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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I once bought a DVD player off the back of a van from a man who looked like Winston Churchill, so maybe.  "
Did he have a selection of watches on the inside of his jacket? |
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"I once bought a DVD player off the back of a van from a man who looked like Winston Churchill, so maybe.
Did he have a selection of watches on the inside of his jacket?"
No but bet he had lured them there with the promise of seeing his puppies  |
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"I once bought a DVD player off the back of a van from a man who looked like Winston Churchill, so maybe.
Did he have a selection of watches on the inside of his jacket?"
No money back, no guarantee |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
They're taking their lead from the tories, who are handing out dodgy contracts to their mates and people who have paid money to their party.  |
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"Yes new lots in the fist lock down on furlough and working for cash most electrical engineers. But people want cheep jobs done. Also 2 I know tock loans 50K over God knows how long "
At least a loan should be paid back, in theory! |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
They're taking their lead from the tories, who are handing out dodgy contracts to their mates and people who have paid money to their party. "
Quite. Corruption and blatant disregard of the rules they set for us plebs, then they set us upon ourselves. |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
Take what you can, give nothing back.
- Captain Jack Sparrow."
Clearly living in a world of fiction. A disgraceful attitude! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately fraud is a part of life.
People are always looking for ways to cheat the system to make money.
It's wrong it's happened with furlough, but it was predictable. |
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By *obajxMan
over a year ago
Cheshire |
I'm furloughed and have been told, under no circumstances send or reply to any emails and refer any customers who contact me to the office
Meanwhile I have dobbed in one of my former employers for placing staff on furlough when they are working from home
They always were unscrupulous twats |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Some will get away with it, some are being caught and some companies have agreed to pay it back voluntarily.
21,000 have been caught so far. 3 have been prosecuted!!!"
It’s cheaper to get them to pay it back than prosecute so that’s usually the first corse of action |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I haven't received a penny in furlough since t was first introduced. since February last year I have earned £1400.
My savings have almost disappeared so I will eventually qualify for benefits I guess.
I'm so patriotic. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke. |
"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
HMRC started chasing back in June. Shifting huge staffing resources to it. There was a 'grace period' for companies to come clean with accounting errors or mis-claims. that has now ceased.
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Makes us giggle...a friend of ours committed so called " Benefit Fraud" and admitted to it and they derived no benefit from it all as it was done quite literally for the kids as a ex had left them in the s**** even the Benefit lot admitted in court she derived no Benefit from it all all but ..they got jailed for 6 months !
Fast forward a few years ..Sir Gary Barlow and some of his pals got caught out for £80 odd million tax evasion or the 20 odd footieball players £120 odd million tax evasion and........  .
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
Yup course there is.
It’s also the self employed who have lived a lifestyle of luxury the last 10 years but now aren’t entitled to anything because according to the calculations haven’t earned anything the last 3 years
I don’t think its about patriotism... just selfishness |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
Yup course there is.
It’s also the self employed who have lived a lifestyle of luxury the last 10 years but now aren’t entitled to anything because according to the calculations haven’t earned anything the last 3 years
I don’t think its about patriotism... just selfishness "
I list obviously exclude the people who aren’t being supported correctly! Obviously isn’t a dig at them x |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Some will get away with it, some are being caught and some companies have agreed to pay it back voluntarily.
21,000 have been caught so far. 3 have been prosecuted!!!"
Think its actually 21000 cases that HMRC are investigating, the majority from tip offs.
Going to take a while to wade through that amount of cases and initiate payback or prosecution action. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know of one company who has furloughed it’s staff, then has them in work as normal, delivering fake flowers to nursing homes. The staff only getting 80% of their wage to. The business is making more money out of the government. They don’t enforce social distancing. The owner of the company isn’t even a British National. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I haven't received a penny in furlough since t was first introduced. since February last year I have earned £1400.
My savings have almost disappeared so I will eventually qualify for benefits I guess.
I'm so patriotic."
Sod patriotism! It’s not about that.
Look at how much tax the ritz paid under those two brothers that owned it.
Claim your shit. It’s not fair on you to pay for everyone else which is what your doing. I’m lucky enough to have worked through but for people who have not been able to I think you should claim what you can. I’m sure we will all be paying it back at some point regardless |
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By *appytochatMan
over a year ago
Deep in the New Forest |
"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
There are those that have been doing it for years with the benifit system. The furlough system just opened it up to the rest of the country. Always going to be those that will take advantage if they cN get away with it. Whether that's right or wrong it going to happen. |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
yes the british are extra dodgy lol anyone see the documnetary where they were all claiming food poisoning at spanish resort for holiday insurance, in the end the spanish banned the brits! thats bad! |
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All the fiddling, furlough, bounce back loans that runt get repaid, government contractors on £6K a day etc
We will all pay this back thru taxes and austerity. If the final bill for covid furlough/business/loans/job losses/ unemployment etc is one trillion pounds that equates to £15000 each |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I haven't received a penny in furlough since t was first introduced. since February last year I have earned £1400.
My savings have almost disappeared so I will eventually qualify for benefits I guess.
If your unemployed you are entitled. If not universal credit then jobseekers allowance. Its not a lot but something is better than nothing.
I'm so patriotic."
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I know of one company who has furloughed it’s staff, then has them in work as normal, delivering fake flowers to nursing homes. The staff only getting 80% of their wage to. The business is making more money out of the government. They don’t enforce social distancing. The owner of the company isn’t even a British National. "
Report them to HMRC. Make it 21001 cases to be investigated. |
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"I know of one company who has furloughed it’s staff, then has them in work as normal, delivering fake flowers to nursing homes. The staff only getting 80% of their wage to. The business is making more money out of the government. They don’t enforce social distancing. The owner of the company isn’t even a British National.
Report them to HMRC. Make it 21001 cases to be investigated. "
Totally this.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
Are you new?
Individuals and companies have been fiddling the country out of money since the treasury started. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I know of one company who has furloughed it’s staff, then has them in work as normal, delivering fake flowers to nursing homes. The staff only getting 80% of their wage to. The business is making more money out of the government. They don’t enforce social distancing. The owner of the company isn’t even a British National.
Report them to HMRC. Make it 21001 cases to be investigated. "
You can do it online or by phone, totally anonymously. Details are on the HMRC Gov site. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" Makes us giggle...a friend of ours committed so called " Benefit Fraud" and admitted to it and they derived no benefit from it all as it was done quite literally for the kids as a ex had left them in the s**** even the Benefit lot admitted in court she derived no Benefit from it all all but ..they got jailed for 6 months !
Fast forward a few years ..Sir Gary Barlow and some of his pals got caught out for £80 odd million tax evasion or the 20 odd footieball players £120 odd million tax evasion and........ .
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I think your friend is an habitual liar, look at the punishment scales for benifit fraud, to get a term requires national paper worthy fraud, not failing to declare income for a couple of months. If they did get a term then they deserved it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
What has being patriotic got to with not being involved in fraud against ones own? |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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I'm a little sceptical, but I've been told about someone who apparently had a job before covid struck and was furloughed, it was one of the first businesses to close, took a second job with permission from the first job and got furloughed after a few months from that too as that ended up having to close, and now has a third job.
He reckons that he is getting full-time furlough from 2 jobs plus his pay from the 3rd.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt but it's interesting and according to him completely legitimate.
He says he has permission from each of the furloughed jobs to work in other places until one or both reopen. |
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
"Yes new lots in the fist lock down on furlough and working for cash most electrical engineers. But people want cheep jobs done. Also 2 I know tock loans 50K over God knows how long "
I know people who are self employed on the building trade and took the government loans. They say that they plan to dissolve their companies and thus avoid repaying the sums. Does anyone know if Hmrc pursue the company directors if this happens? I really hope so. Would be absurd if it was that simple to legitimately avoid repayment. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I'm a little sceptical, but I've been told about someone who apparently had a job before covid struck and was furloughed, it was one of the first businesses to close, took a second job with permission from the first job and got furloughed after a few months from that too as that ended up having to close, and now has a third job.
He reckons that he is getting full-time furlough from 2 jobs plus his pay from the 3rd.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt but it's interesting and according to him completely legitimate.
He says he has permission from each of the furloughed jobs to work in other places until one or both reopen."
You can only be furloughed from one job. |
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"Yes new lots in the fist lock down on furlough and working for cash most electrical engineers. But people want cheep jobs done. Also 2 I know tock loans 50K over God knows how long "
I know of at least 1 electrical engineer who has taken UK cash, his company is still doing jobs whilst he lives out of the UK in EU and has been for 9 months. |
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Look at the test and trace contract and dildo harding running test and trace the government are doing it for the benefit of them self's and the health minister has hundred grand a year job as an advisor with randox and what about the app guys who got £260 million for something that didn't work and Boris the bold said it would be the best in the world that will only be the tip of the iceberg that we have been told about will any off them pay it back or go to court |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I'm a little sceptical, but I've been told about someone who apparently had a job before covid struck and was furloughed, it was one of the first businesses to close, took a second job with permission from the first job and got furloughed after a few months from that too as that ended up having to close, and now has a third job.
He reckons that he is getting full-time furlough from 2 jobs plus his pay from the 3rd.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt but it's interesting and according to him completely legitimate.
He says he has permission from each of the furloughed jobs to work in other places until one or both reopen.
You can only be furloughed from one job. "
Please ignore that advice. I've just checked and you can be furloughed from multiple partbtime jobs. |
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"Yes new lots in the fist lock down on furlough and working for cash most electrical engineers. But people want cheep jobs done. Also 2 I know tock loans 50K over God knows how long "
It’s at 2% interest deferred for 12 months if they invest it in the markets they could make a nice return.......some will spunk it on a new car, the worlds a crazy place  |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
why not the Governmet do it on a daily basis"
Oh how we have forgotten about the MP’s expenses scam.....second homes, duck houses.......we are lions lead by lambs ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
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Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year "
all the charity bosses are on that money, give local  |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit. "
It wasn't £30 it was £15 because it was a 5 day pack. Then they have to pack it, deliver it and administer the operation. They are not a charity they also have to make profit. Then again most charities are in reality a business. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
It wasn't £30 it was £15 because it was a 5 day pack. Then they have to pack it, deliver it and administer the operation. They are not a charity they also have to make profit. Then again most charities are in reality a business. "
The families who need this parcels shouldn't be expected to lose out because of distribution. This should be accounted for when the contracts are drawn up. If you need 30 pounds worth of food, that's what you should get. The whole world is out to make a profit and that's the problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
Well, hopefully not. Not sure the same can be said for our current leaders, when you look a the PPE and Track and trace wastage/corruption. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
It wasn't £30 it was £15 because it was a 5 day pack. Then they have to pack it, deliver it and administer the operation. They are not a charity they also have to make profit. Then again most charities are in reality a business. "
Maybe the gmnt should provide the service themselves rather than rely on a company, who's bottom line is to make as much money as possible? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year "
Charity bosses earn a lot because global organisations need and want the best people to run them.
However, what would be better in my opinion is to pull in retired CEOs that are willing and able to give a couple of years to charity after a successful career - you'll find that some already do. However, the operational staff - the senior ones should be paid properly.
It's not as black and white as you make out. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year "
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
It wasn't £30 it was £15 because it was a 5 day pack. Then they have to pack it, deliver it and administer the operation. They are not a charity they also have to make profit. Then again most charities are in reality a business. "
Then give the families £30 and let them organise their own packing and delivery. It's not like people aren't experienced in the mechanics of picking what they want from a shop, paying for what they can afford and then bringing it home. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Over 10% of furlough money was fraudulently claimed amounting to over 3.5 billion. This doesn't include those businesses that claimed furlough and still got their employees to work which has been reported as having been very common and is being investigated.
HMRC has the power to recover all that money.
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year. "
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries."
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
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So you’ve just reiterated what I said. He’s the CEO of the Compass Group.
Have a look at Chartwells accounts to see what the highest paid director earned. |
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over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
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Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
So you’ve just reiterated what I said. He’s the CEO of the Compass Group.
Have a look at Chartwells accounts to see what the highest paid director earned."
Which company provides the school meals? |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe"
And?
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over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe
And?
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And?
First of all, you got his name wrong.
Secondly, he operates a global company, not a small school dinners company.
Thirdly, a subsidiary of Compass Group operates the school dinners.
At least have the correct information if you wanna bash |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe
And?
And?
First of all, you got his name wrong.
Secondly, he operates a global company, not a small school dinners company.
Thirdly, a subsidiary of Compass Group operates the school dinners.
At least have the correct information if you wanna bash"
Wanna point out where exactly
I said 'small dinners company?
Right.. so compass have nothing to do with the subsidiary company,? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year. "
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe
And?
And?
First of all, you got his name wrong.
Secondly, he operates a global company, not a small school dinners company.
Thirdly, a subsidiary of Compass Group operates the school dinners.
At least have the correct information if you wanna bash
Wanna point out where exactly
I said 'small dinners company?
Right.. so compass have nothing to do with the subsidiary company,?"
Of course they have something to do with their subsidiaries but if you think the CEO of the Compass Group would have had any idea what was being put into the school lunch boxes then you are more stupid than I thought.
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show"
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility? |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe
And?
And?
First of all, you got his name wrong.
Secondly, he operates a global company, not a small school dinners company.
Thirdly, a subsidiary of Compass Group operates the school dinners.
At least have the correct information if you wanna bash
Wanna point out where exactly
I said 'small dinners company?
Right.. so compass have nothing to do with the subsidiary company,?
Of course they have something to do with their subsidiaries but if you think the CEO of the Compass Group would have had any idea what was being put into the school lunch boxes then you are more stupid than I thought.
Of course, he now will be aware and I should imagine that the telephone lines will have been very hot."
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
No, the remuneration package of the CEO of the Compass Group was £4 million. The Compass Group has a turnover of £25 billion, it employs 600,000 staff and operates in 45 countries.
The company that provides the school meals is one of its many subsidiaries.
Dominic Greenwood the ceo was on a salary worth £.4.7million a year.
Last year this was cut to £1.2m due to the Corona virus.Even that was 54 times the average of the median salary at the company
Dominic Blakemore - he is the CEO of Compass Group. As stated a group that employs over half a million people and operates around the globe
And?
And?
First of all, you got his name wrong.
Secondly, he operates a global company, not a small school dinners company.
Thirdly, a subsidiary of Compass Group operates the school dinners.
At least have the correct information if you wanna bash
Wanna point out where exactly
I said 'small dinners company?
Right.. so compass have nothing to do with the subsidiary company,?
Of course they have something to do with their subsidiaries but if you think the CEO of the Compass Group would have had any idea what was being put into the school lunch boxes then you are more stupid than I thought.
Of course, he now will be aware and I should imagine that the telephone lines will have been very hot.
I didnt say he did..but as the head of the company, he takes ultimate responsibility. "
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?"
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
Anyone who evades tax, cheats the benefits/welfare/health system, steals public funds/property etc. is fiddling their country out of money. It happens everywhere, is far worse in many countries than the UK and isn't restricted to any particular racial, cultural, religious or political group. Amongst the higher earners, the worlds of politics, elite sport, entertainment, media and business are full of examples of people who've fiddled their country. Those who preach the loudest when condemning it whilst secretly doing it themselves being the biggest hyprocrites of all. It wasn't that long ago that parliament was riddled with expenses fraud - housing allowances, cash for questions/honours and the like. It's really not much different now and members of all parties are involved. Numerous wealthy celebrities have engaged in tax evasion and dubious tax avoidance schemes or moved their affairs to tax havens - some of them have been honoured despite paying little or no tax here at all. Then there was a certain actor/comedian who thought it was ok to furlough his gardener and housekeeper. Just examples of an endemic problem but one which is evident around the globe.
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels"
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount."
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
Anyone who evades tax, cheats the benefits/welfare/health system, steals public funds/property etc. is fiddling their country out of money. It happens everywhere, is far worse in many countries than the UK and isn't restricted to any particular racial, cultural, religious or political group. Amongst the higher earners, the worlds of politics, elite sport, entertainment, media and business are full of examples of people who've fiddled their country. Those who preach the loudest when condemning it whilst secretly doing it themselves being the biggest hyprocrites of all. It wasn't that long ago that parliament was riddled with expenses fraud - housing allowances, cash for questions/honours and the like. It's really not much different now and members of all parties are involved. Numerous wealthy celebrities have engaged in tax evasion and dubious tax avoidance schemes or moved their affairs to tax havens - some of them have been honoured despite paying little or no tax here at all. Then there was a certain actor/comedian who thought it was ok to furlough his gardener and housekeeper. Just examples of an endemic problem but one which is evident around the globe.
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One of the issues I think is that benefit scroungers are routinely demonized,to such an extent that television shows are actually made about them.
Politicians made them out to be much widespread than was actually the case (strivers not skivers)and it's got to a stage where peope are embarrassed to be given a helping hand.
On the other hand,as you rightly point out,creative account practices etc are treated much differently. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company "
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link? |
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over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?"
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point"
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue. "
This thread had nothing to do with the school meal fiasco actually.
You compared the CEO of a charity to the CEO of a private company. So I showed you the highest paid private company CEO, you could've also showing hundreds of others including registered charities CEOs.
It's a bit boring now so I'm out |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue.
This thread had nothing to do with the school meal fiasco actually.
You compared the CEO of a charity to the CEO of a private company. So I showed you the highest paid private company CEO, you could've also showing hundreds of others including registered charities CEOs.
It's a bit boring now so I'm out "
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue. "
Elon! I know how pedantic you are with names ?? |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue.
Elon! I know how pedantic you are with names ??"
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue.
This thread had nothing to do with the school meal fiasco actually.
You compared the CEO of a charity to the CEO of a private company. So I showed you the highest paid private company CEO, you could've also showing hundreds of others including registered charities CEOs.
It's a bit boring now so I'm out "
You'll be quicker next time. |
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"The companies supplying £30 food boxes with £6sworth of food seem to be making a good profit.
Out of hungry children.
Very hard to give to charity when so called bosses are on 150k a year
The CEO of the school dinner company was on 4m a year.
Right here, hebis not the CEO of the school dinner company.
Maybe you'd know this is you knew how groups were structured.
Charlie Brown is MD of Chartwells. He is the man in charge of this shit show
So I didn't say small dinner company at all?
So I'll ask again does the parent company have ultimate responsibility?
Ultimately yes, the Group would have ultimate responsibility but you seem to think the guy sitting at the top should fall on his sword just because of his salary.
However, as stated by someone else, he would've had absolutely no idea what was going in those parcels
Once again making up stuff I've never said.
The point was made that the ceo of charities earn 150k.
I was simply pointing out that the head of the company, ultimately responsible, for the school meals fiasco earns many times that amount.
And Elon Musk was paid 600m last year but you choose the guy who is CEO of A catering company
Was Eton musk involved in a company that provided inadequate school meals?
I must have missed that
Can you provide a link?
So it was because of his position and salary. Nothing to do with showing that CEOs earn more than 150k.
You could've chosen hundreds ahead of him if that was your point
I've no idea what you are going on about.
The thread is about the school meal fiasco.
You rather bizarrely bring Eton musk into the debate.
I'll try again.
The salary of a ceo of a charity was brought up.
I simply compared this to the salary of the ceo who has involved in the school meals issue.
This thread had nothing to do with the school meal fiasco actually.
You compared the CEO of a charity to the CEO of a private company. So I showed you the highest paid private company CEO, you could've also showing hundreds of others including registered charities CEOs.
It's a bit boring now so I'm out
You'll be quicker next time. "
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This thread has gone off on a tangent somehow.
I'm not sure how the salary of a senior executive of a charity should be lower than they can get In a different field.
What is true is that those below them are expected to work for peanuts. That's the crime! |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
Of course.
What do you think is going on every time a tradesman takes cash in hand instead of giving a pukka bill? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money? "
enough said about the pie scoffing tories handing taxpayers money to their tory chums in lucrative contracts. . |
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"I'm a little sceptical, but I've been told about someone who apparently had a job before covid struck and was furloughed, it was one of the first businesses to close, took a second job with permission from the first job and got furloughed after a few months from that too as that ended up having to close, and now has a third job.
He reckons that he is getting full-time furlough from 2 jobs plus his pay from the 3rd.
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt but it's interesting and according to him completely legitimate.
He says he has permission from each of the furloughed jobs to work in other places until one or both reopen.
You can only be furloughed from one job.
Please ignore that advice. I've just checked and you can be furloughed from multiple partbtime jobs. "
this will be a weird but rare loophole - the chances pf people getting job after job and keeppng getting furloughed are not high... businesses arent recruiting people just to keep them at home
the reason its allowable is because the scheme was designed to stop companies laying people off and doing redundancies ... it was to keep those jobs in the employment market rather than keep specific people in jobs ... but because you might only get 80% they couldnt then restrict the employees from taking additional work to top up |
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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago
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Is it unpatriotic to take money raised by taxation and not do as you have been asked for that money?
This is the root accusation made against most people who try to jiggle a little extra from the benefit system and are caught (which they are expected AND required to return).
Does it make them unpatriotic if they refuse?
If so, track and trace development agency has a shit load of answering to do......IMHO. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think its about being patriotic, it's about greed and causing a divide and the furlough is the tip of the iceberg.
Look how many people defraud the nhs, MPs claiming expenses they aren't entitled to, contracts to mates or companies not paying their fair share of tax- all defrauding the tax payer.
Typical news stories getting everyone to report each other for literally no money in comparison.
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Furlough has been extremely helpful to my husbands business. He has managed to keep all staff employed (and topped up to 100%) throughout a period where contracts have been delayed, and flexi furlough has allowed slow reingagement of staff in line with workload.
To correct a few statements on here, staff still accrue holidays whilst furloughed, and some had to take annual leave over Christmas, but the company didn’t claim for this.
Also, it is not ‘free’ money as it is reported as income and subject to corporation tax, which will most likely be increased during the next budget due to borrowing through the pandemic. |
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"I don't think its about being patriotic, it's about greed and causing a divide and the furlough is the tip of the iceberg.
Look how many people defraud the nhs, MPs claiming expenses they aren't entitled to, contracts to mates or companies not paying their fair share of tax- all defrauding the tax payer.
Typical news stories getting everyone to report each other for literally no money in comparison.
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"Furlough has been extremely helpful to my husbands business. He has managed to keep all staff employed (and topped up to 100%) throughout a period where contracts have been delayed, and flexi furlough has allowed slow reingagement of staff in line with workload.
To correct a few statements on here, staff still accrue holidays whilst furloughed, and some had to take annual leave over Christmas, but the company didn’t claim for this.
Also, it is not ‘free’ money as it is reported as income and subject to corporation tax, which will most likely be increased during the next budget due to borrowing through the pandemic."
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
Of course.
What do you think is going on every time a tradesman takes cash in hand instead of giving a pukka bill?"
I agree, but I can't think of anyone who hasn't been guilty of taking advantage of that situation. How about you? |
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over a year ago
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I know personally several self employed people who have worked and carried on business as normal but have claimed the furlough money, they seem convinced they are entitled to it, I have been online to check how you qualify and none of them have any of the 3 main reasons for entitlement, my accountant says they will have to pay it back, I hope someone catches up with them and punishes them on top of what has been falsely claimed its bloody despicable. |
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"I know personally several self employed people who have worked and carried on business as normal but have claimed the furlough money, they seem convinced they are entitled to it, I have been online to check how you qualify and none of them have any of the 3 main reasons for entitlement, my accountant says they will have to pay it back, I hope someone catches up with them and punishes them on top of what has been falsely claimed its bloody despicable. "
If their business has been affected by Covid then they can claim. If it hasn't been, then they shouldn't.
Although there are no real ways to tell this right now I wouldn't be surprised if the Gov do some investigations once Tax Returns start going in |
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Maybe the gmnt should provide the service themselves rather than rely on a company, who's bottom line is to make as much money as possible?"
That would be fine if we had a government which believed in providing services themselves and not one which sees everything as potential profit for themselves and their cronies. |
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"Furlough has been extremely helpful to my husbands business. He has managed to keep all staff employed (and topped up to 100%) throughout a period where contracts have been delayed, and flexi furlough has allowed slow reingagement of staff in line with workload.
To correct a few statements on here, staff still accrue holidays whilst furloughed, and some had to take annual leave over Christmas, but the company didn’t claim for this.
Also, it is not ‘free’ money as it is reported as income and subject to corporation tax, which will most likely be increased during the next budget due to borrowing through the pandemic."
We had one guy at work furloughed for 6 months came back to the warehouse for a week and took a weeks holiday. I have worker right through and got 28days holiday
Hi got 6 months off paid and got 28days holiday. I feel like I have been muged off.  |
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"Are the British so unpatriotic that they fiddle their country out of money?
Of course.
What do you think is going on every time a tradesman takes cash in hand instead of giving a pukka bill?
I agree, but I can't think of anyone who hasn't been guilty of taking advantage of that situation. How about you? "
Yes indeed. When I was young and foolish
But my point wasn't so much that I'm a saint, cos I'm not, just that, as you rightly reinforce, there's a lot of it about so nobody should really be surprised. Disappointed yes. Surprised no. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Furlough has been extremely helpful to my husbands business. He has managed to keep all staff employed (and topped up to 100%) throughout a period where contracts have been delayed, and flexi furlough has allowed slow reingagement of staff in line with workload.
To correct a few statements on here, staff still accrue holidays whilst furloughed, and some had to take annual leave over Christmas, but the company didn’t claim for this.
Also, it is not ‘free’ money as it is reported as income and subject to corporation tax, which will most likely be increased during the next budget due to borrowing through the pandemic.
We had one guy at work furloughed for 6 months came back to the warehouse for a week and took a weeks holiday. I have worker right through and got 28days holiday
Hi got 6 months off paid and got 28days holiday. I feel like I have been muged off. "
Why? He was still employed by the compamy so has accured the holidays.i was off from march till begining of october am now back three days a week.was informed just before xmas i still have 21 days i need to take before april or i will lose them |
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"I know personally several self employed people who have worked and carried on business as normal but have claimed the furlough money, they seem convinced they are entitled to it, I have been online to check how you qualify and none of them have any of the 3 main reasons for entitlement, my accountant says they will have to pay it back, I hope someone catches up with them and punishes them on top of what has been falsely claimed its bloody despicable. "
A lot of cash in hand jobs are being done off the books. Not sure how people will get caught. |
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"I know personally several self employed people who have worked and carried on business as normal but have claimed the furlough money, they seem convinced they are entitled to it, I have been online to check how you qualify and none of them have any of the 3 main reasons for entitlement, my accountant says they will have to pay it back, I hope someone catches up with them and punishes them on top of what has been falsely claimed its bloody despicable.
A lot of cash in hand jobs are being done off the books. Not sure how people will get caught. "
you cant have checked online all that well because self employed people are not even on furlough
their assistance was calculated and classified differently and they are allowed to continue to work and the payouts including grants for property will be added to their annual tax return |
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I know of people who own small businesses who have furloughed family members who have only ever been on the books for tax purposes but don’t actually work there regularly. And I know of small businesses who have furloughed staff but made them come in for training, this is allowed except the ‘training’ has actually been cleaning and maintenance work. The staff want to keep their jobs so they comply.
We will be paying for furlough payments for many years to come.
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