be playing abba in the back garden for people to hear... if it gets to the point where your playing "dancing queen" you know your life was in danger!!! p.s the other thing... they are throwing durham police under the bus as well to protect him... well.... not chance anyone in the north east is listening to them now!!!!! | |||
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"Quote from ACMO from the daily breifing.. "there are exception allowed when there are safeguarding issues, for instance when there is a SEVERE risk to life". He had no symptoms when they made the decision to go, call me cynical, but I'd suggest that does not sound like there was a severe risk to life.. " Agreed. He should GO. It should notbe one rule for BJs mates and another for the rest of us!  | |||
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"Quote from ACMO from the daily breifing.. "there are exception allowed when there are safeguarding issues, for instance when there is a SEVERE risk to life". He had no symptoms when they made the decision to go, call me cynical, but I'd suggest that does not sound like there was a severe risk to life.. enough to be playing abba in the back garden for people to hear... if it gets to the point where your playing "dancing queen" you know your life was in danger!!! p.s the other thing... they are throwing durham police under the bus as well to protect him... well.... not chance anyone in the north east is listening to them now!!!!! "Will be interesting to see if there is an actual police report . And what will happen if one is or isn’t found | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. He had NO SYMPTOMS! Downing Street are saying he did have symptoms. " Apparently his statement was that he made the trip "in case" childcare was needed. That does NOT match the caveat of "life-threatening" as mentioned. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. He had NO SYMPTOMS! Downing Street are saying he did have symptoms. " BBC says differant "In a statement, Downing Street said: "Owing to his wife being infected with suspected coronavirus and the high likelihood that he would himself become unwell, it was essential for Dominic Cummings to ensure his young child could be properly cared for" | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. He had NO SYMPTOMS! Downing Street are saying he did have symptoms. " Pretty sure whatever he drives he wouldn't have made that trip without stopping for petrol, don't believe what Downing Street says. Under no circumstances can he remain | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. " Finally a post with some sense, would love to see how the go brigade would act in the same situation. | |||
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"I'd have done the same thing if it was for the sake of my child's health." So would I but we're not in the public eye. He has to face the consequences. | |||
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"I'd have done the same thing if it was for the sake of my child's health. So would I but we're not in the public eye. He has to face the consequences. " Our consequences probably would have been fines. | |||
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"I'd have done the same thing if it was for the sake of my child's health. So would I but we're not in the public eye. He has to face the consequences. " So because he's in the public eye he should be hung drawn and quartered? For looking after his child? Really? | |||
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"Bloody hell, I dread to think how you guys treat your own kids if this is how you respond to someone looking out for their child's welfare "Come on Keeley, it looks like an excuse. Normal people would flout the rules and still be prepared to pay the consequences. | |||
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"Go. I find it really hard to believe he knows no one else in London that could've looked after his kid." They have relatives in London. | |||
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"Bloody hell, I dread to think how you guys treat your own kids if this is how you respond to someone looking out for their child's welfare
Come on Keeley, it looks like an excuse. Normal people would flout the rules and still be prepared to pay the consequences. "It doesn't matter what it looks like, would you lose your job doing the same thing or get a fine? | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. Finally a post with some sense, would love to see how the go brigade would act in the same situation." I would have stayed isolated, got tested and in the unfortunate event of requiring help for my child I would have called on family that lived in London. Not jumped in a car supposedly ill and driven with a young child all the way to Durham. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. Finally a post with some sense, would love to see how the go brigade would act in the same situation. I would have stayed isolated, got tested and in the unfortunate event of requiring help for my child I would have called on family that lived in London. Not jumped in a car supposedly ill and driven with a young child all the way to Durham. " I have family members I wouldn't leave my worst enemy with, let alone my child. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. Finally a post with some sense, would love to see how the go brigade would act in the same situation. I would have stayed isolated, got tested and in the unfortunate event of requiring help for my child I would have called on family that lived in London. Not jumped in a car supposedly ill and driven with a young child all the way to Durham. " Exactly | |||
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"I'd have done the same thing if it was for the sake of my child's health. So would I but we're not in the public eye. He has to face the consequences. So because he's in the public eye he should be hung drawn and quartered? For looking after his child? Really?" It’s absolutely nothing to do with the emotional sympathies being expressed about his child, his wife or even him. It’s 100% about the shocking and deplorable example of leadership he set to the society he was writing guidelines for. Frankly the dysfunction of saying one thing but doing another is as an effective signal as any to drop obeying the guidelines and do whatever you want. Truly an awful example and tremendously disappointing. | |||
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"I'd have done the same thing if it was for the sake of my child's health. So would I but we're not in the public eye. He has to face the consequences. So because he's in the public eye he should be hung drawn and quartered? For looking after his child? Really?" He has family in London. I think it’s irresponsible to drive so far with a child in the if you’re ill. Why didn’t he have a test and wait for the results? You can’t preach the rules and not observe them. People will lose confidence in my opinion. | |||
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"Bloody hell, I dread to think how you guys treat your own kids if this is how you respond to someone looking out for their child's welfare
Come on Keeley, it looks like an excuse. Normal people would flout the rules and still be prepared to pay the consequences.
It doesn't matter what it looks like, would you lose your job doing the same thing or get a fine? "I would be prepared to for the sake of my child if it was truly necesssry. People in the public eye have to be beyond reproach. The man admitted it was "in case" he got ill. So on this basis every single parent can travel a couple hundred miles for their child "in case" they need childcare. It's bollocks. | |||
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"Go. I find it really hard to believe he knows no one else in London that could've looked after his kid. They have relatives in London. " his sister (well, his wifes sister) lives in london! Dominic Cummings, wife and child self-isolated in Durham property with relatives dropping off food. But the relatives did *not* look after the child so "safeguarding" excuse isn't relevant. she (the wife) wrote an article in the spectator about have the virus and self isolating IN LONDON Why not just stay in London?..... the stories and the excuses don't add up and this is the hill that apparently the government are willing to die on! | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. Finally a post with some sense, would love to see how the go brigade would act in the same situation. I would have stayed isolated, got tested and in the unfortunate event of requiring help for my child I would have called on family that lived in London. Not jumped in a car supposedly ill and driven with a young child all the way to Durham. I have family members I wouldn't leave my worst enemy with, let alone my child. " But you don’t know that is the case here and if they live in London they I’m pretty sure they would have been able to call on someone in their hour of need, you could go round and around with that one. He didn’t even have covid. It doesn’t matter. He didn’t get a test and check. He disregarded the rules. | |||
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"Go. I find it really hard to believe he knows no one else in London that could've looked after his kid. They have relatives in London. his sister (well, his wifes sister) lives in london! Dominic Cummings, wife and child self-isolated in Durham property with relatives dropping off food. But the relatives did *not* look after the child so "safeguarding" excuse isn't relevant. she (the wife) wrote an article in the spectator about have the virus and self isolating IN LONDON Why not just stay in London?..... the stories and the excuses don't add up and this is the hill that apparently the government are willing to die on! " And they deserve to. | |||
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"Everyone has to make the best decision for themselves . And limit the risk to others. His risk was a lot less than all the hundreds of people going to visit Tom Moore’s house. Like Michael ball who travelled to see him just to interview him briefly. Yet they are praised continuously. People want to blame the government and have them all sacked as they are seen as evil. And to have one sacked is like some kind of weird victory . They are all there as they were voted in. " Forgive me ..... I had no idea the whole lockdown thing was actually meant to be appraised on a case-by-case basis. Who should you or I have applied to for an exemption to do whatever we want ? | |||
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"Go. I find it really hard to believe he knows no one else in London that could've looked after his kid. They have relatives in London. his sister (well, his wifes sister) lives in london! Dominic Cummings, wife and child self-isolated in Durham property with relatives dropping off food. But the relatives did *not* look after the child so "safeguarding" excuse isn't relevant. she (the wife) wrote an article in the spectator about have the virus and self isolating IN LONDON Why not just stay in London?..... the stories and the excuses don't add up and this is the hill that apparently the government are willing to die on! " The wife got ill and they knew that were going to have to isolate for two weeks no matter what, they decided it would be nicer to do it up north rather than in London, end of story. Any other spin on this is just that, spin. He wasn't sick, there were no safeguarding issues, no risk to life. He broke the rules, rules he helped to draft and impose on others. He needs to go | |||
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"Everyone has to make the best decision for themselves . And limit the risk to others. His risk was a lot less than all the hundreds of people going to visit Tom Moore’s house. Like Michael ball who travelled to see him just to interview him briefly. Yet they are praised continuously. People want to blame the government and have them all sacked as they are seen as evil. And to have one sacked is like some kind of weird victory . They are all there as they were voted in. Forgive me ..... I had no idea the whole lockdown thing was actually meant to be appraised on a case-by-case basis. Who should you or I have applied to for an exemption to do whatever we want ? " The problem is people do do whatever they want. And everyone chooses what risk they feel is ok. You may think that everyone is hiding under their own roof but they are not. | |||
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"Everyone has to make the best decision for themselves . And limit the risk to others. His risk was a lot less than all the hundreds of people going to visit Tom Moore’s house. Like Michael ball who travelled to see him just to interview him briefly. Yet they are praised continuously. People want to blame the government and have them all sacked as they are seen as evil. And to have one sacked is like some kind of weird victory . They are all there as they were voted in. Forgive me ..... I had no idea the whole lockdown thing was actually meant to be appraised on a case-by-case basis. Who should you or I have applied to for an exemption to do whatever we want ? The problem is people do do whatever they want. And everyone chooses what risk they feel is ok. You may think that everyone is hiding under their own roof but they are not. " I disagree .... it’s all about leadership and doing the right thing for others (e.g. you and me) to follow. | |||
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"Go. I find it really hard to believe he knows no one else in London that could've looked after his kid. They have relatives in London. his sister (well, his wifes sister) lives in london! Dominic Cummings, wife and child self-isolated in Durham property with relatives dropping off food. But the relatives did *not* look after the child so "safeguarding" excuse isn't relevant. she (the wife) wrote an article in the spectator about have the virus and self isolating IN LONDON Why not just stay in London?..... the stories and the excuses don't add up and this is the hill that apparently the government are willing to die on! The wife got ill and they knew that were going to have to isolate for two weeks no matter what, they decided it would be nicer to do it up north rather than in London, end of story. Any other spin on this is just that, spin. He wasn't sick, there were no safeguarding issues, no risk to life. He broke the rules, rules he helped to draft and impose on others. He needs to go" | |||
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"I'd have done the same thing if it was for the sake of my child's health. So would I but we're not in the public eye. He has to face the consequences. So because he's in the public eye he should be hung drawn and quartered? For looking after his child? Really? It’s absolutely nothing to do with the emotional sympathies being expressed about his child, his wife or even him. It’s 100% about the shocking and deplorable example of leadership he set to the society he was writing guidelines for. Frankly the dysfunction of saying one thing but doing another is as an effective signal as any to drop obeying the guidelines and do whatever you want. Truly an awful example and tremendously disappointing." 100% right in my view | |||
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"Everyone has to make the best decision for themselves . And limit the risk to others. His risk was a lot less than all the hundreds of people going to visit Tom Moore’s house. Like Michael ball who travelled to see him just to interview him briefly. Yet they are praised continuously. People want to blame the government and have them all sacked as they are seen as evil. And to have one sacked is like some kind of weird victory . They are all there as they were voted in. Forgive me ..... I had no idea the whole lockdown thing was actually meant to be appraised on a case-by-case basis. Who should you or I have applied to for an exemption to do whatever we want ? The problem is people do do whatever they want. And everyone chooses what risk they feel is ok. You may think that everyone is hiding under their own roof but they are not. " That may well be the case but as has been shown some of us are different in this, if your part of the group of people setting out the rules for the whole country then you abide by them.. If you didn't abide by them you will be held to a higher degree of scrutiny and responsibility than Joe bloggs at number seven.. | |||
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"Everyone has to make the best decision for themselves . And limit the risk to others. His risk was a lot less than all the hundreds of people going to visit Tom Moore’s house. Like Michael ball who travelled to see him just to interview him briefly. Yet they are praised continuously. People want to blame the government and have them all sacked as they are seen as evil. And to have one sacked is like some kind of weird victory . They are all there as they were voted in. Forgive me ..... I had no idea the whole lockdown thing was actually meant to be appraised on a case-by-case basis. Who should you or I have applied to for an exemption to do whatever we want ? The problem is people do do whatever they want. And everyone chooses what risk they feel is ok. You may think that everyone is hiding under their own roof but they are not. That may well be the case but as has been shown some of us are different in this, if your part of the group of people setting out the rules for the whole country then you abide by them.. If you didn't abide by them you will be held to a higher degree of scrutiny and responsibility than Joe bloggs at number seven.. " Couple in Lancs ... totally agree | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. " It definitely isn’t political bias. It’s about someone in a position of responsibility giving advice about what is acceptable during these times. You can’t hold that position and disregard the - your own rules. You have to be beyond reproach. It’s the nature of the beast. | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. " Let’s agree to do one thing ..... mark the date. And in two weeks time let’s compare the attitude to lockdown from this day forward. | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. " He’s an advisor telling us all to stay home even if we are not in well yet he thinks it’s fine to travel 250ish miles in his car with his sick wife. If he had had an accident or broke down his many other people would he have put at risk. This is beyond a joke and for Boris to back him it makes the whole lockdown a joke. Hope Cummings hasn’t been clapping every Thursday fucking hypocrite | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. " What he has done is absolutely undermine the stay at home message, now the rules are "open to individual interpretation".. For that alone he walks | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. It definitely isn’t political bias. It’s about someone in a position of responsibility giving advice about what is acceptable during these times. You can’t hold that position and disregard the - your own rules. You have to be beyond reproach. It’s the nature of the beast. " Spot on. If it was a labour aide or MP I'd say the same. And they are less in the public eye but still should be beyond approach. | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. " he drove family to their 2nd home to self isolate..... we all got told "if you get it.. stay where you are! do NOT go to 2nd houses!" his family still delivered food to him... i am not sure you are away... you can get deliveries of food via...erm... the internet!!!! they do that in london apparently.. who knew! at not point was the childs welfare in danger... he drove up there breaking the rules on a hypothetical, and ministers want us to call him a "good dad" for doing so! | |||
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"at best for DC its a "yes i drove to 2nd home to isolate" story... if he holds up his hands hand and says "okay.. i got caught, shouldn't have one it, i'll go!" this is a storm in a teacup.. but how dare he use the "good father" excuse... and then ministers use the "good father" excuse.... thats whats pissing me off..... the excuses are unravelling.... and its like you are taking us all for mugs!!!" Really smacks of the old schoolboy network. If he had been a medical advisor, he would have gone by now. | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. " The problem is he cant be treated as a normal member of the public, he is part of a group that instigated the lockdown and set the rules, once in that position, if you break your own rules that you help to set, you should go. They said if any member of your household shows symptoms the whole household should self isolate and not go out, they also said no vising second homes he helped to set these rules and he broke them. | |||
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"Obviously I'm not going to agreewith some of you, I don't think he's done anything that's actually harmed anyone else, he should get the fine if the police think it's appropriate but that should be the end of it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the guy, I think he's smarmy and cocky but I think alot of this comes more from political bias than you actually thinking he did anything wrong. he drove family to their 2nd home to self isolate..... we all got told "if you get it.. stay where you are! do NOT go to 2nd houses!" his family still delivered food to him... i am not sure you are away... you can get deliveries of food via...erm... the internet!!!! they do that in london apparently.. who knew! at not point was the childs welfare in danger... he drove up there breaking the rules on a hypothetical, and ministers want us to call him a "good dad" for doing so!" And sadly people are falling for it. By the minute chance he is being honest, he still needs to pay consequences due to his position. | |||
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"Go - no ifs or buts. Is the fact that there’s now quite a few People on the SAGE or public policy groups that have broken the rules the suggestion that they believe danger isn’t as great as they’re telling the general public? " I've long held the view that the danger has been overplayed considerably. That's not to say there is no danger - clearly there is - but I personally do not believe the level or risk warranted the level of response. My opinion only. Many will disagree, I understand that. | |||
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"For arguments sake put your selves in his shoes. You and your partner are both ill with covid. You have a 4 year old son. You both might end up in hospital. Who then has your son if you have no local family ? He took the decision to drive direct to a safe house where he had support. My parents live 250 miles away and I have few people local to me that i would trust to watch my kids if we were both taken ill. If I knew it would be my last opportunity to travel somewhere safe I would have driven to them as well. People are quick to want people sacked for putting their family first. I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on these forums. I quite enjoy seeing people think for themselves. He had NO SYMPTOMS! " Well if he had no symptoms he should have stayed put and looked after the child himself. Like everybody else had to. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory?" Yep voted Tory and yep he should def go you can’t tell a whole nation Stay Home Stay safe then do the total opposite | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory?" Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. " It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. " Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? | |||
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"If he stays, I'm going to try and sort a meet out. One country and all that. With you 100%" Well then you're both just bloody stupid. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. " Good | |||
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"It's not a question of politics, it's a question of law. A law he helped formulate, then decided to ignore. That law was extremely clear - stay at home. He broke it, he pays the price. Politics doesn't enter into it. " Its not a law. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? " It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first? | |||
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"It's not a question of politics, it's a question of law. A law he helped formulate, then decided to ignore. That law was extremely clear - stay at home. He broke it, he pays the price. Politics doesn't enter into it. Its not a law. " In breach of the guidance which has consequences. Those in the public eye who have done the same, resigned before the got sacked. If he is good at what he does, he will be head-hunted by the private sector. Financially it could be the best thing for him. | |||
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"He's a complete prick anyway... go!!" I don't think ive seen enough of him to have any kind of an opinion that strong about him. How did you come to that judgement on him? | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first? "Ha! Theoretically! | |||
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" Its not a law. " Actually it is - movement for anything other than four specific reasons (none of which apply in this case) was prohibited under the Coronavirus Act 2020 from March 23rd. What he did broke the law, in exactly the same way as the thousands who've been fined for driving to second homes/beauty spots or sitting on park benches did. | |||
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" It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first? "okay... you want to make it a politics then.. lets really make it a politics thing.. is it right that the government and its ministers are in effect saying that durham police have lied over the matter? | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first? "Putting his family fist? The concerned father spin is nonsense. He had no symptoms when they left London, they have other family in London (wife's sister) and when the went to the second home the child stayed with them, not with family. Its quite simple, the wife got ill and they knew they would have to isolate for 2 weeks no matter what and they decided up north would be more pleasant than London, any other spin is just that spin. He broke the rules that he helped to craft, he's been caught and he has to go. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first? "It helps the UK by showing that we all need to follow the given instructions to control the spread of the virus and that those in government are no exception. If he gets away with this then people will justifiably feel they can also travel with covid19. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. " Incorrect, Spectator link below... https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-dominic-cummings-must-go | |||
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" It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
okay... you want to make it a politics then.. lets really make it a politics thing..
is it right that the government and its ministers are in effect saying that durham police have lied over the matter?"Are they prosecuting him? Or did they visit him at home like they did to Farage after he filmed in Kent? | |||
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" It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
okay... you want to make it a politics then.. lets really make it a politics thing..
is it right that the government and its ministers are in effect saying that durham police have lied over the matter?
Are they prosecuting him? Or did they visit him at home like they did to Farage after he filmed in Kent?"they visited him after he was seen in the area....... so again.... is he above the law? | |||
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" It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
okay... you want to make it a politics then.. lets really make it a politics thing..
is it right that the government and its ministers are in effect saying that durham police have lied over the matter?
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. Incorrect, Spectator link below... https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-dominic-cummings-must-go " there was another spectator article by cummings wife, mary wakefield, about how she dealt with covid and with self isolation IN LONDON...... so obviously she lied...... | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
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" It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
okay... you want to make it a politics then.. lets really make it a politics thing..
is it right that the government and its ministers are in effect saying that durham police have lied over the matter?
Are they prosecuting him? Or did they visit him at home like they did to Farage after he filmed in Kent?
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"Stay he only did what every other caring parent would do, any parent who would not think to protect their 4 year old child should be investigated by social workers. He followed the rules to the letter if you don't agree read what was actual written " I’d be interested to know why his wife lied and why her family who live in London couldn’t look after their son. | |||
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" It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
okay... you want to make it a politics then.. lets really make it a politics thing..
is it right that the government and its ministers are in effect saying that durham police have lied over the matter?
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so again.... is he above the law?
Which "law" did he break? "scottish switch told you that 15minutes ago.... but it seems to have gone in one ear and out the other! Actually it is - movement for anything other than four specific reasons (none of which apply in this case) was prohibited under the Coronavirus Act 2020 from March 23rd. What he did broke the law, in exactly the same way as the thousands who've been fined for driving to second homes/beauty spots or sitting on park benches did. | |||
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"Stay he only did what every other caring parent would do, any parent who would not think to protect their 4 year old child should be investigated by social workers. He followed the rules to the letter if you don't agree read what was actual written " Was he shopping for essentials - No. Was he traveling to work - No. Was he seeking medial care or helping a vulnerable person - No. Was he exercising - No. He BROKE THE LAW. No politics, just law. No excuses, he needs to go. Now. | |||
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"Stay he only did what every other caring parent would do, any parent who would not think to protect their 4 year old child should be investigated by social workers. He followed the rules to the letter if you don't agree read what was actual written " He had no symptoms when they left London, they have other family in London (wife's sister) and when they went to the second home the child stayed with them, not with family. At no point was there any danger to the child. According to DCMO at todays breifing there is leeway in the lockdown measures where there is, and I quote "extreme risk to life".. Doesnt really seem to apply now does it..? | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
Ha! Theoretically!
It looks like the thought of looking after them made him flee to his mummy and daddy"Who fall into the vulnerable by age bracket so I've heard. | |||
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"Stay he only did what every other caring parent would do, any parent who would not think to protect their 4 year old child should be investigated by social workers. He followed the rules to the letter if you don't agree read what was actual written I’d be interested to know why his wife lied and why her family who live in London couldn’t look after their son." Their arrogance is astounding. One rule for them. They're packing together. But think they've pissed off too many this time. Something must happen to the prick. | |||
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"How many of you who want him sacked voted Tory? Why is that relevant? If he acted improperly he acted improperly. It's relevant because this story has become a feeding frenzy for the left. Irrelevent, he is responsible for his conduct like everyone else, of should he be protected from scrutiny? It's not as if he went walking in the hills is it?! Ffs! Do you think him being sacked is what we or the government needs in the largest national crisis since ww2? How will that help the UK? Will it make Corona go away because a man was sacked for putting his family first?
Ha! Theoretically!
It looks like the thought of looking after them made him flee to his mummy and daddy
Who fall into the vulnerable by age bracket so I've heard. "Different reports: went to parent's farm, went to house near family. So it's possible he breached shielding the vulnerable guidelines for his own aims. | |||
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"Everyone has to make the best decision for themselves . And limit the risk to others. His risk was a lot less than all the hundreds of people going to visit Tom Moore’s house. Like Michael ball who travelled to see him just to interview him briefly. Yet they are praised continuously. People want to blame the government and have them all sacked as they are seen as evil. And to have one sacked is like some kind of weird victory . They are all there as they were voted in. Forgive me ..... I had no idea the whole lockdown thing was actually meant to be appraised on a case-by-case basis. Who should you or I have applied to for an exemption to do whatever we want ? The problem is people do do whatever they want. And everyone chooses what risk they feel is ok. You may think that everyone is hiding under their own roof but they are not. " That may well be the case but as has been shown some of us are different in this, if your part of the group of people setting out the rules for the whole country then you abide by them.. If you didn't abide by them you will be held to a higher degree of scrutiny and responsibility than Joe bloggs at number seven.. | |||
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