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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago
cheshire |
When will the flu virus be over ???
This is a how long a piece of string question.
Nobody can answer it. Until we get 0 deaths ans 0 numbers of infection.but cant see that happening anytime soon.k |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The virus arealso in the warm countrys so it is not affected by the weather. I can see it be here for the next 10 years or so as we wil see new waves of it. |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
St Neots/Wisbech |
Not so much a case of when it will all be over, thats not going to happen for a long time yet, but when can we start living normally again?
More and more areas are showing 0% infection rates (ours is at 0.007%) so relatively safe here.
Common sense and judgement are whats needed now, not fear mongering and negativity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The virus arealso in the warm countrys so it is not affected by the weather. I can see it be here for the next 10 years or so as we wil see new waves of it."
It is more a case of how to live with it with this new reality, we have seen when they lighten the lockdown there is an increase of it, so they have to switch to stricter to lighter to save the economy, rather then just have a strict one there.
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If anything it's going to spread more in the colder months here, as people's habits change, more people meeting indoors. More seasonal flu, promoting more coughing and symptoms.
Just think how many people have a cold (not the flu) over the winter, will all these have to self isolate? I don't think they will, so now we will all be doctor self diagnosing a cold and not covid to avoid self isolation for your household.
Personally I think we need to get back to some normality for our own sanity and the economy. We just have to be as safe as we can while doing stuff and follow the guidelines, this will vary depending on different people risks. |
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"If anything it's going to spread more in the colder months here, as people's habits change, more people meeting indoors. More seasonal flu, promoting more coughing and symptoms.
Just think how many people have a cold (not the flu) over the winter, will all these have to self isolate? I don't think they will, so now we will all be doctor self diagnosing a cold and not covid to avoid self isolation for your household.
Personally I think we need to get back to some normality for our own sanity and the economy. We just have to be as safe as we can while doing stuff and follow the guidelines, this will vary depending on different people risks. "
Correct, and conversely, in hot countries people spend more time indoors to stay out of the heat and it's spreading.
Maybe they need adult education classes in common sense, and make them compulsory. |
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I think Trump promoted the summer heat killing it off fallacy.
It could end if humans weren't social animals, as we'd not meet to pass it around. It's in both hemispheres of the world, in winter and summer conditions and it's not gone.
As people reduce their physical contact, it reduces in levels. New Zealand got rid of it until immigrants took it in. 1 or more of the vaccines will we hope, manage to remove it from more countries. All countries in the world will likely not have equal access to the vaccines, so population movements could reintroduce it, like in New Zealand. But, if a single infection enters a country with everyone vaccinated to herd immunity levels, it won't take hold.
My guess is that it will linger in some poorer nations and then they will be targeted. That could take 4 or 5 years, possibly with the rest of the world imposing entry restrictions on people travelling from the dwindling list of countries with it.
Anti-vaccer groups will hold up or prevent herd immunity from being reached, if there are enough of them, if the virus is still around. Maybe they could be employed to travel to and work in the countries that still have the virus, providing vaccinations until the virus disappears? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hot weather does bugger all to it.
The only reason it is low now is because our warm weather is tolerable and we are outside in groups more.
Hotter countries as Brazil and the south of the USA...people are indoors more in groups using the aircon. So when winter comes we will be indoors more but due to cold weather.
It's going nowhere sadly. The vaccine and therapeutic drugs are the long term answer but social distancing is here to stay until then I think. |
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"Hot weather does bugger all to it.
The only reason it is low now is because our warm weather is tolerable and we are outside in groups more.
Hotter countries as Brazil and the south of the USA...people are indoors more in groups using the aircon. So when winter comes we will be indoors more but due to cold weather.
It's going nowhere sadly. The vaccine and therapeutic drugs are the long term answer but social distancing is here to stay until then I think."
I think flattening the curve helps a lot.
If I catch it and I carry on as normal, I spread it to 2-3 people, who each spread it to 2-3 people, etc. Exponential growth.
If I catch it and distance, I might spread to 0-1. So instead of like 1, 4, 10, 28, it becomes 1, 2, 2, 4. The less people infected the sooner this thing fucks off. It requires us to spread it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hot weather does bugger all to it.
The only reason it is low now is because our warm weather is tolerable and we are outside in groups more.
Hotter countries as Brazil and the south of the USA...people are indoors more in groups using the aircon. So when winter comes we will be indoors more but due to cold weather.
It's going nowhere sadly. The vaccine and therapeutic drugs are the long term answer but social distancing is here to stay until then I think.
I think flattening the curve helps a lot.
If I catch it and I carry on as normal, I spread it to 2-3 people, who each spread it to 2-3 people, etc. Exponential growth.
If I catch it and distance, I might spread to 0-1. So instead of like 1, 4, 10, 28, it becomes 1, 2, 2, 4. The less people infected the sooner this thing fucks off. It requires us to spread it "
And while it's still rampant in other countries..and the borders are opening again. We can only slow it down by monitoring local spikes with greater scrutiny. |
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"Hot weather does bugger all to it.
The only reason it is low now is because our warm weather is tolerable and we are outside in groups more.
Hotter countries as Brazil and the south of the USA...people are indoors more in groups using the aircon. So when winter comes we will be indoors more but due to cold weather.
It's going nowhere sadly. The vaccine and therapeutic drugs are the long term answer but social distancing is here to stay until then I think.
I think flattening the curve helps a lot.
If I catch it and I carry on as normal, I spread it to 2-3 people, who each spread it to 2-3 people, etc. Exponential growth.
If I catch it and distance, I might spread to 0-1. So instead of like 1, 4, 10, 28, it becomes 1, 2, 2, 4. The less people infected the sooner this thing fucks off. It requires us to spread it
And while it's still rampant in other countries..and the borders are opening again. We can only slow it down by monitoring local spikes with greater scrutiny."
Yes. National strategies need to be there. But individually, we need to avoid others like the plague.
... I'll see myself out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People insist on travelling around the world all of the time and so it will keep on spreading.
All I ever seem to Hear is people moaning that they just have to go abroad spending hours cooped up in metal tubes in the air or jammed into trains on ferries 
Add to that the d*unken state some people get themselves into and then distance goes out the window.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hot weather does bugger all to it.
The only reason it is low now is because our warm weather is tolerable and we are outside in groups more.
Hotter countries as Brazil and the south of the USA...people are indoors more in groups using the aircon. So when winter comes we will be indoors more but due to cold weather.
It's going nowhere sadly. The vaccine and therapeutic drugs are the long term answer but social distancing is here to stay until then I think.
I think flattening the curve helps a lot.
If I catch it and I carry on as normal, I spread it to 2-3 people, who each spread it to 2-3 people, etc. Exponential growth.
If I catch it and distance, I might spread to 0-1. So instead of like 1, 4, 10, 28, it becomes 1, 2, 2, 4. The less people infected the sooner this thing fucks off. It requires us to spread it
And while it's still rampant in other countries..and the borders are opening again. We can only slow it down by monitoring local spikes with greater scrutiny.
Yes. National strategies need to be there. But individually, we need to avoid others like the plague.
... I'll see myself out."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When we all become hermits, living in socially distance bubbles and the freedoms we enjoyed are ring fenced and controlled by the state. Hey ho, onward and upward eh. Keep on fighting. |
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"Apparently it took the Spanish flu 2 years to burn out. But who knows "
Sort of true the huge death rates slowed down after 2 years, 50 million + deaths in these first waves. It didn't really final go away til 15 to 20 years later. |
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Despite local spikes,probably due to more testing,there isn't actually huge death rates any more,Infact the this time last year average is close to par or lower, so either the virus is weakening, therapeutics work, or they now know not to stick everyone with covid on a ventalator and inflate their lungs like a hot air balloon, no doubt the Spain thing will give oxygen to the second wave fearmongering all next week though. Let's face it doom sells better than optimism for the media. |
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"Despite local spikes,probably due to more testing,there isn't actually huge death rates any more,Infact the this time last year average is close to par or lower, so either the virus is weakening, therapeutics work, or they now know not to stick everyone with covid on a ventalator and inflate their lungs like a hot air balloon, no doubt the Spain thing will give oxygen to the second wave fearmongering all next week though. Let's face it doom sells better than optimism for the media. "
I think you are pretty much right. We are doing random testing now so we have a much more accurate infection rate now. The infection before and during the peak was probably a thought higher than we thought. The main factor in the lower death rate in hospitals is medics have more understanding of the virus and have ways to stop people needing ventilators. The main things that have brought down and kept the infection rate low is obviously social distancing and improved hygiene. Another factor maybe sadly the virus has already killed a good portion of susceptible people. |
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By *ffyEffWoman
over a year ago
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Where did the idea that heat killed the virus even start??
It just doesn't make sense, and clinging to the hope that "the hotter weather will make it disappear!" Isn't helping anyone.
Look at Arizona, for example, it's been the biggest hotbed for Covid the past couple weeks not only just in the US, but the entire world.
Their weather is regularly around 40 Celsius this time of year. Heat does nothing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where did the idea that heat killed the virus even start??
It just doesn't make sense, and clinging to the hope that "the hotter weather will make it disappear!" Isn't helping anyone.
Look at Arizona, for example, it's been the biggest hotbed for Covid the past couple weeks not only just in the US, but the entire world.
Their weather is regularly around 40 Celsius this time of year. Heat does nothing. "
As I posted further up ^^
It sends people inside to cool down...it transmits better inside.
Where do we spend a lot of time in winter? |
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"Despite local spikes,probably due to more testing,there isn't actually huge death rates any more,Infact the this time last year average is close to par or lower, so either the virus is weakening, therapeutics work, or they now know not to stick everyone with covid on a ventalator and inflate their lungs like a hot air balloon, no doubt the Spain thing will give oxygen to the second wave fearmongering all next week though. Let's face it doom sells better than optimism for the media. "
It would be nice to see some balance in the media, some good news about people and places with relative success... |
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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago
Plymouth |
It's not going to be over any time soon. However, at some point we have to start doing something. Which we are now.
Personally I think international travel should've been suspended for a great deal longer. Being as that's the greatest risk of transmission as proved by New Zealand.
We live in Cornwall and the virus spread here has been low. However, tourism could have a huge impact on us. Thing is if you rely on common sense of people that's dangerous. How many people with booked holidays to cornwall who live in Leicester and Blackburn, etc will still come anyway?? Thus increasing the risk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's interesting people quoting infection rates and testing numbers. Question, where can we find legitimate accurate as possie numbers for these from a reliable source? "
Not sure if it's a link to post here. But google "ons infection weekly figures" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Be wearing mask at work till next summer,then will see .Going to be here a while longer .Had no cases for 3 weeks but lately we have .  "
If only the buggers on the estates corner shops would wear masks...used to only allow 2 people in at any one time. Now they have signs up to say you need a mask...they allow a pokey little shop to fill to the brim, and say they cant stop people who dont wear one |
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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago
Plymouth |
"Be wearing mask at work till next summer,then will see .Going to be here a while longer .Had no cases for 3 weeks but lately we have . "
I doubt we'll ever stop wearing masks in my sector now. |
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"It's interesting people quoting infection rates and testing numbers. Question, where can we find legitimate accurate as possie numbers for these from a reliable source? "
ONS, Google "local covid 19 dashboard ucl" first link, Independent Sage briefings (weekly on YouTube, the first section explains the numbers). |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"Will not be over until there is a covid 19 jab which sadly could be over a year away."
Or years away. If there is a vaccine you might need to have booster jabs according to one Cambridge scientist . It's going to be around for years like Spanish flu . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Will not be over until there is a covid 19 jab which sadly could be over a year away.
Or years away. If there is a vaccine you might need to have booster jabs according to one Cambridge scientist . It's going to be around for years like Spanish flu . "
Hopefully science is a bit more advanced then it was back then... |
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"Will not be over until there is a covid 19 jab which sadly could be over a year away.
Or years away. If there is a vaccine you might need to have booster jabs according to one Cambridge scientist . It's going to be around for years like Spanish flu .
Hopefully science is a bit more advanced then it was back then..."
And the investment in this is huge. |
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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago
warwick |
"When will the flu virus be over ???
This is a how long a piece of string question.
Nobody can answer it. Until we get 0 deaths ans 0 numbers of infection.but cant see that happening anytime soon.k"
Really , there’s no such thing a zero deaths , we all die of something......it’s just another illness to die from .....now let’s move on |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"When will the flu virus be over ???
This is a how long a piece of string question.
Nobody can answer it. Until we get 0 deaths ans 0 numbers of infection.but cant see that happening anytime soon.k
Really , there’s no such thing a zero deaths , we all die of something......it’s just another illness to die from .....now let’s move on "
they wont like you talking sense my friend |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When will the flu virus be over ???
This is a how long a piece of string question.
Nobody can answer it. Until we get 0 deaths ans 0 numbers of infection.but cant see that happening anytime soon.k
Really , there’s no such thing a zero deaths , we all die of something......it’s just another illness to die from .....now let’s move on
they wont like you talking sense my friend "
We all die at some point, gotta die of something. But it is a government responsibility, their main responsibility to keep people safe. Attitude like just get on with it just gives politicians reason to do stuff. Had to chose my words carefully there, what I meant was politicians on the whole do not care about US they only care about themselves and their kind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My problem is.
My background e.g. my mum
I've been her experiment for infection prevention.
She was into tuberculosis now she's band 7ing the situation.
I have these conversations with her and she's justdoing the protocal nonsence with me...
I am too smart. I don't watch tv. I made my own statistics. I have close friends and family telling me "we are forced to say cancer patients died of covid when they were dying of cancer"
6/2000 deaths on Friday were covid
It's bad but your "lockdown" isn't going to stop and I think it's becoming ridiculous because the disease won't be cured. It's not happening. These diseases aren't easily cured.
Just accept it. It's tuberculosis or dengue feaver. Just accept its like a medieval illness. But it's actually not as bad as black death or sweating aickness or Spanish flu.
It's not that bad. It's bad for sick people or extreamly low chance of being bad for a healthy person.
I've got worse personal problems and I've had worse health problems.
I think people are being ridiculous.
I work as "essential key worker" so I don't need telling off.
I just started going to pubs and stuff. (I don't really like alcohol)
The people freaking out about this are irrational.
Sending me out as a pawn while you hide is cowardly.
I am not being rewarded in life. I am being screwed out of opportunities. E.g. "permanent contract"
Everyone in my family has cancer. I've got people I love dying of serious things.
Covid isn't going to be cured. Stay in your homes forever if you are being true to yourselves.
But really you will give up soon and the situation will not have changed in 3 years.
Be offended by me if you like but I know these forums and how it is.
People have welcomed me back because I have my own view on things.
If you report me you are being "bolshie". That's something fab needs to stop doing.
I don't trust the government or tv.
I think everyone is doing the wrong thing and I "put myself at risk"
But really I don't feel heroic I feel other people aren't pulling their weight.
This can't continue. Your all loosing your jobs and homes. I gain from apocalypse. I get mortguage/contract/job opportunities because of dead boomers.
But really it's not like that. Covid19 is not dangerous enough to merit this kind of reaction. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was seeing a woman in hudersfield (e.g. cinema/park)
She started doing this nonsence with me about shielding. Dispite remaining in contact.
I just lost intrest.
People need to exercise and eat propper food. If you drink alcohol it's a drug. So is smoking. (I do 420)
It's not me wearning a mask or not that's going to kill you.
People have become hedonistic to unhealthy lifestyles. They are at risk but it's not politicly correct to motivate slackers.
The woman I was seeing was BBW. I literally feel attracted to different types of women but she was being ridiculous. Nice woman but if she really give a shit she would get running up hills to save herself.
I had to detach from friends also because of this. People who became like bolshie/stazi east Germans
It's always the women who get most rallied by authority. Ofcourse women are on a level with me about these things.
But "karen" is legit.
It's affected my dateing preferences STRONGLY
Some of my female colleagues think like me but they are old.
While others are covid mad. The covid mad types are hysterical about everything and have a sence of entitlement in the workplace. They always vote labour.
They shout these opinions in the staff room but opinions like mine are secretly whispered.
This forum is like a staff room
You get fired for upsetting karen
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's disappearing quite quickly according to some experts, unfortunately not the ones UKGov & The Behavioural Insights Team and Cabinet Office listen to.
Probably one of the reasons it's thriving in Brazil - as mentioned above- is down to rank poverty and all the problems that come with it?
Still, good to know that Astra Zeneca are testing their new vaccine on people from Brazil, and I guess Gates has his snout in there too.
Apparently the AZ Vax has been tested on 1,000 people already, probably Brazilian street kids with no rights, because as some experts have pointed out, it is disappearing whatever the machinery would have us believe. |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"It's disappearing quite quickly according to some experts, unfortunately not the ones UKGov & The Behavioural Insights Team and Cabinet Office listen to.
Probably one of the reasons it's thriving in Brazil - as mentioned above- is down to rank poverty and all the problems that come with it?
Still, good to know that Astra Zeneca are testing their new vaccine on people from Brazil, and I guess Gates has his snout in there too.
Apparently the AZ Vax has been tested on 1,000 people already, probably Brazilian street kids with no rights, because as some experts have pointed out, it is disappearing whatever the machinery would have us believe."
you can't properly test a vaccine in a population that hasn't got sufficient cases of covid . So Brazil is the correct call. Not political. |
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"It is weird that all the free thinkers that believe all the conspiracy stuff believe the same few sources. All who pretty much have no real evidence."
The funniest thing is that the conspiracy fans ARE the conspiracy... |
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"I was seeing a woman in hudersfield (e.g. cinema/park)
She started doing this nonsence with me about shielding. Dispite remaining in contact.
I just lost intrest.
People need to exercise and eat propper food. If you drink alcohol it's a drug. So is smoking. (I do 420)
It's not me wearning a mask or not that's going to kill you.
People have become hedonistic to unhealthy lifestyles. They are at risk but it's not politicly correct to motivate slackers.
The woman I was seeing was BBW. I literally feel attracted to different types of women but she was being ridiculous. Nice woman but if she really give a shit she would get running up hills to save herself.
I had to detach from friends also because of this. People who became like bolshie/stazi east Germans
It's always the women who get most rallied by authority. Ofcourse women are on a level with me about these things.
But "karen" is legit.
It's affected my dateing preferences STRONGLY
Some of my female colleagues think like me but they are old.
While others are covid mad. The covid mad types are hysterical about everything and have a sence of entitlement in the workplace. They always vote labour.
They shout these opinions in the staff room but opinions like mine are secretly whispered.
This forum is like a staff room
You get fired for upsetting karen
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So, the upshot is you aren't getting any..? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was seeing a woman in hudersfield (e.g. cinema/park)
She started doing this nonsence with me about shielding. Dispite remaining in contact.
I just lost intrest.
People need to exercise and eat propper food. If you drink alcohol it's a drug. So is smoking. (I do 420)
It's not me wearning a mask or not that's going to kill you.
People have become hedonistic to unhealthy lifestyles. They are at risk but it's not politicly correct to motivate slackers.
The woman I was seeing was BBW. I literally feel attracted to different types of women but she was being ridiculous. Nice woman but if she really give a shit she would get running up hills to save herself.
I had to detach from friends also because of this. People who became like bolshie/stazi east Germans
It's always the women who get most rallied by authority. Ofcourse women are on a level with me about these things.
But "karen" is legit.
It's affected my dateing preferences STRONGLY
Some of my female colleagues think like me but they are old.
While others are covid mad. The covid mad types are hysterical about everything and have a sence of entitlement in the workplace. They always vote labour.
They shout these opinions in the staff room but opinions like mine are secretly whispered.
This forum is like a staff room
You get fired for upsetting karen
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Well I'm sure there are more than just Karen's that are upset after your rant. Pretty sure you've just shot yourself in the foot with this!! |
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"You have as much chance of curing this as you do with the common cold
People watch too much tv and they don't think for themselves"
Otherwise trust in information gained from a swinger site full of medic experts |
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A similar question was posted back in April on the forum, shortly after the government announced the isolation rules.
I mentioned on the thread that it would most likely continue through July & August and was dismissed by the OP as being ridiculous.
Isolation, wearing masks correctly and distancing needs to be observed before the numbers will decrease.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Be wearing mask at work till next summer,then will see .Going to be here a while longer .Had no cases for 3 weeks but lately we have .
I doubt we'll ever stop wearing masks in my sector now. "
Mine too  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Be wearing mask at work till next summer,then will see .Going to be here a while longer .Had no cases for 3 weeks but lately we have .
I doubt we'll ever stop wearing masks in my sector now.
Mine too "
What do you do ? |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"People insist on travelling around the world all of the time and so it will keep on spreading.
All I ever seem to Hear is people moaning that they just have to go abroad spending hours cooped up in metal tubes in the air or jammed into trains on ferries
Add to that the d*unken state some people get themselves into and then distance goes out the window.
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Yes you are right in a way but you have to think of people that have worked hard all year and booked and paid hefty deposits on these holidays well before covid was about I know of one family last weekend phoned the hotel in Spain directly to check what the situation was before paying the full balance and now this! It's really not fair on them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The virus could last years theres no signs of it slowing yet, to be honest we probably would of slowed it down by now if we kept all the strict lockdown restrictions and people actually followed the rules to begin with... but with the easing of restrictions it's just going to spread again and take longer.
Should of kept every country on complete lockdown till it was gone or to a minimum. Would probably see the numbers drop by now. |
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The virus will spread where conditions, people and their behaviour lets it.
Only very strict behavioural control or a vaccine will likely push it towards disappearing anywhere. Many country's earlier partial and fuller lockdowns made big reductions to its growth rate, so restrictions will be needed to reduce any further growth problems.
That's unless we have 1 or more vaccines that are effective and readily available. Vaccines deployed at high population rates would also help the virus to disappear, as it couldn't infect others before someone infected recovered. |
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Should of kept every country on complete lockdown till it was gone or to a minimum. Would probably see the numbers drop by now."
If we had "completely locked down" the UK for example, people would have starved to death. We dont produce enough food. 48% (and rising) of our food is produced abroad.
We (and other countries) would be a smoldering heap right now if we had completely locked all borders.
Be careful what you wish for. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The virus could last years theres no signs of it slowing yet, to be honest we probably would of slowed it down by now if we kept all the strict lockdown restrictions and people actually followed the rules to begin with... but with the easing of restrictions it's just going to spread again and take longer.
Should of kept every country on complete lockdown till it was gone or to a minimum. Would probably see the numbers drop by now."
so the virus is still infecting people at the same rate as it was in April/May?? nope. 1000% not. of course its slowing down!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's interesting people quoting infection rates and testing numbers. Question, where can we find legitimate accurate as possie numbers for these from a reliable source? "
Lots on ONS websites |
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"Has anyone actually lost a family member to this virus?"
Not had a relative die but my cousin now has knackered kidneys and damaged lungs for the rest of life. He is in his early 40s. Unlikely to be able to work again. |
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"When people start following guidelines, the Isle of Man is 70 days virus free.
They put measure in place and beat it, we had a fucking idiot in charge and lost 65k people."
Before we digest your scientific findings, what's the size of the IOM, its population, how many travel hubs. Your comparing an apple with a hammer! This is why the Internet can be misleading, too many people making generalisations about something they know diddly squat about and people believe it. Example-Donald Trump. He knows more about any subject than anyone else! |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"Will not be over until there is a covid 19 jab which sadly could be over a year away.
Or years away. If there is a vaccine you might need to have booster jabs according to one Cambridge scientist . It's going to be around for years like Spanish flu .
Hopefully science is a bit more advanced then it was back then..."
But this was a Cambridge scientist last week saying boosters might be needed . Either way it's going to be a long haul. I have other interests outside of swinging and hopefully covid proof to occupy myself now. Just here till my membership runs out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Covid will now never 'go away', it has become yet another endemic disease that mankind will need to live with.
In time, richer countries will suppress it through vaccination, just as they aready do with many other once-feared endemic illnesses. Poorer countries will remain reservoirs of disease. Total elimination of Covid now would require a level of global effort and cooperation not seen since the elimination of Smallpox, and that took decades to achieve.
The effort & public pressure now needs to be on reopening our society & minimizing the additional damage extreme control measures cause.
There are effective, reasonably accurate and rapid tests for Covid right now, some which could be mass produced for around £1 each and carried out at home. No laboratory. No delays. No special techniques. The money we're currently pouring into the black hole of 'covid support measures' would be much better spend mass producing, distributing and using technology like this to allow everyone to go about their daily lives as normal.
Note : the tech mentioned above exists today, is not a fantasy and is known as RT-Lamp testing. I can't post a link but google will help those interested. |
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"When people start following guidelines, the Isle of Man is 70 days virus free.
They put measure in place and beat it, we had a fucking idiot in charge and lost 65k people.
Before we digest your scientific findings, what's the size of the IOM, its population, how many travel hubs. Your comparing an apple with a hammer! This is why the Internet can be misleading, too many people making generalisations about something they know diddly squat about and people believe it. Example-Donald Trump. He knows more about any subject than anyone else! "
It works on a smaller scale of following rules, closing the borders.
We still can't get some fucking retards to wear a mask in a shop, so no chance of it going away anytime soon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Breaking News:Parts of North of England on Locked Down from tonight. Looks like 2nd wave have hit us especially North of England.
Indeed interesting the areas it affects! "
wont be long before everywhere is on lockdown again unless you need to drive to test your eyesight |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
Sheffield |
"When people start following guidelines, the Isle of Man is 70 days virus free.
They put measure in place and beat it, we had a fucking idiot in charge and lost 65k people.
Before we digest your scientific findings, what's the size of the IOM, its population, how many travel hubs. Your comparing an apple with a hammer! This is why the Internet can be misleading, too many people making generalisations about something they know diddly squat about and people believe it. Example-Donald Trump. He knows more about any subject than anyone else!
It works on a smaller scale of following rules, closing the borders.
We still can't get some fucking retards to wear a mask in a shop, so no chance of it going away anytime soon."
exactly this which is why this is going to run and run ... |
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"I heard the summer heat would make the virus disappear; I hope so; if that doesn't do it then what will?   "
Hot, high UV conditions reduce virus surviving in the environment so it reduces rate of infection but falls far short of eradicating it... flu goes quieter in the summer but it bounces back in Autumn. My prediction is grim (but most of my predictions have been pretty accurate though this pandemic) we will see UK CV19 deaths exceed 150K within the next 12-18 months |
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"When people start following guidelines, the Isle of Man is 70 days virus free.
They put measure in place and beat it, we had a fucking idiot in charge and lost 65k people."
Isle of Man has a population of about 5 people in low density housing, they should have achieved Covid free 12 weeks ago! No one man is in charge of public health decisions but if you had been PM do tell us what you would have done better? |
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"When people start following guidelines, the Isle of Man is 70 days virus free.
They put measure in place and beat it, we had a fucking idiot in charge and lost 65k people.
Isle of Man has a population of about 5 people in low density housing, they should have achieved Covid free 12 weeks ago! No one man is in charge of public health decisions but if you had been PM do tell us what you would have done better?"
Boris has already said they should have done things differently and that they underestimated this virus.
If we were first to be hit then I would understand but we saw what it was going to other countries before it hit.
Some members of sage were calling for an earlier lockdown.
In situations like this surely it's always better to be as proactive as possible rather than adopt the wait and see approach.
But as others have said,there is no point dwelling on what should have happened. |
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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago
South Yorkshire |
I believe this virus is man made and according to things ive read its like ebola and aids mixed the way it mutates
Like the flu they is no cure coz its a virus not infection
Might be able to slow it down
Just remember flu keeps loads of people every year |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Think we are in this for the long run
Be added to the flu virus
Maybe a vaccine to help improve things if you get it
And hopefully more advanced treatments to slowdown this horrific death rate we have |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Think we are in this for the long run
Be added to the flu virus
Maybe a vaccine to help improve things if you get it
And hopefully more advanced treatments to slowdown this horrific death rate we have "
Looks like that's what it will be |
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