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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"ours starts in about 8 hrs so the u.k has beaten the u.s to it 
Good now everything can get back to normal."
i doubt that very much reakon it be towards the end of 2021 before things get back toanything like they were before. |
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I think the terms of the executive order prevent American federal government from extending vaccine assistance before Americans have been vaccinated.
Moderna and pfizer, being private companies, are pretty much allowed to sell to who they like. That being said it's been reported Trump turned down the offer to buy more of the vaccines, leaving the US with 100 million doses until June 2021.
Both Modern and Pfizer CEOs turned down an invitation to a White House vaccine summit today. |
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By *ljamMan
over a year ago
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This must be causing a wave of cognitive dissonance amidst the Trump loyal.
Will their slavish devotion to the lying, pee-the-bed loving, and thankfully outgoing cuntmander in chief outweigh their mask-eschewing, Bill Gates loathing, anti-vax madness?
Fascinating times |
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"This must be causing a wave of cognitive dissonance amidst the Trump loyal.
Will their slavish devotion to the lying, pee-the-bed loving, and thankfully outgoing cuntmander in chief outweigh their mask-eschewing, Bill Gates loathing, anti-vax madness?
Fascinating times "
A lot of good decent people in America are going to suffer because him and Pence simply couldn't be bothered, sadly.
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By *ljamMan
over a year ago
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"This must be causing a wave of cognitive dissonance amidst the Trump loyal.
Will their slavish devotion to the lying, pee-the-bed loving, and thankfully outgoing cuntmander in chief outweigh their mask-eschewing, Bill Gates loathing, anti-vax madness?
Fascinating times
A lot of good decent people in America are going to suffer because him and Pence simply couldn't be bothered, sadly.
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Jokes aside, a lot have died. My knowledge of US history isn't extensive but I can't imagine history will be able to find a worse president. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"He signing a executive order to vaccine americans before any foreign country."
The right thing for any leader of a country to do and Biden will be happy with it.
It is the job of all governments to protect there own people first.
This is an area where Britain has failed in the passed |
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over a year ago
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"He signing a executive order to vaccine americans before any foreign country.The right thing for any leader of a country to do and Biden will be happy with it.
It is the job of all governments to protect there own people first.
This is an area where Britain has failed in the passed"
Apart from the fact that the uk have started before the USA and I’m sure he knew that. |
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"He signing a executive order to vaccine americans before any foreign country.The right thing for any leader of a country to do and Biden will be happy with it.
It is the job of all governments to protect there own people first.
This is an area where Britain has failed in the passed"
Not sure again how that logic works Emma, reports today that trump's administration have fecked up in not ordering enough for their citizens in the new year.. |
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I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all "
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"Why would trump followers need to be vaccinated as they keep saying it’s all a lie  "
I was about to say that. Polls indicate that only about 40% of the US population are likely to be vaccinated anyway. With that level of vaccination the US won’t be ‘getting back to normal’ at all. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why would trump followers need to be vaccinated as they keep saying it’s all a lie "
Lol hilarious since when have you heard that US citizens listen to any sitting politician. Ever just open your mind and just think for a second that the majority just treat it like another tragedy ? Surely you not that naive. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I see Democrats Republicans libertarians constitutionalist ect ect ect . Everyday getting along with thier daily lives. So how is this a political issue ? Nope it's the American spirit to blame. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
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We have 4 million pfizer vaccines on the way and 100 million Astra Zeneca....plus another 60 million of a few others (given they are approved). That more than covers 100% of population. |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
We have 4 million pfizer vaccines on the way and 100 million Astra Zeneca....plus another 60 million of a few others (given they are approved). That more than covers 100% of population."
They are pre-orders and only one has been approved for use so far. If they get approved yes that could possibly cover the UK population as would equate to 82 million double doses. Will still be within covax guidance of fair distribution globally.
However, it is not yet known how long the vaccine protects you for so as more is learnt these dosages could be used to revaccinate the vulnerable maybe at the end of next year
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
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Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president. |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president."
Read the covax group |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president."
The idiots do have faith in this conman |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman "
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens."
I live in Philly, what the hell are you talking about? |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens.
I live in Philly, what the hell are you talking about?"
Lol sorry didn't look at your profile. |
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Quote: Pfizer used $1billion of its own money to invest in the Covid-19 vaccine (£752m).
Pfizer bankrolled the vaccine but the brains behind the operation are the scientists at BioNTech. The senior VP of BioNTech is a lady called Katalin Karikó, she's Hungarian and she pioneered the mRNA technology back in the late 80s. Unfortunately no-one was bold enough to bankroll her development until now, but her work over the past 25yrs is why this vaccine apparently was developed overnight.
You can read about the brains behind the thing here (there are better links, but Fab doesn't like them).
Pfizer and BioNTech formed a marriage of convenience here.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/redemption-one-scientists-unwavering-belief-mrna-gave-world/ |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens."
no it's not been paid for by us tax payers at all and given a choice I'd much rather have the Oxford university vaccine ! |
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"This must be causing a wave of cognitive dissonance amidst the Trump loyal.
Will their slavish devotion to the lying, pee-the-bed loving, and thankfully outgoing cuntmander in chief outweigh their mask-eschewing, Bill Gates loathing, anti-vax madness?
Fascinating times
A lot of good decent people in America are going to suffer because him and Pence simply couldn't be bothered, sadly.
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some already have taking fish pond chemicals , did any die or suffer I'll health from the bleach fiasco ? Beggers belief ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"This must be causing a wave of cognitive dissonance amidst the Trump loyal.
Will their slavish devotion to the lying, pee-the-bed loving, and thankfully outgoing cuntmander in chief outweigh their mask-eschewing, Bill Gates loathing, anti-vax madness?
Fascinating times
A lot of good decent people in America are going to suffer because him and Pence simply couldn't be bothered, sadly.
some already have taking fish pond chemicals , did any die or suffer I'll health from the bleach fiasco ? Beggers belief ! "
Darwinism at its best don't you think? It does say it's for fish and not for human consumption. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens.no it's not been paid for by us tax payers at all and given a choice I'd much rather have the Oxford university vaccine ! "
Since you love facts so much.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens.no it's not been paid for by us tax payers at all and given a choice I'd much rather have the Oxford university vaccine !
Since you love facts so much.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed"
I'm able to do my own research thank you , but thanks for your input ! |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens.no it's not been paid for by us tax payers at all and given a choice I'd much rather have the Oxford university vaccine !
Since you love facts so much.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed"
Operation Warp Speed has not funded the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine that we are using now. That was bankrolled by Pfizer itself and the German Government.
Yes, Warp speed has contributed to the Oxford vaccine, but you will benefit from it by receiving vaccine at cost value. I'd say that's a damn good investment to get the country back on its feet. But that's just me. |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens.no it's not been paid for by us tax payers at all and given a choice I'd much rather have the Oxford university vaccine !
Since you love facts so much.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
Operation Warp Speed has not funded the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine that we are using now. That was bankrolled by Pfizer itself and the German Government.
Yes, Warp speed has contributed to the Oxford vaccine, but you will benefit from it by receiving vaccine at cost value. I'd say that's a damn good investment to get the country back on its feet. But that's just me."
I'd say so too |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"ours starts in about 8 hrs so the u.k has beaten the u.s to it
Good now everything can get back to normal.
Exactly how long do you think it will take to vaccinate 350million people?"
I was making a statement about the UK. Not the US. We have a ways to go.Uk 60 mill not 350 mill. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"He signing a executive order to vaccine americans before any foreign country."
Symbolic but not enforceable......
It would only apply if there was any spare capacity to fulfill.... since the companies have signed legally binding contacts to supply countries with a certain amount by a certain date there is no spare capacity
The best they can do is wait for other suppliers to get their vaccines authorised.. thus they hopefully creating spare capacity |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"ours starts in about 8 hrs so the u.k has beaten the u.s to it
Good now everything can get back to normal.
Exactly how long do you think it will take to vaccinate 350million people?
I was making a statement about the UK. Not the US. We have a ways to go.Uk 60 mill not 350 mill."
But the uk was smart in that they have divested in which manufacturers they signed contracts with to supply just in case |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"ours starts in about 8 hrs so the u.k has beaten the u.s to it
Good now everything can get back to normal.
Exactly how long do you think it will take to vaccinate 350million people?
I was making a statement about the UK. Not the US. We have a ways to go.Uk 60 mill not 350 mill.
But the uk was smart in that they have divested in which manufacturers they signed contracts with to supply just in case"
Is this praise for Boris he fucked up at Dunkirk but gets V day right  |
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"I think I’d rather be part of the covax group (as we are) which ensures that those countries that have signed up each receive enough vaccines for 20% of their population (ie the most vulnerable) as well as ensuring the low economy countries are not left out and wanting, ensuring a fair distribution of the vaccine globally, rather than a country that just looks after its own. This is a global problem after all
Did american tax payers dollar pay for the vaccine ? Yes it did along with German influence.
Do we arbitrarily give it out to other nations without vaccinating us first ? Absolutely not.
Remember we are idiots for having faith in our president.
The idiots do have faith in this conman
No us idiots been working while you enjoyed your lockdown. Enjoy the vaccine paid for by us citizens."
the UK has had to pay for the vaccine ya know ? Paid for by UK tax payers £ and it's being made in Belgium our batches too |
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"ours starts in about 8 hrs so the u.k has beaten the u.s to it
Good now everything can get back to normal.
Exactly how long do you think it will take to vaccinate 350million people?"
Need the approvals of the various vaccines, the supplies and logistics to get it to all, regardless of health insurance cover, the population fit and well enough to deliver and receive it etc. With unemployment not at zero, there is a potential for employment of people to be involved in this.
The slower it is, the smaller the population remaining to receive a vaccine, so maybe that was part of the plan Trump hatched, after disappearing for much of the month after losing his job. CVS, Walgreens etc could be involved too, with vaccines not needing -70/80 degrees Celsius storage. Perhaps even Avon parties could be repurposed, as well as Union staff and facilities. |
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