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I'm. Looking forward to regaining the freedom to hug my elderly, vulnerable mother and to be intimate again with my young but critically vulnerable partner.
Of that requires me to take a vaccine which has gone through the regulated certification process, i an happy to do so. |
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over a year ago
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!"
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T |
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T"
Would your family like you to give up your freedom and your life to protect them from a virus so deadly that most of us don’t even know if we have had the basterd thing?!? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
Would your family like you to give up your freedom and your life to protect them from a virus so deadly that most of us don’t even know if we have had the basterd thing?!?"
I didn’t know I had prostate cancer until I had a blood test. It still could kill me. |
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
Would your family like you to give up your freedom and your life to protect them from a virus so deadly that most of us don’t even know if we have had the basterd thing?!?
I didn’t know I had prostate cancer until I had a blood test. It still could kill me."
We aren’t talking about cancer, so not quite sure how this is relevant.
But I would like to say that I’m sorry to hear your bad news though - I really do wish you all the best.
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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Wow.
Not having to wear seatbelt is a lost freedom.
Not having to wear a crash helmet is a lost freedom.
Having organised crossing places on roads is a lost freedom.
Not having the ability to drive vehicels that don't have appropriate MOT's in place is a lost freedom.
Not having the general ability to own a hand-gun is a lost freedom.
Not been able to drive the wrong way up a motorway is a lost freedom.
Not being able to keep your children from being educated is a lost freedom.
. . . and the billion other lost freedoms, ad-infinitum.
NOT being forced to HAVE a vaccination is a freedom you already have.
If wearing a mask to protect others is a so bothersome to you - you really need to re-evaluate your life.
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T"
So as long as your happy, fuck everyone else? Typical.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
So as long as your happy, fuck everyone else? Typical. "
No not fuck everybody else as that’s just my own personal opinion which as far as I know I’m still allowed to have even in the bitter world of Clem-h-fandango!!!!
You do what you want to do and I will do what I feel is best for my family,a family which will have it’s own choice in any matter as the youngest is 16 and the oldest has a family of her own.
T |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have had many vaccinations and can confirm I have been on ball and chain since birth. I have no freedom at all."
I had the jab for TB as a teenager which left a small lump at the top of my arm. Scarred for life I tell thee. |
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
So as long as your happy, fuck everyone else? Typical.
No not fuck everybody else as that’s just my own personal opinion which as far as I know I’m still allowed to have even in the bitter world of Clem-h-fandango!!!!
You do what you want to do and I will do what I feel is best for my family,a family which will have it’s own choice in any matter as the youngest is 16 and the oldest has a family of her own.
T"
I understand, you want the general poulous to change its way of life for you.  |
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"Wow.
Not having to wear seatbelt is a lost freedom.
Not having to wear a crash helmet is a lost freedom.
Having organised crossing places on roads is a lost freedom.
Not having the ability to drive vehicels that don't have appropriate MOT's in place is a lost freedom.
Not having the general ability to own a hand-gun is a lost freedom.
Not been able to drive the wrong way up a motorway is a lost freedom.
Not being able to keep your children from being educated is a lost freedom.
. . . and the billion other lost freedoms, ad-infinitum.
NOT being forced to HAVE a vaccination is a freedom you already have.
If wearing a mask to protect others is a so bothersome to you - you really need to re-evaluate your life.
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What are you on about? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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I understand, you want the general poulous to change its way of life for you. "
It's an odd strategy to be arguing in the converse while stating an inverse of your original point.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have had many vaccinations and can confirm I have been on ball and chain since birth. I have no freedom at all.
I had the jab for TB as a teenager which left a small lump at the top of my arm. Scarred for life I tell thee."
Oh dear. Stamped and branded by the government! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
So as long as your happy, fuck everyone else? Typical.
No not fuck everybody else as that’s just my own personal opinion which as far as I know I’m still allowed to have even in the bitter world of Clem-h-fandango!!!!
You do what you want to do and I will do what I feel is best for my family,a family which will have it’s own choice in any matter as the youngest is 16 and the oldest has a family of her own.
T
I understand, you want the general poulous to change its way of life for you. "
No
Not at all.
I respect the views of the masses and I respect their right to think,act and behave in any way they see fit whilst I respect their rights and would defend their rights I don’t feel the need to agree with them as I’m not a baa baa sheep!!
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I understand, you want the general poulous to change its way of life for you.
It's an odd strategy to be arguing in the converse while stating an inverse of your original point.
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It's just petty psuedointellectual bullshit rolled out to get a response.
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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Only in this country do we make such a drama over it. Perhaps this is partly why we can’t get on top of our numbers? I really can’t understand this ‘nobody is going to tell me what to do’ attitude. In other countries you don’t get that choice. No mask - go away. I approve of that approach. |
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over a year ago
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Here we go again with the logic that a lack of evidence to prove something is true is proof that it is untrue.
Where is the peer reviewed scientific study which shows face masks have no positive effect on the spread of Covid-19? |
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"Here we go again with the logic that a lack of evidence to prove something is true is proof that it is untrue.
Where is the peer reviewed scientific study which shows face masks have no positive effect on the spread of Covid-19?"
Surely if the science proves that face masks prevents or reduces you or others from contracting a coronavirus type virus then every single winter from november through to febuary face masks would have been made mandatory every single year to prevent the spread of flu which does happen to kill tbousands each and every year.
Also as in the qoute i posted above people are not trained how to use masks.
They touch them repeatedly, they remove them constantly, they re-use same cloth mask over and over.
People leave masks in their cars and for convience when ever they need to go in a shop or garage.
This is not helping prevent spread of a virus it is imfact going to be doing the opposite.
Also when walking my dog yesterday i counted 10 disgarded face masks just laying around the place.
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"Here we go again with the logic that a lack of evidence to prove something is true is proof that it is untrue.
Where is the peer reviewed scientific study which shows face masks have no positive effect on the spread of Covid-19?
Surely if the science proves that face masks prevents or reduces you or others from contracting a coronavirus type virus then every single winter from november through to febuary face masks would have been made mandatory every single year to prevent the spread of flu which does happen to kill tbousands each and every year.
Also as in the qoute i posted above people are not trained how to use masks.
They touch them repeatedly, they remove them constantly, they re-use same cloth mask over and over.
People leave masks in their cars and for convience when ever they need to go in a shop or garage.
This is not helping prevent spread of a virus it is imfact going to be doing the opposite.
Also when walking my dog yesterday i counted 10 disgarded face masks just laying around the place.
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Do you wear a mask when shopping ? |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"Wow.
Not having to wear seatbelt is a lost freedom.
Not having to wear a crash helmet is a lost freedom.
Having organised crossing places on roads is a lost freedom.
Not having the ability to drive vehicels that don't have appropriate MOT's in place is a lost freedom.
Not having the general ability to own a hand-gun is a lost freedom.
Not been able to drive the wrong way up a motorway is a lost freedom.
Not being able to keep your children from being educated is a lost freedom.
. . . and the billion other lost freedoms, ad-infinitum.
NOT being forced to HAVE a vaccination is a freedom you already have.
If wearing a mask to protect others is a so bothersome to you - you really need to re-evaluate your life.
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But most of these comments are not about logic.
Its about grown mature adults whinging like little babies about wearing a safety precaution.
In many cases the same adults whinging they have lots their adult freedoms to meet others on this website to fuck.
Wearing a mask in many parts of the world is normal behaviour, not enforced by governments but to protect one's own health and limit the spread of disease to other people.
Wear £3.99 in crowded places and stop fucking crying into social areas of the internet your freedoms are taken from you.
I don't see anyone whinging that their £1000 smartphone manufacturer, isp and every app on their phone is monitoring them exercise all their freedoms on the Internet.
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I have no idea who Jim Meehan is but what he says makes perfect sense to me. Mask wearing in the general public is just silly. If you choose not to believe what a surgeon says you are verging on OCD. It's absurd and frankly rather pathetic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fab forum in 2020 "wear a mask your just being selfish"
Fast forward 12 months
fab forum in 2021 "get your vaccine your just being selfish"
You know its coming lol |
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"I have no idea who Jim Meehan is but what he says makes perfect sense to me. Mask wearing in the general public is just silly. If you choose not to believe what a surgeon says you are verging on OCD. It's absurd and frankly rather pathetic."
Would the fact most scientific opinion seems to back the use of masks sway you or is the fact you've decided they are silly outweighs their knowledge. The fact you are backing the words of someone you say you have never heard of begs the question how much research you've done. |
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"I have no idea who Jim Meehan is but what he says makes perfect sense to me. Mask wearing in the general public is just silly. If you choose not to believe what a surgeon says you are verging on OCD. It's absurd and frankly rather pathetic."
He’s a false authority. |
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"Imagine there was a virus that you could stop yourself from spreading by
Washing your hands
Sanatise
Wearing a mask(for others safety)
Maintain a safe distance
Just imagine....."
I wonder what killed all those health workers? |
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"Imagine there was a virus that you could stop yourself from spreading by
Washing your hands
Sanatise
Wearing a mask(for others safety)
Maintain a safe distance
Just imagine.....
I wonder what killed all those health workers?"
Viral load. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe you should travel to Asia... Where mask wearing has been a thing for about 2 decades for an number of health reasons."
I've travelled all around asia a couple years back for 6 months.
You try make it sound like every asian was wearing a face mask.
I can assure you from my experience that hardly any asians was wearing a face mask anywhere.
When i was using their train public transport out of a full carrage of asians maybe 1 had a face mask on.
And it was never mandatory.
So again answer the question.
IF face masks has the science behind it saying that it protects you and others was corona type viruses like covid, like flu, like colds then why hasnt it been mandated to be compulsory to wear face coverings for decades every single winter/flu season?
In order to save thousands upon thousands of lifes and hundred of thousands if not millions of cases?
The reason being is simply because science knows face masks are ineffective against those types of virus.
This is simply fact.
If it wasnt fact the second covid 19 hit our shores mask wearing would have been one of the first things implemented.
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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"Imagine there was a virus that you could stop yourself from spreading by
Washing your hands
Sanatise
Wearing a mask(for others safety)
Maintain a safe distance
Just imagine.....
I wonder what killed all those health workers?"
Yes I wonder what killed them |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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"Maybe you should travel to Asia... Where mask wearing has been a thing for about 2 decades for an number of health reasons.
I've travelled all around asia a couple years back for 6 months.
You try make it sound like every asian was wearing a face mask.
I can assure you from my experience that hardly any asians was wearing a face mask anywhere.
When i was using their train public transport out of a full carrage of asians maybe 1 had a face mask on.
And it was never mandatory.
So again answer the question.
IF face masks has the science behind it saying that it protects you and others was corona type viruses like covid, like flu, like colds then why hasnt it been mandated to be compulsory to wear face coverings for decades every single winter/flu season?
In order to save thousands upon thousands of lifes and hundred of thousands if not millions of cases?
The reason being is simply because science knows face masks are ineffective against those types of virus.
This is simply fact.
If it wasnt fact the second covid 19 hit our shores mask wearing would have been one of the first things implemented.
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A fair point....I'll still be wearing my mask in shops and around older folks |
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This is simply fact.
If it wasnt fact the second covid 19 hit our shores mask wearing would have been one of the first things implemented.
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The science behind face masks has been seriously misunderstood by many people including the government. It IS a fact that if you wear a mask it will not stop you from getting infected, but this isn't what it's supposed to do. Masks DO reduce the distance that the virus carrying moisture in your breath is able to be projected. The mask is not supposed to protect the wearer. It doesn't even need to be a special mask to have a positive effect, anything that covers the nose & mouth is going to help... if it's getting damp, then it is effectively limiting the moisture.
The idea that the government WANT people to cover their faces is totally bonkers. They have spent billions on face recognition systems which are currently rendered pointless by masks.
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"Can’t wear a mask due to medical reasons - has pics of cocks rammed down their throat.?
Can’t wear a mask I have asthma - says can go down on a woman for hours on their profile
Got to love fab "
It’s incredible how many people now have health issues which they say prevent mask wearing. Wearing a mask does not affect your oxygen levels or breathing. People are full of excuses. I know there are always exceptions but really I don’t see a reason why people can’t wear a mask or a visor. |
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"Can’t wear a mask due to medical reasons - has pics of cocks rammed down their throat.?
Can’t wear a mask I have asthma - says can go down on a woman for hours on their profile
Got to love fab
It’s incredible how many people now have health issues which they say prevent mask wearing. Wearing a mask does not affect your oxygen levels or breathing. People are full of excuses. I know there are always exceptions but really I don’t see a reason why people can’t wear a mask or a visor. "
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"Maybe you should travel to Asia... Where mask wearing has been a thing for about 2 decades for an number of health reasons.
I've travelled all around asia a couple years back for 6 months.
You try make it sound like every asian was wearing a face mask.
I can assure you from my experience that hardly any asians was wearing a face mask anywhere.
When i was using their train public transport out of a full carrage of asians maybe 1 had a face mask on.
And it was never mandatory.
So again answer the question.
IF face masks has the science behind it saying that it protects you and others was corona type viruses like covid, like flu, like colds then why hasnt it been mandated to be compulsory to wear face coverings for decades every single winter/flu season?
In order to save thousands upon thousands of lifes and hundred of thousands if not millions of cases?
The reason being is simply because science knows face masks are ineffective against those types of virus.
This is simply fact.
If it wasnt fact the second covid 19 hit our shores mask wearing would have been one of the first things implemented.
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The answer is quite simple if you step out of your echo chamber. This is a novel virus to which we've not been exposed, and no innate immunity and to some people is deadly, there is no current vaccine, and our understanding of the condition it causes (COVID) has also rapidly changed since it was first identified. All the other viruses you mention are not novel, we have a level of immunity (whether personal or herd) against them, have vaccines, and in the case of other coronaviruses do not cause anything worse than a cold (SARS & MERS excluded).
Face masks have not been mandatory because of these reasons, and to prevent PPE shortages.
The scientific consensus has also changed, ask me 6 months ago and I would likely have agreed they do not help, but in the light of the new consensus, face masks aid in preventing the spread. Are they a panacea, no, but it's one small ask that we can all take in battling the virus. |
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"What other freedoms are you looking forward to giving up?"
I feel as though I've already given up the freedom to avoid breathing in other people's foul, germy breath.
Or rather,that freedom has been snatched away from me by a few selfish bastards. |
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over a year ago
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This could be partly explained by the fact that surgical procedures take place in extremely clean environments,with sterile equipment being handled by healthy surgeons.
The situation in a supermarket is markedly different,with some very unhygienic people coughing up phlegm from the depths of their disease ridden lungs. (Only a slight exaggeration) But the fact remains, there is a virus going around,spread by droplets of the sort expelled by coughs,sneezes,throat clearing and even by normal conversations.
How about we try to minimize these effects for a short while?"
I waw about to say the same thing. These papers are about the use of masks in a surgery, not out in public places. |
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Next time you have surgery ask all the people in the room to remove the surgical mask...if they are ineffective "
There is very little evidence that they are effective in that scenario I suggest that you read the following papers
"Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery" in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine
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"Disposable surgical face masks for preventing surgical wound infection in clean surgery" in the Cochrane Database |
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Name and date of that report please?"
Which report? The Government's own review was published by Public Health England on the 26th June 2020 (but wasn't made public until later)
It' titled
"Face coverings in the community and COVID-19: a rapid review"
Not sure if I'm allowed to link to it but if you put
public health england "Face coverings in the community and COVID-19: a rapid review"
You will find links to it. |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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Next time you have surgery ask all the people in the room to remove the surgical mask...if they are ineffective
There is very little evidence that they are effective in that scenario I suggest that you read the following papers
"Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery" in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine
and
"Disposable surgical face masks for preventing surgical wound infection in clean surgery" in the Cochrane Database"
So when you go in for surgery next....you can ask the team to not wear them....
During this covid pandemic....I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Not what I think...might...be right |
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Next time you have surgery ask all the people in the room to remove the surgical mask...if they are ineffective
There is very little evidence that they are effective in that scenario I suggest that you read the following papers
"Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery" in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine
and
"Disposable surgical face masks for preventing surgical wound infection in clean surgery" in the Cochrane Database
So when you go in for surgery next....you can ask the team to not wear them....
During this covid pandemic....I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Not what I think...might...be right"
They don't wear masks in hospitals to stop viruses and never have,it's to stop bacteria spreading. Viruses are way to small. To stop a virus you need a bio suit. |
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I waw about to say the same thing. These papers are about the use of masks in a surgery, not out in public places."
Indeed where they are being used with strict protocols for putting them on, wearing them and their disposal in a sterile environment (where if they do work there should be firm evidence of their effectiveness). There isn't any such evidence.
Meanwhile Joe Public is using non sterile masks improperly and apparently they will be effective. They won't.
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Since when was a politician a trained medical professional?"
Since when is a politician making these decisions....
The chief medical officer and nephet are calling it here.... |
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One word... Smallpox
Eradicated.. admittedly the only infectious disease to be eradicated thus far, but others are almost there..
Polio, TB, tetanus, measles, hepatitis, mumps, to name a few, are all disease that have been almost totally eradicated thanks to mass inoculation.
Of course, you could put your tinfoil hat on and join the merry band of people that believe some inoculation cause autism or that 5g masts are responsible for covid and that any injections the UK government offer us are merely a way to get DNA samples from us all and inject us with nanobots to turn us into a mind controlled army to fight against an insidious eastern enemy, unwittingly controlled by a bunch of 6 year olds playing the latest version of Minecraft.
As for me, i have signed up for clinical trials of a vaccine; should i be chosen, it will be my little bit i did to help find a cure.
Idiot I hear you shout..
Yes, maybe...I'm obviously just a dumb sheep being led to the proverbial slaughter..
And as a sheep, i also comply with wearing a face mask when in shops because it doesn't inconvenience me much, if at all, do me any harm and it's the socially responsible thing to do and hopefully, it will reduce the chances of me and my family from becoming ill from the disease.
But the one good thing about being a sheep is I don't have to worry about catching mad cow disease... |
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I think it’s safe to say that those few who say they know better and won’t be wearing masks are not going to be convinced otherwise, as they keep telling us.
What they do away from the courage of their keyboard we’ll never know, or possibly care. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Since when was a politician a trained medical professional?
Liam Fox.
10 were elected in 2019.
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Rosena Allin-Khan MP still works as a doctor during parliamentary recess or Sarah Wollaston who stood down at last election. The last Irish PM worked as a doctor during the lockdown in addition to leading a caretaker government. |
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"I think it’s safe to say that those few who say they know better and won’t be wearing masks are not going to be convinced otherwise, as they keep telling us.
What they do away from the courage of their keyboard we’ll never know, or possibly care."
They have made their minds up. Rather than follow the rules they protest against them. No one really knows who’s right but most governments across the world say wear masks. So We will stick with what they recommend over hearsay , Facebook, Karen, and what ever else is said. |
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"I think it’s safe to say that those few who say they know better and won’t be wearing masks are not going to be convinced otherwise, as they keep telling us.
What they do away from the courage of their keyboard we’ll never know, or possibly care.
They have made their minds up. Rather than follow the rules they protest against them. No one really knows who’s right but most governments across the world say wear masks. So We will stick with what they recommend over hearsay , Facebook, Karen, and what ever else is said. "
Karen who? |
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"Still at least we won't have to smile at each other any more, or allow the deaf to eavesdrop.... the dehumanizing of the populous continues...  "
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"I'm not aware of any "freedom " that I dont have that bothers me...all part of living in a wider society...no issue with mask wearing and happy with vaccinations so no freedom lost."
Will you be happy to show proof of vaccination before being able to shop or travel? |
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"I'm not aware of any "freedom " that I dont have that bothers me...all part of living in a wider society...no issue with mask wearing and happy with vaccinations so no freedom lost.
Will you be happy to show proof of vaccination before being able to shop or travel? "
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We where never free it's all an illusion...try to speak your mind to.the government you will get arrested...we vote for our leaders but they have their own agenda..
Freedom is just a word... |
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"Wow.
Not having to wear seatbelt is a lost freedom.
Not having to wear a crash helmet is a lost freedom.
Having organised crossing places on roads is a lost freedom.
Not having the ability to drive vehicels that don't have appropriate MOT's in place is a lost freedom.
Not having the general ability to own a hand-gun is a lost freedom.
Not been able to drive the wrong way up a motorway is a lost freedom.
Not being able to keep your children from being educated is a lost freedom.
. . . and the billion other lost freedoms, ad-infinitum.
NOT being forced to HAVE a vaccination is a freedom you already have.
If wearing a mask to protect others is a so bothersome to you - you really need to re-evaluate your life.
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Indeed but many do love to bitch & fucking moan about so called freedoms
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"Wow.
Not having to wear seatbelt is a lost freedom.
Not having to wear a crash helmet is a lost freedom.
Having organised crossing places on roads is a lost freedom.
Not having the ability to drive vehicels that don't have appropriate MOT's in place is a lost freedom.
Not having the general ability to own a hand-gun is a lost freedom.
Not been able to drive the wrong way up a motorway is a lost freedom.
Not being able to keep your children from being educated is a lost freedom.
. . . and the billion other lost freedoms, ad-infinitum.
NOT being forced to HAVE a vaccination is a freedom you already have.
If wearing a mask to protect others is a so bothersome to you - you really need to re-evaluate your life.
Indeed but many do love to bitch & fucking moan about so called freedoms
I generally ignore the sad individuals "
everyone should wear a mask...and that's it... |
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"Wow.
Not having to wear seatbelt is a lost freedom.
Not having to wear a crash helmet is a lost freedom.
Having organised crossing places on roads is a lost freedom.
Not having the ability to drive vehicels that don't have appropriate MOT's in place is a lost freedom.
Not having the general ability to own a hand-gun is a lost freedom.
Not been able to drive the wrong way up a motorway is a lost freedom.
Not being able to keep your children from being educated is a lost freedom.
. . . and the billion other lost freedoms, ad-infinitum.
NOT being forced to HAVE a vaccination is a freedom you already have.
If wearing a mask to protect others is a so bothersome to you - you really need to re-evaluate your life.
Indeed but many do love to bitch & fucking moan about so called freedoms
I generally ignore the sad individuals everyone should wear a mask...and that's it..."
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Will you be happy to show proof of vaccination before being able to shop or travel?
There's been no indication in the real world that this is going to happen."
Exactly.
It's so weird seeing people just make up stuff to be upset about, the poor little darlings. |
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Anyone been to the shops other than groceries lately. What's it like out there on the High Street ?
I haven't been into my local town for several weeks. Just wondering ? |
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"Anyone been to the shops other than groceries lately. What's it like out there on the High Street ?
I haven't been into my local town for several weeks. Just wondering ?"
From what I've seen definitely less people out and the majority are wearing masks. |
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"Anyone been to the shops other than groceries lately. What's it like out there on the High Street ?
I haven't been into my local town for several weeks. Just wondering ?
From what I've seen definitely less people out and the majority are wearing masks."
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
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Would your family like you to give up your freedom and your life to protect them from a virus so deadly that most of us don’t even know if we have had the basterd thing?!?"
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
Would your family like you to give up your freedom and your life to protect them from a virus so deadly that most of us don’t even know if we have had the basterd thing?!? "
So what are you saying? That because a "most" people won't know if they have the virus, those who end up in ICU or dying from the virus are insignificant? What freedom are we sacrificing that justifies their suffering and death? Giving up our freedom? It sounds like we're all in chains! |
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"Fab forum in 2020 "wear a mask your just being selfish"
Fast forward 12 months
fab forum in 2021 "get your vaccine your just being selfish"
You know its coming lol "
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"Fab forum in 2020 "wear a mask your just being selfish"
Fast forward 12 months
fab forum in 2021 "get your vaccine your just being selfish"
You know its coming lol "
Here's a date for ya.... 9 December 1979.
Are you aware that cross immunity in SARS survivors seems to protect them from Covid-19?
Meaning that if they had ever gone through with developing the SARS vaccine we may have had a ready go solution in January. |
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My god we are slowly turning in to Americans, refusing to wear masks as it infringes on our human rights get a grip. The vaccine will be optional but will be 1 I take up. I may be safe from covid killing me but I have members of my family that are in the increased risk category. I will do what needs to be done to keep them safe. If that means wearing a mask and a small injection keeps them safe and allows me to return to life as we knew it then sign me up |
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"My god we are slowly turning in to Americans, refusing to wear masks as it infringes on our human rights get a grip. The vaccine will be optional but will be 1 I take up. I may be safe from covid killing me but I have members of my family that are in the increased risk category. I will do what needs to be done to keep them safe. If that means wearing a mask and a small injection keeps them safe and allows me to return to life as we knew it then sign me up"
I agree with everything you say except the slowly bit...  |
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Having been in a quiet part of Spain for the last month I can share a few lessons. I have a family home there and have visited the same beach resort for nearly 20 years and stayed in the same small development of 6 villas. There's 2 British couples that live there permanently. They took/are taking covid very seriously.... Masks everywhere or face hefty fines of €1000 and they're being handed out everywhere! Beaches are patrolled and there are signs everywhere about what you need to do and I'm talking proper metal sign post signs, not a paper sticker..! The Guardia there carry guns and big sticks and aren't afraid to use them, they command respect and you do as you're told, this to me is a big difference from police here! There have been 80 ish cases in the area where I have my second home, all of those have occurred in the last 3 weeks, and all have been brought in from other Spanish regions! When this all kicked off in March, people from. Northern Spain and Madrid headed south to their holiday homes, police put up road blocks and turned them back!! They kept things isolated. Its safe and serious in most of southern Spain. Perhaps Britain should take a look at them...! My understand is that I can get on a plane tomorrow and head to Portugal but I can't go to my local shop! Logical... I think not! Anyway, I've been tested today and will hear back on the next few days, I've also had my wife and children tested to see if they have It! |
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"Having been in a quiet part of Spain for the last month I can share a few lessons. I have a family home there and have visited the same beach resort for nearly 20 years and stayed in the same small development of 6 villas. There's 2 British couples that live there permanently. They took/are taking covid very seriously.... Masks everywhere or face hefty fines of €1000 and they're being handed out everywhere! Beaches are patrolled and there are signs everywhere about what you need to do and I'm talking proper metal sign post signs, not a paper sticker..! The Guardia there carry guns and big sticks and aren't afraid to use them, they command respect and you do as you're told, this to me is a big difference from police here! There have been 80 ish cases in the area where I have my second home, all of those have occurred in the last 3 weeks, and all have been brought in from other Spanish regions! When this all kicked off in March, people from. Northern Spain and Madrid headed south to their holiday homes, police put up road blocks and turned them back!! They kept things isolated. Its safe and serious in most of southern Spain. Perhaps Britain should take a look at them...! My understand is that I can get on a plane tomorrow and head to Portugal but I can't go to my local shop! Logical... I think not! Anyway, I've been tested today and will hear back on the next few days, I've also had my wife and children tested to see if they have It! "
How are the people in Spain reacting to these measures? |
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"Having been in a quiet part of Spain for the last month I can share a few lessons. I have a family home there and have visited the same beach resort for nearly 20 years and stayed in the same small development of 6 villas. There's 2 British couples that live there permanently. They took/are taking covid very seriously.... Masks everywhere or face hefty fines of €1000 and they're being handed out everywhere! Beaches are patrolled and there are signs everywhere about what you need to do and I'm talking proper metal sign post signs, not a paper sticker..! The Guardia there carry guns and big sticks and aren't afraid to use them, they command respect and you do as you're told, this to me is a big difference from police here! There have been 80 ish cases in the area where I have my second home, all of those have occurred in the last 3 weeks, and all have been brought in from other Spanish regions! When this all kicked off in March, people from. Northern Spain and Madrid headed south to their holiday homes, police put up road blocks and turned them back!! They kept things isolated. Its safe and serious in most of southern Spain. Perhaps Britain should take a look at them...! My understand is that I can get on a plane tomorrow and head to Portugal but I can't go to my local shop! Logical... I think not! Anyway, I've been tested today and will hear back on the next few days, I've also had my wife and children tested to see if they have It!
How are the people in Spain reacting to these measures?"
Most are happy to wear masks and comply with all rules because it makes them feel safer and they also want to avoid fines! It's mostly young people that aren't taking any notice. They don't agree with the travel advice to Spain from the UK and it will see a lot of businesses go under that rely on the tourist income. They aren't angry really, most just seem sad abiut it. |
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Woman exempt from wearing a mask 'afraid to leave home' after abuse while shopping.
Are you pro maskers proud of yourselves? You know who you are... maybe you should all consider uping sticks and relocating to comunist/you will comply to China!
Wake up, folks... |
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"Woman exempt from wearing a mask 'afraid to leave home' after abuse while shopping.
Are you pro maskers proud of yourselves? You know who you are... maybe you should all consider uping sticks and relocating to comunist/you will comply to China!
Wake up, folks... "
So she’s afraid to leave home because people ask her why she’s not wearing a mask but she isn’t afraid to leave home and possibly catch covid with her underlying health condition? Yeah that makes sense . |
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"Woman exempt from wearing a mask 'afraid to leave home' after abuse while shopping.
Are you pro maskers proud of yourselves? You know who you are... maybe you should all consider uping sticks and relocating to comunist/you will comply to China!
Wake up, folks... "
Is this a troll post? |
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"Woman exempt from wearing a mask 'afraid to leave home' after abuse while shopping.
Are you pro maskers proud of yourselves? You know who you are... maybe you should all consider uping sticks and relocating to comunist/you will comply to China!
Wake up, folks...
Is this a troll post?"
It’s rammed underneath that bridge. |
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"Woman exempt from wearing a mask 'afraid to leave home' after abuse while shopping.
Are you pro maskers proud of yourselves? You know who you are... maybe you should all consider uping sticks and relocating to comunist/you will comply to China!
Wake up, folks... "
I’ve just seen the story on the bbc, so she can’t wear a mask because her child is autistic. And now she’s afraid to leave house because of the abuse by one person gave her a panic attack. Yet when you look at her wide open Facebook page she’s happily out. And she’s been slagging off the government for months. And has shared Numerous anti mask pages since June. She also has a husband who could maybe go shopping for her or watch her children. She also is a journalist.
If your exempt then fair enough but don’t moan when other people question it as they are just as scared of life at the moment . |
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There is no law that says you have to wear a mask, the Queen must sign the documents for it to be law and she won't.
As for fining people for not wearing a mask - bollocks, just WHO is gonna TRY to impose that fine and just HOW do they expect to get someone to pass over the money,lol....not a wise idea to approach me and tell me to pass money over, I do not suffer fools 
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But his rants work better if they were.
To protect my family op I’d give up every freedom and my life!!
T
Would your family like you to give up your freedom and your life to protect them from a virus so deadly that most of us don’t even know if we have had the basterd thing?!?
I didn’t know I had prostate cancer until I had a blood test. It still could kill me."
Wow! Good luck with that. Have you had the biopsy? |
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"There is no law that says you have to wear a mask, the Queen must sign the documents for it to be law and she won't.
As for fining people for not wearing a mask - bollocks, just WHO is gonna TRY to impose that fine and just HOW do they expect to get someone to pass over the money,lol....not a wise idea to approach me and tell me to pass money over, I do not suffer fools
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I wish they would concentrate more on the lazy filthy fuckers who drop face masks and gloves in the street. |
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"There is no law that says you have to wear a mask, the Queen must sign the documents for it to be law and she won't.
As for fining people for not wearing a mask - bollocks, just WHO is gonna TRY to impose that fine and just HOW do they expect to get someone to pass over the money,lol....not a wise idea to approach me and tell me to pass money over, I do not suffer fools
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Ahh ... Ha ... mmm
Neither do I |
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I'm looking to gaining back the freedom to walk around without risking killing anyone simply by breathing.
It's a nice freedom to have. One worth giving up the right not to wear a mask in a private business who can ultimately dictate whatever policies they deem fit for the safety of their staff. |
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If someone is exempt from having to wear a face covering,it doesn't necessarily mean that they can't wear one,,,,voluntarily.
Like the elderly gentleman I saw in the supermarket earlier. He was easily in his 80's,using a walking aid and looking rather frail,very likely exempt from having to wear a mask,yet he was wearing one.
If he,and others like him,can be strong and brave enough to make this sacrifice then so can most people younger and stronger...only,it seems a lot of them can't.
There is only ever one reason for a person to not be wearing a mask and that is,they have chosen not to,, possibly indicating that they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. |
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
Looking that way in Australia our pm just placed an order for 25 million shots of it "
People will stick to their freedom and make a stand to defend liberty.
Until one day they can't travel overseas and then they will quickly get off their tomato box and get in the queue with everyone else. |
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"If someone is exempt from having to wear a face covering,it doesn't necessarily mean that they can't wear one,,,,voluntarily.
Like the elderly gentleman I saw in the supermarket earlier. He was easily in his 80's,using a walking aid and looking rather frail,very likely exempt from having to wear a mask,yet he was wearing one.
If he,and others like him,can be strong and brave enough to make this sacrifice then so can most people younger and stronger...only,it seems a lot of them can't.
There is only ever one reason for a person to not be wearing a mask and that is,they have chosen not to,, possibly indicating that they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves."
this. In sicily everyone was wearing one... no exceptions x |
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Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
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"Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
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Soooooo. You think someone who might experience breathing difficulty in a shop due to wearing a mask, would refuse to use an oxygen fed mask in an airline emergency... ok.. |
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"Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
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My wife wears a cpap mask for bed but cant wear a cloth mask for shopping.
So what is your point ? |
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People with breathing difficulty are different from people that refuse to wear a mask to shop. Most people refuse because they just don’t want to. But will soon wear one if their life depended on it . There are very few people who physically can’t wear a mask yet half the people in shops aren’t wearing them. |
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"Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
My wife wears a cpap mask for bed but cant wear a cloth mask for shopping.
So what is your point ?"
Not overly sure what CPAP masks do. But aren’t they to help you sleep, stop Snoring and for sleep apnea? Would she wear the CPAP mask into a shop then instead of a cloth mask ? |
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"Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
My wife wears a cpap mask for bed but cant wear a cloth mask for shopping.
So what is your point ?
Not overly sure what CPAP masks do. But aren’t they to help you sleep, stop Snoring and for sleep apnea? Would she wear the CPAP mask into a shop then instead of a cloth mask ? "
How on earth would she wear a CPAP mask to go shopping.
She has sleep apnea and asthma.
Be fore you answer we both had the virus in early april thanks to the nhs sending 3 infected patients to the nursing home she works in. |
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"Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
My wife wears a cpap mask for bed but cant wear a cloth mask for shopping.
So what is your point ?
Not overly sure what CPAP masks do. But aren’t they to help you sleep, stop Snoring and for sleep apnea? Would she wear the CPAP mask into a shop then instead of a cloth mask ?
How on earth would she wear a CPAP mask to go shopping.
She has sleep apnea and asthma.
Be fore you answer we both had the virus in early april thanks to the nhs sending 3 infected patients to the nursing home she works in."
Does she not wear a mask to work in a care home ? |
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People with breathing difficulty are different from people that refuse to wear a mask to shop. Most people refuse because they just don’t want to. But will soon wear one if their life depended on it . There are very few people who physically can’t wear a mask yet half the people in shops aren’t wearing them. "
Saw a bloke in the supermarket last week not wearing one.
He was whizzing up and down the aisles with a big shopping trolley of stuff and wasn't the least bit out of breath. |
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"Wonder how many non mask wearers would wear an oxygen mask if their plane got into difficulty or a gas /breathing mask if they were stuck in a building fire. What about if they got ill and needed a ventilator. Or pregnant and wanted gas and air. Or one of many other reasons.
One of the above no I wont people has a pic of them scuba diving .
My wife wears a cpap mask for bed but cant wear a cloth mask for shopping.
So what is your point ?
Not overly sure what CPAP masks do. But aren’t they to help you sleep, stop Snoring and for sleep apnea? Would she wear the CPAP mask into a shop then instead of a cloth mask ?
How on earth would she wear a CPAP mask to go shopping.
She has sleep apnea and asthma.
Be fore you answer we both had the virus in early april thanks to the nhs sending 3 infected patients to the nursing home she works in.
Does she not wear a mask to work in a care home ? "
She can't.
She wears a visor.
She cannot wear a cloth mask .
CPAP masks help her breath.
Cloth masks hinder her breathing. |
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Some interesting reads here.
I started wearing re-usable dust masks and volunteer made cloth masks in shops when it became mandatory, not a moment before. They’re not effective in the slightest at preventing viral transmission because that’s not what they are designed for. I only wear them because I need to go shopping and can’t afford to pay a fine.
Here’s my reasoning.
PPE shortages for the people that actually need them.
Remember that? Now everyone is walking around incorrectly wearing single use surgical masks and discarding them in the street. This angers me no end. Have they forgotten that NHS staff were wearing bin bags, marigolds and swimming goggles because the government in all its greed outsourced management of the U.K. pandemic stockpile to a criminal organisation? I am a volunteer area co-ordinator for a project that has supplied over 200,000 3D printed faceshields to health care professionals in the U.K. and several African nations. Free of charge. Locally my team has supplied 2615 faceshields to NHS and care workers. I was still supplying the NHS with home made PPE when things started opening up and Amazon were selling clean room manufactured CE marked face shields to hairdressers at £25 a go. Theres 8 billion people in the world, we can’t produced 8 billion single use surgical masks a day. PPE is being distributed according to ability to pay, not according to need and that is wrong. The PPE supply chain is not secure, it is incredibly fragile and rife with corruption. Our government is awarding 100s of millions to their friend’s and donors who have no ability to supply usable PPE. And what happens when Trump buys up the entire world supply of surgical masks like he did with Remsdvir? There are health care workers the world over who still don’t have access to adequate PPE.
If you are buying up and using surgical masks to make yourself feel better about going to the shops because you’re privileged enough to be able to afford them you are not benevolent you are selfish.
And don’t try and call me selfish for being an anti masker. I’ve volunteered over 500 hours and donated over £60k worth of PPE to those that actually need it, all while having all of my income stripped from me, denied support, and watching my savings evaporate.
I will be accepting a vaccine IF one becomes available. And that’s a BIG if.
Banging on about the virtue of mask wearing when you don’t have working knowledge of the PPE supply chain is just virtue signalling.
The introduction of mandatory masks in shops has nothing to do with public health, it is about consumer confidence. |
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People with breathing difficulty are different from people that refuse to wear a mask to shop. Most people refuse because they just don’t want to. But will soon wear one if their life depended on it . There are very few people who physically can’t wear a mask yet half the people in shops aren’t wearing them.
Saw a bloke in the supermarket last week not wearing one.
He was whizzing up and down the aisles with a big shopping trolley of stuff and wasn't the least bit out of breath."
Doesn't sound like he was ill either.. |
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People with breathing difficulty are different from people that refuse to wear a mask to shop. Most people refuse because they just don’t want to. But will soon wear one if their life depended on it . There are very few people who physically can’t wear a mask yet half the people in shops aren’t wearing them.
Saw a bloke in the supermarket last week not wearing one.
He was whizzing up and down the aisles with a big shopping trolley of stuff and wasn't the least bit out of breath.
Doesn't sound like he was ill either.."
Doesn't seem like he cared if he made anyone else ill either. |
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I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Since when was a politician a trained medical professional?"
Round about the time brazen singers became scientific medical advisers I suspect.
At the end of the day does it really hurt to comply with 1 small request? NHS staff have been wearing them for between 8-12 hours a day.
Also the wearing of the mask is a visual reminder to keep your distance.
LMP |
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I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Since when was a politician a trained medical professional?
Round about the time brazen singers became scientific medical advisers I suspect.
At the end of the day does it really hurt to comply with 1 small request? NHS staff have been wearing them for between 8-12 hours a day.
Also the wearing of the mask is a visual reminder to keep your distance.
LMP"
A medical mask is to stop the spread of bacteria if you want to stop a virus then wear a boi suit, for fuck shake stop believing this bullshit. |
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over a year ago
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I may get backlash for this but even if it saves one human life I will wear a mask. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I infected someone,a loved one or even a complete stranger. Although it won't impact most people's lives I already know two people who have died from this virus. |
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"I may get backlash for this but even if it saves one human life I will wear a mask. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I infected someone,a loved one or even a complete stranger. Although it won't impact most people's lives I already know two people who have died from this virus."
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"I may get backlash for this but even if it saves one human life I will wear a mask. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I infected someone,a loved one or even a complete stranger. Although it won't impact most people's lives I already know two people who have died from this virus."
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By (user no longer on site)
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Generally just don't go shopping any more so avoiding spreading the virus, but when I do wear one of those paper masks an interesting reaction happens
What I found personally was that it triggers a cough response. I thought it was just me but was out in a restaurant last night it was explained to me that it was my bodies reaction to the slight recycling of air in the mask and perhaps the paper fibres in the mask. Some people like me just can't help coughing.
So whats the point of wearing one if it makes you cough all the time ? Surely it defeats the object ?
I will continue to pursue a policy of retail abstinence.
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If you smoke or you are overweight and haven't lost a kilo a week since April then don't tell me to wear a mask. If you can't be bothered to look after your own health then I don't see why I should do it for you. |
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"If you smoke or you are overweight and haven't lost a kilo a week since April then don't tell me to wear a mask. If you can't be bothered to look after your own health then I don't see why I should do it for you."
I'd rather be fat than stupid |
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I'll be doing what trained professionals have asked us to do...
Since when was a politician a trained medical professional?
Round about the time brazen singers became scientific medical advisers I suspect.
At the end of the day does it really hurt to comply with 1 small request? NHS staff have been wearing them for between 8-12 hours a day.
Also the wearing of the mask is a visual reminder to keep your distance.
LMPA medical mask is to stop the spread of bacteria if you want to stop a virus then wear a boi suit, for fuck shake stop believing this bullshit. "
Oh please not another govt conspiracy... |
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"If you smoke or you are overweight and haven't lost a kilo a week since April then don't tell me to wear a mask. If you can't be bothered to look after your own health then I don't see why I should do it for you.
I'd rather be fat than stupid"
You can be both. |
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"Maybe you should travel to Asia... Where mask wearing has been a thing for about 2 decades for an number of health reasons.
I've travelled all around asia a couple years back for 6 months.
You try make it sound like every asian was wearing a face mask.
I can assure you from my experience that hardly any asians was wearing a face mask anywhere.
When i was using their train public transport out of a full carrage of asians maybe 1 had a face mask on.
And it was never mandatory.
So again answer the question.
IF face masks has the science behind it saying that it protects you and others was corona type viruses like covid, like flu, like colds then why hasnt it been mandated to be compulsory to wear face coverings for decades every single winter/flu season?
In order to save thousands upon thousands of lifes and hundred of thousands if not millions of cases?
The reason being is simply because science knows face masks are ineffective against those types of virus.
This is simply fact.
If it wasnt fact the second covid 19 hit our shores mask wearing would have been one of the first things implemented.
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Thankfully, the world has done unprecedented levels of research since last winter. We've moved on. We're wiser now.
Mask use involves minimal effort and investment of time, money and convenience. In light of what we now know, specifically in relation to covid-19 and masks, it's the reasonably response now to wear a mask in social environments, more so than those indicated by the authorities. There's some great sense in achieving herd immunity from widespread use of flu vaccines, by those who are able to. This supports those unable to have the flu vaccination, for health reasons etc. It also helps those with impaired immune systems, who may not achieve high levels of or lasting immunity. Masks may of course get to become more widespread during periods of prevention infections. The winter period has a recognised sequence of viral infections, including the common cold. Whether public masks have much ability to prevent other infections is still unknown, whilst research is somewhat absent. Wider behavioural changes, including more frequent hand washing, sanitiser use as well as social distancing, will almost certainly help everyone. |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!"
But even in my lifetime I can remember needing to have certain vaccination certificates to be able to travel to certain areas. A repeat of that will happen if and when a vaccination is found effective.
Will be interesting to see how many will have the vaccination to be able to go on their exotic holidays. |
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Im sorry but this is absolute crap. I know people that put a mask on and have anxiety attacks etc. Also my daughter would never be able to leave the house as she has nerve problems and is in constant pain when something touches her face. There's plenty of reasons people physically cant wear one. I wear one as much as i can but occasionally i struggle with my asthma. I can be fine to start with but after a little while its not easy. |
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"Im sorry but this is absolute crap. I know people that put a mask on and have anxiety attacks etc. Also my daughter would never be able to leave the house as she has nerve problems and is in constant pain when something touches her face. There's plenty of reasons people physically cant wear one. I wear one as much as i can but occasionally i struggle with my asthma. I can be fine to start with but after a little while its not easy. "
There will be and there are already exceptions for people with underlying health issues..
Think it's worth bearing in mind that some of those railing and ranting about what they perceive it as controls and compliance etc often are pushing an agenda.. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Vaccinations are not and never will be mandatory.
Full stop!
But even in my lifetime I can remember needing to have certain vaccination certificates to be able to travel to certain areas. A repeat of that will happen if and when a vaccination is found effective.
Will be interesting to see how many will have the vaccination to be able to go on their exotic holidays. "
There are dozens of countries that need Vaccination certificates. Polio. Yellow Fever. Malaria etc. |
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"What other freedoms are you looking forward to giving up?"
Alcohol. Literally pissing folk off that they stop going to pub, as you cant get in because 25 people are filling a wetherspoons the size of wembley, then when pubs shut down, ramp the cost of supermarket booze up so folks dont drink at home either. Then alcohol related illness will reduce and those at the top can say well done with a case of champers |
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