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By *xywelshguy OP   Man  over a year ago

Bridgend

Does if take longer to receive a pcr result if its negative?

Reason I ask is a friend of mine went for a test before me and at same venue but he has had his result (positive) and I am still waiting on mine

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By *xhib12Man  over a year ago

Blyth


"Does if take longer to receive a pcr result if its negative?

Reason I ask is a friend of mine went for a test before me and at same venue but he has had his result (positive) and I am still waiting on mine "

The result itself makes no difference in the notification. Are you sure you entered the correct details when you requested your test? There is currently a delay in getting results out to people so you may just be caught up in that. If you haven't heard in another 24 hours I believe you can contact the test centre and enquire about your result.

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By *xywelshguy OP   Man  over a year ago

Bridgend

Ok I see thankyou

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No doesn’t take any Longer whatever the result.

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By *xywelshguy OP   Man  over a year ago

Bridgend

Just strange how he has had his result back when he went after me but I'm still waiting

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Labs are very busy processing the tests and often are not in order when received etc.

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By *ady LickWoman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

We sent 5 pcs off on Boxing Day and have only had 1 back.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've been using a drive through test centre. They say if you've not heard in 3 days to call 119

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By *ady LickWoman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"I've been using a drive through test centre. They say if you've not heard in 3 days to call 119"

Or 96 hrs if you done it postal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

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By *he ferrettMan  over a year ago

knutsford


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

Finally a proper reply

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By *perfectpair5050Couple  over a year ago

marlbourgh


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

so you must know more than the rest of us then what’s the answer to it all

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

And your qualifications are ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

This is embarrassing - thick as mince - nonsense. If you'd like me to explain the difference between cycles and thresholds I'll find some crayons.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS  over a year ago

Durham


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?"

Not in virology that is for certain. Posting BS like that suggests zero qualifications.

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By *herryEatersCouple  over a year ago

East Cheshire


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

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By *ornwallkink2017Couple  over a year ago

Cornwall


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

I am sometimes ashamed because of posts like this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

What does this mean?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

I am sometimes ashamed because of posts like this. "

Sad isn’t it?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

This is embarrassing - thick as mince - nonsense. If you'd like me to explain the difference between cycles and thresholds I'll find some crayons. "

Oh! Draw the thermocycler in red

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By *xywelshguy OP   Man  over a year ago

Bridgend


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

I am sometimes ashamed because of posts like this. "

Sorry I made u feel ashamed

I only wana know so I can have 10 days off work

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?"

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that."

No, they haven't! They have moved to a multiplex protocol that can detect multiple pathogens in one protocol, rather than the emergency PCR protocol just for COVID. There are now multiple commercial protocols for PCR detection of COVID and so there's no need for them to rely on an emergency protocol developed specifically for CDC labs at the start of the pandemic (when commercial reagents were not available).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that."

No. They haven't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't. "

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html"

Do you understand what it means?

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that."

WRONG!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

31/12 change

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"31/12 change"

Talking in riddles! What does that mean?!

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By *I TwoCouple  over a year ago

all around


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that."

Guess what ?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html"

have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.? "

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

I thought I'd read the maximum about of complete tosh today. But no. Here it is. The biscuit taken for "complete and utter bullcrap statement of nonsense for the day 30 Dec 2021"

It's so completely nonsensical that it's painful.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

oh wow. sorry but that's about the biggest load of rubbish I've read on this in a long time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

Why ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

Well said! The inventor of the PCR test said that it wasn't any good as a diagnostic test and should NOT be used for that. Depending on the number of cycles used virtually anything can give a 'positive result' and some involved in this madness are now admitting that it may not be able to differentiate between CV19 and other viruses etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

Well said! The inventor of the PCR test said that it wasn't any good as a diagnostic test and should NOT be used for that. Depending on the number of cycles used virtually anything can give a 'positive result' and some involved in this madness are now admitting that it may not be able to differentiate between CV19 and other viruses etc. "

that's not what was said at all...

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people"

You mean all we had to do was to stop testing for Covid and nobody would have died of it?

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples."

So, what are people dying of, Pooh sticks?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

You need help, what utter bullshit.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples."

do you live in the real world??

You know I've been helping with the covid efforts and later the vaccines from the start

.. lost friends to this awful virus... lost loved ones... wake up you say.

. I'd say it's you that's living in a dream world

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

How do unvaccinated people get it?

And what about ebola and other viruses people aren't vaccinated against.

Chicken Pox?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

How do unvaccinated people get it?

And what about ebola and other viruses people aren't vaccinated against.

Chicken Pox? "

or people like me that had it before vaccines were a thing.. or how are unvaccinated people catching it.?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

How do unvaccinated people get it?

And what about ebola and other viruses people aren't vaccinated against.

Chicken Pox? or people like me that had it before vaccines were a thing.. or how are unvaccinated people catching it.?"

This person just wants attention and to feel important with their special information.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

How do unvaccinated people get it?

And what about ebola and other viruses people aren't vaccinated against.

Chicken Pox? or people like me that had it before vaccines were a thing.. or how are unvaccinated people catching it.?

This person just wants attention and to feel important with their special information."

False positive tests.

Even Johnson and Raab said it.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London

So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?"

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor."

How many hundreds of years after the event will this research be available and will it only be available to those who are "awake"?!

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor."

Geese? Lice? The Government jabbing people in their sleep?

Is H1N1 Avian inflenza nothing to do with birds then.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor.

Geese? Lice? The Government jabbing people in their sleep?

Is H1N1 Avian inflenza nothing to do with birds then."

Pigs?

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By *L2021Couple  over a year ago

manchester

Can these lateral flow test and pcr test tell the difference between a cold I’m not looking for stupid answers but seriously the common cold hasn’t disappeared has it there mus be a massive mix of covid , cold and flu etc at the minute

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor.

How many hundreds of years after the event will this research be available and will it only be available to those who are "awake"?! "

Research is so easy.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-1918-spanish-flu-only-the-vaccinated-died/

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor.

How many hundreds of years after the event will this research be available and will it only be available to those who are "awake"?!

Research is so easy.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-1918-spanish-flu-only-the-vaccinated-died/"

According to Reuters that is incorrect. I did some research

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor.

How many hundreds of years after the event will this research be available and will it only be available to those who are "awake"?!

Research is so easy.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-1918-spanish-flu-only-the-vaccinated-died/

According to Reuters that is incorrect. I did some research "

"Fact Check-A meningitis vaccine trial at a U.S. military camp did not cause the 1918 Spanish Flu | Article [AMP] | Reuters" https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2M62BG

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples."

Does it hurt to be this stupid or is it a kind of blissful ignorance?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?

Research will reveal chickens were never a factor.

How many hundreds of years after the event will this research be available and will it only be available to those who are "awake"?!

Research is so easy.

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-1918-spanish-flu-only-the-vaccinated-died/"

So that one document is all that’s needed? Besides the fact flu vaccines were not developed until the 1930s kind of invalidates that document completely.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples.

Does it hurt to be this stupid or is it a kind of blissful ignorance? "

Tosses a coin !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples.

Does it hurt to be this stupid or is it a kind of blissful ignorance? "

Happy to take advice off the 58 Dr's/Scientists/Lecturers in my private Telegram support group who can't speak out publicly, many who are www.HART.org members.

Love being this ignorant but I really wish I WAS wrong and everyone is in fact OK in the end.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

https://www.hartgroup.org/

Seems some can't search for the truth.

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By *alcon43Woman  over a year ago

Paisley

Check your email as well as texts. I got my results by email a few hours before I received it by text. Check your junk mail as well.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"https://www.hartgroup.org/

Seems some can't search for the truth."

Do some research into the HART group.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples.

Does it hurt to be this stupid or is it a kind of blissful ignorance?

Happy to take advice off the 58 Dr's/Scientists/Lecturers in my private Telegram support group who can't speak out publicly, many who are www.HART.org members.

Love being this ignorant but I really wish I WAS wrong and everyone is in fact OK in the end.

"

That speaks for itself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Convid 19 has never been isolated, only existed on a computer program, supplied by China.

Longest sequence 30,000, only need 6 out of that 30,000 to line up to be a positive.

Or

You have a book called Whinny The Pooh with 30.000 words.

Take one segment, say "It was a nice sunny morning" - six words

Then go through all the Harry Potter books and find the same sequence of words, then declare that the Harry Potter book is in fact Whinny The Pooh.

Simples.

Does it hurt to be this stupid or is it a kind of blissful ignorance?

Happy to take advice off the 58 Dr's/Scientists/Lecturers in my private Telegram support group who can't speak out publicly, many who are www.HART.org members.

Love being this ignorant but I really wish I WAS wrong and everyone is in fact OK in the end.

"

It will end at some point and most people are ok. Just worries me about countries that have high HIV rates and fearful of treatment/vaccines which becomes a breeding ground for mutations. That then keeps the pandemic going

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By *xywelshguy OP   Man  over a year ago

Bridgend


"Check your email as well as texts. I got my results by email a few hours before I received it by text. Check your junk mail as well. "

Well I was Neg so no time off work for me

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By *coobyBoobyDooWoman  over a year ago

Coalville


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

I’ve had three jabs and loads of tests including a recent pcr and I’ve always been negative - how does that work if your suggestion is accurate? Genuine question.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

I’ve had three jabs and loads of tests including a recent pcr and I’ve always been negative - how does that work if your suggestion is accurate? Genuine question. "

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you."

placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"Can these lateral flow test and pcr test tell the difference between a cold I’m not looking for stupid answers but seriously the common cold hasn’t disappeared has it there mus be a massive mix of covid , cold and flu etc at the minute "

There's no such single virus as "cold". Colds can be caused by a multitude of different types of virus - rhinoviruses, adenoviruses, Coronaviruses etc.

Both LFT and PCR tests only show positives specifically for the SARS-CoV-2 virus because they are designed around specific proteins produced only by this single virus. So, LFT and PCR will only be positive if you have COVID. Not "another" virus causing cold-like or flu-like symptoms.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

I’ve had three jabs and loads of tests including a recent pcr and I’ve always been negative - how does that work if your suggestion is accurate? Genuine question.

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you."

What about those of us that had covid before the vaccines were even introduced

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?"

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity."

Natural immunity isn't enough it seems though. Hence the vaccines helping so much

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.hartgroup.org/

Seems some can't search for the truth."

Oh dear. Pathetic. Real rogues' gallery of retired medics and Spectator columnists there.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

I’ve had three jabs and loads of tests including a recent pcr and I’ve always been negative - how does that work if your suggestion is accurate? Genuine question.

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you."

Have you ever had a cold?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have been on the phone to 119 today to chase test results from boxing day. I spoke to someone in testing and someone from track and trace. They told me they have my results and they have been tested but they cannot give me the results over the phone. I asked if they could send an email or text message and I was told by the testing side of it that they are prioritising positive results.

They said track and trace might be able to help so put me through to them. I was told it is currently taking up to 6 days to get postal results back. Im Currently on day 5, they said whilst they could not give me the results they did tell me that my name is not coming up as a positive case. So when I asked if I was negative they said we cannot confirm that and I will have to wait for the text! They confirmed I can go out again from the 2nd regardless of whether I get the results back. I asked if it was possible that I would still not have results back by the 2nd and I was told yes because there is a massive back log!

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By *arbellsWoman  over a year ago

Cambridge


"So, how did so many people get Spanish Flu? All pecked by infected chickens?"

Sorry I know this is a serious topic but this made me laugh whilst in isolation. Proper cheered me up this comment haha

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity."

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient? "

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it."

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

"

You do know that cold and flu viruses which are a corona virus can get into your bloodstream through the nasal meme brain don’t you ?

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology "

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol

Also viruses can enter through the eyes and mouth as well

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus."

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria. "

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine "

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate.

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By *uliette500Woman  over a year ago

Hull


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that."

No they haven't they have just changed which rests they are using. They are still testing for covid but the new tests will pick other things as well so not just a covid test.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate. "

The most frightening thing is that this person is not alone in 100% believing this rubbish

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By *arbellsWoman  over a year ago

Cambridge


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate. "

Am I right in thinking that you get given a injection with a strain or cell of the virus (whatever that may be) then your body builds antibodies to fight that virus?

Similar to when you get treatment for bad hayfever?

I'm not too clued up on it all but in very simple terms? Quite interested to know if not

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate. "

I made a statement that the vaccine does not contain any ingredients or live covid virus and does not give you covid, you actually have to catch the virus to get natural immunity. You are saying that is incorrect.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate.

I made a statement that the vaccine does not contain any ingredients or live covid virus and does not give you covid, you actually have to catch the virus to get natural immunity. You are saying that is incorrect."

It contains ingredients (freely available to view online via the patient information leaflets).

It does not contain whole COVID virus.

This does not preclude it from acting as a vaccine and stimulating immunity, the same as any other vaccine.

Why are you obsessed with the idea of whole virus being in the vaccines?

Incidentally, China DID make two whole virus vaccines (attenuated). Of all the COVID vaccines available in the world, they are the least efficacious.

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By *uliette500Woman  over a year ago

Hull


"If you'd just stop getting tested all this nonsense would end.

Anything over 30 cycle is false and over 45 (which is UK) water tests positive.

Wake up people

And your qualifications are ?

CDC have withdrawn the PCR process, only need to be able to read to understand that.

No. They haven't.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html have you actually read what it says... where is a a face palm emoji..

Do you think if people aren't testing covid won't be here.?

Yes it will be here. I'll keep it simple.

Can't catch a virus. Body absorbs toxins and the immune system attacks these getting them out of the body as a virus, usually as snot, sometimes diarrhoea.

Can only catch a virus if its put in your bloodstream, proven by tests carried out during Spanish Flu.

So, how does the virus get in your bloodstream?

Build fear with false testing then inject the virus in the vax when everyone thinks the vax is the solution.

I’ve had three jabs and loads of tests including a recent pcr and I’ve always been negative - how does that work if your suggestion is accurate? Genuine question.

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you."

They may possibly have used placebo jabs in the research for the vaccine but nobody else has been given a placebo jab and it is totally irresponsible of you to suggest it.

In fact most of the crap you have put on this post is irresponsible and incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.hartgroup.org/

Seems some can't search for the truth.

Oh dear. Pathetic. Real rogues' gallery of retired medics and Spectator columnists there. "

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate.

I made a statement that the vaccine does not contain any ingredients or live covid virus and does not give you covid, you actually have to catch the virus to get natural immunity. You are saying that is incorrect.

It contains ingredients (freely available to view online via the patient information leaflets).

It does not contain whole COVID virus.

This does not preclude it from acting as a vaccine and stimulating immunity, the same as any other vaccine.

Why are you obsessed with the idea of whole virus being in the vaccines?

Incidentally, China DID make two whole virus vaccines (attenuated). Of all the COVID vaccines available in the world, they are the least efficacious. "

The reason is people I know and seen on here who are vaccinated have a misconception that they have been given the covid virus in the vaccine and are immune to the virus.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate.

I made a statement that the vaccine does not contain any ingredients or live covid virus and does not give you covid, you actually have to catch the virus to get natural immunity. You are saying that is incorrect.

It contains ingredients (freely available to view online via the patient information leaflets).

It does not contain whole COVID virus.

This does not preclude it from acting as a vaccine and stimulating immunity, the same as any other vaccine.

Why are you obsessed with the idea of whole virus being in the vaccines?

Incidentally, China DID make two whole virus vaccines (attenuated). Of all the COVID vaccines available in the world, they are the least efficacious.

The reason is people I know and seen on here who are vaccinated have a misconception that they have been given the covid virus in the vaccine and are immune to the virus."

They have been given part of the virus and indeed have immunity. Not sterilising immunity, but immunity against serious disease (unless very immunocompromised).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Not everyone tests positive.

Some had placebo jabs.

Really hope everything works out well for you. placebo jabs... come on... do you really believe all this nonsense?

There are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines you can not and do not catch covid from the vaccine, you actually need to catch the covid virus to get natural immunity.

"There's no ingredients in the vaccine"...

...So what's the off-white, slightly viscous substance in the syringes then? Is it imaginary?! Even if it were pure water (which the appearance and viscosity says it's not), that would, presumably, be an ingredient?

I should of said there are no ingredients or live virus in the vaccines that give you covid ie: the vaccine does not give you covid you actually have to catch it to get it.

Ah. Seeing as Pfizer and Moderna are the two vaccines currently in use, both include segments of mRNA which code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This is the antigen recognised by the immune system, generating immunity.

As you are clearly a world-leading expert in vaccine science, you will know that "whole virus" vaccines are pretty much a thing of the past. Almost all vaccines in routine use now consist only of a small "fragment" (or antigen) of the virion being vaccinated against. The mRNA vaccines are no different in this regard, only that the antigen is in RNA form (requiring human cells to transcribe it into spike protein) rather than being a protein already.

The next steps in antibody formation (antigen presentation on the cell surface, recruitment of T and B cells etc) are exactly the same with these vaccines as with any other vaccine in use today. But I'm sure you are very conversant in immunology

So you are saying the vaccines being administered acctully give the recipient the covid virus.

Don't you understand what they give? They give a fragment of the virus in the form of a piece of mRNA, which human cells will transcribe upon receipt and form viral S-protein. This protein will be presented via the usual method for infected cells and the immune response takes over, exactly the same as any other vaccine.

How many vaccines give the recipient the actual disease?????? Even old-style whole virus vaccines were generally not live virus (except polio, and that's no longer in use in the West either). The kiddies nasal flu vaccine is whole virus but I can't think of any other at the mo. Old whole-virus vaccines were attenuated or inactivated. Almost all vaccines in use today make use of only fragments of virus, not whole virus (live, inactivated, attenuated or otherwise).

Finally, not all vaccines are for viral illness. For example, the Nimenrix vaccine for bacterial meningitis, which uses sugars (polysaccharides) from the surface of the bacteria only, not whole bacteria.

So you are saying the vaccines being administered actually give the recipient the covid virus and they will have natural immunity to the covid virus from the vaccine

Can you please elaborate on which other vaccines in use actually give the recipient the actual disease in question? Moreover, can you please explain how you THINK a vaccine works, because it is abundantly clear that your understanding is inaccurate.

I made a statement that the vaccine does not contain any ingredients or live covid virus and does not give you covid, you actually have to catch the virus to get natural immunity. You are saying that is incorrect.

It contains ingredients (freely available to view online via the patient information leaflets).

It does not contain whole COVID virus.

This does not preclude it from acting as a vaccine and stimulating immunity, the same as any other vaccine.

Why are you obsessed with the idea of whole virus being in the vaccines?

Incidentally, China DID make two whole virus vaccines (attenuated). Of all the COVID vaccines available in the world, they are the least efficacious.

The reason is people I know and seen on here who are vaccinated have a misconception that they have been given the covid virus in the vaccine and are immune to the virus.

They have been given part of the virus and indeed have immunity. Not sterilising immunity, but immunity against serious disease (unless very immunocompromised). "

There really is a HUGE misconception about what this vaccine does.

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