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Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. |
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By *otsMan
over a year ago
Higham |
It is likely to lessen the severity.
It doesn't stop you catching COVID-19.
Also if you catch it the effects of COVID-19 don't just simply dissappear its not like a cold or flu.
There are for most if not all people that have caught it longer term effects and the scientists are still finding those out memory issues, hear, lung and kidney issues being the most common.
Both UK Gov and CDC (U.S) are saying the same things.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/185-million-to-tackle-long-covid-through-research#:~:text=Long%20COVID%20can%20present%20with,people%20experience%20organ%20damage.
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By *otsMan
over a year ago
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Yes, there's nothing stopping you in recent studies you catching it again. Infact the recent analysis those already had COVID and have had jabs have been detected as having caught the new delta variant.
No neccesarily because their more susceptible, probably due to their activities and exposure. |
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The anti bodies you have gained from the covid-19 infection will protect you for a certain amount of time from another covid-19 infection, but its a variable gap, some have had antibodies for only a couple of weeks, some antibodies for quite a few months, we are still learning.
As for the vaccine it's hoped that it may lesson the severity of the disease and lesson transmission but as above we are still learning and mixed results will occur, there is no 100% answer unfortunately |
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Vaccines help your body to recognise a virus and fight back more quickly.
It doesn’t stop the virus entering your body but it means your body knows what to do if it does. Your body gets rid of the virus fast and you’ll be less ill than you would have been and your chance of dying is vastly reduced.
It’s like if you put a security guard in your living room in case a burglar broke in. The burglar might still break in but the security guard will act immediately so the damage/loss would be reduced.
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By *ddmanMan
over a year ago
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. "
A virus needs to be in you to replicate. It's purpose is to hijack your cells as factories to make more of itself. You need to catch it to detect it.
If it's in you, it'll be infecting cells and replicating.
If it's replicating, it'll be making you ill and potentially transmissible to others.
If you have active antibodies hanging around you can neutralise it a lot faster than if you have to build them from scratch. You may not even notice the infection of the exposure was small enough to be mopped up fast.
If you have the plans for antibodies you can ramp up production of an effective response way faster than someone who has to chuck a bunch of ideas against the wall and see what sticks.
The replication process is flakey by design, it let's the virus gently shift it's shape. Since in molecular biology shape defines behaviour, this can mean antibodies designed to connect to the virus and dispose of it may not do so well in the future. |
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"The anti bodies you have gained from the covid-19 infection will protect you for a certain amount of time from another covid-19 infection, but its a variable gap, some have had antibodies for only a couple of weeks, some antibodies for quite a few months, we are still learning.
As for the vaccine it's hoped that it may lesson the severity of the disease and lesson transmission but as above we are still learning and mixed results will occur, there is no 100% answer unfortunately "
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over a year ago
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"It is likely to lessen the severity.
It doesn't stop you catching COVID-19.
Also if you catch it the effects of COVID-19 don't just simply dissappear its not like a cold or flu.
There are for most if not all people that have caught it longer term effects and the scientists are still finding those out memory issues, hear, lung and kidney issues being the most common.
Both UK Gov and CDC (U.S) are saying the same things.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/185-million-to-tackle-long-covid-through-research#:~:text=Long%20COVID%20can%20present%20with,people%20experience%20organ%20damage.
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2 issues with your post.
Firstly the vaccine does stop most infections (just not all). That is a proven fact. So more often than not it DOES stop you catching Covid.
Secondly it is simply not true to say "most if not all" people have long term effects. It's about 10% of people. Which means the significant majority of people do not have long term effects at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm currently having to isolate as first one teenager, then the second teenager then my wife who has had the virus and also both jabs caught it. I'm testing twice daily and am still negative.
I've had my week in bed with it last year and consequently both jabs but I'm surprised I've got away with it thus far.
Fingers crossed i make it to Saturday so i can return to work.
Get me out of the house filled with zombies.
Its like Resident Evil the computer game. You open a door and there's some half dead creature that's starving hungry |
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over a year ago
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The vaccine is not 100% effective. No vaccine is
Meaning that it doesn't work for 100% of people jabbed.
For some the vaccine will be ineffective and give no protection whatsoever.
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"The vaccine is not 100% effective. No vaccine is
Meaning that it doesn't work for 100% of people jabbed.
For some the vaccine will be ineffective and give no protection whatsoever.
X"
No of course it’s not 100% effective, but some people suggest it offers zero protection at all and merely reduces your symptoms. Whereas I thought it offered some resistance to catching it, albeit not providing 100% immunity |
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Our immune system is a reasonably complex powerhouse that helps to protect us in several ways. We get protection and the equivalent of protection insurance too.
The 2 jabs sequence vaccination programme that most of these are does show that we will generally have a strong immunity 2 or 3 weeks after the 2nd jab. We should have effective antibody levels and ability to counter infection.
They will reduce the number of virus attacks that infect us. This may mean in practice that we have to encounter a much higher load of viral material, before it can infect us or even that several successive encounters with covid virus material is needed, to breach our immune response, compared to an unvaccinated person who succumbs from next to nothing.
The vaccines prompt our immune systems to create a natural immune response. If we subsequently get infected, the real virus will trigger it again. They are also planning vaccine booster treatments, to achieve something that's similar. Antibody levels are easier to check than other aspects of our immunity. 1 of the natural killers of our immune response strength is stress. I encourage everyone to minimise it, for a few weeks after vaccination |
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"The vaccine is not 100% effective. No vaccine is
Meaning that it doesn't work for 100% of people jabbed.
For some the vaccine will be ineffective and give no protection whatsoever.
X
No of course it’s not 100% effective, but some people suggest it offers zero protection at all and merely reduces your symptoms. Whereas I thought it offered some resistance to catching it, albeit not providing 100% immunity "
It would be a tiny minority of people who should get no protection from vaccination, if they hadn't already had infection |
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over a year ago
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I haven’t been vaccinated but I had covid back in March last year. I was part of an antibody trial at work and so I know that my antibodies disappeared five months after they were detected. |
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"Our immune system is a reasonably complex powerhouse that helps to protect us in several ways. We get protection and the equivalent of protection insurance too.
The 2 jabs sequence vaccination programme that most of these are does show that we will generally have a strong immunity 2 or 3 weeks after the 2nd jab. We should have effective antibody levels and ability to counter infection.
They will reduce the number of virus attacks that infect us. This may mean in practice that we have to encounter a much higher load of viral material, before it can infect us or even that several successive encounters with covid virus material is needed, to breach our immune response, compared to an unvaccinated person who succumbs from next to nothing.
The vaccines prompt our immune systems to create a natural immune response. If we subsequently get infected, the real virus will trigger it again. They are also planning vaccine booster treatments, to achieve something that's similar. Antibody levels are easier to check than other aspects of our immunity. 1 of the natural killers of our immune response strength is stress. I encourage everyone to minimise it, for a few weeks after vaccination "
I think that’s how I thought it would work, but I’ve seen so many comments that it doesn’t help you fj not catch it that I was questioning my understanding. Thanks for explaining. |
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Due to the fact that the antibodies are transported in your blood (kind of), you need to actually be infected for them to be able to fight it off in the first place. If the antibodies are effective enough, they will kill the infection almost instantly.
Unfortunately, vaccines don't provide a virus repelling forcefield that prevents the virus from getting close to us... that WOULD be impressive.
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. "
Can I ask why you had an antibody test you mention.
Did someone take bloods.
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over a year ago
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. "
This is not a typical vaccine it is an mRNA injection, a very new and very different form of protection which is where most of the hesitancy stems from.
Before the hard of thinking start screaming "anti vaxer" and "conspiracy theorist" I would start researching actual top world renowned doctors, specialists and go to scientists and see what their views are. You will learn why those injected will still get infected and will always need 2nd, 3rd, 4th shots etc...
For some reason these experts are not allowed or 'covered' in the media and many many people are simply asking why. I would Check out what's happening right now in Spain & France to get a hint of why this is and what is coming here soon. Also again note that even this isn't being covered in our media either.
P.S. Always research by using duckduckgo
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
This is not a typical vaccine it is an mRNA injection, a very new and very different form of protection which is where most of the hesitancy stems from.
Before the hard of thinking start screaming "anti vaxer" and "conspiracy theorist" I would start researching actual top world renowned doctors, specialists and go to scientists and see what their views are. You will learn why those injected will still get infected and will always need 2nd, 3rd, 4th shots etc...
For some reason these experts are not allowed or 'covered' in the media and many many people are simply asking why. I would Check out what's happening right now in Spain & France to get a hint of why this is and what is coming here soon. Also again note that even this isn't being covered in our media either.
P.S. Always research by using duckduckgo
Now waiting for the mob haters to descend lol. "
What's to scream about, you've not named any of these top doctors so we can't verify any of their credentials ourselves.
When other "experts" have been named its turned out that they were not experts and did not work in the field of virology. Indeed one was a psychologist.
So unless you have a link to a paper and a name then it's hard for us to judge.
Most of the links provided have been to you tube commentators which is hardly peer reviewed.
I'm happy to be open minded, that after all is part of the scientific method. But the other parts are also peer reviewed work and work that can be replicated by others.
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. "
Biology is a bit of a in precise science when compared to pure maths or physics.
In maths 1+1=2
But in biology 1 vaccination + 1 human does not equal the same outcome every time.
Don't get me wrong biology is a science and they can be pretty accurate, but the variable in the equation is always going to be the individual human as we are all slightly different and therefore any impacts and side effects will also be different.
In your case you could still catch covid and experience illness, but for many others they may catch it but not really notice.
The vaccination lowers the worst ends of it for most but will not stop people dying or getting severe illness, just reduce the likelihood.
This is clear when comparing the current infection rate to the last time it was this high. The vaccine has lowered the death rate and the hospitalization rate.
We can only hope that as science progresses the vaccines get better with each generation and the side effects less. This is the way medicine has always worked.
The first hiv drugs did a job but are no were near as good as they are now. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
Can I ask why you had an antibody test you mention.
Did someone take bloods.
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Yeah I’m part of a trial. I give blood and swabs each month. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
Can I ask why you had an antibody test you mention.
Did someone take bloods.
Yeah I’m part of a trial. I give blood and swabs each month. "
Surely, the institution conducting the trial would have explained all and answered your queries before the onset of the trial.
Well done for volunteering to be part of the trial.
I'm sure they would be happy to answer your questions.
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
Can I ask why you had an antibody test you mention.
Did someone take bloods.
Yeah I’m part of a trial. I give blood and swabs each month.
Surely, the institution conducting the trial would have explained all and answered your queries before the onset of the trial.
Well done for volunteering to be part of the trial.
I'm sure they would be happy to answer your questions.
Probably better than a swinging site forum. "
I don’t have any questions about the trial, thanks. No need for the condescending reply. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. "
There is no evidence Whatsoever that the symptoms are less if jabbed. They made this up when people started getting covid after being jabbed to justify others to get jabbed. At first it was to St you getting covid, then to lesson symptoms. Most people I speak to said the covid is worse after their jabs (people who had it pre jab)
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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"Vaccines help your body to recognise a virus and fight back more quickly.
It doesn’t stop the virus entering your body but it means your body knows what to do if it does. Your body gets rid of the virus fast and you’ll be less ill than you would have been and your chance of dying is vastly reduced.
It’s like if you put a security guard in your living room in case a burglar broke in. The burglar might still break in but the security guard will act immediately so the damage/loss would be reduced.
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I think the security guard is an accomplice of the burglar...
That's what happens in lots of films .
Could I change the security guard for a dirty great big starving Alsatian please... |
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over a year ago
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"It is likely to lessen the severity.
It doesn't stop you catching COVID-19.
Also if you catch it the effects of COVID-19 don't just simply dissappear its not like a cold or flu.
There are for most if not all people that have caught it longer term effects and the scientists are still finding those out memory issues, hear, lung and kidney issues being the most common.
Both UK Gov and CDC (U.S) are saying the same things.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/185-million-to-tackle-long-covid-through-research#:~:text=Long%20COVID%20can%20present%20with,people%20experience%20organ%20damage.
2 issues with your post.
Firstly the vaccine does stop most infections (just not all). That is a proven fact. So more often than not it DOES stop you catching Covid.
Secondly it is simply not true to say "most if not all" people have long term effects. It's about 10% of people. Which means the significant majority of people do not have long term effects at all."
I had no symptoms after a few weeks...the double pneumonia part took a bit longer for my lungs to be totally clear (6-8 weeks) but by then I was already back up n running. Had 2 jobs with no side effects since. Masks are in the bin! |
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How are you feeling now OP?
It's healthy to ask questions and want answers.
Hope you are on the mend.
I would say this, I had covid last year before the vaccine came out and I can only think that anything that helps reduce the symptoms of how I was can only be a good thing.
What I'm saying is how much worse do you think you may have been without being vaccinated? |
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"It is likely to lessen the severity.
It doesn't stop you catching COVID-19.
Also if you catch it the effects of COVID-19 don't just simply dissappear its not like a cold or flu.
There are for most if not all people that have caught it longer term effects and the scientists are still finding those out memory issues, hear, lung and kidney issues being the most common.
Both UK Gov and CDC (U.S) are saying the same things.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/185-million-to-tackle-long-covid-through-research#:~:text=Long%20COVID%20can%20present%20with,people%20experience%20organ%20damage.
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So what’s the point in vaccinations?? Should it even be called a vaccination if you can still catch it?!?
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"It is likely to lessen the severity.
It doesn't stop you catching COVID-19.
Also if you catch it the effects of COVID-19 don't just simply dissappear its not like a cold or flu.
There are for most if not all people that have caught it longer term effects and the scientists are still finding those out memory issues, hear, lung and kidney issues being the most common.
Both UK Gov and CDC (U.S) are saying the same things.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/185-million-to-tackle-long-covid-through-research#:~:text=Long%20COVID%20can%20present%20with,people%20experience%20organ%20damage.
So what’s the point in vaccinations?? Should it even be called a vaccination if you can still catch it?!?
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Of course it should I think you are misunderstanding what a vaccine is and what it does. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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There is no evidence Whatsoever that the symptoms are less if jabbed. They made this up when people started getting covid after being jabbed to justify others to get jabbed. At first it was to St you getting covid, then to lesson symptoms. Most people I speak to said the covid is worse after their jabs (people who had it pre jab)
Its all about money. It always will be. See who's getting rich from it. "
Actually… there is
The vaccine primary purpose is to mitigate or reduce the symptoms that you have.. basically it doesn’t stop you from getting it.. but for most people it stops you from getting it severely enough to keep you from being in a hospital bed! … and funny enough in the government slides shown at yesterday’s press briefing.. the vaccine works slightly better at doing that against the delta variant that it did against the original alpha variant
As for whether you can catch it again… as other’s have said.. if you have fought it then you will have some antibodies…. The stronger you had to fight it, the more antibodies you would have.. but we don’t know how long the antibodies last |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful. "
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
Get well soon x"
So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
Get well soon x
So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate. "
Are you being sarcastic? If the mortality rate was 7% one in 12 would die I think pretty much everyone who was not a total idiot would have the vaccine. The actual mortality rate in the uk is around 2 and half percent and dropping all the time as we understand better treatments and more younger people are getting ill. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
Get well soon x
So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate.
Are you being sarcastic? If the mortality rate was 7% one in 12 would die I think pretty much everyone who was not a total idiot would have the vaccine. The actual mortality rate in the uk is around 2 and half percent and dropping all the time as we understand better treatments and more younger people are getting ill."
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
Get well soon x
So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate.
Are you being sarcastic? If the mortality rate was 7% one in 12 would die I think pretty much everyone who was not a total idiot would have the vaccine. The actual mortality rate in the uk is around 2 and half percent and dropping all the time as we understand better treatments and more younger people are getting ill.
2 and a half percent for what age group?"
That is the average for all age groups. Obviously a lot higher if older and a lot lower if you are younger. For example the death rate for under 14s is 2 in a million and hospitalization around 1 in 50000. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
Get well soon x
So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate.
Are you being sarcastic? If the mortality rate was 7% one in 12 would die I think pretty much everyone who was not a total idiot would have the vaccine. The actual mortality rate in the uk is around 2 and half percent and dropping all the time as we understand better treatments and more younger people are getting ill.
2 and a half percent for what age group?
That is the average for all age groups. Obviously a lot higher if older and a lot lower if you are younger. For example the death rate for under 14s is 2 in a million and hospitalization around 1 in 50000. "
Ok thanks!..it's all about accurate statistics.
And I'm guessing in the under 14s there is a difference between different underlying health issues such as weight. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
No you’re misinformed.
The vaccine gives you a natural resistance, the infection will also increase that.
You’re unlucky to have caught it but also lucky in the fact that your symptoms are likely less severe than they would have been without it.
Hopefully you’ll feel better in a few days, it is incredibly rare to catch another strain of covid within 6 months and all indications so far suggest you’ll be pretty much immune for a year plus.
Get well soon x
So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate.
Are you being sarcastic? If the mortality rate was 7% one in 12 would die I think pretty much everyone who was not a total idiot would have the vaccine. The actual mortality rate in the uk is around 2 and half percent and dropping all the time as we understand better treatments and more younger people are getting ill.
2 and a half percent for what age group?
That is the average for all age groups. Obviously a lot higher if older and a lot lower if you are younger. For example the death rate for under 14s is 2 in a million and hospitalization around 1 in 50000.
Ok thanks!..it's all about accurate statistics.
And I'm guessing in the under 14s there is a difference between different underlying health issues such as weight."
Underlying Health issues affect every age group but once people are in their 40s and 50s not that many people have no underlying health issues. |
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Well I’m on day 16 and feeling like I’ve turned the corner and I’m starting to feel better. Day 8-12 were the worst.
I still have a cough and no smell, and I sleep a lot, but my temp has gone and I’m definitely perking up.
It’s made me very reluctant to want to get back out and mingle because I’ve never been so ill and I don’t ever want to feel like that again if I can help it. So I’ll be avoiding crowds and being close to people for sure. |
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"Please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question, I’m really poorly with Covid so it could addling my brain!
So I have had both my jabs. My understanding of how they worked was that they allow your body to create antibodies which means you’re less likely to catch covid. I’ve had an antibody test and they’re present so I was expecting some protection.
I’ve read loads of posts and comments saying that the jabs give you no protection against catching it actually, just make your symptoms less severe.
So am I right in thinking that when I’m finally over this bout of Covid (which seems never ending) I might just pick it straight back up again? If antibodies give you no resistance then i could just get it again and again?
If that’s the case there’s a strong chance I’m never leaving my house again because having this is awful.
Can I ask why you had an antibody test you mention.
Did someone take bloods.
Yeah I’m part of a trial. I give blood and swabs each month.
Surely, the institution conducting the trial would have explained all and answered your queries before the onset of the trial.
Well done for volunteering to be part of the trial.
I'm sure they would be happy to answer your questions.
Probably better than a swinging site forum.
I don’t have any questions about the trial, thanks. No need for the condescending reply. "
Wasn't meant to be condescending.
It was a straight forward, honest reply.
Your post states you are poorly and asking questions regarding the virus.
You also state you are part of a trial, which I congratulated you for joining, I do mean that too.
My answer was if you have questions about either your condition or the virus in general it would be best to consult the medics who are currently caring for you or the professionals conducting the trial,not a swingers site forum.
Sorry, if you feel it condescending, wasn't meant to be but I stick by it.
Hope you are on the mend soon.
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By *ubal1Man
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"Vaccines help your body to recognise a virus and fight back more quickly.
It doesn’t stop the virus entering your body but it means your body knows what to do if it does. Your body gets rid of the virus fast and you’ll be less ill than you would have been and your chance of dying is vastly reduced.
It’s like if you put a security guard in your living room in case a burglar broke in. The burglar might still break in but the security guard will act immediately so the damage/loss would be reduced.
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"So if your fit and healthy with a naturally strong immune system already what’s the purpose of getting the vaccine? The virus only has a 7% mortality rate. "
Because you would have zero immunity to catching the virus and passing it on to others. And at your age I’d worry less about death and more about life limiting damage and effects from the virus which are ridiculously prevalent in your age category.
On the plus side we (the majority) can celebrate a small victory in the fact that we’ll not have to share a club, major event or indeed a plane with someone exhibiting such a lack of basic intelligence come September... thank goodness!
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