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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about? |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think we'll be told to mind our own business and work on our immune system if we tried.
(I have a boosted immune system. Also known as autoimmune disease)"
I see, it is everyones problem but the dirty so and so's that can't be bothered to wash their hands. Are these people hard to deal with, easier to let them get on with it? |
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"I think we'll be told to mind our own business and work on our immune system if we tried.
(I have a boosted immune system. Also known as autoimmune disease)
I see, it is everyones problem but the dirty so and so's that can't be bothered to wash their hands. Are these people hard to deal with, easier to let them get on with it? "
I've got no idea. But it seems to be the standard answer, you can't tell me what to do. |
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People, though, are somewhat naturally easily influenced into tribal behaviour - especially when heavily emotionally charged, such as the duress of feeling in danger. Whilst many haven't lossed loved ones, many others have - some of them many. When caught up with desperately trying to cling to rationality, whilst not managing to be with loved ones who pass away, it takes exceptional levels of inner strength to remain calmer and open to others, who may be viewed as vulnerable to similar fates etc.
It's a forum. You will get facts, opinions, nonsense and a lot more, including the emotional sensitivities of the people who you share this with. Aiming to let others leave here in a better informed and more positive mindset is a great, though tough challenge. Most of us will support you when you do your best.  |
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over a year ago
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Would be interesting to hear your views on my lifestyle, OP. Am I someone you are referring to?
I shower daily, wash my hands before eating and after using the bathroom etc.
I cover my face if I cough or sneeze.
If I feel ill or have a cough / sneeze I will stay at home.
I've had both my jabs.
But.....
I could count on my fingers the amount of time that I've used sanitizer since this pandemic started (unless expressly had it squirted into my hand at a venue).
I wear masks only when absolutely mandated legally and I would never wear one through choice (Unless I had to go into an enclosed space whilst Ill).
I've never cleaned a trolley, Quarantined a parcel or washed my shopping.
I'm happy going to pubs. To gigs. To sports events on a packed football terrace.
By living normally, without the overkill narrative of fear I'm happy and confident that my immune system will be a damned site better equipped to deal with the usual bugs, colds, flu and even Covid than those artificially strangulating theirs through living in an artificially sterile environment.
I have one life and won't live it in fear. |
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about? "
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
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Shaming unhygienic practices! Are you really that liberal left that anyone can do anything, regardless? Covering your nose or mouth when coughing, not spitting, washing my hands after going to the toilet and before I eat food is not going over the top or is it thorough and if you are you saying it is I am shocked.
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"Would be interesting to hear your views on my lifestyle, OP. Am I someone you are referring to?
I shower daily, wash my hands before eating and after using the bathroom etc.
I cover my face if I cough or sneeze.
If I feel ill or have a cough / sneeze I will stay at home.
I've had both my jabs.
But.....
I could count on my fingers the amount of time that I've used sanitizer since this pandemic started (unless expressly had it squirted into my hand at a venue).
I wear masks only when absolutely mandated legally and I would never wear one through choice (Unless I had to go into an enclosed space whilst Ill).
I've never cleaned a trolley, Quarantined a parcel or washed my shopping.
I'm happy going to pubs. To gigs. To sports events on a packed football terrace.
By living normally, without the overkill narrative of fear I'm happy and confident that my immune system will be a damned site better equipped to deal with the usual bugs, colds, flu and even Covid than those artificially strangulating theirs through living in an artificially sterile environment.
I have one life and won't live it in fear."
I'm not referring to you, you are saying you do all the things I mentioned.... The parts you added that you don't do I did not mention, you did. I did not mention masks, sanitiser, pubs, gigs or parcels
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would be interesting to hear your views on my lifestyle, OP. Am I someone you are referring to?
I shower daily, wash my hands before eating and after using the bathroom etc.
I cover my face if I cough or sneeze.
If I feel ill or have a cough / sneeze I will stay at home.
I've had both my jabs.
But.....
I could count on my fingers the amount of time that I've used sanitizer since this pandemic started (unless expressly had it squirted into my hand at a venue).
I wear masks only when absolutely mandated legally and I would never wear one through choice (Unless I had to go into an enclosed space whilst Ill).
I've never cleaned a trolley, Quarantined a parcel or washed my shopping.
I'm happy going to pubs. To gigs. To sports events on a packed football terrace.
By living normally, without the overkill narrative of fear I'm happy and confident that my immune system will be a damned site better equipped to deal with the usual bugs, colds, flu and even Covid than those artificially strangulating theirs through living in an artificially sterile environment.
I have one life and won't live it in fear.
I'm not referring to you, you are saying you do all the things I mentioned.... The parts you added that you don't do I did not mention, you did. I did not mention masks, sanitiser, pubs, gigs or parcels
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Yeah, I guess I was interested in your take on those other things.
I probably worded it badly - in my mind, what you were saying was simple common sense and decency and the point I was trying to make was I believe many people have gone well over the top, to the detriment of their own immune systems.
The sad fact is that many of the people you describe with properly foul habits will probably have amongst the strongest immune systems of us all.... |
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
Shaming unhygienic practices! Are you really that liberal left that anyone can do anything, regardless? Covering your nose or mouth when coughing, not spitting, washing my hands after going to the toilet and before I eat food is not going over the top or is it thorough and if you are you saying it is I am shocked.
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Oh dear.
Please explain the liberal left comment?
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about? "
I've said this since the start. It's only Basic hygiene like we were taught as kids. No idea why people think it's OK to cough and sneeze over other people or go out amongst others while they are ill. Bemuses me why we need to have posters telling us how to wash our hands properly. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
Shaming unhygienic practices! Are you really that liberal left that anyone can do anything, regardless? Covering your nose or mouth when coughing, not spitting, washing my hands after going to the toilet and before I eat food is not going over the top or is it thorough and if you are you saying it is I am shocked.
Oh dear.
Please explain the liberal left comment?
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You need an explanation? |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
I've said this since the start. It's only Basic hygiene like we were taught as kids. No idea why people think it's OK to cough and sneeze over other people or go out amongst others while they are ill. Bemuses me why we need to have posters telling us how to wash our hands properly. "
If you are referring to me as the poster who is telling you how to wash your hands, you are mistaken... I have not advised anyone on anything I asked if people had seen an uplift in hygiene standards and would better hygiene reduce the spread of covid. |
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
Shaming unhygienic practices! Are you really that liberal left that anyone can do anything, regardless? Covering your nose or mouth when coughing, not spitting, washing my hands after going to the toilet and before I eat food is not going over the top or is it thorough and if you are you saying it is I am shocked.
Oh dear.
Please explain the liberal left comment?
You need an explanation? "
You are clearly having dig at liberals suggesting they are unclean and the source of the issue.
Your targeting a specific group with no factual evidence or proof.
So yes please give us an explanation. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
Shaming unhygienic practices! Are you really that liberal left that anyone can do anything, regardless? Covering your nose or mouth when coughing, not spitting, washing my hands after going to the toilet and before I eat food is not going over the top or is it thorough and if you are you saying it is I am shocked.
Oh dear.
Please explain the liberal left comment?
You need an explanation?
You are clearly having dig at liberals suggesting they are unclean and the source of the issue.
Your targeting a specific group with no factual evidence or proof.
So yes please give us an explanation. "
It was not aimed at a group, it was aimed at you comment |
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
So we are onto hygiene shaming now.
I don't actually belive you are that thorough OP.
Shaming unhygienic practices! Are you really that liberal left that anyone can do anything, regardless? Covering your nose or mouth when coughing, not spitting, washing my hands after going to the toilet and before I eat food is not going over the top or is it thorough and if you are you saying it is I am shocked.
Oh dear.
Please explain the liberal left comment?
You need an explanation?
You are clearly having dig at liberals suggesting they are unclean and the source of the issue.
Your targeting a specific group with no factual evidence or proof.
So yes please give us an explanation.
It was not aimed at a group, it was aimed at you comment"
So give me an explanation. |
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
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Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is. |
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"All this talk of the vaccinated not vaccinated, followed up with pseudo experience of vaccines and medical knowledge is not going to resolve or change anyones minds on the whys or wherefores of covid-19 vaccines.
Is it time to change the target warriors and come together to challenge the unhygienic amongst us? The ones who don't wash their hands, sneeze and cough openly, spit on the ground the human walking petri dishes! After all that has gone on I would have thought we (humans) may have become a cleaner version of the old us. I have not seen evidence of this on my travels, have you? Would better hygiene standards help to slow the spread of covid, you know, the simple stuff we all should know about?
I've said this since the start. It's only Basic hygiene like we were taught as kids. No idea why people think it's OK to cough and sneeze over other people or go out amongst others while they are ill. Bemuses me why we need to have posters telling us how to wash our hands properly.
If you are referring to me as the poster who is telling you how to wash your hands, you are mistaken... I have not advised anyone on anything I asked if people had seen an uplift in hygiene standards and would better hygiene reduce the spread of covid."
Haha no... Poster as in sheet of paper,.with writing on it and laminated or framed in shops, loos, Dr's, et al.... The beauty of language. |
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is."
I questioned him on his comment.
He asked if I wanted an explination.
I said yes. He failed to give me one. So if I am wrong, I've not been given a reason why.
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"Would be interesting to hear your views on my lifestyle, OP. Am I someone you are referring to?
I shower daily, wash my hands before eating and after using the bathroom etc.
I cover my face if I cough or sneeze.
If I feel ill or have a cough / sneeze I will stay at home.
I've had both my jabs.
But.....
I could count on my fingers the amount of time that I've used sanitizer since this pandemic started (unless expressly had it squirted into my hand at a venue).
I wear masks only when absolutely mandated legally and I would never wear one through choice (Unless I had to go into an enclosed space whilst Ill).
I've never cleaned a trolley, Quarantined a parcel or washed my shopping.
I'm happy going to pubs. To gigs. To sports events on a packed football terrace.
By living normally, without the overkill narrative of fear I'm happy and confident that my immune system will be a damned site better equipped to deal with the usual bugs, colds, flu and even Covid than those artificially strangulating theirs through living in an artificially sterile environment.
I have one life and won't live it in fear."
well done iam same alough did not want chemicals jabbed into my body but take immune boost vit e d c and selerium i use my own sanitizer as how many people touch the ones in shops |
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is.
I questioned him on his comment.
He asked if I wanted an explination.
I said yes. He failed to give me one. So if I am wrong, I've not been given a reason why.
I questioned your need for an explanation, I didn't and wont offer you one."
I'd be inclined to examine the political proclivities of those against vaccination and mitigation. I don't think your "liberal" description is accurate. |
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I think basic common sense and basic hygiene would go a long way to reducing infections. But as a nation we don't seem a) very strong on recognising the value of and b) being in the habit of executing either of those life skills... And c) responding positively when anyone tries to remind us of those very basic facts |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is.
I questioned him on his comment.
He asked if I wanted an explination.
I said yes. He failed to give me one. So if I am wrong, I've not been given a reason why.
I questioned your need for an explanation, I didn't and wont offer you one.
I'd be inclined to examine the political proclivities of those against vaccination and mitigation. I don't think your "liberal" description is accurate."
I felt it was apt for the particular comment, I'm certainly not wrapping everything into a one size fits all here |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
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"I think basic common sense and basic hygiene would go a long way to reducing infections. But as a nation we don't seem a) very strong on recognising the value of and b) being in the habit of executing either of those life skills... And c) responding positively when anyone tries to remind us of those very basic facts "
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is.
I questioned him on his comment.
He asked if I wanted an explination.
I said yes. He failed to give me one. So if I am wrong, I've not been given a reason why.
I questioned your need for an explanation, I didn't and wont offer you one.
I'd be inclined to examine the political proclivities of those against vaccination and mitigation. I don't think your "liberal" description is accurate.
I felt it was apt for the particular comment, I'm certainly not wrapping everything into a one size fits all here"
Have a closer look at the politics of those screaming about basic measures. If they're liberal I'm the Queen of England. |
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I would agree the "liberal" comment you made has no relevance to the subject.
I can see where the guy was coming from that called you out.
I'm liberal and I'm very OCD about cleanliness and my personal hygiene. |
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is.
I questioned him on his comment.
He asked if I wanted an explination.
I said yes. He failed to give me one. So if I am wrong, I've not been given a reason why.
I questioned your need for an explanation, I didn't and wont offer you one.
I'd be inclined to examine the political proclivities of those against vaccination and mitigation. I don't think your "liberal" description is accurate.
I felt it was apt for the particular comment, I'm certainly not wrapping everything into a one size fits all here
Have a closer look at the politics of those screaming about basic measures. If they're liberal I'm the Queen of England."
Doffs cap... "your majesty" |
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So give me an explanation.
I'm not going to rise to your puerile attempt to score points, you know exactly what I mean.
Sorry but that's a poor excuse for bowing out.
Mate, you need to re-read the whole thread. You've got this one round your neck.
He's really not saying what you think he is.
I questioned him on his comment.
He asked if I wanted an explination.
I said yes. He failed to give me one. So if I am wrong, I've not been given a reason why.
I questioned your need for an explanation, I didn't and wont offer you one.
I'd be inclined to examine the political proclivities of those against vaccination and mitigation. I don't think your "liberal" description is accurate.
I felt it was apt for the particular comment, I'm certainly not wrapping everything into a one size fits all here
Have a closer look at the politics of those screaming about basic measures. If they're liberal I'm the Queen of England.
Doffs cap... "your majesty" "
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