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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first "
That's the role of the border force, should the military he required a request will be made.. |
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me?
Don't riot and they'll leave you alone."
What???? Don’t you know anything about history? People have fought and died and lost their freedoms, through protest and riot, so that you can live the life you do now. |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
That's the role of the border force, should the military he required a request will be made.."
Well there not doing a great job at the moment |
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"British people will febel against local and national lockdowns.
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The government would have to impose martial law... the worst part of it for me is that so many people would actually agree with it!!! |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
That's the role of the border force, should the military he required a request will be made..
Well there not doing a great job at the moment "
Yup..
Maybe if the party that got voted in partly in a ticket to take back control of our borders had not spent the last ten years slashing said border force along with other agencies ..
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
That's the role of the border force, should the military he required a request will be made..
Well there not doing a great job at the moment
Yup..
Maybe if the party that got voted in partly in a ticket to take back control of our borders had not spent the last ten years slashing said border force along with other agencies ..
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Would that have stopped Covid ? |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
That's the role of the border force, should the military he required a request will be made..
Well there not doing a great job at the moment
Yup..
Maybe if the party that got voted in partly in a ticket to take back control of our borders had not spent the last ten years slashing said border force along with other agencies ..
Would that have stopped Covid ?"
Different topic Tom, start a thread on that perhaps..? |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police"
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
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Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s."
Was in the military at the time of the miners strike and there were rumours that some of the boys from Hereford were doing intelligence gathering, not sure it was anything but bar talk.. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s."
And sent gunships up the mersey. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
They are both employed by her majesty's government so i guess they would.
People ignoring guidelines...
It's inevitable"
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me?
Don't riot and they'll leave you alone.
What???? Don’t you know anything about history? People have fought and died and lost their freedoms, through protest and riot, so that you can live the life you do now. "
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s."
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course."
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
They are both employed by her majesty's government so i guess they would. "
I don’t think they would introduce martial law- they would be inviting civil war and the destruction of the monarchy. The queen has spent decades keeping the peace. There’s no way she would authorise the army going against her own people. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh."
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens |
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"Riot training is part of there training just like the police Boris will never put the country on lock down again .
The country could not sustain it "
its not unthinkable though that were there are local lockdowns there could be local riots ... its been a long year so far or people feeing copped up, many will lose jobs as we go into winter and furlough ends , boredom and frustration breeds this kind of behaviour
nothing wrong with them having training”just in case” |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens"
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering.. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering.."
Lucky you  I would love to be in that place right now tbh x |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering.."
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can."
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
That's the role of the border force, should the military he required a request will be made..
Well there not doing a great job at the moment "
Seriously!? A bunch of poor fuckers in a dinghy is what worries you?! |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can."
You know what I like about you? Sometimes you say things i really like... sometimes you say things I really don’t.. But you always seem impartial. I really respect that, and I’m glad to see it on the forums here.
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.
You know what I like about you? Sometimes you say things i really like... sometimes you say things I really don’t.. But you always seem impartial. I really respect that, and I’m glad to see it on the forums here.
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over a year ago
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"Well why are they training for it?
Same as they will have likely trained for NBC, skill at arms, cam and concealment etc etc..
Doesn't mean there's about yi be a war.."
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.
You know what I like about you? Sometimes you say things i really like... sometimes you say things I really don’t.. But you always seem impartial. I really respect that, and I’m glad to see it on the forums here.
Gemini split personality "
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can."
not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering |
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me? "
It's part of their normal training as soldiers due to situations they could encounter on out of area detachments... |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering"
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history. "
i think people are often surprised at how homogenous their social (media especially) circles are too ... you tend to unfollow people not on your level
not remember all the people gobsmacked that trump got in cause they didnt literally know a single person voting for him? |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history.
i think people are often surprised at how homogenous their social (media especially) circles are too ... you tend to unfollow people not on your level
not remember all the people gobsmacked that trump got in cause they didnt literally know a single person voting for him? "
I’m not on Facebook, so don’t get the joy of reading all the bill gates lizard people theories. I am actually not a conspiracy theorist.. I just don’t want to wear a mask, and I don’t want this to be the new normal. That is all x |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history.
i think people are often surprised at how homogenous their social (media especially) circles are too ... you tend to unfollow people not on your level
not remember all the people gobsmacked that trump got in cause they didnt literally know a single person voting for him? "
Very true. We are connected only to people like us.
I guess that's why all my friends are astonishingly handsome, ridiculously well hung and with the bodies of Olympic gymnasts. |
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"Standard refresher training, but maybe there could be troible brewing in the Baltic. According to the latvian news?
In which case they could ask for NATOs help?"
And we all saw how well that one went with crimea |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history.
i think people are often surprised at how homogenous their social (media especially) circles are too ... you tend to unfollow people not on your level
not remember all the people gobsmacked that trump got in cause they didnt literally know a single person voting for him?
Very true. We are connected only to people like us.
I guess that's why all my friends are astonishingly handsome, ridiculously well hung and with the bodies of Olympic gymnasts. "
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history.
i think people are often surprised at how homogenous their social (media especially) circles are too ... you tend to unfollow people not on your level
not remember all the people gobsmacked that trump got in cause they didnt literally know a single person voting for him?
I’m not on Facebook, so don’t get the joy of reading all the bill gates lizard people theories. I am actually not a conspiracy theorist.. I just don’t want to wear a mask, and I don’t want this to be the new normal. That is all x "
wasnt suggesting you were, all i meant was because you dont see “simmering rage” in your circles doesn't mean it doesn't exist out there |
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"Hopefully they're used as doormen in shops to stop all the selfish twats without masks getting in! "
Because deploying the military against people for not wearing masks sounds like a completely sensible thing to do.
I'm all for people wearing masks but this is ridiculous. |
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"Hopefully they're used as doormen in shops to stop all the selfish twats without masks getting in!
Because deploying the military against people for not wearing masks sounds like a completely sensible thing to do.
I'm all for people wearing masks but this is ridiculous. "
If there's another lockdown, people will ignore it. There is no excuse for not wearing a mask in a shop and before the medical conditions crowd jump on me, how else to you get through to the thicko's who won't wear for non medical reasons. I would gladly be deputised to prevent the 'human rights' bullshit brigade entering shops. If a woman can walk about in high heels, not comfortable I'm sure, what's the big deal about wearing a mask.
My ex encountered a woman who refused to wear a mask in a Spar. Stating she didn't care and didn't know anyone vulnerable. My ex took off her baseball cap to reveal a bald head through chemo, telling her she was standing beside a vulnerable person now. It was a tongue in cheek suggestion but seeing what people write on here,against wearing masks, I wouldn't be surprised if the military where tasked. |
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"Hopefully they're used as doormen in shops to stop all the selfish twats without masks getting in!
Because deploying the military against people for not wearing masks sounds like a completely sensible thing to do.
I'm all for people wearing masks but this is ridiculous.
If there's another lockdown, people will ignore it. There is no excuse for not wearing a mask in a shop and before the medical conditions crowd jump on me, how else to you get through to the thicko's who won't wear for non medical reasons. I would gladly be deputised to prevent the 'human rights' bullshit brigade entering shops. If a woman can walk about in high heels, not comfortable I'm sure, what's the big deal about wearing a mask.
My ex encountered a woman who refused to wear a mask in a Spar. Stating she didn't care and didn't know anyone vulnerable. My ex took off her baseball cap to reveal a bald head through chemo, telling her she was standing beside a vulnerable person now. It was a tongue in cheek suggestion but seeing what people write on here,against wearing masks, I wouldn't be surprised if the military where tasked. "
To quote Benjamin Franklin:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety , deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".
Stay at home if you're terrified. No amount of "my ex" sob stories will change my view. Our nearest and dearest is either front line covid ward or actively shielding so every day is worrying for us.
But even so, we still don't feel the need to sick the military on people, least of all human rights supporters.
Deputized against the 'human rights' bullshit brigade my bum. I'm more worried about fascists like yourself than the clowns who wont wear a mask!
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"Hopefully they're used as doormen in shops to stop all the selfish twats without masks getting in! "
Or to stop people panic buying,stripping supermarket shelves,congregating in large numbers,spreading the virus....you know,the ones who really cause the problems. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
But Churchill was more of a knob than Boris. I see it as another example of tabloids looking for headlines out of nothing.
Riot training is standard practice....nothing to see here unless you are a consliracy theorist of course.
Yeah I cant see us being on the edge of urban meltdown tbh.
There’s a simmering rage ... people are angry. Let’s see what happens
Most of the simmering rage is created by social media.. the average/normal person is not simmering..
Not seeing much simmering here either. Just people getting on with their lives as best they can.not much simmering here either... Frustration but no simmering
Well that’s the great thing about social media- people can organise themselves ...in the old days as well, to be fair, considering all the resistance that has risen up over the course of history.
i think people are often surprised at how homogenous their social (media especially) circles are too ... you tend to unfollow people not on your level
not remember all the people gobsmacked that trump got in cause they didnt literally know a single person voting for him?
I’m not on Facebook, so don’t get the joy of reading all the bill gates lizard people theories. I am actually not a conspiracy theorist.. I just don’t want to wear a mask, and I don’t want this to be the new normal. That is all x
wasnt suggesting you were, all i meant was because you dont see “simmering rage” in your circles doesn't mean it doesn't exist out there "
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"Hopefully they're used as doormen in shops to stop all the selfish twats without masks getting in!
Because deploying the military against people for not wearing masks sounds like a completely sensible thing to do.
I'm all for people wearing masks but this is ridiculous.
If there's another lockdown, people will ignore it. There is no excuse for not wearing a mask in a shop and before the medical conditions crowd jump on me, how else to you get through to the thicko's who won't wear for non medical reasons. I would gladly be deputised to prevent the 'human rights' bullshit brigade entering shops. If a woman can walk about in high heels, not comfortable I'm sure, what's the big deal about wearing a mask.
My ex encountered a woman who refused to wear a mask in a Spar. Stating she didn't care and didn't know anyone vulnerable. My ex took off her baseball cap to reveal a bald head through chemo, telling her she was standing beside a vulnerable person now. It was a tongue in cheek suggestion but seeing what people write on here,against wearing masks, I wouldn't be surprised if the military where tasked.
To quote Benjamin Franklin:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety , deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".
Stay at home if you're terrified. No amount of "my ex" sob stories will change my view. Our nearest and dearest is either front line covid ward or actively shielding so every day is worrying for us.
But even so, we still don't feel the need to sick the military on people, least of all human rights supporters.
Deputized against the 'human rights' bullshit brigade my bum. I'm more worried about fascists like yourself than the clowns who wont wear a mask!
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me? "
Soldiers in Ireland are regularly given riot training. Goes back to prison guards threatening to strike a few years ago and may day riots when they were still a thing. A just in case kind of thing |
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"Use army on Oldham as they ignore the rules and put us all at risk
Army should being used now as police haven't got resource to enforce to ensure lockdown "
Everyone in Oldham? |
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over a year ago
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"Use army on Oldham as they ignore the rules and put us all at risk
Army should being used now as police haven't got resource to enforce to ensure lockdown
Everyone in Oldham? "
To many so yes use army |
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"Use army on Oldham as they ignore the rules and put us all at risk
Army should being used now as police haven't got resource to enforce to ensure lockdown
Everyone in Oldham?
To many so yes use army"
Why is it a military issue to police covid, the just stupidity. Who polices council car parks, council employed traffic wardens, you hae council employed liter wardens too, councils just need to hire a team of covid wardens to issue fines of rule breakers. Certainly not military personnel. |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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Boris needs to go agreed
But risking infecting emergencyy services and army is wrong.
Start a petition to sack Boris. He doesn't like bad publicity
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A petition for captain got to a million in o time
One to get rid of Boris would have 1o million by monday]
Rioting plays to into Boris hands can't you see that |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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"Use army on Oldham as they ignore the rules and put us all at risk
Army should being used now as police haven't got resource to enforce to ensure lockdown
Everyone in Oldham?
To many so yes use army
Why is it a military issue to police covid, the just stupidity. Who polices council car parks, council employed traffic wardens, you hae council employed liter wardens too, councils just need to hire a team of covid wardens to issue fines of rule breakers. Certainly not military personnel. "
Maybe army would send this is very serious not a game!!!! Message
Do a route cause analysis when done the results will show why certain town's impacted
Have you any ideas why certain towns impacted be interested in your view |
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"Boris needs to go agreed
But risking infecting emergencyy services and army is wrong.
Start a petition to sack Boris. He doesn't like bad publicity
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A petition for captain got to a million in o time
One to get rid of Boris would have 1o million by monday]
Rioting plays to into Boris hands can't you see that "
I agree with zest for life that rioting is not the answer - people will always lose sympathy once looting and mindless destruction occurs. Mass protest and civil disobedience on the other hand... Probably going to have more effect than signing names on a clipboard.
Out of interest- how does rioting play into Johnson’s hands, would you say? |
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"Boris needs to go agreed
But risking infecting emergencyy services and army is wrong.
Start a petition to sack Boris. He doesn't like bad publicity
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A petition for captain got to a million in o time
One to get rid of Boris would have 1o million by monday]
Rioting plays to into Boris hands can't you see that
I agree with zest for life that rioting is not the answer - people will always lose sympathy once looting and mindless destruction occurs. Mass protest and civil disobedience on the other hand... Probably going to have more effect than signing names on a clipboard.
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Although having said that, the climate change protesters were very peaceful and they were pretty much mocked and ignored. |
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me? "
My ex regularly participated in riot training in his police role. This is no different, they need to practice techniques and fitness. I think it may be called crowd control or something else. |
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I remember when people were circulating the pics of army vehicles on the M1. What a load of bullshit that turned out to be. All designed to panic people.
Our Army train to operate like that all the time. It’s business as usual. |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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"Boris needs to go agreed
But risking infecting emergencyy services and army is wrong.
Start a petition to sack Boris. He doesn't like bad publicity
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A petition for captain got to a million in o time
One to get rid of Boris would have 1o million by monday]
Rioting plays to into Boris hands can't you see that
I agree with zest for life that rioting is not the answer - people will always lose sympathy once looting and mindless destruction occurs. Mass protest and civil disobedience on the other hand... Probably going to have more effect than signing names on a clipboard.
Out of interest- how does rioting play into Johnson’s hands, would you say? "
Plays into his hands when people loot |
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"Use army on Oldham as they ignore the rules and put us all at risk
Army should being used now as police haven't got resource to enforce to ensure lockdown
Everyone in Oldham?
To many so yes use army
Why is it a military issue to police covid, the just stupidity. Who polices council car parks, council employed traffic wardens, you hae council employed liter wardens too, councils just need to hire a team of covid wardens to issue fines of rule breakers. Certainly not military personnel. "
What would be even easier, and cheaper, would be if people didn't break the rules. |
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"Boris needs to go agreed
But risking infecting emergencyy services and army is wrong.
Start a petition to sack Boris. He doesn't like bad publicity
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A petition for captain got to a million in o time
One to get rid of Boris would have 1o million by monday]
Rioting plays to into Boris hands can't you see that
I agree with zest for life that rioting is not the answer - people will always lose sympathy once looting and mindless destruction occurs. Mass protest and civil disobedience on the other hand... Probably going to have more effect than signing names on a clipboard.
Out of interest- how does rioting play into Johnson’s hands, would you say?
Plays into his hands when people loot"
But I’m not talking about looting. I think it’s disgusting behaviour and only serves to undermine whichever causes people are protesting/rioting about in the first place. |
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Please tell me a better way to address the government right now than mass protest/civil disobedience? Boris Johnson is on bloody holiday while the entire country turns to shit. We elect and pay the government to lead us, not destroy our economy and welfare. It’s about time we, as a people say- enough is enough. "
And how is that going to address what has already happened?
The alternative to lockdown was what exactly?
Just carry on as normal and just dig big holes to shovel the bodies into?
While I fully agree that the organisation has been slipshod, we are where we are, grow up and accept it. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police"
Having lived and worked in garrison towns most of my adult life I can say we are royally fucked if the army are used in an enforcement role |
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"Well why are they training for it?"
Probably for when people say no to a mandated vaccine. (I know i know some people dont think it will ever be mandated and i hope you are correct, we shall see).
So its either riot training for that or its riot training for when it all comes out (possibly next year when the gislene maxwell case goes to court) that very powerful people from goverments, bankers, A listed celebs and even royalty are all implicated in the trafficking, torturing, abusing and even murder of thousands of kids.... so yeah if that happpens i would expect a lot of rioting but not against each other or local buisnesses but towards the ones at the very top. |
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Probably for when people say no to a mandated vaccine. (I know i know some people dont think it will ever be mandated and i hope you are correct, we shall see).
So its either riot training for that or its riot training for when it all comes out (possibly next year when the gislene maxwell case goes to court) that very powerful people from goverments, bankers, A listed celebs and even royalty are all implicated in the trafficking, torturing, abusing and even murder of thousands of kids.... so yeah if that happpens i would expect a lot of rioting but not against each other or local buisnesses but towards the ones at the very top."
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me? "
P-lease!!! .... and then they wonder where fake news comes from!
Troops are exercising war on Salisbury Plain ....does this mean there is going to be one! Soldiers practice all sorts of drills for all sorts of scenarios all the time.
I recall last year, an Army unit was exercising using empty industrial units in Swindon.... that’s all it was an exercise! The local press got hold of it and spun it into a story that they were there preparing for civil unrest ahead of Brexit!!
Media .... don’t ya just love em!!! |
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"Well why are they training for it?
Probably for when people say no to a mandated vaccine. (I know i know some people dont think it will ever be mandated and i hope you are correct, we shall see).
So its either riot training for that or its riot training for when it all comes out (possibly next year when the gislene maxwell case goes to court) that very powerful people from goverments, bankers, A listed celebs and even royalty are all implicated in the trafficking, torturing, abusing and even murder of thousands of kids.... so yeah if that happpens i would expect a lot of rioting but not against each other or local buisnesses but towards the ones at the very top.
They using anti lizard guns? "
And by that i assume you are saying its all nonsense and a conspiracy right that hundreds of thousands of kids are trafficked each year and by powerful people?
Well thats fine you believe what you want to believe.
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me?
P-lease!!! .... and then they wonder where fake news comes from!
Troops are exercising war on Salisbury Plain ....does this mean there is going to be one! Soldiers practice all sorts of drills for all sorts of scenarios all the time.
I recall last year, an Army unit was exercising using empty industrial units in Swindon.... that’s all it was an exercise! The local press got hold of it and spun it into a story that they were there preparing for civil unrest ahead of Brexit!!
Media .... don’t ya just love em!!!"
Surely that's what they were doing,? |
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me?
P-lease!!! .... and then they wonder where fake news comes from!
Troops are exercising war on Salisbury Plain ....does this mean there is going to be one! Soldiers practice all sorts of drills for all sorts of scenarios all the time.
I recall last year, an Army unit was exercising using empty industrial units in Swindon.... that’s all it was an exercise! The local press got hold of it and spun it into a story that they were there preparing for civil unrest ahead of Brexit!!
Media .... don’t ya just love em!!!
Surely that's what they were doing,?"
Nope .... absolutely nothing to do with Brexit at all ... a completely different reason! |
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I'm all in favor of peaceful protest but,if there was mass,violent unrest on top of all the other stuff we're all having to deal with,and the armed forces were called upon to help keep order,you wouldn't hear much complaint from me.
We all have enough to worry about at the moment without gangs of thugs terrorizing people,wrecking stuff and looting.
Do that,, risk getting your head cracked by a soldier....seems ok to me. |
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"Wonder if the army will support the police
There are laid down procedures for such requests, military aid to civil communities etc..
Even with such things like the poll tax riots no home secretary wants to have to ask the PM to instruct the defence secretary to roll the troops out..
Looks bad..
Even margaret Thatcher didn't use it against the miners, although she did consider it. Churchill did send the army against the welsh miners in the 1910s.
Was in the military at the time of the miners strike and there were rumours that some of the boys from Hereford were doing intelligence gathering, not sure it was anything but bar talk.."
It was true. |
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Probably for when people say no to a mandated vaccine. (I know i know some people dont think it will ever be mandated and i hope you are correct, we shall see).
So its either riot training for that or its riot training for when it all comes out (possibly next year when the gislene maxwell case goes to court) that very powerful people from goverments, bankers, A listed celebs and even royalty are all implicated in the trafficking, torturing, abusing and even murder of thousands of kids.... so yeah if that happpens i would expect a lot of rioting but not against each other or local buisnesses but towards the ones at the very top.
They using anti lizard guns?
And by that i assume you are saying its all nonsense and a conspiracy right that hundreds of thousands of kids are trafficked each year and by powerful people?
Well thats fine you believe what you want to believe.
Its all going to come out sooner or later."
Nothing is going to come out because it's all made up shit. |
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What does that worry me? "
Before you all go off the deep end....
Thanks to a whole bunch of silly fuckers, Brexit is coming.
The key pinch point is the six counties of north east Ireland.
There is something of a history in thsoe parts of civil disorder. Quite how things will be managed once the government has managed to screw up the local economy and impose a border in the Irish Sea that it promised it wouldn't imppose is anyone's guess, but both sides in the Six Counties have form for taking their people out on the streets if they don't like the way things are going..
If I were the General Staff right now I'd be asking my team to prepare for a reunion tour of the Six Counties, but preferably without the shoot to kill policy or the Paras slaughtering anyone they don't like the look of....
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me? Before you all go off the deep end....
Thanks to a whole bunch of silly fuckers, Brexit is coming.
The key pinch point is the six counties of north east Ireland.
There is something of a history in thsoe parts of civil disorder. Quite how things will be managed once the government has managed to screw up the local economy and impose a border in the Irish Sea that it promised it wouldn't imppose is anyone's guess, but both sides in the Six Counties have form for taking their people out on the streets if they don't like the way things are going..
If I were the General Staff right now I'd be asking my team to prepare for a reunion tour of the Six Counties, but preferably without the shoot to kill policy or the Paras slaughtering anyone they don't like the look of....
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Because deploying the military against people for not wearing masks sounds like a completely sensible thing to do.
I'm all for people wearing masks but this is ridiculous.
If there's another lockdown, people will ignore it. There is no excuse for not wearing a mask in a shop and before the medical conditions crowd jump on me, how else to you get through to the thicko's who won't wear for non medical reasons. I would gladly be deputised to prevent the 'human rights' bullshit brigade entering shops. If a woman can walk about in high heels, not comfortable I'm sure, what's the big deal about wearing a mask.
My ex encountered a woman who refused to wear a mask in a Spar. Stating she didn't care and didn't know anyone vulnerable. My ex took off her baseball cap to reveal a bald head through chemo, telling her she was standing beside a vulnerable person now. It was a tongue in cheek suggestion but seeing what people write on here,against wearing masks, I wouldn't be surprised if the military where tasked.
To quote Benjamin Franklin:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety , deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".
Stay at home if you're terrified. No amount of "my ex" sob stories will change my view. Our nearest and dearest is either front line covid ward or actively shielding so every day is worrying for us.
But even so, we still don't feel the need to sick the military on people, least of all human rights supporters.
Deputized against the 'human rights' bullshit brigade my bum. I'm more worried about fascists like yourself than the clowns who wont wear a mask!
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Have you read any of the 'human rights', I'd bet not. Every human right has the caveat, will not apply to spreading dangerous diseases. People like you who bleat about wearing masks, a first world problem! Try scurrying for food in the slums of Mumbai and then complain about it. You'll be looking for a mask then to keep the stench at bay. I'm glad you weren't about during the world wars. I'm sorry major, I can't advance on the enemy until I get my toenails cut as its sore to walk! |
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"Troops based in Colchester- going through a programme of riot control training.
What does that worry me? Before you all go off the deep end....
Thanks to a whole bunch of silly fuckers, Brexit is coming.
The key pinch point is the six counties of north east Ireland.
There is something of a history in thsoe parts of civil disorder. Quite how things will be managed once the government has managed to screw up the local economy and impose a border in the Irish Sea that it promised it wouldn't imppose is anyone's guess, but both sides in the Six Counties have form for taking their people out on the streets if they don't like the way things are going..
If I were the General Staff right now I'd be asking my team to prepare for a reunion tour of the Six Counties, but preferably without the shoot to kill policy or the Paras slaughtering anyone they don't like the look of....
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Maybe that is why they're undergoing riot training but from here the idea is improbable and fanciful. The only party that would like to see the military return to the North are the DUP and they're irrelevant in UK politics. The internal customs border is pretty much a done deal. Yes, its going to be chaos and damaging to the local economy but the Torys won't lose sleep over that.
On another note, I do wish to congratulate folks on modelling the latest in tinfoil fashions. Its all very imaginative. |
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It seems this all stems from people who won't wear a mask.
1. Wear a mask=if you have covid and don't know it, it helps limit the spread of disease, Fact! Ask any surgeon or nurse.
2.Dont wear a mask for any reason other than a proven condition = downright bloody selfishness, stupid and not someone I'd want to be around. Do the swingers on here who won't wear masks, wear condoms? |
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"It seems this all stems from people who won't wear a mask.
1. Wear a mask=if you have covid and don't know it, it helps limit the spread of disease, Fact! Ask any surgeon or nurse.
2.Dont wear a mask for any reason other than a proven condition = downright bloody selfishness, stupid and not someone I'd want to be around. Do the swingers on here who won't wear masks, wear condoms? "
No. Show me a mask dodger and I will show you a condom dodger |
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"Better that they are trained to handle riot situations than not trained surely??"
True, kinda a double edged sword. Worrying that they are preparing to suppress protest.
But on the other hand, look at Trump’s storm troopers he sent into Portland. Completely untrained, scared little boys given automatic weapons and conditioned to fear darker skin tones. No concept of de-escalation. Terrifying. |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first "
If we stopped sending troops and bombs over seas there wouldn’t be so many people in dinghys.
That Sudanese boy who drowned in the channel, that’s on us.
Show some compassion, don’t show them guns. |
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It is part of there normal training and with less over sea's mask more sense to train for some thing you might be called on to do.
And you are now not allowed to use the prone position when restraining so it's good they are getting up to date. |
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"It seems this all stems from people who won't wear a mask.
1. Wear a mask=if you have covid and don't know it, it helps limit the spread of disease, Fact! Ask any surgeon or nurse.
2.Dont wear a mask for any reason other than a proven condition = downright bloody selfishness, stupid and not someone I'd want to be around. Do the swingers on here who won't wear masks, wear condoms? "
I have seen a number of people not wearing masks, and I do ‘judge’ that they are most likely irresponsible.
I fully understand that some have severe respiratory issues that would possibly make this difficult ... but surely if they are that severe, they are are at inherently greater risk of COVID ... aren’t these exactly the people who should be either staying at home - or wearing a mask if they do have to go out!
Without being descriptive, The people I have seen in the shops who seem ‘exempt’ look to me more the kind that just can’t be bothered, or don’t give a toss!!
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What does that worry me? "
Why would that worry anyone?
This country has lost the plot. The police can't cope. It's time to restore some law and order. It's a simple equation really - just behave yourself, don't break the law, don't damage property, disperse when told to. Go home quietly when told to. No-one gets hurt.
Or is it ok to misbehave, do as you like, damage property, assault police ?
I'll back any authority decision to hit these idiots as hard as possible to restore some order and send a very strong message that unlawfulness will not be tolerated.
Sadly, it won't happen and nothing will change and we'll all be worse off for it. |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
If we stopped sending troops and bombs over seas there wouldn’t be so many people in dinghys.
That Sudanese boy who drowned in the channel, that’s on us.
Show some compassion, don’t show them guns."
Lies. That so called boy was actually 26. BBC later corrected their sensationalised report.
If there was a genuine asylum claim, they can lodge it with the UK from the safety of France or any of the other countries travelled through as we have joint agreements. No need for the boat journey lining the pockets of career criminals. Perhaps that 26 year old didn't have a legitimate claim. |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
Maybe it's to move on the people standing in the cliffs watching them drown "
The people on the cliffs I'm pretty sure never forced them to cross, nor are they in a position to jump off said cliffs and go save anyone. Comments like this I think, cool let's just open the chunnel to pedestrians and let freedom of movement apply. Coming to a street near you. The reason we survived 2 world wars is because we were an island. Why point a finger at the uk when it's across the water that's allowing it to happen. I'm glad we have Brexit because being in Europe much longer would have destroyed all that our ancestors fought and died for.
If anyone feels so strongly about it, go use all your savings and become a missionary and do your bit, at least it will be your choice not something forced on the rest of us. No tin hat here, borders and border controls are there for a reason.
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
If we stopped sending troops and bombs over seas there wouldn’t be so many people in dinghys.
That Sudanese boy who drowned in the channel, that’s on us.
Show some compassion, don’t show them guns.
Lies. That so called boy was actually 26. BBC later corrected their sensationalised report.
If there was a genuine asylum claim, they can lodge it with the UK from the safety of France or any of the other countries travelled through as we have joint agreements. No need for the boat journey lining the pockets of career criminals. Perhaps that 26 year old didn't have a legitimate claim. "
Or maybe he just thought like many in the uk , the rules don't apply to him
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By *xccvvMan
over a year ago
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Not read all the posts, having been in the Army many years ago, and for many years, we did riot training and never deployed to the streets of England, yes Northern Ireland, but that was for different reasons.
The troops will not be sent to the streets on the UK for several reasons, main reason is it shows a break down in the system, which will be used against the current Government for years to come, and will cost them an election. Politicians are sensitive people, and not like looking bad |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
If we stopped sending troops and bombs over seas there wouldn’t be so many people in dinghys.
That Sudanese boy who drowned in the channel, that’s on us.
Show some compassion, don’t show them guns.
Lies. That so called boy was actually 26. BBC later corrected their sensationalised report.
If there was a genuine asylum claim, they can lodge it with the UK from the safety of France or any of the other countries travelled through as we have joint agreements. No need for the boat journey lining the pockets of career criminals. Perhaps that 26 year old didn't have a legitimate claim. "
26 you say?
Well me sympathy goes out the window ,then as his life didnt matter then as he was in double figure. |
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"Army on the streets soon
They should put some on the beach at Dover to sort out the rubber dinghys first
Maybe it's to move on the people standing in the cliffs watching them drown
The people on the cliffs I'm pretty sure never forced them to cross, nor are they in a position to jump off said cliffs and go save anyone. Comments like this I think, cool let's just open the chunnel to pedestrians and let freedom of movement apply. Coming to a street near you. The reason we survived 2 world wars is because we were an island. Why point a finger at the uk when it's across the water that's allowing it to happen. I'm glad we have Brexit because being in Europe much longer would have destroyed all that our ancestors fought and died for.
If anyone feels so strongly about it, go use all your savings and become a missionary and do your bit, at least it will be your choice not something forced on the rest of us. No tin hat here, borders and border controls are there for a reason.
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You realise we fought ww2 alongside French,poles,Czechs etc etc.?
I never knew our ancestors died so we could have blue passports
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Maybe they are just doing routine practice. 
