We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey. |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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Tell 65k additional deaths family deaths that the incovienve is to much there lives don't matter.
Worried you think a full essay will get you permission to infect others
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The sign of civilisation is caring for the vulnerable.
A sign of maturity is delayed gratification.
So I do what I can to stop the spread, give healthcare breathing room to treat the sick, and scientists time to find treatment and vaccine candidates.
Stay home, wank, help the NHS. |
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"The sign of civilisation is caring for the vulnerable.
A sign of maturity is delayed gratification.
So I do what I can to stop the spread, give healthcare breathing room to treat the sick, and scientists time to find treatment and vaccine candidates.
Stay home, wank, help the NHS."
If most people did this we would move on a lot quicker.
Prescription wanking.... There's a idea.... NHS cubicles for pleasure.. |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey."
You make some simplistic points that are not new and which most people have previously come to but your use of derisory language only means that others will respond accordingly..
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Isn't what the government trying to do being done in order to try and return to that, in a way that outbreaks are manageable? Surely the relaxation of the lockdown and social distancing indicates that we are moving towards what was normal, with caution in case the virus does take hold in a big way again.
Historically, a high proportion of pandemics have resulted in a second wave, a second wave which in some cases has eclipsed the first wave in the number of infections and deaths.
40 plus thousand deaths and one of the worst death rates in Europe puts the government in a pretty awkward place, if they open everything up and it all goes wrong again, it's something they're not willing to risk... |
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Did you read the full post? We do take the health of others seriously. We isolate before and after having a meal with someone. That's more than most people would do just going the the bloody supermarket. The thought of us passing it to someone else horrifies us. If we got sick so what. It's going to happen eventually if it hasn't already. It's making the safer choices, like isolating before and after that social meeting, that's important. How many people are back at work, side by side with people outside their bubbles? Shop workers who don't have to wear masks while customers do. What the difference between that and meeting a couple for drinks and a meal? Isn't what we do safer? We stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days. Isn't that taking personal responsibility and caring for others? During that isolation we don't even go shopping. We buy online anyway and it's dropped at our back door. Drivers deliver to dozens of people a day and don't wear masks or sanitze every delivery. Yet we take our own precautions. But we want a life. Not just fear and doom. We are responsible with what we do. Just like wearing condoms is a responsible act so is isolating before and after a social. We arnt playing but we are being social with responsible conditions . |
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"Grow up
Open your eyes the world isnt flat
We need take this seriously with discipline
Or you happy to sacrifice vulnerable "
Give it a rest - the poster hasn't stated they're not abiding by restrictions. Or have I misread it? |
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"The sign of civilisation is caring for the vulnerable.
A sign of maturity is delayed gratification.
So I do what I can to stop the spread, give healthcare breathing room to treat the sick, and scientists time to find treatment and vaccine candidates.
Stay home, wank, help the NHS.
If most people did this we would move on a lot quicker.
Prescription wanking.... There's a idea.... NHS cubicles for pleasure.. "
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"Grow up
Open your eyes the world isnt flat
We need take this seriously with discipline
Or you happy to sacrifice vulnerable
Give it a rest - the poster hasn't stated they're not abiding by restrictions. Or have I misread it? "
I thought that, too
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"Did you read the full post? We do take the health of others seriously. We isolate before and after having a meal with someone. That's more than most people would do just going the the bloody supermarket. The thought of us passing it to someone else horrifies us. If we got sick so what. It's going to happen eventually if it hasn't already. It's making the safer choices, like isolating before and after that social meeting, that's important. How many people are back at work, side by side with people outside their bubbles? Shop workers who don't have to wear masks while customers do. What the difference between that and meeting a couple for drinks and a meal? Isn't what we do safer? We stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days. Isn't that taking personal responsibility and caring for others? During that isolation we don't even go shopping. We buy online anyway and it's dropped at our back door. Drivers deliver to dozens of people a day and don't wear masks or sanitze every delivery. Yet we take our own precautions. But we want a life. Not just fear and doom. We are responsible with what we do. Just like wearing condoms is a responsible act so is isolating before and after a social. We arnt playing but we are being social with responsible conditions . "
We well may all get it eventually, but if we all get it at the same time, and the hospitals get over run like we all saw on TV happening in Spain and Italy, then more people will die because of the lack of effective treatment, more Doctors and Nurses could die trying to cope with excessive workloads.
If we all get it slowly but surely, then we have a much better chance of saving far more people from an early demise. |
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"Did you read the full post? We do take the health of others seriously. We isolate before and after having a meal with someone. That's more than most people would do just going the the bloody supermarket. The thought of us passing it to someone else horrifies us. If we got sick so what. It's going to happen eventually if it hasn't already. It's making the safer choices, like isolating before and after that social meeting, that's important. How many people are back at work, side by side with people outside their bubbles? Shop workers who don't have to wear masks while customers do. What the difference between that and meeting a couple for drinks and a meal? Isn't what we do safer? We stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days. Isn't that taking personal responsibility and caring for others? During that isolation we don't even go shopping. We buy online anyway and it's dropped at our back door. Drivers deliver to dozens of people a day and don't wear masks or sanitze every delivery. Yet we take our own precautions. But we want a life. Not just fear and doom. We are responsible with what we do. Just like wearing condoms is a responsible act so is isolating before and after a social. We arnt playing but we are being social with responsible conditions .
We well may all get it eventually, but if we all get it at the same time, and the hospitals get over run like we all saw on TV happening in Spain and Italy, then more people will die because of the lack of effective treatment, more Doctors and Nurses could die trying to cope with excessive workloads.
If we all get it slowly but surely, then we have a much better chance of saving far more people from an early demise."
And that's why we isolate. We just think that taking sensible precautions is better that outright fear. That we can live around this virus rather than letting it stop society as a whole. Evolution is about adaptation. We can't just stop and stagnate. Concentrate on treatments while also working on a vaccine. Treatments are more likely to be a viable way forward than a vaccine anyway. Mitigate the symptoms and take sensible , measured precautions. If your Ill stay home. If someone you have met is ill stay home. Buy you still need to live. What we have not is not living. It's existing in fear while doing the opposite of what's recommended. There has to be an alternative to non effective social distancing rules. As I said. People work with others outside their bubbles without masks or social distancing, where is the difference between that and eating in a restaurant or bar. You can't have 1 rule for some and change the rule elsewhere and still say it works. I'm not saying go back to the way it was before we have treatments in place but we do need to move on , just be responsible doing it. Isolate and mitigate. Meet all you want but space it out and be safe. Take the time between meets. Then even if the other person hasn't taken the same care as you you are still protecting the next people you meet by taking that time to ensure your safe. Is that such a bad thing to do? It could help so many lonely people to be able to see someone face to face every 2 weeks. Just give them something to look forward to. It's so dark out there we need something to shine for |
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I think it's quite sad that you start getting stick for post this from some quarters. It's just a point of view that should be expressed and yet the Covid Nazis start running around you whooping and hollering like Red indians at General Custers last stand.
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"Did you read the full post? We do take the health of others seriously. We isolate before and after having a meal with someone. That's more than most people would do just going the the bloody supermarket. The thought of us passing it to someone else horrifies us. If we got sick so what. It's going to happen eventually if it hasn't already. It's making the safer choices, like isolating before and after that social meeting, that's important. How many people are back at work, side by side with people outside their bubbles? Shop workers who don't have to wear masks while customers do. What the difference between that and meeting a couple for drinks and a meal? Isn't what we do safer? We stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days. Isn't that taking personal responsibility and caring for others? During that isolation we don't even go shopping. We buy online anyway and it's dropped at our back door. Drivers deliver to dozens of people a day and don't wear masks or sanitze every delivery. Yet we take our own precautions. But we want a life. Not just fear and doom. We are responsible with what we do. Just like wearing condoms is a responsible act so is isolating before and after a social. We arnt playing but we are being social with responsible conditions .
We well may all get it eventually, but if we all get it at the same time, and the hospitals get over run like we all saw on TV happening in Spain and Italy, then more people will die because of the lack of effective treatment, more Doctors and Nurses could die trying to cope with excessive workloads.
If we all get it slowly but surely, then we have a much better chance of saving far more people from an early demise.
And that's why we isolate. We just think that taking sensible precautions is better that outright fear. That we can live around this virus rather than letting it stop society as a whole. Evolution is about adaptation. We can't just stop and stagnate. Concentrate on treatments while also working on a vaccine. Treatments are more likely to be a viable way forward than a vaccine anyway. Mitigate the symptoms and take sensible , measured precautions. If your Ill stay home. If someone you have met is ill stay home. Buy you still need to live. What we have not is not living. It's existing in fear while doing the opposite of what's recommended. There has to be an alternative to non effective social distancing rules. As I said. People work with others outside their bubbles without masks or social distancing, where is the difference between that and eating in a restaurant or bar. You can't have 1 rule for some and change the rule elsewhere and still say it works. I'm not saying go back to the way it was before we have treatments in place but we do need to move on , just be responsible doing it. Isolate and mitigate. Meet all you want but space it out and be safe. Take the time between meets. Then even if the other person hasn't taken the same care as you you are still protecting the next people you meet by taking that time to ensure your safe. Is that such a bad thing to do? It could help so many lonely people to be able to see someone face to face every 2 weeks. Just give them something to look forward to. It's so dark out there we need something to shine for"
Then why the need to use language like quivering monkeys?
Everybody is trying to get through this the best way they deem appropriate for them..
I dealt with sudden death in many forms in a professional capacity so yeah life does end but I can respect with this virus that some are more wary of the normal as it is and will be for a while yet, it doesn't make them monkeys.. |
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"Did you read the full post? We do take the health of others seriously. We isolate before and after having a meal with someone. That's more than most people would do just going the the bloody supermarket. The thought of us passing it to someone else horrifies us. If we got sick so what. It's going to happen eventually if it hasn't already. It's making the safer choices, like isolating before and after that social meeting, that's important. How many people are back at work, side by side with people outside their bubbles? Shop workers who don't have to wear masks while customers do. What the difference between that and meeting a couple for drinks and a meal? Isn't what we do safer? We stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days. Isn't that taking personal responsibility and caring for others? During that isolation we don't even go shopping. We buy online anyway and it's dropped at our back door. Drivers deliver to dozens of people a day and don't wear masks or sanitze every delivery. Yet we take our own precautions. But we want a life. Not just fear and doom. We are responsible with what we do. Just like wearing condoms is a responsible act so is isolating before and after a social. We arnt playing but we are being social with responsible conditions .
We well may all get it eventually, but if we all get it at the same time, and the hospitals get over run like we all saw on TV happening in Spain and Italy, then more people will die because of the lack of effective treatment, more Doctors and Nurses could die trying to cope with excessive workloads.
If we all get it slowly but surely, then we have a much better chance of saving far more people from an early demise.
And that's why we isolate. We just think that taking sensible precautions is better that outright fear. That we can live around this virus rather than letting it stop society as a whole. Evolution is about adaptation. We can't just stop and stagnate. Concentrate on treatments while also working on a vaccine. Treatments are more likely to be a viable way forward than a vaccine anyway. Mitigate the symptoms and take sensible , measured precautions. If your Ill stay home. If someone you have met is ill stay home. Buy you still need to live. What we have not is not living. It's existing in fear while doing the opposite of what's recommended. There has to be an alternative to non effective social distancing rules. As I said. People work with others outside their bubbles without masks or social distancing, where is the difference between that and eating in a restaurant or bar. You can't have 1 rule for some and change the rule elsewhere and still say it works. I'm not saying go back to the way it was before we have treatments in place but we do need to move on , just be responsible doing it. Isolate and mitigate. Meet all you want but space it out and be safe. Take the time between meets. Then even if the other person hasn't taken the same care as you you are still protecting the next people you meet by taking that time to ensure your safe. Is that such a bad thing to do? It could help so many lonely people to be able to see someone face to face every 2 weeks. Just give them something to look forward to. It's so dark out there we need something to shine for
Then why the need to use language like quivering monkeys?
Everybody is trying to get through this the best way they deem appropriate for them..
I dealt with sudden death in many forms in a professional capacity so yeah life does end but I can respect with this virus that some are more wary of the normal as it is and will be for a while yet, it doesn't make them monkeys.."
Apologies. That was poorly phrased and typed in the heat of the moment. Think I could have said it better that we just don't want to live scared all the time |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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"The sign of civilisation is caring for the vulnerable.
A sign of maturity is delayed gratification.
So I do what I can to stop the spread, give healthcare breathing room to treat the sick, and scientists time to find treatment and vaccine candidates.
Stay home, wank, help the NHS."
Thank you alot of common sense and integrity in your comments |
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"The sign of civilisation is caring for the vulnerable.
A sign of maturity is delayed gratification.
So I do what I can to stop the spread, give healthcare breathing room to treat the sick, and scientists time to find treatment and vaccine candidates.
Do you get a nurse to help
Stay home, wank, help the NHS.
If most people did this we would move on a lot quicker.
Prescription wanking.... There's a idea.... NHS cubicles for pleasure.. "
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey."
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"Did you read the full post? We do take the health of others seriously. We isolate before and after having a meal with someone. That's more than most people would do just going the the bloody supermarket. The thought of us passing it to someone else horrifies us. If we got sick so what. It's going to happen eventually if it hasn't already. It's making the safer choices, like isolating before and after that social meeting, that's important. How many people are back at work, side by side with people outside their bubbles? Shop workers who don't have to wear masks while customers do. What the difference between that and meeting a couple for drinks and a meal? Isn't what we do safer? We stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days. Isn't that taking personal responsibility and caring for others? During that isolation we don't even go shopping. We buy online anyway and it's dropped at our back door. Drivers deliver to dozens of people a day and don't wear masks or sanitze every delivery. Yet we take our own precautions. But we want a life. Not just fear and doom. We are responsible with what we do. Just like wearing condoms is a responsible act so is isolating before and after a social. We arnt playing but we are being social with responsible conditions .
We well may all get it eventually, but if we all get it at the same time, and the hospitals get over run like we all saw on TV happening in Spain and Italy, then more people will die because of the lack of effective treatment, more Doctors and Nurses could die trying to cope with excessive workloads.
If we all get it slowly but surely, then we have a much better chance of saving far more people from an early demise.
And that's why we isolate. We just think that taking sensible precautions is better that outright fear. That we can live around this virus rather than letting it stop society as a whole. Evolution is about adaptation. We can't just stop and stagnate. Concentrate on treatments while also working on a vaccine. Treatments are more likely to be a viable way forward than a vaccine anyway. Mitigate the symptoms and take sensible , measured precautions. If your Ill stay home. If someone you have met is ill stay home. Buy you still need to live. What we have not is not living. It's existing in fear while doing the opposite of what's recommended. There has to be an alternative to non effective social distancing rules. As I said. People work with others outside their bubbles without masks or social distancing, where is the difference between that and eating in a restaurant or bar. You can't have 1 rule for some and change the rule elsewhere and still say it works. I'm not saying go back to the way it was before we have treatments in place but we do need to move on , just be responsible doing it. Isolate and mitigate. Meet all you want but space it out and be safe. Take the time between meets. Then even if the other person hasn't taken the same care as you you are still protecting the next people you meet by taking that time to ensure your safe. Is that such a bad thing to do? It could help so many lonely people to be able to see someone face to face every 2 weeks. Just give them something to look forward to. It's so dark out there we need something to shine for
Then why the need to use language like quivering monkeys?
Everybody is trying to get through this the best way they deem appropriate for them..
I dealt with sudden death in many forms in a professional capacity so yeah life does end but I can respect with this virus that some are more wary of the normal as it is and will be for a while yet, it doesn't make them monkeys..
Apologies. That was poorly phrased and typed in the heat of the moment. Think I could have said it better that we just don't want to live scared all the time "
Respect for saying so and can relate to that quite easily..
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey."
**"...I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life..."**
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Well that's you choice if you rather live a short life.
I want to have a long life and I can tell you I'm not paranoid nor fearful as your claim.
What I do is *be careful*; the same care I take when I'm driving around town for work. Whilst driving I don't just *move on* as you've titled your thread, I take every care and follow the highway code and other safety precautions so that I don't die by road accident. Does that mean I am driving with paranoia and fear because I am following safe driving procedures? I don't think so.
So, just as I play safe while driving, the same way I play safe with this virus. In my view that's a sensible step to take. |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
**"...I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life..."**
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Well that's you choice if you rather live a short life.
I want to have a long life and I can tell you I'm not paranoid nor fearful as your claim.
What I do is *be careful*; the same care I take when I'm driving around town for work. Whilst driving I don't just *move on* as you've titled your thread, I take every care and follow the highway code and other safety precautions so that I don't die by road accident. Does that mean I am driving with paranoia and fear because I am following safe driving procedures? I don't think so.
So, just as I play safe while driving, the same way I play safe with this virus. In my view that's a sensible step to take."
We would prefer the long happy life too of course. Lol. And what we are saying is be sensible with play. Take reasonable precautions but totally shutting down is not a way forward. You take sensible precautions while driving not stop driving altogether because it involves risk. You get on with your life, being responsive and doing your best not to kill anyone. That's all we want to do. To live while being responsible. |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
**"...I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life..."**
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Well that's you choice if you rather live a short life.
I want to have a long life and I can tell you I'm not paranoid nor fearful as your claim.
What I do is *be careful*; the same care I take when I'm driving around town for work. Whilst driving I don't just *move on* as you've titled your thread, I take every care and follow the highway code and other safety precautions so that I don't die by road accident. Does that mean I am driving with paranoia and fear because I am following safe driving procedures? I don't think so.
So, just as I play safe while driving, the same way I play safe with this virus. In my view that's a sensible step to take.
We would prefer the long happy life too of course. Lol. And what we are saying is be sensible with play. Take reasonable precautions but totally shutting down is not a way forward. You take sensible precautions while driving not stop driving altogether because it involves risk. You get on with your life, being responsive and doing your best not to kill anyone. That's all we want to do. To live while being responsible. "
We are being responsible by being in social bubbles with a trusted play partner though, once we have got through this flu season things will change again, there is light shining with all the treatments for covid emerging, we just have to be strong and support the NHS and protect the vulnerable |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey."
Some of these points I (Hev) agree with. There have been suicides because people cannot cope with the Covid situation. Charlie and I do not live together, so haven't been able to meet for a long time. I miss him. I am quietly getting on with my life with my face mask on my snout. Yes we need to get on with our lives,and I think forming a little group is acceptable. Currently people who don't live alone or have kids under 18 aren't allowed to meet without socially distancing under the guidance. That situation is very mentally damaging for a vast number of people. Whilst nobody wants lots more people to die with Covid, surely we don't lots of other people to die from suicide because other people think they should just wank and get no intimacy and support? |
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Yes, I read the full post.
Every optional social activity increases risk. To yourself, to others.
We're all suffering. Some much more than others.
And I'm dreadfully sorry that some people seem to equate "protect society, all doing our bit" as being a Nazi  |
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"Grow up
Open your eyes the world isnt flat
We need take this seriously with discipline
Or you happy to sacrifice vulnerable
Give it a rest - the poster hasn't stated they're not abiding by restrictions. Or have I misread it? "
Full agree with you.
He just seems to dive into each thread with the same response.
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"I think it's quite sad that you start getting stick for post this from some quarters. It's just a point of view that should be expressed and yet the Covid Nazis start running around you whooping and hollering like Red indians at General Custers last stand.
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This made me chuckle. Sad but true though!!! |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
Some of these points I (Hev) agree with. There have been suicides because people cannot cope with the Covid situation. Charlie and I do not live together, so haven't been able to meet for a long time. I miss him. I am quietly getting on with my life with my face mask on my snout. Yes we need to get on with our lives,and I think forming a little group is acceptable. Currently people who don't live alone or have kids under 18 aren't allowed to meet without socially distancing under the guidance. That situation is very mentally damaging for a vast number of people. Whilst nobody wants lots more people to die with Covid, surely we don't lots of other people to die from suicide because other people think they should just wank and get no intimacy and support? "
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Im 27, everything in my life is still gone. My friendship groups have drifted apart. All I do is work and sleep now. I have physically worked in work thoughout as an essential worker. Im tired, Im worn out. Yes Im horny but Id love to just cuddle someone. To feel human again. Yes everyone is hurting in different ways. But to be left in a perpetual limbo for what we are being told is years is not healthy for anyone. Before anyone asks, I chose to form a bubble with family because at the time that was the best choice for me. It doesnt stop the feelings of loneliness, of emptiness, of uslessness, of that tinge of jealousy when you see a couple holding hands, that longing for connection on any level with someone. |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
Some of these points I (Hev) agree with. There have been suicides because people cannot cope with the Covid situation. Charlie and I do not live together, so haven't been able to meet for a long time. I miss him. I am quietly getting on with my life with my face mask on my snout. Yes we need to get on with our lives,and I think forming a little group is acceptable. Currently people who don't live alone or have kids under 18 aren't allowed to meet without socially distancing under the guidance. That situation is very mentally damaging for a vast number of people. Whilst nobody wants lots more people to die with Covid, surely we don't lots of other people to die from suicide because other people think they should just wank and get no intimacy and support? "
Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs.
I fully understand that everyone's circumstances are different.
We are complex society.
With complex needs.
People should understand other peoples needs and not expect everyone else to do what they do in life.
Far to many judgemental people on here I am afraid. |
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"Im 27, everything in my life is still gone. My friendship groups have drifted apart. All I do is work and sleep now. I have physically worked in work thoughout as an essential worker. Im tired, Im worn out. Yes Im horny but Id love to just cuddle someone. To feel human again. Yes everyone is hurting in different ways. But to be left in a perpetual limbo for what we are being told is years is not healthy for anyone. Before anyone asks, I chose to form a bubble with family because at the time that was the best choice for me. It doesnt stop the feelings of loneliness, of emptiness, of uslessness, of that tinge of jealousy when you see a couple holding hands, that longing for connection on any level with someone. "
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
Some of these points I (Hev) agree with. There have been suicides because people cannot cope with the Covid situation. Charlie and I do not live together, so haven't been able to meet for a long time. I miss him. I am quietly getting on with my life with my face mask on my snout. Yes we need to get on with our lives,and I think forming a little group is acceptable. Currently people who don't live alone or have kids under 18 aren't allowed to meet without socially distancing under the guidance. That situation is very mentally damaging for a vast number of people. Whilst nobody wants lots more people to die with Covid, surely we don't lots of other people to die from suicide because other people think they should just wank and get no intimacy and support?
Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs.
I fully understand that everyone's circumstances are different.
We are complex society.
With complex needs.
People should understand other peoples needs and not expect everyone else to do what they do in life.
Far to many judgemental people on here I am afraid. "
“...Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs...”
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Tell that to the person who started this thread.
They claim they can : “ stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days”
How many of us have that luxury ?
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"Im 27, everything in my life is still gone. My friendship groups have drifted apart. All I do is work and sleep now. I have physically worked in work thoughout as an essential worker. Im tired, Im worn out. Yes Im horny but Id love to just cuddle someone. To feel human again. Yes everyone is hurting in different ways. But to be left in a perpetual limbo for what we are being told is years is not healthy for anyone. Before anyone asks, I chose to form a bubble with family because at the time that was the best choice for me. It doesnt stop the feelings of loneliness, of emptiness, of uslessness, of that tinge of jealousy when you see a couple holding hands, that longing for connection on any level with someone. "
I’m in exactly the same boat. Very brave of you to open up about something so personal - thank you x  |
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"Im 27, everything in my life is still gone. My friendship groups have drifted apart. All I do is work and sleep now. I have physically worked in work thoughout as an essential worker. Im tired, Im worn out. Yes Im horny but Id love to just cuddle someone. To feel human again. Yes everyone is hurting in different ways. But to be left in a perpetual limbo for what we are being told is years is not healthy for anyone. Before anyone asks, I chose to form a bubble with family because at the time that was the best choice for me. It doesnt stop the feelings of loneliness, of emptiness, of uslessness, of that tinge of jealousy when you see a couple holding hands, that longing for connection on any level with someone. "
Well said. Im in the same boat. Its tough going. But hoping if we can reduce the spread enough... We can get something better sooner than if we just pretend it doesn't exist and we know what it's going to do to the people we care about if they catch it. |
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
Some of these points I (Hev) agree with. There have been suicides because people cannot cope with the Covid situation. Charlie and I do not live together, so haven't been able to meet for a long time. I miss him. I am quietly getting on with my life with my face mask on my snout. Yes we need to get on with our lives,and I think forming a little group is acceptable. Currently people who don't live alone or have kids under 18 aren't allowed to meet without socially distancing under the guidance. That situation is very mentally damaging for a vast number of people. Whilst nobody wants lots more people to die with Covid, surely we don't lots of other people to die from suicide because other people think they should just wank and get no intimacy and support?
Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs.
I fully understand that everyone's circumstances are different.
We are complex society.
With complex needs.
People should understand other peoples needs and not expect everyone else to do what they do in life.
Far to many judgemental people on here I am afraid.
“...Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs...”
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Tell that to the person who started this thread.
They claim they can : “ stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days”
How many of us have that luxury ?
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Exactly like I said everyone has their own reality.
So what should I tell him ? |
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"Yes, I read the full post.
Every optional social activity increases risk. To yourself, to others.
We're all suffering. Some much more than others.
And I'm dreadfully sorry that some people seem to equate "protect society, all doing our bit" as being a Nazi "
“.... Every optional social activity increases risk. To yourself, to others...”
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"We are social animals. It's the way we evolved. Viruses have always taken advantage of this and we have evolved to survive them. This virus isn't going away. We do have the mental capacity to mitigate the risks but biology will out. Saying no to meets is a matter of personal choice and personal risk assessment.
Young people will still need to meet socially to be able to fall in love, get married, raise children and continue the species. Would you suggest that mankind stops procreating until there is a vaccine?would you wrap future generations in sterile bubbles? Genetically screen those who are allowed to breed? We are already in a nanny state where children are sanitised and environments scrubbed clean of the things we need to encounter to develop resistances to. Kids can't learn risk anymore. They don't play in sandpits , run around in the rain or play in the dirt like they should. We wonder why kids have an increase in allergies and sicknesses. We need to face viruses and evolve to tolerate them . It dose take a few generations but if we don't what's left? How can you build a social bubble if you didn't already have one? How can you combat loneliness if you didn't already have a bubble. Talking in forums is fine for a while but we need human contact for mental health. Loneliness is a killer more than covid ever will be. Some of us are luck to have partners or spouses but what about those that don't. Should we stigmatise people for wanting to connect with someone and share experiences? Make your own choices and don't judge those who think differently to you. Life will go on. We just need to stop being afraid to live it. The simple fact about covid is that you will get it. At some point everyone will get it. Some will die and that's horrible. But more will live and pass that squires resistance to future generations. I would rather live a short happy life than a long, paranoid, fearful life. The thought of making someone else sick is more concerning to us than us being sick. If we meet socially we isolate both before and after the meeting. We have only ever played in a first meet once and won't again. Connecting is more important than sex but we need that face to face. We are the social animal and we will survive but not as a scared , cowering monkey.
Some of these points I (Hev) agree with. There have been suicides because people cannot cope with the Covid situation. Charlie and I do not live together, so haven't been able to meet for a long time. I miss him. I am quietly getting on with my life with my face mask on my snout. Yes we need to get on with our lives,and I think forming a little group is acceptable. Currently people who don't live alone or have kids under 18 aren't allowed to meet without socially distancing under the guidance. That situation is very mentally damaging for a vast number of people. Whilst nobody wants lots more people to die with Covid, surely we don't lots of other people to die from suicide because other people think they should just wank and get no intimacy and support?
Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs.
I fully understand that everyone's circumstances are different.
We are complex society.
With complex needs.
People should understand other peoples needs and not expect everyone else to do what they do in life.
Far to many judgemental people on here I am afraid.
“...Some people have their own reality and think everyone else's reality is the same as theirs...”
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Tell that to the person who started this thread.
They claim they can : “ stay home for 14 days, go out for a few hours and then stay home for 14 days”
How many of us have that luxury ?
Exactly like I said everyone has their own reality.
So what should I tell him ?"
“... So what should I tell him ?...”
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Tell him exactly what you’ve said: that everyone has their own reality.
And please add that: not everyone has the luxury of staying home for 14 days after they’ve been out for only a few hours. |
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I struggled to follow all of that op. We aren't ab invincible species, so should use our talents to safeguard our health and well-being. Viruses may already exist that could be our extinction cause, though we've not had contact with it yet.
Temporary strategies are in place to limit the damage that it can cause. The WHO and New World Order government have not imposed a global ban on any sexual aspects of life. There's no need to panic.
Assess and act as you personally see fit. |
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