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"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" Yep the vaccine is saving millions of lives, if you're worried take half an aspirin or speak to your doctor | |||
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"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject? Yep the vaccine is saving millions of lives, if you're worried take half an aspirin or speak to your doctor" If he is prone to blood clotting . I would be sure the specialist he is seeing for his clotting would know more than rob of a fab . Who suggest he takes half an aspirin  | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" If I were you I would go for it. If you work out the numbers 17M have had the AZ vaccine in UK and Europe and there are about 40 blood clot cases. Approximately 1 in 1000 have a blood clot during their lifetime. If you assume the 17M have on average had the vaccine for two months- that equates to about 1/500 of a lifetime. So you would normally expect 17M divided by 1000 divided by 500 cases without any vaccine = 34. However the vaccine has been given largely to older and more vulnerable people so you would expect more. If there have only been 40 cases with clots that seems lower than would be expected in normal circumstances! | |||
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"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" I think it's absolute nonsense and a smokescreen for the ineptitude and inability of the EU to provide the vaccine in sufficient quantities. All you have to do is look at the figures | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject? If I were you I would go for it. If you work out the numbers 17M have had the AZ vaccine in UK and Europe and there are about 40 blood clot cases. Approximately 1 in 1000 have a blood clot during their lifetime. If you assume the 17M have on average had the vaccine for two months- that equates to about 1/500 of a lifetime. So you would normally expect 17M divided by 1000 divided by 500 cases without any vaccine = 34. However the vaccine has been given largely to older and more vulnerable people so you would expect more. If there have only been 40 cases with clots that seems lower than would be expected in normal circumstances!" Exactly this. | |||
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"If you're concerned about your specific case, you should speak to your GP. " Absolutely | |||
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"No risk at all Numbers are low, and remember that all vaccines and medicines carry a very small risk Statistically, You’re more likely to have a reaction to Paracetamol (if you read the drug sheet you’d never take them!) " Yes, between 1 and 2% have reactions to paracetamol . Most are not serious but the serious cases far exceed the serious reactions to the vaccine | |||
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"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject? Yep the vaccine is saving millions of lives, if you're worried take half an aspirin or speak to your doctor If he is prone to blood clotting . I would be sure the specialist he is seeing for his clotting would know more than rob of a fab . Who suggest he takes half an aspirin "Whilst I generally agree with this point, I had my vaccine as the news was breaking on the blood clotting and having had PEs 18 years ago I asked the nurse for advice. She suggested I take an aspirin a day for a couple of weeks if I was worried, although did reassure me there was nothing to worry about. Rob may be into something...... | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" There is no need to be concerned. The incidence of blood clots are actually lower in the vaccinated group compared to the general population. If you get covid then you are highly likely to get a blood clot and will be automatically started on anticoagulant therapy. It is highly likely that the EMA in the EU will state today that there is no evidence of any issue and patients identified already had issues with clots forming. If you think about it, this is like saying that we will blame the vaccine for a patient having cancer that was there already. | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject? Yep the vaccine is saving millions of lives, if you're worried take half an aspirin or speak to your doctor If he is prone to blood clotting . I would be sure the specialist he is seeing for his clotting would know more than rob of a fab . Who suggest he takes half an aspirin "If he is prone to it then he should be under review anyway and most likely on some form of anticogulant treatment and monitoring. | |||
"So.last weel the EU are moaning as AZ are struggling to supply to them then suddenly this week the EU are getting problems with the same. Bit like believing Meghan and Harry really.... "I wonder if they actually know which vaccine they were given! | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" This was taken fro a BMJ article.... A spokesperson for AstraZeneca said, “Patient safety is the highest priority for AstraZeneca. Regulators have clear and stringent efficacy and safety standards for the approval of any new medicine, and that includes Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. “An analysis of our safety data of more than 10 million records has shown no evidence of an increased risk of pulmonary embolism or deep vein thrombosis in any defined age group, gender, batch or in any particular country with Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. In fact, the observed number of these types of events is significantly lower in those vaccinated than what would be expected among the general population.” | |||
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"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" i wouldnt worry at all, im not even sure why its a story! every medical organisation is supporting its use, think its a political football rather than a medical issue  | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject?" The clotting of the blood accurs within the first few hours....are you ok? Good then your be alright | |||
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"Fact no increase in blood clots than normal fact % of clots is allmost the same after people have had phizer vaccine. I see this as European empire plan to get back at us for leaving. They are cutting off there noses to spit there face cannot wait for my second Oxford jab the more for us,please everyone go get your vaccine when invited" i don’t understand how they would be getting back at us or what being political about this would achieve? is the oxford vaccine not being done at cost? so if we don’t distribute more then we haven’t lost out anyway? they have just paused to do their due diligence , however for women already taking the pill our risk is already much higher than this vaccine so makes no difference to me unless a doctor tells me layering each on top of the other increases risk again so recommends pill takers to get the other one | |||
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"So, if countries really are pausing the vaccine for 'political' reasons, whilst causing more death, doesn't this make any conspiracy theory more plausible??" No | |||
"So, if countries really are pausing the vaccine for 'political' reasons, whilst causing more death, doesn't this make any conspiracy theory more plausible?? No" Because it sounds like a mad conspiracy theory. | |||
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" i don’t understand how they would be getting back at us or what being political about this would achieve? is the oxford vaccine not being done at cost? so if we don’t distribute more then we haven’t lost out anyway? " The political ramifications are clear. The EU has messed up their vaccine rollout in a big way. There are leaders that need to try and justify the slow rollout and need to try and justify why they’ve spent months rubbishing their vaccine. This is quite long but feel free to read if you have time. 1. The EU failed to negotiate and procure a steady supply of vaccines in time. Thus putting them at the back of the queue and contributing to shortages. 2. AstraZeneca claim the EU did not worm to help iron out the supply chain and fund factories and development. Instead choosing to spend months trying to negotiate the price of something that was already being sold at cost price. Again causing further delays. 3. The EU didn’t keep to their side of the contract, about doing their best efforts to ensure that the supply of goods, ingredients, staff, parts and everything vital to the supply chain was organised. Leading to hiccups and delays (the U.K. had the same issues but ironed them out months earlier due to better preparation). 4. The EU risked ruining peace in Northern Ireland in an attempt to pressure the U.K. into giving the EU our vaccine supply. 5. The EU said the AstraZeneca vaccine didn’t work in over 65’s, thus putting off tens of millions from taking it and delaying the roll out, even after it was declared effective. 6. In response to AstraZeneca shortages in the EU, Macron came out said it didn’t matter because AZ was “quasi ineffective” damaging confidence in the vaccine even further. Citing “German sources” which we later learned was a total fabrication. 7. Merkel said she wouldn’t take AstraZeneca because she’s over 60. Suspicion and mistrust grows. 8. German news falsely reported that AstraZeneca was only 8% effective, and that news was perpetuated throughout the EU, thus damaging confidence even more. 9. Doctors and nurses in Germany and France went on strike saying they don’t want the AZ vaccine because of side effects and lack of protection. Macron and Merkel then amplify these stories of doctors having “time off work”after having a dose, and imply that the vaccine is dangerous. 10. The EU laugh at the U.K. for delaying doses, claiming it is dangerous, ineffective and bad leadership. When evidence arrives that proves it’s a good strategy, the EU do not acknowledge it or adjust their strategy. They continue at a snails pace. 11. The WHO says vaccine is safe to use in all ages. Some EU states try to encourage public to take it but the public are now too scared. 12. After months of fear mongering, 80% of the AstraZeneca stockpile in the EU sits unused. Doctors and nurses cannot persuade the public to take it. Politicians are under pressure to explain why they got it so wrong. 14. Some AZ recipients get bloodclots, less than would be expected in the general population. Even Less than was seen in the Pfizer group. 15. Some European nations investigate reports of clots. The WHO say continue vaccinating, there is little risk. Despite this. France business minister calls Spain, Germany and Italy to escalate situation and they co-ordinate to suspend the AZ vaccine (four countries that already had terrible public uptake due to fearmongering). They don’t suspect Pfizer despite there being more bloodclots among Pfizer recipients. 16. Many other countries around the world have blocked vaccine in reaction to European panic. 17. EU leaders now conveniently have an excuse for all of the delays, poor uptake, shortfall in delivery and things that have gone wrong. By labelling as dangerous they can seem like heroes for not rushing it out quickly, and also by pausing they can justify why they still have 80% of the vaccine stockpiled. 18. (Not happened yet) results show AZ is fine, the European public won’t accept it because of all the negativity the EU has spread. A Third wave of Covid strikes Europe and new mutations and more deaths occurs because some politicians were too afraid to admit their mistakes. | |||
" i don’t understand how they would be getting back at us or what being political about this would achieve? is the oxford vaccine not being done at cost? so if we don’t distribute more then we haven’t lost out anyway? The political ramifications are clear. The EU has messed up their vaccine rollout in a big way. There are leaders that need to try and justify the slow rollout and need to try and justify why they’ve spent months rubbishing their vaccine. This is quite long but feel free to read if you have time. 1. The EU failed to negotiate and procure a steady supply of vaccines in time. Thus putting them at the back of the queue and contributing to shortages. 2. AstraZeneca claim the EU did not worm to help iron out the supply chain and fund factories and development. Instead choosing to spend months trying to negotiate the price of something that was already being sold at cost price. Again causing further delays. 3. The EU didn’t keep to their side of the contract, about doing their best efforts to ensure that the supply of goods, ingredients, staff, parts and everything vital to the supply chain was organised. Leading to hiccups and delays (the U.K. had the same issues but ironed them out months earlier due to better preparation). 4. The EU risked ruining peace in Northern Ireland in an attempt to pressure the U.K. into giving the EU our vaccine supply. 5. The EU said the AstraZeneca vaccine didn’t work in over 65’s, thus putting off tens of millions from taking it and delaying the roll out, even after it was declared effective. 6. In response to AstraZeneca shortages in the EU, Macron came out said it didn’t matter because AZ was “quasi ineffective” damaging confidence in the vaccine even further. Citing “German sources” which we later learned was a total fabrication. 7. Merkel said she wouldn’t take AstraZeneca because she’s over 60. Suspicion and mistrust grows. 8. German news falsely reported that AstraZeneca was only 8% effective, and that news was perpetuated throughout the EU, thus damaging confidence even more. 9. Doctors and nurses in Germany and France went on strike saying they don’t want the AZ vaccine because of side effects and lack of protection. Macron and Merkel then amplify these stories of doctors having “time off work”after having a dose, and imply that the vaccine is dangerous. 10. The EU laugh at the U.K. for delaying doses, claiming it is dangerous, ineffective and bad leadership. When evidence arrives that proves it’s a good strategy, the EU do not acknowledge it or adjust their strategy. They continue at a snails pace. 11. The WHO says vaccine is safe to use in all ages. Some EU states try to encourage public to take it but the public are now too scared. 12. After months of fear mongering, 80% of the AstraZeneca stockpile in the EU sits unused. Doctors and nurses cannot persuade the public to take it. Politicians are under pressure to explain why they got it so wrong. 14. Some AZ recipients get bloodclots, less than would be expected in the general population. Even Less than was seen in the Pfizer group. 15. Some European nations investigate reports of clots. The WHO say continue vaccinating, there is little risk. Despite this. France business minister calls Spain, Germany and Italy to escalate situation and they co-ordinate to suspend the AZ vaccine (four countries that already had terrible public uptake due to fearmongering). They don’t suspect Pfizer despite there being more bloodclots among Pfizer recipients. 16. Many other countries around the world have blocked vaccine in reaction to European panic. 17. EU leaders now conveniently have an excuse for all of the delays, poor uptake, shortfall in delivery and things that have gone wrong. By labelling as dangerous they can seem like heroes for not rushing it out quickly, and also by pausing they can justify why they still have 80% of the vaccine stockpiled. 18. (Not happened yet) results show AZ is fine, the European public won’t accept it because of all the negativity the EU has spread. A Third wave of Covid strikes Europe and new mutations and more deaths occurs because some politicians were too afraid to admit their mistakes." so thats a long list of issues for Europe (some of them not even political but i guess a long list was more effective for your point) how is any of it “getting back at the UK”(presumably for brexit) which is what the post i replied to and you cropped out said? why do we care if they mess up, are slow and haven’t made as much progress, slag off our vaccine, even stop using it - if we are providing at cost then we don’t stand to make a profit anyway so it just lets us carry on supplying and sorting out our own country, if they mess up on their own vaccine rollout and cut off their nose to spite their face why do we care? People were so desperate to leave but like a bitter ex watching through a friends facebook after the divorce still want to keep score | |||
" i don’t understand how they would be getting back at us or what being political about this would achieve? is the oxford vaccine not being done at cost? so if we don’t distribute more then we haven’t lost out anyway? The political ramifications are clear. The EU has messed up their vaccine rollout in a big way. There are leaders that need to try and justify the slow rollout and need to try and justify why they’ve spent months rubbishing their vaccine. This is quite long but feel free to read if you have time. 1. The EU failed to negotiate and procure a steady supply of vaccines in time. Thus putting them at the back of the queue and contributing to shortages. 2. AstraZeneca claim the EU did not worm to help iron out the supply chain and fund factories and development. Instead choosing to spend months trying to negotiate the price of something that was already being sold at cost price. Again causing further delays. 3. The EU didn’t keep to their side of the contract, about doing their best efforts to ensure that the supply of goods, ingredients, staff, parts and everything vital to the supply chain was organised. Leading to hiccups and delays (the U.K. had the same issues but ironed them out months earlier due to better preparation). 4. The EU risked ruining peace in Northern Ireland in an attempt to pressure the U.K. into giving the EU our vaccine supply. 5. The EU said the AstraZeneca vaccine didn’t work in over 65’s, thus putting off tens of millions from taking it and delaying the roll out, even after it was declared effective. 6. In response to AstraZeneca shortages in the EU, Macron came out said it didn’t matter because AZ was “quasi ineffective” damaging confidence in the vaccine even further. Citing “German sources” which we later learned was a total fabrication. 7. Merkel said she wouldn’t take AstraZeneca because she’s over 60. Suspicion and mistrust grows. 8. German news falsely reported that AstraZeneca was only 8% effective, and that news was perpetuated throughout the EU, thus damaging confidence even more. 9. Doctors and nurses in Germany and France went on strike saying they don’t want the AZ vaccine because of side effects and lack of protection. Macron and Merkel then amplify these stories of doctors having “time off work”after having a dose, and imply that the vaccine is dangerous. 10. The EU laugh at the U.K. for delaying doses, claiming it is dangerous, ineffective and bad leadership. When evidence arrives that proves it’s a good strategy, the EU do not acknowledge it or adjust their strategy. They continue at a snails pace. 11. The WHO says vaccine is safe to use in all ages. Some EU states try to encourage public to take it but the public are now too scared. 12. After months of fear mongering, 80% of the AstraZeneca stockpile in the EU sits unused. Doctors and nurses cannot persuade the public to take it. Politicians are under pressure to explain why they got it so wrong. 14. Some AZ recipients get bloodclots, less than would be expected in the general population. Even Less than was seen in the Pfizer group. 15. Some European nations investigate reports of clots. The WHO say continue vaccinating, there is little risk. Despite this. France business minister calls Spain, Germany and Italy to escalate situation and they co-ordinate to suspend the AZ vaccine (four countries that already had terrible public uptake due to fearmongering). They don’t suspect Pfizer despite there being more bloodclots among Pfizer recipients. 16. Many other countries around the world have blocked vaccine in reaction to European panic. 17. EU leaders now conveniently have an excuse for all of the delays, poor uptake, shortfall in delivery and things that have gone wrong. By labelling as dangerous they can seem like heroes for not rushing it out quickly, and also by pausing they can justify why they still have 80% of the vaccine stockpiled. 18. (Not happened yet) results show AZ is fine, the European public won’t accept it because of all the negativity the EU has spread. A Third wave of Covid strikes Europe and new mutations and more deaths occurs because some politicians were too afraid to admit their mistakes. so thats a long list of issues for Europe (some of them not even political but i guess a long list was more effective for your point) how is any of it “getting back at the UK”(presumably for brexit) which is what the post i replied to and you cropped out said? why do we care if they mess up, are slow and haven’t made as much progress, slag off our vaccine, even stop using it - if we are providing at cost then we don’t stand to make a profit anyway so it just lets us carry on supplying and sorting out our own country, if they mess up on their own vaccine rollout and cut off their nose to spite their face why do we care? People were so desperate to leave but like a bitter ex watching through a friends facebook after the divorce still want to keep score " Every point was political, each decision was made by politicians. The getting back at us part - I probably should have included an additional part. We were invited to join the EU vaccine scheme early last year, and after consideration we turned it down. I read an interview with an MEP who said the attitude was very much “silly Britain trying to do it alone. We’ll show our members why we’re better together”. Our rollout is going brilliantly, thankfully. But on the flip side Europe’s isn’t going well. So some politicians have to justify that by rubbishing the U.K. and throwing doubt at as many aspects of our rollout as possible. I don’t think it’s about getting direct revenge on us, but it’s more about trying to sow seeds of doubt and damage our reputation. Are they doing that because they hate us ? I don’t think so, but I do think they’re doing it to make themselves look good and to try and cover up their mistakes | |||
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"The UK government have an indemnity clause saying they are not responsible for any vaccine side effects. The other countries do not. The UK government is being less than honest to its population and the other governments are being cautious because the payments, if proven, would make them unelectable. It’s all about populism rather than health ." That’s not true. People keep spreading that misinformation. The U.K. have an indemnity clause saying the government won’t sue companies, and they won’t sue those doctors nurses and pharmacies that administer the jab. They had to do that clause to reassure third parties and speed up the process. As a person receiving the jab you can still take legal action and claim. You are still legally protected. You still have rights. Our government are essentially acting as an insurance company and will handle any payouts and legal work where required. In short, if something were to go wrong then you complain to the government instead of AZ or Pfizer and the gov will take responsibility. If other countries didn’t have that clause then it gives them even less reason to be cautious, because they can just pass on any charges to those companies. | |||
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"The UK government have an indemnity clause saying they are not responsible for any vaccine side effects. The other countries do not. The UK government is being less than honest to its population and the other governments are being cautious because the payments, if proven, would make them unelectable. It’s all about populism rather than health ." Government liability for vaccine injury is long standing in many countries. It's just the way it works. It's a non story being hyped by people with an agenda | |||
"I don’t know if it helps but I have an irregular heartbeat which make me more prone to the possible danger of clots so take aspirin and statin but to honest the danger of not taking a vaccine against Covid outweigh a possible side effect. So my advice is go for it "Really sensible advice Thank you | |||
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"The UK government have an indemnity clause saying they are not responsible for any vaccine side effects. The other countries do not. The UK government is being less than honest to its population and the other governments are being cautious because the payments, if proven, would make them unelectable. It’s all about populism rather than health . Government liability for vaccine injury is long standing in many countries. It's just the way it works. It's a non story being hyped by people with an agenda" I agree in that it’s about populism. The agenda is from the governments in the ‘not on our watch’ stance but also, the vaccine does have a propensity to cause clotting due to corona virus’ modus operandi. | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject? If I were you I would go for it. If you work out the numbers 17M have had the AZ vaccine in UK and Europe and there are about 40 blood clot cases. Approximately 1 in 1000 have a blood clot during their lifetime. If you assume the 17M have on average had the vaccine for two months- that equates to about 1/500 of a lifetime. So you would normally expect 17M divided by 1000 divided by 500 cases without any vaccine = 34. However the vaccine has been given largely to older and more vulnerable people so you would expect more. If there have only been 40 cases with clots that seems lower than would be expected in normal circumstances!" The current issue in Germany is that about 6 people too many developed a rare and specific type of thrombosis that warrants further investigation at this stage... they suffered sinus vein thrombosis which would not normally occur at rate in that (younger) age group. It seems sensible to pause while this is investigated otherwise im sure in the long term, not doing so would have greater implications for the vaccine programme. It's definitely not easy keeping everyone happy but sometimes you just gotta play it safe...for a little while. Im sure the AZ vaccination rollout in the EU will resume soon enough | |||
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"So.last weel the EU are moaning as AZ are struggling to supply to them then suddenly this week the EU are getting problems with the same. Bit like believing Meghan and Harry really.... "Report in Telegraph, yesterday. Italian Medicines Regulator has admitted it is all political. Short of supplies due to beauracratic cock ups in placing orders late. So suspend use to "hide" the real reason.....genius! | |||
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"Well they have given it the green light,although they have still left some doubts about the colts...the bloody clots "think the eu leaders are the clots! | |||
"So.last weel the EU are moaning as AZ are struggling to supply to them then suddenly this week the EU are getting problems with the same. Bit like believing Meghan and Harry really....
Report in Telegraph, yesterday.
Italian Medicines Regulator has admitted it is all political.
Short of supplies due to beauracratic cock ups in placing orders late. So suspend use to "hide" the real reason.....genius!"The whole shitshow has been political from day one. There will be some folk twisting it round to blame the Tories when most countries have failures . This tribalism costs lives .. its the new political landscape unfortunately. | |||
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"You're worried about a medical complication due to having a vaccine. Instead of consulting a medical professional, you ask a forum that is hosted on a website dedicated predominantly to people who wish to have sex with other people other than there own partner. And that is what it's come too. I'm sure all the warehouse workers, carers, office workers etc will tell you the answer you want to hear. "people other than their own partner .... id be so glad to be the other half of that couple
lots of people use fab as an addition to their life rather than as escape from it - that addition doesn’t have to only take the form of banging | |||
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"According to BBC just now: “A review by the EU's medicines regulator has concluded the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine is "safe and effective", and its benefits outweigh the risks. The European Medicines Agency (EMA) found the vaccine was "not associated" with a higher risk of blood clots. But it said it would continue to study the possibility of such links.” " Well they have to keep justifying their massive paycheques  | |||
"Just watching reports of the suspension of the Astra vaccine in many countries. I appreciate it's probably an over reaction and possibly politically motivated in certain countries, however as I'm prone to blood clotting and have had this particular vaccine I can't help being slightly concerned. Anyone got any positive views on this subject? I think it's absolute nonsense and a smokescreen for the ineptitude and inability of the EU to provide the vaccine in sufficient quantities. All you have to do is look at the figures "The WHO and outside countries have been condemning the EU's games now. One asked why Germany had only administered a fraction of what they already have? They haven't had a response. Maybe they have had to dispose a lot as the roll out wasn't taken up as well well as anticipated or their system of storage didn't compensate for this either. Italian health officials said yesterday the country will administer just a single vaccine dose to those who have recently recovered from a Covid-19 infection, in a move aimed at saving shots amid low supplies. The recommendation applies to both people who have fallen ill and those who were diagnosed but had no symptoms between three and six months ago. I'm guessing this may have changes to the initial idea of the vaccine passport as the only way forward too. | |||
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