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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?"
It’s literally 6 people and a dog Tom, I shouldn’t let it stew your swede |
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Some are more comfortable having the Oxford than the Pfizer as its older vaccine technology or because of the issue with sone allergic reactions in the beginning so I guess it depends on their reasons. Also not sure what you mean about until its out as the Oxford one is already in use. |
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over a year ago
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"I had the pifzer one, tbh I couldn’t tell the difference... they all taste the same 
Seriously though as long as it works does it matter which one we have/get? "
My understanding as it only matters if you have certain allergies because the Oxford one does seem to be more suitable than the Pfizer one. |
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"Some are more comfortable having the Oxford than the Pfizer as its older vaccine technology or because of the issue with sone allergic reactions in the beginning so I guess it depends on their reasons. Also not sure what you mean about until its out as the Oxford one is already in use. "
Yes I was wondering that and has been in use widely in the UK for a few weeks now. |
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?"
A British one, how do you decide if it's British. |
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?"
Maybe a surge in Toolery ?  |
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?"
Ever heard of Brexit? |
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"Give me Pfizer or Moderna please. "
Same, after my research and chose Pfizer everyone will have their reasons, hopefully it’s not just because it’s British!
(Different work sites had different vaccines) |
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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago
trouble most likely, or creating it :) |
Didnt think you could actually choose . I know people I booked in asked which it was and to br fair it depended on how they were booked in.. national booking system was all the oxford one.. the other clinics were a mix of vaccines.. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
There may some absolute Darwin award recipients out there making a decision based on nationalism but a lot of people are saying they would prefer the AZ vaccine because:
1. It is using tried and tested bio tech (unlike others)
2. For the time being AZ are providing it at cost (so not making HUGE profits unlike others) |
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Unfortunately your preference won't matter. It depends which vaccine they have in the clinic when your appointment comes up. The Oxford one is given to those who have had serious allergic reactions to vaccines previously as a precaution. Some seem to suffer worse side effects from the Oxford vaccine. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately your preference won't matter. It depends which vaccine they have in the clinic when your appointment comes up. The Oxford one is given to those who have had serious allergic reactions to vaccines previously as a precaution. Some seem to suffer worse side effects from the Oxford vaccine. "
Some may arrive.. ask which one is available .. and then make their decision.. |
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"Unfortunately your preference won't matter. It depends which vaccine they have in the clinic when your appointment comes up. The Oxford one is given to those who have had serious allergic reactions to vaccines previously as a precaution. Some seem to suffer worse side effects from the Oxford vaccine.
Some may arrive.. ask which one is available .. and then make their decision.."
Put them to the bottom of the queue then. I've vaccinated 100s with both vaccines and all I've received is gratitude. People are happy to be vaccinated whichever one it is |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately your preference won't matter. It depends which vaccine they have in the clinic when your appointment comes up. The Oxford one is given to those who have had serious allergic reactions to vaccines previously as a precaution. Some seem to suffer worse side effects from the Oxford vaccine.
Some may arrive.. ask which one is available .. and then make their decision..
Put them to the bottom of the queue then. I've vaccinated 100s with both vaccines and all I've received is gratitude. People are happy to be vaccinated whichever one it is"
I agree... Power to you x |
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Not been done yet, but in my area they seem to have both Pfizer and AZ available, and select according to whether patients have previously had any reaction to vaccines.
Personally i think i would rather have the one with the strawberry sprinkles. Or maybe the chocolate flavour? Oh, it's just so hard to decide   |
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"Not been done yet, but in my area they seem to have both Pfizer and AZ available, and select according to whether patients have previously had any reaction to vaccines.
Personally i think i would rather have the one with the strawberry sprinkles. Or maybe the chocolate flavour? Oh, it's just so hard to decide "
You definitely look like a strawberry sprinkles kinda gal xx |
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?
It’s literally 6 people and a dog Tom, I shouldn’t let it stew your swede "
Is there a number published anywhere of how many people have actually refused to take the vaccine ? |
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?
It’s literally 6 people and a dog Tom, I shouldn’t let it stew your swede
Is there a number published anywhere of how many people have actually refused to take the vaccine ? "
I suspect refusals are those that choose not to make appointments. I think those currently eligible are likely to refuse as so many have been shielding. Maybe those numbers may rise as the age range lowers. |
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?
It’s literally 6 people and a dog Tom, I shouldn’t let it stew your swede
Is there a number published anywhere of how many people have actually refused to take the vaccine ? "
I Don't think so.
There seems to be some articles that give anecdotal evidence from some vaccination centres but I did look and couldn't see any official figure. |
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I think its pretty understandable.
The Pfizer vaccine is mRNA technology and this type of vaccine has never before been licensed for use.
The technology used in the Oxford vaccine has already been used to creat flu vaccines among other things.
There is simply no long-term data for the widespread use of mRNA vaccines.
If i had to pick on of the current available it would be the Oxford one for sure. |
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Is there a number published anywhere of how many people have actually refused to take the vaccine ?
I Don't think so.
There seems to be some articles that give anecdotal evidence from some vaccination centres but I did look and couldn't see any official figure. "
It would be hard to distinguish refusals from people who were ill on the day and couldn't have it, or like Captain Tom having other medication instead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not British, but what is wrong with patriotism or even nationalism?"
nothing per se
it just seems like a petty thing to delay getting a vaccine for ... if anything its more patriotic to get the jab and help your country get back to normal than to delay waiting for a british version
totally get the people who choose between them for scientific reasons though |
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"All this posting is not helping some, who are already anxious...no point in posting....not important in grand scheme of things..."
I find it interesting to see what different people's reactions to different vaccines is. It will help me be prepared when I get mine |
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"Bit strange that Trump called it the China strain and got slaughtered but it's in common language to call it the South Africa strain and the Kent strain and the Brazil strain.."
Trump was not just describing a particular strain. He repeatedly called Coronavirus as a whole a Chinese virus. |
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"Bit strange that Trump called it the China strain and got slaughtered but it's in common language to call it the South Africa strain and the Kent strain and the Brazil strain..
Trump was not just describing a particular strain. He repeatedly called Coronavirus as a whole a Chinese virus."
It was also the way he pronounced china. |
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"There may some absolute Darwin award recipients out there making a decision based on nationalism but a lot of people are saying they would prefer the AZ vaccine because:
1. It is using tried and tested bio tech (unlike others)
2. For the time being AZ are providing it at cost (so not making HUGE profits unlike others)"
This  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The wider issue will I think come down to countries not recognising certain vaccines. The US for instance insisting on a US made vaccine rather that the Oxford one. We will inevitably have vaccine certification for travel and this will become a big talking point I think. |
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"The wider issue will I think come down to countries not recognising certain vaccines. The US for instance insisting on a US made vaccine rather that the Oxford one. We will inevitably have vaccine certification for travel and this will become a big talking point I think."
So how would I get a US made vaccine to be able to travel there ? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I certainly try to call them by the numbers.
B117 is a lot less problematic than lumping a region or group of people in with a problem."
And of course everyone will know exactly what you mean..  |
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"Bit strange that Trump called it the China strain and got slaughtered but it's in common language to call it the South Africa strain and the Kent strain and the Brazil strain..
Trump was not just describing a particular strain. He repeatedly called Coronavirus as a whole a Chinese virus.
It was also the way he pronounced china."
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By *uboCouple
over a year ago
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?"
No it is a sign of stupidity
Refusing on that basis, it should just be treated as a Vax refusal. End of the queue |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Reports that some patients refusing the vaccine until the British one is out.. is this a surge in nationalism or a surge in patriotism or something else ?
Could they donate to someone else ?
No it is a sign of stupidity
Refusing on that basis, it should just be treated as a Vax refusal. End of the queue"
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