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It just confirms my suspicions that politics is a "career choice" than a public service. One fraught with opportunity for self-enrichment.
I'd prefer to see the role as one done for fixed wage, with no gifts or perks allowed. Completely unnecessary.
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Good luck to them.
Personally, I could not think of a worse career than that of a politician.
Can you imagine sitting in your monthly surgeries listening to every dickhead and his dog who tips up.
I couldn't keep my mouth shut.  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them."
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege. |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege. "
So only less well off people should become politicians? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege.
So only less well off people should become politicians? "
Absolutely not! How did you come to that conclusion from what I said? You do know it is perfectly possible to be successful and/or wealthy while not breaking the rules or being underhand right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?"
The world is corrupt and politicians the worst of them. Its easy to make money when you know what will sell |
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"People inclined to enrich themselves have taken advantage of a terrible situation."
Yup and this will always happen as there will always be those willing to profit from others suffering in a time of need |
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?"
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it? |
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
more have win the lottery worldwide and made even more money?
what are you inferring?"
That they used the pandemic to enrich themselves. |
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
more have win the lottery worldwide and made even more money?
what are you inferring?
That they used the pandemic to enrich themselves."
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"People inclined to enrich themselves have taken advantage of a terrible situation."
Yeah but anyone would have done it.
The fact that politicians who,unless I'm mistaken, were voted in to look after our own interests, instead used the situation to make them selves, even richer,is lost on people it seems.
The most unsurprising aspect is people are quite happy for them to literally steal money from them,and give it to their mate's, and applaud them for doing so. |
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?"
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"People inclined to enrich themselves have taken advantage of a terrible situation."
wow I actually agree with you on this one. There's a first time for everything
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?"
Trump already was one.
And I don't see any political aspirations from Musk or Bezos, other than to rule the world. Nor Tierney. They're too busy making money. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I cant find anything about it but they are hardly likely to shout it from the rooftops.
The gmnt have still not revealed where a big chunk of that £80b spent on ppe has gone,last time I looked."
They can't reveal that, they can't even reveal their destination Barnard Castle. Blind. |
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"I cant find anything about it but they are hardly likely to shout it from the rooftops.
The gmnt have still not revealed where a big chunk of that £80b spent on ppe has gone,last time I looked.
They can't reveal that, they can't even reveal their destination Barnard Castle. Blind."
True |
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By *lydeXXXMan
over a year ago
Doncaster |
A source for this information would be good as I can't find anything. There are reported to be 71 billionaires in the UK which is 24 more than pre pandemic but nothing on 171 politicians becoming millionaires.
It was reported that politicians could claim up to 10k to help them work from home, this is on top of the 26k they can already claim for office costs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A source for this information would be good as I can't find anything. There are reported to be 71 billionaires in the UK which is 24 more than pre pandemic but nothing on 171 politicians becoming millionaires.
It was reported that politicians could claim up to 10k to help them work from home, this is on top of the 26k they can already claim for office costs. "
So, thnese 47 billionaires, did they take covid tests? Were they allowed freedom of travel? Asking for a friend. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege. "
Anyone can see changes as they are debated and acts of parliament usually have a lead time so politicians dont have any info that isnt available, history shows that some will use their position for personal gain, the expenses scandal leaves us in no doubt |
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
Between a cock and a soft place |
"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
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What a puzzling critique of a forum post.
Please show me where I stated politicians had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
Please show me where I stated anyone in particular had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Im pretty sure critiquing something that wasn't said doesn't make it though.
Did you conflate my 2 observations and read them as one?
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
Between a cock and a soft place |
"I cant find anything about it but they are hardly likely to shout it from the rooftops.
The gmnt have still not revealed where a big chunk of that £80b spent on ppe has gone,last time I looked.
They can't reveal that, they can't even reveal their destination Barnard Castle. Blind."
Which politician went to Bernard Castle?  |
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
What a puzzling critique of a forum post.
Please show me where I stated politicians had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
Please show me where I stated anyone in particular had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Im pretty sure critiquing something that wasn't said doesn't make it though.
Did you conflate my 2 observations and read them as one?
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Maybe it was the bit where you said property prices had gone through the roof and offered no.pther explanation on how a politician can become a millionaire during a pandemic?
Though if you have any I'm all ears? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege.
Anyone can see changes as they are debated and acts of parliament usually have a lead time so politicians dont have any info that isnt available, history shows that some will use their position for personal gain, the expenses scandal leaves us in no doubt"
That first part simply isn’t true.
Ministers and Junior Ministers work with Civil Servants to design new legislation. They know months (sometimes years) in advance before something is tabled for debate in Parliament. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege.
So only less well off people should become politicians?
Absolutely not! How did you come to that conclusion from what I said? You do know it is perfectly possible to be successful and/or wealthy while not breaking the rules or being underhand right?"
I like your answers when you send them to various threads and you do sou d lihe a very bright and sensible women. However as you know its on our nature unfortunately to break the law. Be greedy. Look after number one etc etc. You only have to see the way some people have behaved over. The last 16 months to see that. Being a politician is not a life time job. They are mostly out to fill their pockets in the position they are in and there is nothing we can do whilst they pull the strings.
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"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege.
So only less well off people should become politicians?
Absolutely not! How did you come to that conclusion from what I said? You do know it is perfectly possible to be successful and/or wealthy while not breaking the rules or being underhand right?
I like your answers when you send them to various threads and you do sou d lihe a very bright and sensible women. However as you know its on our nature unfortunately to break the law. Be greedy. Look after number one etc etc. You only have to see the way some people have behaved over. The last 16 months to see that. Being a politician is not a life time job. They are mostly out to fill their pockets in the position they are in and there is nothing we can do whilst they pull the strings.
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Not voting them in would be a start. |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege.
So only less well off people should become politicians?
Absolutely not! How did you come to that conclusion from what I said? You do know it is perfectly possible to be successful and/or wealthy while not breaking the rules or being underhand right?
I like your answers when you send them to various threads and you do sou d lihe a very bright and sensible women. However as you know its on our nature unfortunately to break the law. Be greedy. Look after number one etc etc. You only have to see the way some people have behaved over. The last 16 months to see that. Being a politician is not a life time job. They are mostly out to fill their pockets in the position they are in and there is nothing we can do whilst they pull the strings.
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While Mrs B is indeed a “bright and sensible woman” generally speaking the posts in the forum are by me, Mr B. I like to think of myself as relatively bright. Can’t comment on whether I count as sensible but likely not seeing as I waste so much time and energy debating stuff like covid and politics on a swinger site!  |
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
Between a cock and a soft place |
"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
What a puzzling critique of a forum post.
Please show me where I stated politicians had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
Please show me where I stated anyone in particular had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Im pretty sure critiquing something that wasn't said doesn't make it though.
Did you conflate my 2 observations and read them as one?
Maybe it was the bit where you said property prices had gone through the roof and offered no.pther explanation on how a politician can become a millionaire during a pandemic?
Though if you have any I'm all ears?"
Again, where did I say politicians had become millionaires by selling property during the pandemic.
Clearly, I didn't.
Did you miss read what I actually said; "With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days" or are you simply miss representing my comment for some reason?
The comment clearly has nothing to do with politicians.
The clues in the phrase "many people", no mention of politicians.
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
What a puzzling critique of a forum post.
Please show me where I stated politicians had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
Please show me where I stated anyone in particular had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Im pretty sure critiquing something that wasn't said doesn't make it though.
Did you conflate my 2 observations and read them as one?
Maybe it was the bit where you said property prices had gone through the roof and offered no.pther explanation on how a politician can become a millionaire during a pandemic?
Though if you have any I'm all ears?
Again, where did I say politicians had become millionaires by selling property during the pandemic.
Clearly, I didn't.
Did you miss read what I actually said; "With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days" or are you simply miss representing my comment for some reason?
The comment clearly has nothing to do with politicians.
The clues in the phrase "many people", no mention of politicians.
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Right..I just got confused where in a topic about politichans becoming millionaires during a pandemic, you used the example of property prices.
So if the claim is true,what is the explanation? |
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
Between a cock and a soft place |
"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
What a puzzling critique of a forum post.
Please show me where I stated politicians had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
Please show me where I stated anyone in particular had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Im pretty sure critiquing something that wasn't said doesn't make it though.
Did you conflate my 2 observations and read them as one?
Maybe it was the bit where you said property prices had gone through the roof and offered no.pther explanation on how a politician can become a millionaire during a pandemic?
Though if you have any I'm all ears?
Again, where did I say politicians had become millionaires by selling property during the pandemic.
Clearly, I didn't.
Did you miss read what I actually said; "With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days" or are you simply miss representing my comment for some reason?
The comment clearly has nothing to do with politicians.
The clues in the phrase "many people", no mention of politicians.
Right..I just got confused where in a topic about politichans becoming millionaires during a pandemic, you used the example of property prices.
So if the claim is true,what is the explanation?"
You didn't get confused, you're smarter than that.
The claim that people have become paper millionaires through rising property prices?
You want an explanation of that?
Really?
Ok. People have become paper millionaires through rising property values. That's about it really. '\/' |
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By *d6869Man
over a year ago
Aberdeen |
"Good business sense. If it has been done legally (standby for incoming) then fair play to them.
That misses the point. Politicians are in a position to define legislation and have prior knowledge of legislative changes and can take action to exploit that (or advise others to). If they worked in financial services that would be called insider trading which is illegal and comes with serious penalties including imprisonment. Politicians can hide behind parliamentary privilege.
Anyone can see changes as they are debated and acts of parliament usually have a lead time so politicians dont have any info that isnt available, history shows that some will use their position for personal gain, the expenses scandal leaves us in no doubt
That first part simply isn’t true.
Ministers and Junior Ministers work with Civil Servants to design new legislation. They know months (sometimes years) in advance before something is tabled for debate in Parliament."
They have a lot of inside knowledge, I bet quite a few have shares in pharmaceutical companies ?? |
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"Have become millionaires since the pandemic began. Thoughts?
With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days.
If the politicians have done it legally and without taking advantage of their position, I see no problem.
*thinks....... I'm in a position to make a million pounds, legally......
No brainer isn't it?
So they have become millionaires through selling property during a worldwide pandemic, when, unless I'm mistaken, no one was moving house?
What a puzzling critique of a forum post.
Please show me where I stated politicians had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
Please show me where I stated anyone in particular had become millionaires by selling property during a worldwide pandemic.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Im pretty sure critiquing something that wasn't said doesn't make it though.
Did you conflate my 2 observations and read them as one?
Maybe it was the bit where you said property prices had gone through the roof and offered no.pther explanation on how a politician can become a millionaire during a pandemic?
Though if you have any I'm all ears?
Again, where did I say politicians had become millionaires by selling property during the pandemic.
Clearly, I didn't.
Did you miss read what I actually said; "With property prices going through the roof it's not hard for many people to become a paper millionaire these days" or are you simply miss representing my comment for some reason?
The comment clearly has nothing to do with politicians.
The clues in the phrase "many people", no mention of politicians.
Right..I just got confused where in a topic about politichans becoming millionaires during a pandemic, you used the example of property prices.
So if the claim is true,what is the explanation?
You didn't get confused, you're smarter than that.
The claim that people have become paper millionaires through rising property prices?
You want an explanation of that?
Really?
Ok. People have become paper millionaires through rising property values. That's about it really. '\/'"
But that doesn't explain why it's a thread specifically about politicians getting richer?
No one is against people making money but public servants using a pandemic to make money is morally and ethically abhorrent. |
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