Will you be having Christmas dinner with your family/extended family this year even if it means you're breaking the law,
I normally go to my brothers house as my sister in law cooks, Both sets of parents go and her brother/sister and partners are usually there, In the past that is between 10 - 14 people, I doubt my parents will go this time but as long as they invite me I will be going. |
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"Start a limited company for £6.
Employ all the members of your family on zero hour contracts and have them round as employee's.
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"I doubt many will follow the rules, People who have elderly/sick parents will probably stay away,
I will also be traveling south to see my partner at some point after the 25th "
Have a good excuse they are currently fitting more ANPR cameras to some motorways to see who is travelling and they will be in operation by end November. |
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"I doubt many will follow the rules, People who have elderly/sick parents will probably stay away,
I will also be traveling south to see my partner at some point after the 25th
Have a good excuse they are currently fitting more ANPR cameras to some motorways to see who is travelling and they will be in operation by end November. "
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"I doubt many will follow the rules, People who have elderly/sick parents will probably stay away,
I will also be traveling south to see my partner at some point after the 25th
Have a good excuse they are currently fitting more ANPR cameras to some motorways to see who is travelling and they will be in operation by end November. "
I'm not sure of the current guidelines with traveling from one area to another but I'm living alone so class my partner as my support bubble |
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I love Christmas and I am dreading the fall of not being able to see family and friends however if that is the rules I will be sticking to them. I'd rather miss one Christmas with them than every Christmas. |
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By *JCouple
over a year ago
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Previously Xmas years involved me and K going to a big 12+ family meal at my parents with my 5 nieces and nephews, brother, sister and their partners. Then after we would go to K's mum and step dads for tea along with her Nana. Finally returning home 7pmish knackered and ready to watch for Dr Who
For Xmas 2020 mine and K's first child is due 22nd of Nov so Xmas day will just be me, K the baby and our dog. K's mum and step dad are going to be our childcare support in 2021 especially when I go back to work 1st so depending on the situation by Xmas day they may come to ours Xmas day for a quick visit.
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"Will you be having Christmas dinner with your family/extended family this year even if it means you're breaking the law,
I normally go to my brothers house as my sister in law cooks, Both sets of parents go and her brother/sister and partners are usually there, In the past that is between 10 - 14 people, I doubt my parents will go this time but as long as they invite me I will be going."
We're having a funeral for our pet Turkey on Christmas day then we can have 30 people |
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Keeping it legal and simple. It's just an ovrrhyped commercial festival for adults. If people have enough free time, they can meet progressively over a short period.
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"Start a limited company for £6.
Employ all the members of your family on zero hour contracts and have them round as employee's.
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But don't forget to right the risk assessment and have the hand sanitizer stations sorted and a table big enuf to social distances do I go into food in the work place and environmental issues wast removed from a comeshal property etc if only that simple I can only now have 8 in a 8m x 5m Stafroom. I guess you could put a large tent up in the garden
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"I don't do xmas.
I'm not a christian and there's only me - seems a bit of a waste of effort, although I should point out that I don't begrudge those who do it.  "
Im not a Christian but I enjoy xmas and Easter (if for different reasons to Christians).
I’m not a pagean but celebrate Halloween and Mayfair, if for different things.
It is just a big roast dinner isn’t it? And if you fancy pulling a cracker over the table then do so but I hope you don’t spend the season alone x |
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"Will you be having Christmas dinner with your family/extended family this year even if it means you're breaking the law,
I normally go to my brothers house as my sister in law cooks, Both sets of parents go and her brother/sister and partners are usually there, In the past that is between 10 - 14 people, I doubt my parents will go this time but as long as they invite me I will be going.
Hahaha. Love this
We're having a funeral for our pet Turkey on Christmas day then we can have 30 people "
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"I doubt many will follow the rules, People who have elderly/sick parents will probably stay away,
I will also be traveling south to see my partner at some point after the 25th
Have a good excuse they are currently fitting more ANPR cameras to some motorways to see who is travelling and they will be in operation by end November. "
Currently, even under Tier 3, there's no ban on travelling. |
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"Keeping it legal and simple. It's just an ovrrhyped commercial festival for adults. If people have enough free time, they can meet progressively over a short period.
Happy for the quiet low key time"
It's a time for family to us.
They cant stick the commercial shite. |
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The rule of six is augmented by pre-existing bubbles. Is you have already been spending considerable time together then you are already part of the same bubble. As long as you're not adding people from outside of the bubble then everything is hunky dori. |
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"Will you be having Christmas dinner with your family/extended family this year even if it means you're breaking the law,
I normally go to my brothers house as my sister in law cooks, Both sets of parents go and her brother/sister and partners are usually there, In the past that is between 10 - 14 people, I doubt my parents will go this time but as long as they invite me I will be going."
A normal xmas for me is with around 10/12 people and that won't change this year, I've not been following any of these silly rules all year so xmas will not be any different. |
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over a year ago
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A normal xmas for me is with around 10/12 people and that won't change this year, I've not been following any of these silly rules all year so xmas will not be any different."
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"The rule of six is augmented by pre-existing bubbles. Is you have already been spending considerable time together then you are already part of the same bubble. As long as you're not adding people from outside of the bubble then everything is hunky dori."
My mum comes round every day but she can't be my bubble because she lives with another person. My partner comes round most days but he can't be my bubble as he lives with his parents as a carer. So when Leeds goes into tier 3 on Monday I can't see either of them except in a park. My daughter lives in tier 3 Manchester and my son in tier 3 Sheffield so they can't even travel to meet me in a park. Very depressing. |
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A normal xmas for me is with around 10/12 people and that won't change this year, I've not been following any of these silly rules all year so xmas will not be any different.
Careful people we’ve got an internet hard guy here "
Us our kids and grandkids = 12
We will be seeing each other on Christmas day |
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I've not been following any of these silly rules all year so xmas will not be any different."
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I've not been following any of these silly rules all year so xmas will not be any different.
An attitude which probably explains why Leeds has been elevated into Tier 3 from Monday. Congratulations "
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I'm going to suggest
Tiers are meaningless
Bubbles are a sham
The mirriad of dis jointed in effective layers of lip service are a just arbitrary attempts to pretend there is a plan and control
Simple simple fact
Your grand parents and vulnerable family members are not safe
Neither bubbles or rule of six makes it safe
If at any point a vulnerable spends any time un protected in anothers company they will eventually catch covid
My opinion
This xmas a lot of families will think enough is enough and the grand parents and vulnerable family members will mix and cross contamination prepare for a statisticall up tick of death after xmas
But please please do not think "bubbling" is even remotely safe it only helps track and trace NOT infection
Same with rule of six it's a rate of death controller NOT a death prevention method
Mix kids with the older generation or vulnerable and statistically death with follow
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Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway. |
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway."
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway."
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway.
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
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My Dad already has one, voluntarily. This is a man who insists I should shoot him or throw him off Scout Scar rather than place him in a care home, should he ever get to that stage. He's been telling me that since I was about 14, so 20-odd years. I don't make his decisions. |
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I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
My Dad already has one, voluntarily. This is a man who insists I should shoot him or throw him off Scout Scar rather than place him in a care home, should he ever get to that stage. He's been telling me that since I was about 14, so 20-odd years. I don't make his decisions. "
This is exactly the same for my mum (82). She is of totally sound mind. She says seeing me and her grandchildren every day since March will have been worth it even if she catches Covid from us and dies. She signed a DNR years ago and has made a lanyard to wear if she is admitted to hospital, with her signature saying "covid - no ventilator" |
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I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
My Dad already has one, voluntarily. This is a man who insists I should shoot him or throw him off Scout Scar rather than place him in a care home, should he ever get to that stage. He's been telling me that since I was about 14, so 20-odd years. I don't make his decisions.
This is exactly the same for my mum (82). She is of totally sound mind. She says seeing me and her grandchildren every day since March will have been worth it even if she catches Covid from us and dies. She signed a DNR years ago and has made a lanyard to wear if she is admitted to hospital, with her signature saying "covid - no ventilator" "
I feel awful dissuading my Dad from coming here on the train more regularly tbh. I use working from home as an excuse to minimise him travelling on trains and the risk, but he's quite literally stuck at home, totally alone in tier 3 (we're a different region but also tier 3). His lady friend, who would usually come here every few months lives in Spain and they've not seen each other physically since February. He did a little PT tourism job before lockdown which was his social life - that's gone. We're following the bubble rule and that's that. |
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I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
My Dad already has one, voluntarily. This is a man who insists I should shoot him or throw him off Scout Scar rather than place him in a care home, should he ever get to that stage. He's been telling me that since I was about 14, so 20-odd years. I don't make his decisions.
This is exactly the same for my mum (82). She is of totally sound mind. She says seeing me and her grandchildren every day since March will have been worth it even if she catches Covid from us and dies. She signed a DNR years ago and has made a lanyard to wear if she is admitted to hospital, with her signature saying "covid - no ventilator"
I feel awful dissuading my Dad from coming here on the train more regularly tbh. I use working from home as an excuse to minimise him travelling on trains and the risk, but he's quite literally stuck at home, totally alone in tier 3 (we're a different region but also tier 3). His lady friend, who would usually come here every few months lives in Spain and they've not seen each other physically since February. He did a little PT tourism job before lockdown which was his social life - that's gone. We're following the bubble rule and that's that."
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I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
My Dad already has one, voluntarily. This is a man who insists I should shoot him or throw him off Scout Scar rather than place him in a care home, should he ever get to that stage. He's been telling me that since I was about 14, so 20-odd years. I don't make his decisions.
This is exactly the same for my mum (82). She is of totally sound mind. She says seeing me and her grandchildren every day since March will have been worth it even if she catches Covid from us and dies. She signed a DNR years ago and has made a lanyard to wear if she is admitted to hospital, with her signature saying "covid - no ventilator"
I feel awful dissuading my Dad from coming here on the train more regularly tbh. I use working from home as an excuse to minimise him travelling on trains and the risk, but he's quite literally stuck at home, totally alone in tier 3 (we're a different region but also tier 3). His lady friend, who would usually come here every few months lives in Spain and they've not seen each other physically since February. He did a little PT tourism job before lockdown which was his social life - that's gone. We're following the bubble rule and that's that.
Can he not live with you temporarily?"
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It will just be me on Christmas day,I normally make a big lunch an take it down to the riverside where the homeless ex service guys meet. But wont this year as none around,all have found help an a roof over their heads. So one good thing has come from covid19 for them. |
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"It will just be me on Christmas day,I normally make a big lunch an take it down to the riverside where the homeless ex service guys meet. But wont this year as none around,all have found help an a roof over their heads. So one good thing has come from covid19 for them."
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"It will just be me on Christmas day,I normally make a big lunch an take it down to the riverside where the homeless ex service guys meet. But wont this year as none around,all have found help an a roof over their heads. So one good thing has come from covid19 for them."
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"I love Christmas and I am dreading the fall of not being able to see family and friends however if that is the rules I will be sticking to them. I'd rather miss one Christmas with them than every Christmas. "
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I don't think I'll be going to see my parents for Xmas. I can't visit them anyway because of the restrictions and they live in a different council area. They're in their 80's and have underlying health conditions so best I probably stay at home by myself. It's only one day after all and I'll be phoning them anyway |
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"It will just be me on Christmas day,I normally make a big lunch an take it down to the riverside where the homeless ex service guys meet. But wont this year as none around,all have found help an a roof over their heads. So one good thing has come from covid19 for them."
What a nice person you are. I’ll also be alone on Xmas day. I’m happy because I can do my own thing, make dinner when I want, lounge in PJs all day.....heaven after a long year of working with just one week holiday! I can’t wait. I’ll shut out the world and spend the day with my two cats |
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"Maybe count the numbers nearer the time that you are having over for Christmas Day as unfortunately some may loose some family or friends before then by the sounds of it  "
I am the oldest of our 12 |
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"I will be having the Christmas I want..end of
Putting lives at risk then?
How do you know how many of them will be in the house.
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I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway.
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
As a nurse, I've seen worse"
Worse than what exactly? This is my single, lives alone father following bubble rules. We're doing everything by the book. The fact he doesn't seem bothered about catching Covid from a family who already had it is his business. |
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway.
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
As a nurse, I've seen worse"
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway.
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
As a nurse, I've seen worse
Worse than what exactly? This is my single, lives alone father following bubble rules. We're doing everything by the book. The fact he doesn't seem bothered about catching Covid from a family who already had it is his business."
Keep calm .
Your reality is different to theirs.
I have learned that every single person has a different reality on here.
Whats right for one person is not right for the other.
By the way I hate the term covid idiot.
So do fucking condescending. |
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway."
Its freedom of choice...he understands and accepts. My Grandad had diabetes at 81..he still ate cakes n stuff because he said he wasn t gonna start worrying about death at that age. And if you are all happy...bloody right. |
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway.
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
As a nurse, I've seen worse
Worse than what exactly? This is my single, lives alone father following bubble rules. We're doing everything by the book. The fact he doesn't seem bothered about catching Covid from a family who already had it is his business.
Keep calm .
Your reality is different to theirs.
I have learned that every single person has a different reality on here.
Whats right for one person is not right for the other.
By the way I hate the term covid idiot.
So do fucking condescending. "
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"Sensual, let the bubble-ees make that decision. My Dad (81) is in our bubble because he lives alone. He is DESPERATE to come, not just at Christmas but any other time. If he catches Covid and dies, his philosophy is he'll die happy because he's seen one out of his four grandchildren (he can't see the other three unfortunately due to Covid rules). The good news is everyone in this house already had it, I have antibodies (recently) and so the likelihood of us getting again is small. Not impossible, but small. It's my Dad pushing to come here, not us desperate for him to come. Many people in their 80s are making similar decisions and I can fully understand it. I'd hate my Dad to die all alone at home, having had no social contact for 9 months (from March to Dec). He lives alone over an hour away from us so we can see him regularly despite the bubble rule anyway.
I'm sure all the nurses are most excited about experiencing the most horrid death of thousands of people that dont mind if they die ???
I assume non of those who "dont mind" would not want to sign a DNR?
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I have a DNR for all reasons on my medical docs...best not to assume..assumption is not based on fact or knowledge....and because of my work being solo in the wilds 6 to 7 days a week Im not breaking any of the rules...but still have a dnr |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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We were discussing this yesterday about Xmas plans. My brother and his fiancée bought their first house this year and I think the idea was to go around to theirs for either Xmas day or Boxing Day
Even though they live 6 miles away they were in tier 1 and we live in tier 2, so we could not meet under the old rules. Which is a bit crap as we both live within m25 but he is in herts.
We are thinking maybe just to get a Turkey joint for the three of us (mum, dad and me - we live together) and then play it by ear in case the rules are relaxed for Xmas day and Boxing Day. Luckily I have got their presents already though but worried if the lockdown gets extended much more in to December how will we get presents over to them. Though I suppose I could go for a 6 mile walk and drop them off. |
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We are putting the house on the market for Christmas day only, the family is booked in to view it in 2 hour slots.
In all seriousness we usually have about 13 people at a table for Christmas, this year it will be slightly quieter. |
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