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"It's probably because of the chin wearing nob eds and those who think there above the law that's why we're in shit state were in" Or possibly the increased face touching of those wearing a face covering prior to touching other things. | |||
"It's probably because of the chin wearing nob eds and those who think there above the law that's why we're in shit state were in Or possibly the increased face touching of those wearing a face covering prior to touching other things. "  | |||
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"And a friend of mine his cousin came off holiday from Greece and was to suppose to isolate for 2 weeks but was out on the lash with her mates next day! Covid idiot still no mask thick as shit springs to mind!" did you report him ? If not your condoning his actions | |||
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"I've been saying this for months, if someone does have it, and is going round the shops, mask on off 50 times, which does actually happen, no one puts a mask on and leaves it for hours on end, covid will be all over the hands and everything they touch. Can't go against the media mask propaganda though. " This is true and I take mine off myself in-between shops. But I sanitise my hands in every shop, either with the shop provided stuff or my own in my pocket. I think cases always were going to rise again once we started getting out and mixing more. | |||
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"And finally a covering is not PPE. it's represents your submission oh and it's to keep you quiet ..... " It wasn't true on the last post you put this ridiculous statement on and it's not true on this one. It represents nothing other than someone's ability to think about others safety as well as their own. It is not a form of "submission" nor does it infringe any right that people have. Absolutely no one is saying they are perfect, but they are an utterly trivial thing to wear that helps in a small way to reduce the spread of a potentially deadly virus. | |||
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"And finally a covering is not PPE. it's represents your submission oh and it's to keep you quiet ..... " Absolute rubbish. | |||
"And finally a covering is not PPE. it's represents your submission oh and it's to keep you quiet ..... " If you can't talk through a mask and a piece of cloth can force your submission, I don't think it's the fault of the mask  | |||
"Cases have risen because we're testing more and opening society back up. I abide by the 'rules' but can't help but think lockdown has done nothing re the virus other than delay it's natural pathway. Yes, I know, it's saved vulnerable lives, in the short term at least but the same people remain vulnerable so what's next? Please, not the vaccine were nowhere near that point so, what's next? Back into lockdown delaying tactics, again? What does that solve in the long term? I know there's an unknown virus, I'm aware of taking precautions and that there are some wild conspiricy theories out there but, it also concerns me to see people turning on each other and blindly swallowing every scrap thrown out by this 'government'. Protect yourselves and each other but don't stop questioning and asking for rationales that's all. "  | |||
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"Is it strange that cases seem to have risen since compulsory mask wearing was introduced? Just a genuine observation. " Pure co-incidence. Cases have risen due to peeps not keeping their distant when out in public. | |||
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"Hand rails on the tube escalators worry me" Hand rails and air con units bother me | |||
"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard." You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall. | |||
"Cases have risen because we're testing more and opening society back up. I abide by the 'rules' but can't help but think lockdown has done nothing re the virus other than delay it's natural pathway. Yes, I know, it's saved vulnerable lives, in the short term at least but the same people remain vulnerable so what's next? Please, not the vaccine were nowhere near that point so, what's next? Back into lockdown delaying tactics, again? What does that solve in the long term? I know there's an unknown virus, I'm aware of taking precautions and that there are some wild conspiricy theories out there but, it also concerns me to see people turning on each other and blindly swallowing every scrap thrown out by this 'government'. Protect yourselves and each other but don't stop questioning and asking for rationales that's all. " Whilst we had lockdown we prevented even more NHS staff from becoming inflected and deaths - we didn't just pause some inevitable death for a short while for a vulnerable part of society. All of the health and care staff who died would likely have had full, productive lives ahead of them. Lockdown restricted many more of them from getting infected, via a health service that would have been in total crisis for months, without any form of lockdown. It's also allowed us to gain the benefit of the global research underway. We have new treatments saving lives now and other research is underway. People are also better able to plan, when they have sufficient time and it's not pandemonium. Families could relocate elders to alternative homes etc. There absolutely was not zero benefit from lockdown other than pausing before the same deaths would happen. Several months of additional healthy life are extremely valuable - if you had the choice with yours, you'd probably feel it was priceless to continue a healthy, happy life, given the choice. That wasn't exactly the case though. We'd not resourced ourselves, we had insufficient PPE etc. And vaccines are an opportunity. When we start looking we don't set a defeatist attitude, assuming it's pointless, as we really do not know at that point. Hundreds of them are in development, some closer to testing being completed than others. This virus is likely to be with us for a long time, so more potential treatment options is a better thing for humanity. People that some may have written off as just fodder for the virus eventually may be perfectly safe, as we've bought ourselves some time and may honour them, by affording them the respect and care that they fully deserve. As we're on earth for such a short life, let's not cut them short for others, where minimal investment and sacrifice by us all, can give them that freedom to just live | |||
"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall." You have zero evidence that infections have not been acquired in pubs during this time. | |||
"Masks not stopping the spread it appears" That's a non sequitor, just like saying lockdown didn't stop people getting infections and deaths Tom  | |||
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"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. " People touch their faces constantly, mask or not mask. It's not a reason not to wear masks. | |||
"And a friend of mine his cousin came off holiday from Greece and was to suppose to isolate for 2 weeks but was out on the lash with her mates next day! Covid idiot still no mask thick as shit springs to mind!did you report him ? If not your condoning his actions " Didn't know I was on trial ? I didn't brake the law | |||
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"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall. You have zero evidence that infections have not been acquired in pubs during this time. " So how do you explain the fact that in the two months they have been open there has not been the slightest pause in the downward trend in the death rate? | |||
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"If so called masks work, then strange how mask crazed governed counties Spain, Italy and France shouldn't really be having bigger experiential covid cases than us, That's real evidence, not what these puppets and propaganda media say on telly, folks have been totally rolled and brainwashed about masks, There isn't any actual test and tabulated data results on masks... " Lol, still in denial I've posted details of SEVERAL mask studies if you could read you"d know, in fact I'm convinced you realise your sprouting absolute crap just for the sake of it now. Either that or ... Well..... | |||
"Death rate is flatlining, and the average actually is lower than this time last year. There's no such thing as a utopian world where no one actually dies. " Well done for stating a fact that is spectacularly unrelated to whether we should take action to save people or just leave them to die in the street. | |||
"Death rate is flatlining, and the average actually is lower than this time last year. There's no such thing as a utopian world where no one actually dies. " Indeed not. But there are these things called civilisation and technology which we combine with basic human decency, to prevent suffering. Because death isn't the only bad outcome. Some people are suffering seriously months after infection. And those who haven't been out of their houses for six plus months, because they're extremely high risk, would like to leave the house again. Maybe once. But some people here insist on keeping them locked down because of their selfishness. | |||
"Death rate is flatlining, and the average actually is lower than this time last year. There's no such thing as a utopian world where no one actually dies. Well done for stating a fact that is spectacularly unrelated to whether we should take action to save people or just leave them to die in the street. " Medicine. It's a thing. Who knew? | |||
"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. " i'm willing to bet that a large majority of these masks will never see a washing machine. All the shyte from pockets containing cash, phones, snot rags and lipstick etc....think of the germs everyone will breathe in during the flu season this winter. It might even cause a second spike!  | |||
"Is it strange that cases seem to have risen since compulsory mask wearing was introduced? Just a genuine observation. " No, as early as March this year people have been looking with fear at the start of autumn as the obvious danger point for a huge rise in cases. There’s many factors driving spread and masks will be having an affect on reducing that, the question remains will it be enough when combined with other measures. Currently it seems it isn’t. | |||
"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. i'm willing to bet that a large majority of these masks will never see a washing machine. All the shyte from pockets containing cash, phones, snot rags and lipstick etc....think of the germs everyone will breathe in during the flu season this winter. It might even cause a second spike! "I would hope that everyone over 11 knows that clothing needs to be washed. If not, we have some incredible educational deficits in this country. | |||
"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. i'm willing to bet that a large majority of these masks will never see a washing machine. All the shyte from pockets containing cash, phones, snot rags and lipstick etc....think of the germs everyone will breathe in during the flu season this winter. It might even cause a second spike! "And all the extra litter it is creating and what about all the space it must be filling up in landfill ? The self righteous eco warriors that go protesting about plastic waste and then insist we wear these wretched things. I actually find them quite revolting and repulsive when I see them lying discarded in the street, but think fuck it, I'm not picking it up. I hope to goodness this madness ends soon but suspect it wont. | |||
"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. i'm willing to bet that a large majority of these masks will never see a washing machine. All the shyte from pockets containing cash, phones, snot rags and lipstick etc....think of the germs everyone will breathe in during the flu season this winter. It might even cause a second spike!
And all the extra litter it is creating and what about all the space it must be filling up in landfill ? The self righteous eco warriors that go protesting about plastic waste and then insist we wear these wretched things.
I actually find them quite revolting and repulsive when I see them lying discarded in the street, but think fuck it, I'm not picking it up.
I hope to goodness this madness ends soon but suspect it wont."... Do you know that reusable masks exist? And that people don't have to litter? | |||
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"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China" Does mummy make you eat your vegetables in China? | |||
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"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. i'm willing to bet that a large majority of these masks will never see a washing machine. All the shyte from pockets containing cash, phones, snot rags and lipstick etc....think of the germs everyone will breathe in during the flu season this winter. It might even cause a second spike!
And all the extra litter it is creating and what about all the space it must be filling up in landfill ? The self righteous eco warriors that go protesting about plastic waste and then insist we wear these wretched things.
I actually find them quite revolting and repulsive when I see them lying discarded in the street, but think fuck it, I'm not picking it up.
I hope to goodness this madness ends soon but suspect it wont.
... Do you know that reusable masks exist? And that people don't have to litter?"Try telling that to the slob family. | |||
"It actually started to rocket just after masks, folks touch the mask all the time, on, off on, off then spread by hand on rails tables and handles. If they happen to have it. I witness this every day on the train. i'm willing to bet that a large majority of these masks will never see a washing machine. All the shyte from pockets containing cash, phones, snot rags and lipstick etc....think of the germs everyone will breathe in during the flu season this winter. It might even cause a second spike!
And all the extra litter it is creating and what about all the space it must be filling up in landfill ? The self righteous eco warriors that go protesting about plastic waste and then insist we wear these wretched things.
I actually find them quite revolting and repulsive when I see them lying discarded in the street, but think fuck it, I'm not picking it up.
I hope to goodness this madness ends soon but suspect it wont.
... Do you know that reusable masks exist? And that people don't have to litter?
Try telling that to the slob family."So we shouldn't contain our germs because some people are inconsiderate and revolting? | |||
"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall. You have zero evidence that infections have not been acquired in pubs during this time. So how do you explain the fact that in the two months they have been open there has not been the slightest pause in the downward trend in the death rate?" That's not evidence that people have not been catching the infection via pubs | |||
"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China" It's quite funny seeing adult babies stomp their feet at being asked to take a really basic precaution for public health. | |||
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"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China It's quite funny seeing adult babies stomp their feet at being asked to take a really basic precaution for public health. " Waaaah waaah I have to put cloth on my face. Mummy it isn't fair. It's funny and terrifying. | |||
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"Hand rails on the tube escalators worry me Hand rails and air con units bother me " We've been getting the bus into town quite alot recently, at Brighton station the bus cleaners come in and wipe the rails etc, with what appears to be the same cloth from the bus before, they don't spray the cloth either during their thirty second "clean" either. Don't get me wrong it's good they are doing "something" and probably jobs have been created for it but looking at the way it's done makes my blood boil and yes, I have reported it. Danish x | |||
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"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China" It tends to be massively capitalist places like Japan and South Korea where mask wearing is most prevalent. I wonder how well Japan and South Korea have done with managing Covid? | |||
"So we have one side claiming its like being in communist China and the other side saying it's akin to world war two. "In the "we're all in this together and we all need to do our bit to help our community" way. I first had the thought in late March when I took a loaf of bread to a little old lady I know. It's almost nothing. Like putting cloth on my face is almost nothing. But she struggled to get groceries and it was a thing I could do. | |||
"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China It tends to be massively capitalist places like Japan and South Korea where mask wearing is most prevalent. I wonder how well Japan and South Korea have done with managing Covid?" I'm not sure we can put their apparent success down to mask wearing.In fact Japan is an interesting one because they didn't do the whole lockdown thing as opposed to South Korea who did. | |||
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"I've been saying this for months, if someone does have it, and is going round the shops, mask on off 50 times, which does actually happen, no one puts a mask on and leaves it for hours on end, covid will be all over the hands and everything they touch. Can't go against the media mask propaganda though. " Its compulsory in spain to wear one at all times outside and their numbers are going through the roof so probably not the reason you quoted. | |||
"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China It tends to be massively capitalist places like Japan and South Korea where mask wearing is most prevalent. I wonder how well Japan and South Korea have done with managing Covid?" . The far East has had a cultural habit of mass mask wearing for decades, it's got very little to do with sars-cov2. | |||
"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China It tends to be massively capitalist places like Japan and South Korea where mask wearing is most prevalent. I wonder how well Japan and South Korea have done with managing Covid?. The far East has had a cultural habit of mass mask wearing for decades, it's got very little to do with sars-cov2." Really rose further, what they consider a respectful way of protecting each other's health (imagine that) during SARS (a virus very genetically similar to SARS-COVID-2). I wonder why  | |||
"I'll keep listening to academic scientists and protecting my community rather than the profound truthiness of the dehumanising communist imposition of containing my germs and the repressive starvation of not meeting strangers for sex "and isn't it great that you can live your life the way you want to?!.....hats off to you! | |||
"Folks will believe what they believe about masks,have chosen a side and that's that, it's heartening to see though as you look around in general. Folks haven't been sold and have totally rejected the attempt by some to try and make the 'new normal'streets of the UK look like a carbon copy of communist China It tends to be massively capitalist places like Japan and South Korea where mask wearing is most prevalent. I wonder how well Japan and South Korea have done with managing Covid?. The far East has had a cultural habit of mass mask wearing for decades, it's got very little to do with sars-cov2. Really rose further, what they consider a respectful way of protecting each other's health (imagine that) during SARS (a virus very genetically similar to SARS-COVID-2). I wonder why ". That's not my experience, I worked in the far East in the 90s and mask wearing was prevalent then, didn't stop them getting many flu outbreaks, swine flu, SARS, mers etc etc, it's a cultural thing on many levels, if they were that concerned about they're community I reckon they would be better off giving up eating live frogs and bats | |||
"I'll keep listening to academic scientists and protecting my community rather than the profound truthiness of the dehumanising communist imposition of containing my germs and the repressive starvation of not meeting strangers for sex
and isn't it great that you can live your life the way you want to?!.....hats off to you!"It is! Particularly the bits (infrastructure, communal resources, public health) that require input from everybody involved. I love not having smallpox or measles. I suspect you do too. Hooray for communities coming together to protect ourselves and each other. We all depend on it. | |||
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"I'll keep listening to academic scientists and protecting my community rather than the profound truthiness of the dehumanising communist imposition of containing my germs and the repressive starvation of not meeting strangers for sex
and isn't it great that you can live your life the way you want to?!.....hats off to you!
It is! Particularly the bits (infrastructure, communal resources, public health) that require input from everybody involved.
I love not having smallpox or measles. I suspect you do too. Hooray for communities coming together to protect ourselves and each other. We all depend on it.". I've had measles when I was a child, wasn't pleasant but at least I'm now immune | |||
"I'll keep listening to academic scientists and protecting my community rather than the profound truthiness of the dehumanising communist imposition of containing my germs and the repressive starvation of not meeting strangers for sex
and isn't it great that you can live your life the way you want to?!.....hats off to you!
It is! Particularly the bits (infrastructure, communal resources, public health) that require input from everybody involved.
I love not having smallpox or measles. I suspect you do too. Hooray for communities coming together to protect ourselves and each other. We all depend on it..
I've had measles when I was a child, wasn't pleasant but at least I'm now immune "I'm probably immune because I had my vaccinations. If I'm not immune I'm protected by those around me with immunity. And I didn't risk encephalitis, I just had pain in my arm. | |||
"I'll keep listening to academic scientists and protecting my community rather than the profound truthiness of the dehumanising communist imposition of containing my germs and the repressive starvation of not meeting strangers for sex
and isn't it great that you can live your life the way you want to?!.....hats off to you!
It is! Particularly the bits (infrastructure, communal resources, public health) that require input from everybody involved.
I love not having smallpox or measles. I suspect you do too. Hooray for communities coming together to protect ourselves and each other. We all depend on it..
I've had measles when I was a child, wasn't pleasant but at least I'm now immune
I'm probably immune because I had my vaccinations. If I'm not immune I'm protected by those around me with immunity. And I didn't risk encephalitis, I just had pain in my arm.". Don't worry, I risked it so you didn't have to  | |||
"So we have one side claiming its like being in communist China and the other side saying it's akin to world war two. "Yes I can easily see how being asked and expected to look after your fellow man by taking a few very simple hygiene precautions can be confused for, on the one hand.... Nazi Germany and also in the same breath communist china. How does it go? Wake up muzzle heads... | |||
"So we have one side claiming its like being in communist China and the other side saying it's akin to world war two.
Yes I can easily see how being asked and expected to look after your fellow man by taking a few very simple hygiene precautions can be confused for, on the one hand.... Nazi Germany and also in the same breath communist china. How does it go? Wake up muzzle heads... "I've met some people who worked behind the scenes during WW2. Office jobs, women's work. Half forgotten. They're proud they played their tiny part in helping the war effort. We're not even being conscripted. We're just being asked to take simple measures to keep our germs to ourselves. A bit of restraint. No sugar rationing. | |||
"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK." not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week | |||
"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK. not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week "Do you know that science changes and evidence develops, even when it doesn't suit your agenda? | |||
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"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine." . What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit.  | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine.. What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit. "Yes, it's absolutely hilarious that you wilfully misread what I said. The depression, isolation, risk because they can't get care, deterioration of other health conditions, etc, is fucking hilarious. Ha. Ha. Ha. | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine." weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine.. What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit.
Yes, it's absolutely hilarious that you wilfully misread what I said.
The depression, isolation, risk because they can't get care, deterioration of other health conditions, etc, is fucking hilarious. Ha. Ha. Ha.". Your aware that 40% of the population harbor meningitis bacteria, MRSA, your probably harbouring five viruses at any given time!. All these are killers to some individuals at various times, I suggest you never kiss anybody ever again until you've been checked for streptococcus .
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"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed "Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society? | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine.. What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit.
Yes, it's absolutely hilarious that you wilfully misread what I said.
The depression, isolation, risk because they can't get care, deterioration of other health conditions, etc, is fucking hilarious. Ha. Ha. Ha..
Your aware that 40% of the population harbor meningitis bacteria, MRSA, your probably harbouring five viruses at any given time!.
All these are killers to some individuals at various times, I suggest you never kiss anybody ever again until you've been checked for streptococcus .
"I'm also aware that viruses are part of foetal development. Doesn't change the fact that for *this* virus, some are particularly vulnerable. And "would like to step outside their front doors without risking a hideous death" meets "I wanna have a gangbang I don't understand evidence this is fascist communism fuck you". I stand with my community protecting as many people as I can. I hope if you're ever vulnerable, your community are more like me than they are like you. | |||
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"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine.. What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit.
Yes, it's absolutely hilarious that you wilfully misread what I said.
The depression, isolation, risk because they can't get care, deterioration of other health conditions, etc, is fucking hilarious. Ha. Ha. Ha..
Your aware that 40% of the population harbor meningitis bacteria, MRSA, your probably harbouring five viruses at any given time!.
All these are killers to some individuals at various times, I suggest you never kiss anybody ever again until you've been checked for streptococcus .
I stand with my community". I hope there's less than six of you? | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine.. What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit.
Yes, it's absolutely hilarious that you wilfully misread what I said.
The depression, isolation, risk because they can't get care, deterioration of other health conditions, etc, is fucking hilarious. Ha. Ha. Ha..
Your aware that 40% of the population harbor meningitis bacteria, MRSA, your probably harbouring five viruses at any given time!.
All these are killers to some individuals at various times, I suggest you never kiss anybody ever again until you've been checked for streptococcus .
I stand with my community.
I hope there's less than six of you?
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"It's not a mask, it's a muzzle depriving you of oxygen and making you more compliment. " Just to point out a muzzle does not and never has deprived an animal of oxygen | |||
"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall."
Why is it that people can't see that the rate of known infections is irrelevant. It is so obvious that an increased number of tests will reveal more infections. The underlying death rate is the one that counts. | |||
"Cases have risen since the pubs reopened and schools went back. The masks are largely irrelevant other than as a reminder that we’re supposed to distance. Cases are rising rapidly yet folk are still talking about lifting restrictions further. It’s crazy. " Seems like a no brainer to me too. Masks do a tiny amount (probably). | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine.. What all germs and viruses! I suggest you never go out or ever meet anybody ever again then unless your wearing a space suit.
Yes, it's absolutely hilarious that you wilfully misread what I said.
The depression, isolation, risk because they can't get care, deterioration of other health conditions, etc, is fucking hilarious. Ha. Ha. Ha..
Your aware that 40% of the population harbor meningitis bacteria, MRSA, your probably harbouring five viruses at any given time!.
All these are killers to some individuals at various times, I suggest you never kiss anybody ever again until you've been checked for streptococcus .
I stand with my community.
I hope there's less than six of you?
Over here in civilisation, we have this thing called a telephone ". It's posher oop North than I'd been lead to believe, next you'll be telling me you've done away with gaslighting | |||
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"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall.
Why is it that people can't see that the rate of known infections is irrelevant. It is so obvious that an increased number of tests will reveal more infections. The underlying death rate is the one that counts."Yes the number of tests have increased however so has the test positivity percentagein the last couple of weeks. It has increased from 0.6% to 1.3%. Still well within the W.H.O guidlines but a rise anyway. | |||
"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall.
Why is it that people can't see that the rate of known infections is irrelevant. It is so obvious that an increased number of tests will reveal more infections. The underlying death rate is the one that counts."Rise in rates. Rise in positive percentage indicates a growing problem (within guidelines, as noted) regardless of whether there are 100 tests or a million. | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed
Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society?"Shield the old! Protect the vulnerable! Keep those with potentially life threatening conditions out of harm's way!....as for the healthy? Get on with your lives....that's how it has always been. | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed
Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society?
Shield the old! Protect the vulnerable! Keep those with potentially life threatening conditions out of harm's way!....as for the healthy? Get on with your lives....that's how it has always been. "So the vulnerable are prisoners because you want to have fun? Maybe the vulnerable would like to have lives too. Get medical care. | |||
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"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed
Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society?
Shield the old! Protect the vulnerable! Keep those with potentially life threatening conditions out of harm's way!....as for the healthy? Get on with your lives....that's how it has always been.
So the vulnerable are prisoners because you want to have fun?
Maybe the vulnerable would like to have lives too. Get medical care."nobody is stopping anyone from leaving their homes (notwitstanding covid rules worldwide).....a tiny tiny minority who are unfortunate enough to be sick from an underlying medical condition may have problems. It's a pity about that and nobody likes that situation....however the massively vast majority of people will not experience much more than a sore throat, cough, temperature etc....even those numbers are small. So to answer your point....lift the restrictions, ditch the mask for normal day to day life, let people be free and prosper as best they can....live your life and be free!! Thay goes for everyone....not selfish or goose-steppy at all | |||
"Enough already with the 'selfish grandma serial killer' line, flu, influenza, cancer and a host of other stuff is killing more than covid, " And now those protecting themselves can't get adequate care for their influenza (which is the same as flu), cancer, mobility issues, and host of other stuff because of the strain caused by Covid. And their depression at being isolated is getting worse. You're giving granny (and others who are vulnerable, not just the old) the choice between suffering alone and risking death because you can't control yourselves during a crisis. Yes, that's selfish. | |||
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"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall.
Why is it that people can't see that the rate of known infections is irrelevant. It is so obvious that an increased number of tests will reveal more infections. The underlying death rate is the one that counts."No, it isn't. It has already been answered multiple times here. Covid is not about you die or you get better. You can also have long-term recoveries and life changing permanent damage. | |||
"Some people will die and some won't.. End of. Now let's just get back to fucking! " Another spectacularly selfish attitude.  | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed
Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society?
Shield the old! Protect the vulnerable! Keep those with potentially life threatening conditions out of harm's way!....as for the healthy? Get on with your lives....that's how it has always been. ". | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed
Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society?
Shield the old! Protect the vulnerable! Keep those with potentially life threatening conditions out of harm's way!....as for the healthy? Get on with your lives....that's how it has always been.
So the vulnerable are prisoners because you want to have fun?
Maybe the vulnerable would like to have lives too. Get medical care.
nobody is stopping anyone from leaving their homes (notwitstanding covid rules worldwide).....a tiny tiny minority who are unfortunate enough to be sick from an underlying medical condition may have problems. It's a pity about that and nobody likes that situation....however the massively vast majority of people will not experience much more than a sore throat, cough, temperature etc....even those numbers are small. So to answer your point....lift the restrictions, ditch the mask for normal day to day life, let people be free and prosper as best they can....live your life and be free!! Thay goes for everyone....not selfish or goose-steppy at all "A global pandemic and your answer is "live your life and be free". Pretty much sums up the dictionary definition of selfish. | |||
"And for the love of God. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about other people. I'm keeping myself healthy. I'm also keeping my germs to myself. Plus I'm part of a support system for those who are prisoners in their own homes right now because if they catch this they won't be fine. weelease woger!! Don't be a prisoner in your own home or behind 20 sq inches of germ soaked cloth....breathe in god's good air! Have a party with 7people! Do what makes you happy! When you're on your deathbed (hopefully many many decades from now) you won't be saying 'i wish i had worn my mask more, stayed 2 yards away from more people, partied less, locked myself up at home more and thank you for looking after me government'.... bring out your dead!!!
oh and the science IS settled.....except when an agenda change is needed
Umm. So there aren't people who are high risk? None? It's just a sniffle for everyone? Absolutely everyone? No vulnerable or old people in society?
Shield the old! Protect the vulnerable! Keep those with potentially life threatening conditions out of harm's way!....as for the healthy? Get on with your lives....that's how it has always been.
So the vulnerable are prisoners because you want to have fun?
Maybe the vulnerable would like to have lives too. Get medical care.
nobody is stopping anyone from leaving their homes (notwitstanding covid rules worldwide).....a tiny tiny minority who are unfortunate enough to be sick from an underlying medical condition may have problems. It's a pity about that and nobody likes that situation....however the massively vast majority of people will not experience much more than a sore throat, cough, temperature etc....even those numbers are small. So to answer your point....lift the restrictions, ditch the mask for normal day to day life, let people be free and prosper as best they can....live your life and be free!! Thay goes for everyone....not selfish or goose-steppy at all
A global pandemic and your answer is "live your life and be free". Pretty much sums up the dictionary definition of selfish. ". You don't need to put global in front of pandemic it's the dictionary definition of a global epidemic | |||
"Cases have risen because we're testing more and opening society back up. I abide by the 'rules' but can't help but think lockdown has done nothing re the virus other than delay it's natural pathway. Yes, I know, it's saved vulnerable lives, in the short term at least but the same people remain vulnerable so what's next? Please, not the vaccine were nowhere near that point so, what's next? Back into lockdown delaying tactics, again? What does that solve in the long term? I know there's an unknown virus, I'm aware of taking precautions and that there are some wild conspiricy theories out there but, it also concerns me to see people turning on each other and blindly swallowing every scrap thrown out by this 'government'. Protect yourselves and each other but don't stop questioning and asking for rationales that's all. Whilst we had lockdown we prevented even more NHS staff from becoming inflected and deaths - we didn't just pause some inevitable death for a short while for a vulnerable part of society. All of the health and care staff who died would likely have had full, productive lives ahead of them. Lockdown restricted many more of them from getting infected, via a health service that would have been in total crisis for months, without any form of lockdown. It's also allowed us to gain the benefit of the global research underway. We have new treatments saving lives now and other research is underway. People are also better able to plan, when they have sufficient time and it's not pandemonium. Families could relocate elders to alternative homes etc. There absolutely was not zero benefit from lockdown other than pausing before the same deaths would happen. Several months of additional healthy life are extremely valuable - if you had the choice with yours, you'd probably feel it was priceless to continue a healthy, happy life, given the choice. That wasn't exactly the case though. We'd not resourced ourselves, we had insufficient PPE etc. And vaccines are an opportunity. When we start looking we don't set a defeatist attitude, assuming it's pointless, as we really do not know at that point. Hundreds of them are in development, some closer to testing being completed than others. This virus is likely to be with us for a long time, so more potential treatment options is a better thing for humanity. People that some may have written off as just fodder for the virus eventually may be perfectly safe, as we've bought ourselves some time and may honour them, by affording them the respect and care that they fully deserve. As we're on earth for such a short life, let's not cut them short for others, where minimal investment and sacrifice by us all, can give them that freedom to just live" Yes, I get all that but.... Are we actually that much further on than we were? I am not, and would nit considering anyone's life as fodder? Simply saying that we still need to question and not follow blindly but anyone who edge's away from the whole regime is seen as a conspiracy nut. I am one of the nhs staff and completely got the delay till we got prepped but what now? Continued delays till this all powerful vaccine appears? | |||
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"Freedom for everyone is now selfish eh? I would've thought freedom for hardly anyone apart from the people who lay down the law who seem to do what they like (cummings, ferguson, pelosi and several other officials around the world) is selfish or tyranical. " | |||
"Freedom for everyone is now selfish eh? I would've thought freedom for hardly anyone apart from the people who lay down the law who seem to do what they like (cummings, ferguson, pelosi and several other officials around the world) is selfish or tyranical. " Freedom for yourself at the expense of others is not freedom, it's narcissism. You refusing to do anything other than what you want to denies others the chance to do things. | |||
"Cases have risen because we're testing more and opening society back up. I abide by the 'rules' but can't help but think lockdown has done nothing re the virus other than delay it's natural pathway. Yes, I know, it's saved vulnerable lives, in the short term at least but the same people remain vulnerable so what's next? Please, not the vaccine were nowhere near that point so, what's next? Back into lockdown delaying tactics, again? What does that solve in the long term? I know there's an unknown virus, I'm aware of taking precautions and that there are some wild conspiricy theories out there but, it also concerns me to see people turning on each other and blindly swallowing every scrap thrown out by this 'government'. Protect yourselves and each other but don't stop questioning and asking for rationales that's all. Whilst we had lockdown we prevented even more NHS staff from becoming inflected and deaths - we didn't just pause some inevitable death for a short while for a vulnerable part of society. All of the health and care staff who died would likely have had full, productive lives ahead of them. Lockdown restricted many more of them from getting infected, via a health service that would have been in total crisis for months, without any form of lockdown. It's also allowed us to gain the benefit of the global research underway. We have new treatments saving lives now and other research is underway. People are also better able to plan, when they have sufficient time and it's not pandemonium. Families could relocate elders to alternative homes etc. There absolutely was not zero benefit from lockdown other than pausing before the same deaths would happen. Several months of additional healthy life are extremely valuable - if you had the choice with yours, you'd probably feel it was priceless to continue a healthy, happy life, given the choice. That wasn't exactly the case though. We'd not resourced ourselves, we had insufficient PPE etc. And vaccines are an opportunity. When we start looking we don't set a defeatist attitude, assuming it's pointless, as we really do not know at that point. Hundreds of them are in development, some closer to testing being completed than others. This virus is likely to be with us for a long time, so more potential treatment options is a better thing for humanity. People that some may have written off as just fodder for the virus eventually may be perfectly safe, as we've bought ourselves some time and may honour them, by affording them the respect and care that they fully deserve. As we're on earth for such a short life, let's not cut them short for others, where minimal investment and sacrifice by us all, can give them that freedom to just live Yes, I get all that but.... Are we actually that much further on than we were? I am not, and would nit considering anyone's life as fodder? Simply saying that we still need to question and not follow blindly but anyone who edge's away from the whole regime is seen as a conspiracy nut. I am one of the nhs staff and completely got the delay till we got prepped but what now? Continued delays till this all powerful vaccine appears? " . So what do we know so far. It's around 2-3 times deadlier than influenza but in the non deadly margins effects less people than influenza. It's about as infectious as influenza. The average age of Corona death is 82 with 2.7 underlying comorbidities. It's a Corona virus family member so probably will mutate like the rest and reinfection down the line is likely so any vaccines will need to be remade and redistributed constantly. It's now endemic and even 100% vaccination will likely take decades and decades to get rid of it if ever. How long can the world keep pumping resources into it without an effective economy to pay for it?, personally I reckon we've got 18 months before the inevitable economic collapse. Being honest there's no magic remedy and no miracle cure, some of us aren't getting out of this particular predicament. | |||
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"Freedom for everyone is now selfish eh? I would've thought freedom for hardly anyone apart from the people who lay down the law who seem to do what they like (cummings, ferguson, pelosi and several other officials around the world) is selfish or tyranical. Freedom for yourself at the expense of others is not freedom, it's narcissism. You refusing to do anything other than what you want to denies others the chance to do things." wanting freedom for everyone is narcissism? I don't want it for just myself....i want EVERYONE to be free | |||
"Freedom for everyone is now selfish eh? I would've thought freedom for hardly anyone apart from the people who lay down the law who seem to do what they like (cummings, ferguson, pelosi and several other officials around the world) is selfish or tyranical. Freedom for yourself at the expense of others is not freedom, it's narcissism. You refusing to do anything other than what you want to denies others the chance to do things. wanting freedom for everyone is narcissism? I don't want it for just myself....i want EVERYONE to be free "Then damn well do what is being asked of you now, so that we might actually get to a point where we aren't having to protect large chunks of our vulnerable. "Freedom for everyone" literally isn't an option right now, it requires people to think beyond their own desires, if they all do it, then it can be a short period of disruption, the more don't, the longer it goes on. | |||
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"Enough already with the 'selfish grandma serial killer' line, flu, influenza, cancer and a host of other stuff is killing more than covid, " | |||
"Not really since they say it's home transmission that's the issue right now not shop transmission. You've also got pubs and restaurants without masks which would contribute to the rise in young people. " yeah .... and how dare they go out and spend their hard earned cash on the luxury of a meal out and a few swift gargles? Killing grandma willy-nilly like that....words fail me. ....in Belfast we have a pub/restaurant called Granny Annie's.....she's begging people to come visit her without a mask and scoff her grub....she'll get her cumuppance someday soon | |||
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"You forgot death rates ....they are exactly the same as april and may"Where on earth are you getting your figures from? That is blatantly untrue. | |||
"You forgot death rates ....they are exactly the same as april and may
Where on earth are you getting your figures from?
That is blatantly untrue."sorry....you're right. I was just basing my assumption on the hysteria of people across the country and fab. ....i stand corrected. | |||
"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK. not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week "Thankfully global research efforts since January have turned up a wealth of evidence around this infection and how to deal with it. New treatment and prevention options are now better understood and available, that were not there a few months ago. New trials are underway, starting every month. Their results may help to save many deaths and, I hope, alleviate the long-term and permanent disabilities that sufferers get afflicted with. Organ damage is common, including kidneys, heart and brain, as well as the lung damage that we might expect. Use of dialysis or needing organ replacements, is a considerable burden on citizens lives, for example and would continue beyond a possible end to this virus being an infection threat. Masks are a tiny component of preventative care for each other, costing pennies and taking tiny levels of effort . It's good that we have some evidence now that indicates they can be helpful. | |||
"Not really. It's pretty obvious that having a layer of anything between you and someone else will reduce an airborne virus. The increase seems to be centred around home gatherings where masks are not involved, hence the 6 rule." How can wearing a mask remove an airborne virus? The virus is there wether we wear a mask or not | |||
"Nothing to do with pubs packed house party's etc . Many people who don't wear a seatbelt never have any consequence until the day they smash their head off the dashboard. You're right, it's nothing to do with pubs, 46,000 have been open for 2 months with probably 150 million visits with no mask wearing and in that time the death rate has continued to fall.
Why is it that people can't see that the rate of known infections is irrelevant. It is so obvious that an increased number of tests will reveal more infections. The underlying death rate is the one that counts."It seems a lot of people who want tests can't get them at the moment, yet the cases went up yesterday | |||
"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK. not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week
Thankfully global research efforts since January have turned up a wealth of evidence
around this infection and how to deal with it. New treatment and prevention options are now better understood and available, that were not there a few months ago. New trials are underway, starting every month. Their results may help to save many deaths and, I hope, alleviate the long-term and permanent disabilities that sufferers get afflicted with. Organ damage is common, including kidneys,heart and brain, as well as the lung damage that we might expect. Use of dialysis or needing organ replacements, is a considerable burden on citizens lives, for example and would continue beyond a possible end to this virus being an infection threat.
Masks are a tiny component of preventative care for each other, costing pennies and taking tiny levels of effort . It's good that we have some evidence now that indicates they can be helpful. "so on which date did they reach the tipping point from 'masks largely useless to masks essential'? And how many more days will mask/face covering wearers have to continue with the pointlessness of such an action? 17th sept 2025 maybe....what would be your cut off point for wearing it?.....without saying 'til the government tell me'.... if you were told to spend the rest of your days wearing it....would you comply? I'm just intrested to know | |||
"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK. not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week
Thankfully global research efforts since January have turned up a wealth of evidence
around this infection and how to deal with it. New treatment and prevention options are now better understood and available, that were not there a few months ago. New trials are underway, starting every month. Their results may help to save many deaths and, I hope, alleviate the long-term and permanent disabilities that sufferers get afflicted with. Organ damage is common, including kidneys,heart and brain, as well as the lung damage that we might expect. Use of dialysis or needing organ replacements, is a considerable burden on citizens lives, for example and would continue beyond a possible end to this virus being an infection threat.
Masks are a tiny component of preventative care for each other, costing pennies and taking tiny levels of effort . It's good that we have some evidence now that indicates they can be helpful.
so on which date did they reach the tipping point from 'masks largely useless to masks essential'?
And how many more days will mask/face covering wearers have to continue with the pointlessness of such an action?
17th sept 2025 maybe....what would be your cut off point for wearing it?.....without saying 'til the government tell me'.... if you were told to spend the rest of your days wearing it....would you comply? I'm just intrested to know "Irrelevant has to the effectiveness of masks I'm not sure how the government benefit from having its citizens wearing masks | |||
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"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK. not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week
Thankfully global research efforts since January have turned up a wealth of evidence
around this infection and how to deal with it. New treatment and prevention options are now better understood and available, that were not there a few months ago. New trials are underway, starting every month. Their results may help to save many deaths and, I hope, alleviate the long-term and permanent disabilities that sufferers get afflicted with. Organ damage is common, including kidneys,heart and brain, as well as the lung damage that we might expect. Use of dialysis or needing organ replacements, is a considerable burden on citizens lives, for example and would continue beyond a possible end to this virus being an infection threat.
Masks are a tiny component of preventative care for each other, costing pennies and taking tiny levels of effort . It's good that we have some evidence now that indicates they can be helpful.
so on which date did they reach the tipping point from 'masks largely useless to masks essential'?
And how many more days will mask/face covering wearers have to continue with the pointlessness of such an action?
17th sept 2025 maybe....what would be your cut off point for wearing it?.....without saying 'til the government tell me'.... if you were told to spend the rest of your days wearing it....would you comply? I'm just intrested to know
Irrelevant has to the effectiveness of masks I'm not sure how the government benefit from having its citizens wearing masks"It's a puzzler | |||
"I'd like to help the vulnerable people I support have a life that they choose. Most of them have been prisoners in their homes for six months, because of the risk to them. But it's communist to put cloth on your face. OK. not communist....pointless and ineffective as per WHO statements and advice given by 'da experts' for the first six months of this year. Look after your immune system and make sure the oxygen flows normally within you. That's proper advice.....trust me i'm a doctor ....sort of.... i watch holby city every week
Thankfully global research efforts since
January have turned up a wealth of evidence
around this infection and how to deal with it. New treatment and prevention options are now better understood and available, that were not there a few months ago. New trials are underway, starting every month. Their results may help to save many deaths and, I hope, alleviate the long-term and permanent disabilities that sufferers get afflicted with.
Organ damage is common, including kidneys,heart and brain, as well as the lung damage that we might expect. Use of dialysis or needing organ replacements, is a considerable burden on citizens lives, for example and would continue beyond a possible end to this virus being an infection threat.
Masks are a tiny component of preventative care for each other, costing pennies and taking tiny levels of effort . It's good that we have some evidence now that indicates they can be helpful.
so on which date did they reach the tipping point from 'masks largely useless to masks
essential'?
And how many more days will mask/face covering wearers have to continue with the pointlessness of such an action?
17th sept 2025 maybe....what would be your cut off point for wearing it?.....without saying 'til the government tell me'.... if you were told to spend the rest of your days wearing it....would you comply? I'm just intrested to
know
Irrelevant has to the effectiveness of masks I'm not sure how the government benefit from having its citizens wearing masks"ahh so you can set your own date for taking the mask off! So if someone said ' i'll give it three more weeks then i'll have done my bit'..you wouldn't object? Since time and effectiveness are irrelevant | |||
"Funnily enough if you google the following you will find a link with surprising results from mask wearing....."The southern hemisphere skipped flu season in 2020"" More like "the southern hemisphere puts covid on all death certificates when it was actually flu" Thats the only reason virtualy every country has had massive drop in flu cases/deaths. | |||
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"Funnily enough if you google the following you will find a link with surprising results from mask wearing....."The southern hemisphere skipped flu season in 2020" More like "the southern hemisphere puts covid on all death certificates when it was actually flu" Thats the only reason virtualy every country has had massive drop in flu cases/deaths. " Why? | |||
"Funnily enough if you google the following you will find a link with surprising results from mask wearing....."The southern hemisphere skipped flu season in 2020" More like "the southern hemisphere puts covid on all death certificates when it was actually flu" Thats the only reason virtualy every country has had massive drop in flu cases/deaths. " To make one example and without checking all the other countries...New Zealand didn't have many deaths of covid for this to be a cover up | |||
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""This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine" The contrasting messages around Covid-19 by Centers for Disease Control director Robert Redfield So the CDC are now saying the mask will stop you getting covid more than a vaccine, I'm fairly sure that for the past 2 months we've been brainwashed into thinking that masks don't protect you, they protect others. You really can't make this crap up....i take that back they are!!! " Maybe he's one of the antivaxers..
Mind you trump is all over the place with this virus too.. | |||
"There's only actually 5M folks live in New Zealand. What's that half of London " A disclaimer, I am not talking about deaths by country and comparing it to any other country, I am answering a post about the The southern hemisphere skipped flu season in 2020 | |||
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"Funnily enough if you google the following you will find a link with surprising results from mask wearing....."The southern hemisphere skipped flu season in 2020" More like "the southern hemisphere puts covid on all death certificates when it was actually flu" Thats the only reason virtualy every country has had massive drop in flu cases/deaths. To make one example and without checking all the other countries...New Zealand didn't have many deaths of covid for this to be a cover up " . It does help if your a fairly big Island with practically nobody living on it stuck in the middle of the Pacific Ocean where your not allowing anybody in or out without bloody good cause, plus it was the middle of summer when it struck not the middle of the winter, plus only 10% of the population of the planet live in the southern hemisphere and practically all of them live 3000 miles away in South America. If you were going to have a zombie apocalypse, new Zealand is the Winchester inn | |||
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"Funnily enough if you google the following you will find a link with surprising results from mask wearing....."The southern hemisphere skipped flu season in 2020" More like "the southern hemisphere puts covid on all death certificates when it was actually flu" Thats the only reason virtualy every country has had massive drop in flu cases/deaths. To make one example and without checking all the other countries...New Zealand didn't have many deaths of covid for this to be a cover up . It does help if your a fairly big Island with practically nobody living on it stuck in the middle of the Pacific Ocean where your not allowing anybody in or out without bloody good cause, plus it was the middle of summer when it struck not the middle of the winter, plus only 10% of the population of the planet live in the southern hemisphere and practically all of them live 3000 miles away in South America. If you were going to have a zombie apocalypse, new Zealand is the Winchester inn " | |||
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"Yesterday the amount of people I saw with their masks when outside up their arms was ridiculous!! I am sure they aren't sanitizing their lower arm or wrists!! Danish x " I was at a tailors last week and he’s had people walk in with them on their arms and their excuse is that they are wearing them. | |||
