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"Bet the human rights lawyers will have a field day, while everyone should have tha vaccine to make it compulsory is wrong." They won't, because vaccine mandates are permitted under EHCR jurisprudence. | |||
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"Not sure it will pass as law just reading about it in Sur. “The legislation does not have the approval of the central government, which, although it supports encouraging mass inoculation by all means, believes that this proposal to modify the Health Law violates fundamental rights and contradicts national regulations. This opinion is shared by opposition parties as well as by numerous lawyers” Could get litigious. " I doubt it. Knowing the speed of the Spanish legal system the pandemic will be long forgotten before it ever sees the inside of a court room. | |||
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"Bet the human rights lawyers will have a field day, while everyone should have tha vaccine to make it compulsory is wrong." Most countries are not as demercratic or soft and wishy washy like the UK. Our freedom ideals have cost many lives and ruined many lives during covid a more strick attitude and temporary withdrawal of our petty freedoms would have helped us a lot. Boris gets the blame but a lot is the fault of the people in this land | |||
"Bet the human rights lawyers will have a field day, while everyone should have tha vaccine to make it compulsory is wrong.Most countries are not as demercratic or soft and wishy washy like the UK. Our freedom ideals have cost many lives and ruined many lives during covid a more strick attitude and temporary withdrawal of our petty freedoms would have helped us a lot. Boris gets the blame but a lot is the fault of the people in this land" Ja, mein sturmbahnfuhrer.. | |||
"Not sure it will pass as law just reading about it in Sur. “The legislation does not have the approval of the central government, which, although it supports encouraging mass inoculation by all means, believes that this proposal to modify the Health Law violates fundamental rights and contradicts national regulations. This opinion is shared by opposition parties as well as by numerous lawyers” Could get litigious. " It will depend on separation and devolution of powers there. It might be beyond the remit of central government | |||
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"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?" Why indeed? | |||
"Bet the human rights lawyers will have a field day, while everyone should have tha vaccine to make it compulsory is wrong.Most countries are not as demercratic or soft and wishy washy like the UK. Our freedom ideals have cost many lives and ruined many lives during covid a more strick attitude and temporary withdrawal of our petty freedoms would have helped us a lot. Boris gets the blame but a lot is the fault of the people in this land" Brainwashed | |||
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"Bet the human rights lawyers will have a field day, while everyone should have tha vaccine to make it compulsory is wrong.Most countries are not as demercratic or soft and wishy washy like the UK. Our freedom ideals have cost many lives and ruined many lives during covid a more strick attitude and temporary withdrawal of our petty freedoms would have helped us a lot. Boris gets the blame but a lot is the fault of the people in this land" Petty freedoms.... just wow | |||
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"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. " Just another covidiot | |||
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"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. " Data so far (even this early) does show that the vaccine is hindering infection and helping reduce the spread. You have data that provides different evidence? How does “the jab” we are being given have a latent dormancy that will be triggered at a certain point in time? Why would a Government want to make a population ill again in the future? Why would Governments world wide who all have different political agendas and goals all suddenly work together on a common goal? It’s the Lizard people isn’t it They were not happy when that asteroid hit the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs. Time to repopulate with reptilians and wipe us lot out. | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. " get a grip mate and give your head a wobble. | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?" People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?"  | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. " Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. " It's almost like various countries have thought of this and there's rationale behind it  | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20" Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules) | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules)" | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Data so far (even this early) does show that the vaccine is hindering infection and helping reduce the spread. You have data that provides different evidence? How does “the jab” we are being given have a latent dormancy that will be triggered at a certain point in time? Why would a Government want to make a population ill again in the future? Why would Governments world wide who all have different political agendas and goals all suddenly work together on a common goal? It’s the Lizard people isn’t it They were not happy when that asteroid hit the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs. Time to repopulate with reptilians and wipe us lot out. " Have a look on the governments own web page for the numbers who have had issues and/or death from taking the jab. Its part of the yellow card system, which is estimated to be around 5% of the true picture. You want to find 'Noids Weekly Report' Due to the drop in covid cases because of the end of winter (usual with seasonal respiratory infections) and the WHO (not the band), telling the test centres to reduce the number of cycles during the testsing, the numbers have swung the other way. More people died last week from reactions to the jab than died from what they call covid. Now don't get upset with me, its on the governments own web page. The numbers of psychotic incidents make interesting reading too, I think some of them post on here! | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules)" I thought my favourite member of the Behavioural Insights Team would pop up, or are you working for 77? That scheme has been in place for years. It will give you a one of payment of £120,000 if it is proved the vaccine was at fault. But there is no come back on the drug companies. I would rather have my family than £120,000. Not sure what price you put on yours? | |||
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"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules) I thought my favourite member of the Behavioural Insights Team would pop up, or are you working for 77? That scheme has been in place for years. It will give you a one of payment of £120,000 if it is proved the vaccine was at fault. But there is no come back on the drug companies. I would rather have my family than £120,000. Not sure what price you put on yours?" Your reply to us was that it wasn’t true that people got this. She has proven you wrong. Drug companies provide what the government asks for hence why the government takes the risks damages. Would you take the jab then if the drug company paid the damages? Or if you got £10million ? | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Data so far (even this early) does show that the vaccine is hindering infection and helping reduce the spread. You have data that provides different evidence? How does “the jab” we are being given have a latent dormancy that will be triggered at a certain point in time? Why would a Government want to make a population ill again in the future? Why would Governments world wide who all have different political agendas and goals all suddenly work together on a common goal? It’s the Lizard people isn’t it They were not happy when that asteroid hit the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs. Time to repopulate with reptilians and wipe us lot out. " Best response so far. M | |||
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"I have not had the jab and am curious if you had to sign a document before you had the jab? Did you read it first and do you have a copy?" Two questions. 1) Have you ever received a vaccine for anything in the past? 2) Have you ever been given a document to read and sign before the vaccine was administered? M | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain." Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid. 
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"I have not had the jab and am curious if you had to sign a document before you had the jab? Did you read it first and do you have a copy? Two questions. 1) Have you ever received a vaccine for anything in the past? 2) Have you ever been given a document to read and sign before the vaccine was administered? M" No, thats why I am curious if you do with this jab. | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules) I thought my favourite member of the Behavioural Insights Team would pop up, or are you working for 77? That scheme has been in place for years. It will give you a one of payment of £120,000 if it is proved the vaccine was at fault. But there is no come back on the drug companies. I would rather have my family than £120,000. Not sure what price you put on yours? Your reply to us was that it wasn’t true that people got this. She has proven you wrong. Drug companies provide what the government asks for hence why the government takes the risks damages. Would you take the jab then if the drug company paid the damages? Or if you got £10million ? " I will not take it, full stop! | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid.
M"Sure does. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Isn't it interesting that the Spanish government think that this is permissible under human rights law | |||
"I have not had the jab and am curious if you had to sign a document before you had the jab? Did you read it first and do you have a copy? Two questions. 1) Have you ever received a vaccine for anything in the past? 2) Have you ever been given a document to read and sign before the vaccine was administered? M No, thats why I am curious if you do with this jab." So, why would you have to read and sign something with this jab? What's the difference? M | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid.
M
Sure does.
Vaccine mandates exist in Spain.
Isn't it interesting that the Spanish government think that this is permissible under human rights law "I blame Brexit. M | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid.
M
Sure does.
Vaccine mandates exist in Spain.
Isn't it interesting that the Spanish government think that this is permissible under human rights law
I blame Brexit.
M
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"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules) I thought my favourite member of the Behavioural Insights Team would pop up, or are you working for 77? That scheme has been in place for years. It will give you a one of payment of £120,000 if it is proved the vaccine was at fault. But there is no come back on the drug companies. I would rather have my family than £120,000. Not sure what price you put on yours? Your reply to us was that it wasn’t true that people got this. She has proven you wrong. Drug companies provide what the government asks for hence why the government takes the risks damages. Would you take the jab then if the drug company paid the damages? Or if you got £10million ? " My reply was to point out that the government have protected the drug companies from direct prosecution. | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid.
M
Sure does.
Vaccine mandates exist in Spain.
Isn't it interesting that the Spanish government think that this is permissible under human rights law
I blame Brexit.
M
"Why am I not surprised someone like you would? | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued? People can sue the government if things go wrong , it’s the same for every vaccine. It’s under the vaccine damage payment. So far been used 947 times since 1979. Sadly not this time. They have all been given protection from prosicution - 'The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency on Tuesday under regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012 which allows an unlicensed medication to be used in an emergency such as a pandemic. It also has the effect of granting civil immunity to Pfizer after the government changed the regulations following a short three-week consultation in September.' Quote from an article in the The Independant 02-12-20 Incorrect. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-add-covid-19-to-vaccine-damage-payments-scheme (Government links allowed in forum rules) I thought my favourite member of the Behavioural Insights Team would pop up, or are you working for 77? That scheme has been in place for years. It will give you a one of payment of £120,000 if it is proved the vaccine was at fault. But there is no come back on the drug companies. I would rather have my family than £120,000. Not sure what price you put on yours? Your reply to us was that it wasn’t true that people got this. She has proven you wrong. Drug companies provide what the government asks for hence why the government takes the risks damages. Would you take the jab then if the drug company paid the damages? Or if you got £10million ? My reply was to point out that the government have protected the drug companies from direct prosecution." If you look at the site History of Vaccines, under the title "Vaccine Injury Compensation Programs" (can't link per Fab rules) it'll explain the rationale for the US system (I've not been able to find it for the UK). | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid.
M
Sure does.
Vaccine mandates exist in Spain.
Isn't it interesting that the Spanish government think that this is permissible under human rights law
I blame Brexit.
M
Why am I not surprised someone like you would?"Someone like me? 
What a wholly bizarre thing to say.
M
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"i am glad thay have done this hope thay do it in pubs 2 in uk" Have you had the wonder jab? | |||
"It's amazing that this thread on vaccine mandates in Spain has derailed into compensation in the UK. Vaccine mandates exist in Spain. Nonsense spreads quicker than Covid.
M
It is not when you have read your other posts
Sure does.
Vaccine mandates exist in Spain.
Isn't it interesting that the Spanish government think that this is permissible under human rights law
I blame Brexit.
M
Why am I not surprised someone like you would?
Someone like me?
What a wholly bizarre thing to say.
M
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"They have 100 Euro fines for not wearing masks correctly. Plus fines for putting people at risk of infection, which increase, depending on the numbers at risk. " I suspect it's due to different attitudes to criminal liability. | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Just another covidiot" A critical thinker | |||
"i am glad thay have done this hope thay do it in pubs 2 in uk Have you had the wonder jab?" I've literally just had it, my appointment was at 12.20 this afternoon. Nothing to read, nothing to sign. I was asked pretty much the same questions I am at the dentist before they inject a painkilling jab for a filling. Given a very comprehensive two sided sheet of A4 notes about the vaccine and potential after effects. No drama, the jab itself is little more than a scratch. 10 minute sit down afterwards before being sent home. Piece of piss. I think that answers your earlier questions. I'm still trying to work out what "someone like me" means though. I dont think weve ever met, so perhaps you could elaborate. M | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?" | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?" You know that for every vaccine we've ever been given for every illness, every single pharmaceutical company has the same agreement, yes? No one cries about this when they take a flu jab every year. Or whatever pox they're being protected against when they jet off for their holidays. Hundreds and thousands of parents taking their children to the doctor for their jabs since Moses was a lad. Not a word about indemnity. Yet all of a sudden....... It's a head scratcher. M | |||
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"Forcing someone to have a vaccine against their will and their human rights. But not having the vaccine and the potential impact on others would effectively violating their human rights. So if you don't have the vaccine you'll may be restricted on your freedoms, which again is a violation of human rights There are going to be a lot of very rich human rights lawyers "Not really. The EHCR allows vaccine mandates. | |||
"Forcing someone to have a vaccine against their will and their human rights. But not having the vaccine and the potential impact on others would effectively violating their human rights. So if you don't have the vaccine you'll may be restricted on your freedoms, which again is a violation of human rights There are going to be a lot of very rich human rights lawyers
Not really. The EHCR allows vaccine mandates."There's no place here for facts. Specially ones that disprove a daft or half arsed belief. 
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"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. " Spot on | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on" Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M | |||
"Totally wrong to make it mandatory as it violates fundamental human right. Individuals should have the final say over their health and body" It's not mandatory. It's not against anyone's human rights. M | |||
"Forcing someone to have a vaccine against their will and their human rights. But not having the vaccine and the potential impact on others would effectively violating their human rights. So if you don't have the vaccine you'll may be restricted on your freedoms, which again is a violation of human rights There are going to be a lot of very rich human rights lawyers
Not really. The EHCR allows vaccine mandates."Whilst I think the anti-vaxxers are utter bonkers, I'm not sure you're correct about a mandate for vaccination under the EHCR. Section 8 allows for this it doesn't guarantee the legitimacy of the legislation passed by State. Isn't there considerable case law, mainly pertaining to a refusal to be vaccinated on religious grounds, that discuss the overall ethics of mandatory vaccinations? In this instance, I don't believe the mandate would be successfully challenged, it is for the greater good after all, but I don't think it's as straight forward as simply saying it's allowed under the EHCR. | |||
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"Forcing someone to have a vaccine against their will and their human rights. But not having the vaccine and the potential impact on others would effectively violating their human rights. So if you don't have the vaccine you'll may be restricted on your freedoms, which again is a violation of human rights There are going to be a lot of very rich human rights lawyers
Not really. The EHCR allows vaccine mandates.
Whilst I think the anti-vaxxers are utter bonkers, I'm not sure you're correct about a mandate for vaccination under the EHCR. Section 8 allows for this it doesn't guarantee the legitimacy of the legislation passed by State. Isn't there considerable case law, mainly pertaining to a refusal to be vaccinated on religious grounds, that discuss the overall ethics of mandatory vaccinations?
In this instance, I don't believe the mandate would be successfully challenged, it is for the greater good after all, but I don't think it's as straight forward as simply saying it's allowed under the EHCR."I'm basing my assertion on this (citation not link because of Fab rules): "Do compulsory vaccinations against COVID-19 violate human rights? An assessment of the measure’s compatibility with the European Convention on Human Rights", 02.12.2020, Völkerrechtsblog | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M" yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up" I'm beginning to understand why shares in tinfoil are at an all time high. M | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up I'm beginning to understand why shares in tinfoil are at an all time high. M" Nope just a critical thinker not someone who just gives away all of my rights just so i can go to a restaurant or jump on a plane | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up I'm beginning to understand why shares in tinfoil are at an all time high. M ------- Nope just a critical thinker not someone who just gives away all of my rights just so i can go to a restaurant or jump on a plane" Anybody capable or "critical thinking" would be able to see that no right have been relinquished. Unfortunately most "critical thinkers" are getting their critical thoughts presented to them on Facebook, YouTube or similar. Cal | |||
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"I'm not sure many people really understand what "critical thinking" is "I think (but not critically) that you may be right. Cal | |||
"I'm not sure many people really understand what "critical thinking" is
I think (but not critically) that you may be right.
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"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up" Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up I'm beginning to understand why shares in tinfoil are at an all time high. M Nope just a critical thinker not someone who just gives away all of my rights just so i can go to a restaurant or jump on a plane" Love the irony in this. It's always those incapable of critical analysis or even basic understanding of some very very simple concepts that cry "critical thinking" when they run out of bs... or are incapable of discussing a subject because we aren't using meme. Heaven forbid fan ever let us reference credible sources. You know what they say about arguing with idiots. This one must be a spoof account ... no one can be this simple... | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results " Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on They admit it doesn't stop you getting covid, they admit it doesnt stop transmission, there is a 95 percent survival rate. You still have to wear a mask to which they cant provide any proof wearing masks long term doesnt cause respiratory problems, we have been in lockdown for 12 months yet some how a Brazil variant has arrived along with a Kent variant, how is this when people comibg in from abroad are stuffed into isolation hotels. The police have gone barking mad arresting people, polititians breaching tbeir own regulations they tried to enforce as law, and yet you still believe the people at government have our best interest at heart | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on They admit it doesn't stop you getting covid, they admit it doesnt stop transmission, there is a 95 percent survival rate. You still have to wear a mask to which they cant provide any proof wearing masks long term doesnt cause respiratory problems, we have been in lockdown for 12 months yet some how a Brazil variant has arrived along with a Kent variant, how is this when people comibg in from abroad are stuffed into isolation hotels. The police have gone barking mad arresting people, polititians breaching tbeir own regulations they tried to enforce as law, and yet you still believe the people at government have our best interest at heart " You thus provide no evidence, as I suggested | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on They admit it doesn't stop you getting covid, they admit it doesnt stop transmission, there is a 95 percent survival rate. You still have to wear a mask to which they cant provide any proof wearing masks long term doesnt cause respiratory problems, we have been in lockdown for 12 months yet some how a Brazil variant has arrived along with a Kent variant, how is this when people comibg in from abroad are stuffed into isolation hotels. The police have gone barking mad arresting people, polititians breaching tbeir own regulations they tried to enforce as law, and yet you still believe the people at government have our best interest at heart " ... You don't believe there's any evidence, so there isn't any evidence? ... Ok. | |||
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"Just follow the money you will see the evidence then" Follow what money where? Evidence of what? Say what you're trying to say, don't spout platitudes. | |||
"Just follow the money you will see the evidence then Follow what money where? Evidence of what? Say what you're trying to say, don't spout platitudes."
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"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?" Yes now especially that it's coming out that people are suffering blood clots from these vaccines hmmmm! | |||
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"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on They admit it doesn't stop you getting covid, they admit it doesnt stop transmission, there is a 95 percent survival rate. You still have to wear a mask to which they cant provide any proof wearing masks long term doesnt cause respiratory problems, we have been in lockdown for 12 months yet some how a Brazil variant has arrived along with a Kent variant, how is this when people comibg in from abroad are stuffed into isolation hotels. The police have gone barking mad arresting people, polititians breaching tbeir own regulations they tried to enforce as law, and yet you still believe the people at government have our best interest at heart " You say; "Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on" If you want evidence of long term testing for a vaccine that's only existed for a few months, you'll need to wait a long term. You're asking the impossible, then basing your position on something that's impossible to answer. I'd have thought a "critical thinker" such as yourself would have realised that. I have a question for you, it requires only a yes or no answer. If and when you are offered the vaccine will you accept it? Yes or no? M | |||
"If Governments want to make having the Vaccine mandatory and for people to passively accept that, then they should remove the immunity from litigation from the big pharma companies. If they are all so convinced the various vaccines are totally safe then why do they need protection from being sued?" Damn I got completely distracted from what you wrote... what a figure!!?? | |||
"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on They admit it doesn't stop you getting covid, they admit it doesnt stop transmission, there is a 95 percent survival rate. You still have to wear a mask to which they cant provide any proof wearing masks long term doesnt cause respiratory problems, we have been in lockdown for 12 months yet some how a Brazil variant has arrived along with a Kent variant, how is this when people comibg in from abroad are stuffed into isolation hotels. The police have gone barking mad arresting people, polititians breaching tbeir own regulations they tried to enforce as law, and yet you still believe the people at government have our best interest at heart " I don't understand your specific kind of crazy but I admire your total commitment to it.
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"It isn't a vaccine because it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it, its a lab test to which cant be made mandatory because BoJo would be sued to the hilt, so how BoJo gets, around it is fear mongering and lockdowns. That in turn gets people turning up with their sleeves rolled up like good citizens thibking they will get their freedoms back. Then when people become ill say in five or ten years time, the government will say hey you volunteered for it we didnt force you. Spot on Yup. You'll have seen literally millions of people who given a jab for Polio, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, the flu and God knows how many other vaccines or coming forward to say how they were forced into taking those vaccines I'm sure. You've seen them, yes? I mean, there's been literally millions of them since we started vaccinations in 1796. You've got to have seen a few, surely....... M yup and those were tested and tested and tested. This one even Doctor Bill Gates admitted there wouldnt be the time to do safety checks on this COVID vaccine, so to get around it they get us to volunteer as lab rats through the use of fear an coercion and hey presto how many peole turn up with their sleeves rolled up Thankfully whoever that Dr Bill Gates is/was, wasn't involved in the research and development of the different vaccines that have gone through the necessary research stages, resulting in the publication of their results for peer review in credible scientific journals. It's beyond time to drop the nonsense of fallacious arguments such as you've posed, not grounded in any reality. Presumably you've not read all of the published scientific literature, to be able to present a valid appraisal. It certainly does not appear that way, based on the spurious fantasy BS shown here. Have you been in contact with the regulator which has given approval for these vaccines? I'm again assuming not. Posting disinformation or twaddle that would discourage some from potentially lifesaving health care is what's dangerous and could result in the loss of life. Reflect on the caution that you should rightly impose on yourself, before causing such atrocious results Where is the evidence and long term testing to show this vaccination is a life saver?? This is what i base my opinion on They admit it doesn't stop you getting covid, they admit it doesnt stop transmission, there is a 95 percent survival rate. You still have to wear a mask to which they cant provide any proof wearing masks long term doesnt cause respiratory problems, we have been in lockdown for 12 months yet some how a Brazil variant has arrived along with a Kent variant, how is this when people comibg in from abroad are stuffed into isolation hotels. The police have gone barking mad arresting people, polititians breaching tbeir own regulations they tried to enforce as law, and yet you still believe the people at government have our best interest at heart " You say 'this is what I base my opinion on', referring to evidence that you have not read or read and understood. You based your opinion on something that you created in your own mind, derived from whatever drives your 'thinking' processes. If you want to delve into the world of science, you will need to acquaint yourself with the scientific process. It may not take you too long to do, though I, of course, cannot vouch for your motivation and cognitive abilities, etc. Sweeping conclusions based on your inner dialogue, not grounded in the reality of research evidence, isn't going to clinch it. If you can manage it, then intelligent critical thinking could start to be possible. Earlier hominin forms than ourselves seemed to demonstrate some abilities to apply their minds this way, so there could be hope for you to at least try harder with what's between your ears. It's an important topic, affecting all of our lives. As I stated in my earlier post, we do owe others respect for their wellbeing. We thus should impose self-restraint before posting anything that may give others an understanding that is incorrect and lead them to avoid safer choices. Disinformation can be very dangerous and lead to avoidable loss of life. | |||
