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By *early8 OP Man
over a year ago
Rochdale |
I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way |
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
Not sure what you are getting at, have had my jabs, haven’t caught Covid, yet. Most of those I know to be jabbed have not caught Covid, yet. |
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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago
trouble most likely, or creating it :) |
"Just wondering anyone els experience that only people I know who are Ill are people who are jabbed dad sister brother and we all work together "
more people have been vaccinated than people that haven't been....so that makes sense.
I had covid in Nov/Dec 2019.... I've not had it since,despite being in close contact numerous times. I have been triple vaccinated.. First two astra zenica, last one pfzier |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just wondering anyone els experience that only people I know who are Ill are people who are jabbed dad sister brother and we all work together "
Had it twice.. had it the Christmas just before it was announced and then the Christmas after that... been double jabbed and not had it since |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The only people that I know have been seriously awith cove it to the point they've needed hospitalisation where before we had the vaccines. Since we have had the vaccines I haven't known anybody need hospitalisation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've been in a car crash and not died before the Government said we had to wear seatbelts. Everyone I know who's died in a road traffic incident wore seatbelts  |
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"Lol at all those that "had" Covid before it was a thing, (and before there were tests).
You had a cold. Maybe the flu. You didn't have Covid."
How would you know that?
Clearly there was covid around before tests otherwise why and what would they be testing for? If nobody had covid before the test, why was there a test? |
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
The government didn't name it. It was 'named' by the WHO not a government |
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Probability is relevant.
The numbers of vaccinated people are in the high tens of millions, some without the booster. Of the smaller minority holding out against the safer protection of vaccines, some will have been infected, others not.
OP - you may be alluding to a fallacy that vaccines are of no benefit. When you, yourself have benefitted from the protection of vaccines. Others would have benefitted more if people like you had been fully vaccinated. |
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"Lol at all those that "had" Covid before it was a thing, (and before there were tests).
You had a cold. Maybe the flu. You didn't have Covid."
Covid existed in 2019,the uk did not announce it until march 2020, it is highly probable that the op indeed did catch it in that time before it was announced in the uk |
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"Lol at all those that "had" Covid before it was a thing, (and before there were tests).
You had a cold. Maybe the flu. You didn't have Covid.
Covid existed in 2019,the uk did not announce it until march 2020, it is highly probable that the op indeed did catch it in that time before it was announced in the uk "
I caught it in early Feb 2020, there was the world military games in wuhan in Oct 2019 and looking through the Web, there was reports of people attending with covid symptoms back then, and returning back to their countries or bases around the globe. |
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
You "THINK" that you had covid. You have no way of knowing for sure.
If you did have it before it really became known... you are probably singlehandedly responsible for the outbreak in tis country.
BUT any immunity that you might have developed back then, is likely to have gone by now. Certainly science has shown us that the immunity starts to fade in as little as 10 weeks.
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"I had it in 2018 dammit, couldn't get out of bed for a week and could hardly breathe, it took six weeks to recover"
I had a relative have a series of strokes. Had never had strokes before. I'm told it couldn't have been Covid. But doctors don't know anything!
I'm so glad they died in 2011, not to see the abomination unto God that these vaccines wrought upon the world. So many strokes. |
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"Just wondering anyone els experience that only people I know who are Ill are people who are jabbed dad sister brother and we all work together "
As you are the common denominator maybe you should lock yourself away to protect your family and friends.
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Apparently one of the early symptoms of the omicron variant is hoarseness / sore throat so by the logic of some posters here its possible that the virus could have been around, well ever since those symptoms in humans. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I had it in 2018 dammit, couldn't get out of bed for a week and could hardly breathe, it took six weeks to recover
I had a relative have a series of strokes. Had never had strokes before. I'm told it couldn't have been Covid. But doctors don't know anything!
I'm so glad they died in 2011, not to see the abomination unto God that these vaccines wrought upon the world. So many strokes."
You mentioned god and an abomination 
Lost your argument right there  |
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"I had it in 2018 dammit, couldn't get out of bed for a week and could hardly breathe, it took six weeks to recover
I had a relative have a series of strokes. Had never had strokes before. I'm told it couldn't have been Covid. But doctors don't know anything!
I'm so glad they died in 2011, not to see the abomination unto God that these vaccines wrought upon the world. So many strokes.
You mentioned god and an abomination
Lost your argument right there "
To the extent anyone thinks I was making a serious argument, no, I don't think my relative who died a decade ago had strokes because of the Covid vaccine  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
No hat here, and I fully get what you are saying.
I remember the time around Christmas 2019 and Jan 2020, when many of my work colleagues were suffering from what they described as "the worst cold ever, you really don't want to catch this!"
Of course, it might just have been a bad cold and indeed it certainly was a time before Covid had become headline news.
However, according to the WHO website, as early as 10 January 2020, the WHO published a comprehensive package of guidance documents for countries, covering topics related to the management of an outbreak of a new disease.
By February half term, 2020, when ski fans were returning from the Alps along with Covid, myself and my work colleagues were wondering if this new Coronavirus might, just might, have been the same "flu" which some of us had experienced earlier.
Also, according to the WHO website, 31 Dec 2019
WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lol at all those that "had" Covid before it was a thing, (and before there were tests).
You had a cold. Maybe the flu. You didn't have Covid.
How do you know that?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Speaking for myself from my own experience....
I do have some time for the conspiracy theories. Ancient civilisations and all that. Different technologies, yes. Slithering reptoids no. The world is NOT flat.
As pointed out above, an illness etc. has to be in circulation for some time before it is given a name. I stick by my comments above above.
Some interesting points being made in this thread.
Maybe the OP should organise a social? I'd be happy to attend. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought diseases had to be around for someone to want to name them?
Unless the WHO is part of the conspiracy and unleashed it on a specific date with it's already decided name?"
If there is a conspiracy afoot about this whole covid thing, then it is either a multi governmental coverup or it is mass de-population.
I checked out the population of the world today compared with 12 month ago.
I think I know the truth - but would that make me a conspiracy theorist if I knew the truth?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way
No hat here, and I fully get what you are saying.
I remember the time around Christmas 2019 and Jan 2020, when many of my work colleagues were suffering from what they described as "the worst cold ever, you really don't want to catch this!"
Of course, it might just have been a bad cold and indeed it certainly was a time before Covid had become headline news.
However, according to the WHO website, as early as 10 January 2020, the WHO published a comprehensive package of guidance documents for countries, covering topics related to the management of an outbreak of a new disease.
By February half term, 2020, when ski fans were returning from the Alps along with Covid, myself and my work colleagues were wondering if this new Coronavirus might, just might, have been the same "flu" which some of us had experienced earlier.
Also, according to the WHO website, 31 Dec 2019
WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan
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it's interesting how many people can hold the idea that both it existed in November (and earlier) and yet it all came from Wuhan (because that is where the official patient zero is ...) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way
No hat here, and I fully get what you are saying.
I remember the time around Christmas 2019 and Jan 2020, when many of my work colleagues were suffering from what they described as "the worst cold ever, you really don't want to catch this!"
Of course, it might just have been a bad cold and indeed it certainly was a time before Covid had become headline news.
However, according to the WHO website, as early as 10 January 2020, the WHO published a comprehensive package of guidance documents for countries, covering topics related to the management of an outbreak of a new disease.
By February half term, 2020, when ski fans were returning from the Alps along with Covid, myself and my work colleagues were wondering if this new Coronavirus might, just might, have been the same "flu" which some of us had experienced earlier.
Also, according to the WHO website, 31 Dec 2019
WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan
it's interesting how many people can hold the idea that both it existed in November (and earlier) and yet it all came from Wuhan (because that is where the official patient zero is ...)"
Given that an organisation as large as the WHO would require quite some time to compile both information and facts on some new, world threatening disease, it might be reasonable for the WHO to release information on 31 December (the month ending) about the as yet unnamed covid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way
No hat here, and I fully get what you are saying.
I remember the time around Christmas 2019 and Jan 2020, when many of my work colleagues were suffering from what they described as "the worst cold ever, you really don't want to catch this!"
Of course, it might just have been a bad cold and indeed it certainly was a time before Covid had become headline news.
However, according to the WHO website, as early as 10 January 2020, the WHO published a comprehensive package of guidance documents for countries, covering topics related to the management of an outbreak of a new disease.
By February half term, 2020, when ski fans were returning from the Alps along with Covid, myself and my work colleagues were wondering if this new Coronavirus might, just might, have been the same "flu" which some of us had experienced earlier.
Also, according to the WHO website, 31 Dec 2019
WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan
it's interesting how many people can hold the idea that both it existed in November (and earlier) and yet it all came from Wuhan (because that is where the official patient zero is ...)
Given that an organisation as large as the WHO would require quite some time to compile both information and facts on some new, world threatening disease, it might be reasonable for the WHO to release information on 31 December (the month ending) about the as yet unnamed covid"
I don't follow your point. I'm not talking about the date fo a report, but when cases are being claimed to have happened (and where). How can it be Wuhan in December and also earlier ? (I've seen claims of November and earlier before). |
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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago
trouble most likely, or creating it :) |
actually no. I had covid. Proven by me not being able to test the vaccine as already had antibodies.
I'd been in Milan and other places in Italy in late 2019...
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/coronavirus-italy-covid-19-pandemic-europe-date-antibodies-study/
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By *L2021Couple
over a year ago
manchester |
"Just wondering anyone els experience that only people I know who are Ill are people who are jabbed dad sister brother and we all work together "
Yes totally everyone I know who is jabbed is testing positive at minute |
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By *irthking17Man
over a year ago
Ayrshrie/Edinburgh/London |
"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
See when they make a punctuation vaccination, you should be first in line! |
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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago
In my happy place |
"I had it in 2018 dammit, couldn't get out of bed for a week and could hardly breathe, it took six weeks to recover
I had a relative have a series of strokes. Had never had strokes before. I'm told it couldn't have been Covid. But doctors don't know anything!
I'm so glad they died in 2011, not to see the abomination unto God that these vaccines wrought upon the world. So many strokes."
Oh dear... Deluded
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I went for my booster on the 18th of December, had a clear LFT test that morning.
Come the morning of the 20th, did another LFT test and got a positive result, PCR confirmed it and had to self isolate over Christmas.
All I can say, the vaccinations I had (not counting the booster as it wouldn’t have kicked in) saved me suffering from serious symptoms (normally if I get a cold or flu it knocks me for six), other than not being able to keep warm for a few days and muscle aches, I was fine.
On another point, from chatting to people that I drink with in the pub, a few of us came down with it at the same time, we think we caught it off an anti vaccination/ covid denial bloke that drinks in the pub. It turns out that he wasn’t feeling well and decided to do an LFT on the Wednesday, got a positive result but still went down the pub and put us all at risk (we get a lot of older people drinking in there).
The landlord found out and barred him for the isolation period, only for him to go and start drinking in another pub up the road (whilst telling everyone that he’s been barred for not being vaccinated )
What chance do we stand of controlling this pandemic, when we have people like this running round. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"actually no. I had covid. Proven by me not being able to test the vaccine as already had antibodies.
I'd been in Milan and other places in Italy in late 2019...
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/coronavirus-italy-covid-19-pandemic-europe-date-antibodies-study/
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Cali IS a reliable poster. |
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
Not too sure what you are getting at.
You were ill before Covid was named.
You could have contracted a cold, a chest infection, flu or anything in between.
If it was a cold then the rest of your statement tends to fall apart.
Hope you stay well. |
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"Ok mate couldnt smell shit or taste but ok whatever you say
You do know that those symptoms were around long before Covid, right? Research it. the common cold is pretty common."
And the most common, common cold is a coronavirus! |
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"I had it in 2018 dammit, couldn't get out of bed for a week and could hardly breathe, it took six weeks to recover
I had a relative have a series of strokes. Had never had strokes before. I'm told it couldn't have been Covid. But doctors don't know anything!
I'm so glad they died in 2011, not to see the abomination unto God that these vaccines wrought upon the world. So many strokes.
You mentioned god and an abomination
Lost your argument right there
To the extent anyone thinks I was making a serious argument, no, I don't think my relative who died a decade ago had strokes because of the Covid vaccine "
Nor has anyone else as the number of people who had post vax strokes is exactly the same as the number expected generally in the population. Absolutely no causal link! |
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"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way
No hat here, and I fully get what you are saying.
I remember the time around Christmas 2019 and Jan 2020, when many of my work colleagues were suffering from what they described as "the worst cold ever, you really don't want to catch this!"
Of course, it might just have been a bad cold and indeed it certainly was a time before Covid had become headline news.
However, according to the WHO website, as early as 10 January 2020, the WHO published a comprehensive package of guidance documents for countries, covering topics related to the management of an outbreak of a new disease.
By February half term, 2020, when ski fans were returning from the Alps along with Covid, myself and my work colleagues were wondering if this new Coronavirus might, just might, have been the same "flu" which some of us had experienced earlier.
Also, according to the WHO website, 31 Dec 2019
WHO’s Country Office in the People’s Republic of China picked up a media statement by the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission from their website on cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan
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I was diagnosed with viral pneumonia late Jan 2020. Temp 39.8, pulse 120, SATs 90. (This at doctor's surgery after I was called back there following chest x-ray results. Was told to "sit there while I call an ambulance" (which I refused and went home for 3 weeks).
GP has since told me I 99.9% certainly had COVID.
Definitely around sooner than acknowledged by authorities. |
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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
Burnleyish (She/They) |
I'm pretty certain I had it in March 2020. I think I avoided it when I went boarding in Austria.
The week before everything shut my friend was out in France, he came home had some stuff to sort through and I spend the night at his parents...
A week or so later he's in hospital with suspected new coronavirus (Because they weren't testing at that time)
I lost my sense of taste and smell, well actually I could only taste vinegar.
I had a major ME/CFS flare that lasted the best part of a year do spent till 2021 shielding and my lungs haven't been the same since.
Since then I have had all 3 Jabs (2 x AZ, 1 x Pfizer). I have been pinged as a close contact several times in 2021 but haven't tested positive a single time thankfully, I'd rather not have any more long covid / ME/CFS spells like 2020 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had covid symptoms in March 2019. I'd just been to a work conference with a colleague, whose daughter had just returned from a swimming competition in China. |
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By *untime40Man
over a year ago
Various locations |
December 2019
i like 40+ people at work had it loss of taste and smell extremely high temp and hard to breathe
(covid)
February 2020
Exactly the same symptoms felt like crap as in 2019 done the test and positive covid
Do you not find it strange that the bulk of the nation got very ill at the sametime prior to this being announced
This virus was active before the public were told |
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By *ev_1Couple
over a year ago
Bickliegh |
"I was ill before the government named it covid and give out millions of vaccines not bin ill since but everyone I know that's double jabbed and some boosters all had covid few times??? Any answers dont hat by the way "
incorrect fully jabbed and booster and not had covid  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Ummm, it's called Covid-19.
The 19 is shortened from 2019, so why isnt it called covid-20?"
Because it was first “discovered” in Wuhan China in 2019. The first reported case (though most certainly it was in UK earlier) was Feb 20 with patient 0 right here in Brighton having returned from a business trip to Far East, Singapore I think, followed by skiing holiday where everyone in the chalet also caught it.
I remember it well as work colleagues were joking about me living in “plague central” etc. A month later everyone realised how serious this was! |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
all around |
"It was in Europe before it was announced as a disease.
People had it before the 'Covid exists from today date'.
No doubt at all  "
You're right, but the infection rate was so rapid in every country from February it's just not possible that a few random people had it in 2019 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I had covid symptoms in March 2019. I'd just been to a work conference with a colleague, whose daughter had just returned from a swimming competition in China."
I have Covid symptoms most years. Because Covid symptoms are the same as most cold and flu symptoms. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probability is relevant.
The numbers of vaccinated people are in the high tens of millions, some without the booster. Of the smaller minority holding out against the safer protection of vaccines, some will have been infected, others not.
OP - you may be alluding to a fallacy that vaccines are of no benefit. When you, yourself have benefitted from the protection of vaccines. Others would have benefitted more if people like you had been fully vaccinated. "
The vaccines are mass genocide by stealth… hopefully you will wake up and see it before you are injured or killed by your next dose ! praying hard for you all… |
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