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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." We know | |||
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"This is getting silly now " I know it’s always the same agenda | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? " They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think.. 
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical.. "Ha ha, great response | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical.. "Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!! Winston | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? " You wouldn't. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical..
Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical..
Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!
Winston
Mmm.. "I've already got 2 of the props.
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical..
Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!
Winston
Mmm..
I've already got 2 of the props.
Winston"Ditto.. But never worn them together 
I did once threaten to when our then just teenage daughter was throwing a strop on holiday, I even laid the socks out to see if the colour matched..
Job done.. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't." Well what was the point of the question then? | |||
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"I personally wouldn't be able to check but if things go ahead then I wont have to worry as they will all be vaccinated "Why would you be worried? | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? " At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes.. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes.. "Excellent use of badinage Sir. Salute' Winston | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes.. "The Ministry of Silly Threads....
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston"Nice one Centurion, like it.. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston
Nice one Centurion, like it.. "Come on, come on, conjugate the verb.... Romanus, virus.......
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue. You could always decline it and suffer. What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed? | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston
Nice one Centurion, like it..
Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....
Romanus, virus.......
Winston"Innoculation? Yes.. Good, door on the left..one jab only.. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? " ^This ^ | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue. You could always decline it and suffer. What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?" Exactly this. Stupid question | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston
Nice one Centurion, like it..
Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....
Romanus, virus.......
Winston
Innoculation?
Yes..
Good, door on the left..one jab only.."She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt! A newt? 
I got the vaccine......
Winston | |||
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"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters." May want to check the Gov website on that as I did and it says that so long as you have had both doses of a two dose vaccine or one of a single dose vaccine you count as vaccinated for travel to the uk and mentions nothing about not having your booster meaning you are downgraded to unvaccinated. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston
Nice one Centurion, like it..
Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....
Romanus, virus.......
Winston
Innoculation?
Yes..
Good, door on the left..one jab only..
She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got the vaccine......
Winston"Such a treasure trove of classic writing.. | |||
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"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters. May want to check the Gov website on that as I did and it says that so long as you have had both doses of a two dose vaccine or one of a single dose vaccine you count as vaccinated for travel to the uk and mentions nothing about not having your booster meaning you are downgraded to unvaccinated." Forgot the link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity. | |||
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"This is getting silly now " It is very much. Some people have serious problem mentally. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston
Nice one Centurion, like it..
Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....
Romanus, virus.......
Winston
Innoculation?
Yes..
Good, door on the left..one jab only..
She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got the vaccine......
Winston
Such a treasure trove of classic writing..
"Absolutely. True classics...... I could watch the films over and over. Some of the sketches, absolute genius. By the way, got any naked pictures of your Mrs? Nudge nudge..... Winston | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." If your medical professional had hep b for example… I bet you would be the 1st person asking the questions…. | |||
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"It does not matter. Vaccinated or unvaccinated. I would not ask anyone or need to know. I really don't understand why some people are so scared of unvaccinated people. It's like they are from another planet." Let's be honest, the ones who are threatening teachers and NHS staff at vaccination hubs should be viewed with caution but they are a minority and I would suspect their actions are rightly condemned by the vast majority regardless if vaccination status.. | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? You wouldn't. Well what was the point of the question then? At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..
The Ministry of Silly Threads....
Winston
Nice one Centurion, like it..
Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....
Romanus, virus.......
Winston
Innoculation?
Yes..
Good, door on the left..one jab only..
She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got the vaccine......
Winston
Such a treasure trove of classic writing..
Absolutely. True classics......
I could watch the films over and over.
Some of the sketches, absolute genius.
By the way, got any naked pictures of your Mrs? Nudge nudge.....
Winston"Remember watching life of Brian with our son who just roared with laughter.. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue. You could always decline it and suffer. What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?" Santa delivered a box of wooden spoons ? | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue. You could always decline it and suffer. What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed? Santa delivered a box of wooden spoons ?" | |||
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"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters. May want to check the Gov website on that as I did and it says that so long as you have had both doses of a two dose vaccine or one of a single dose vaccine you count as vaccinated for travel to the uk and mentions nothing about not having your booster meaning you are downgraded to unvaccinated. Forgot the link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity." I meant the vaccines not boosters. I mixed them up there. | |||
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"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters. May want to check the Gov website on that as I did and it says that so long as you have had both doses of a two dose vaccine or one of a single dose vaccine you count as vaccinated for travel to the uk and mentions nothing about not having your booster meaning you are downgraded to unvaccinated. Forgot the link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity.I meant the vaccines not boosters. I mixed them up there." You are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your second dose of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, or two weeks after a single dose of the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine. | |||
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"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters. May want to check the Gov website on that as I did and it says that so long as you have had both doses of a two dose vaccine or one of a single dose vaccine you count as vaccinated for travel to the uk and mentions nothing about not having your booster meaning you are downgraded to unvaccinated. Forgot the link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity.I meant the vaccines not boosters. I mixed them up there.You are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your second dose of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, or two weeks after a single dose of the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine." Yup so you only need to have the initial vaccines not any boosters which means no matter how long this goes on you will still count as fully vaccinated even if there are boosters every 6 months so not really a problem so long as you have had one of the approved vaccines be it a single dose vaccine or double so long as you have had it even if you dont get the boosters and this will probably remain the same if they bring out new vaccines I would think | |||
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"I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF!" What question, the same one as the OP? | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical.. "I wouldn’t even talk, let alone be treated by, someone wearing a sandals and socks combo! | |||
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical..
I wouldn’t even talk, let alone be treated by, someone wearing a sandals and socks combo!"Dammit. *wanders off muttering to himself about "fussy" people.
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"How would you know they were unvaccinated? They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks.. I think..
For clarification most of that could be satirical..
I wouldn’t even talk, let alone be treated by, someone wearing a sandals and socks combo!"Avoid Bournemouth.. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." Yes, I would, because they will have tested anyway. | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question." prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue. You could always decline it and suffer. What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?" It was to gauge opinion whether people would get treated/cared for by an unvaccinated nurse, doctor or surgeon. Looking at the responses (to the question), the majority would get treated/cared for by an unvaccinated nurse, doctor or surgeon. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." vaxxed or unvaxxed i wouldnt really care if i needed treatment,bet those who say no were out clapping drs and nurses and calling them all heros a cpl of years ago | |||
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" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. " you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on | |||
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" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on " Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people. | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest" Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor. | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor." so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? | |||
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"As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less. In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me! More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest." Same | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? " That's not what OP asked | |||
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" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people." Do you have a link to this please? My understanding was that viral load in vaccinated and unvaccinated tends to be the same but the period of time the vaccinated are “contagious” is shorter than the unvaccinated. So the risk is being in their presence but that too is mitigated by the unvaccinated are more likely to have symptoms and know they are ill/have Covid and test/isolate. | |||
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" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people. Do you have a link to this please? My understanding was that viral load in vaccinated and unvaccinated tends to be the same but the period of time the vaccinated are “contagious” is shorter than the unvaccinated. So the risk is being in their presence but that too is mitigated by the unvaccinated are more likely to have symptoms and know they are ill/have Covid and test/isolate. " NO anti vax are nutters so they are more lightly to ignore symptoms & not isolate a certain tennis player is a good example of this | |||
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"As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less. In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me! More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest." | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked" The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor? | |||
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" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people. Do you have a link to this please? My understanding was that viral load in vaccinated and unvaccinated tends to be the same but the period of time the vaccinated are “contagious” is shorter than the unvaccinated. So the risk is being in their presence but that too is mitigated by the unvaccinated are more likely to have symptoms and know they are ill/have Covid and test/isolate. NO anti vax are nutters so they are more lightly to ignore symptoms & not isolate a certain tennis player is a good example of this " You need to totally qualify that statement. When you say “anti vax” do you include in that ALL people who have not had the vaccine (apart from on medical grounds)? Total leap to assume anyone who hasn’t had the vaccine would not be prepared to take other risk mitigations. | |||
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" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people. Do you have a link to this please? My understanding was that viral load in vaccinated and unvaccinated tends to be the same but the period of time the vaccinated are “contagious” is shorter than the unvaccinated. So the risk is being in their presence but that too is mitigated by the unvaccinated are more likely to have symptoms and know they are ill/have Covid and test/isolate. NO anti vax are nutters so they are more lightly to ignore symptoms & not isolate a certain tennis player is a good example of this " and your evidence for them ignoring symptoms is what? And you do realise a lot of those not taking the covid shot have had all there other jabs just not this one so hardly anti vax,my oldest daughter hasnt taken one but i wouldnt say shes anti vax,shes not telling others not to have it or belittling those that have had it,shes just made a personal choice not to have this one as she had covid in november 2020 so she feels she dosent need it,but no doubt in your mind she should stay locked in doors | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?" "Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you?" is very different from "Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you if they were the only person available and you were dying". A HEMS doctor is very different. Their job is immediate treatment, so their views on vaccination don't affect their ability to treat someone who's had a heart attack or a stab wound. However if I had a long term illness I would not trust an anti vax doctor to take care of me. How can I trust someone to explore all avenues of treatment if they don't trust the work of the medical comminity? | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?" trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor? "Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you?" is very different from "Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you if they were the only person available and you were dying". A HEMS doctor is very different. Their job is immediate treatment, so their views on vaccination don't affect their ability to treat someone who's had a heart attack or a stab wound. However if I had a long term illness I would not trust an anti vax doctor to take care of me. How can I trust someone to explore all avenues of treatment if they don't trust the work of the medical comminity? " Interesting opinion. What if he was the only doctor able/prepared to treat you? | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor? trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative "Maybe you'd like to answer the question instead of just making petty comments. | |||
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor? trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative
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"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated? That's not what OP asked The thread title stated medical professional. I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list. Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor? trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." id actualy pref an unvaxed person | |||
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"I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF!" Same question. It was in reply to a previous post on another thread. Selective sensoring I guess | |||
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"I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF! Same question. It was in reply to a previous post on another thread. Selective sensoring I guess " | |||
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"Yes Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year Just shows it's all virtue signaling " | |||
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"Yes Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year Just shows it's all virtue signaling " | |||
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"Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year " Indeed. It goes some way to explain why so many of the 'lockdown/vaccine enthusiasts' were unable to give a simple yes/no answer. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue. You could always decline it and suffer. What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?" Exactly this. In our opinion just to get attention. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." They would probably have to wear a mask now or in some cases pre covid. Never known of a surgeon operating on someone without a mask | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." Yes why not. | |||
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"As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less. In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me! More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest." 100% what she said | |||
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"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person. Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off. Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab." Well said only 9.5% of people over 12 are completely unvaccinated in the UK. A shrinking vocal minority. | |||
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"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person. Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off. Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab." Can you please explain how I am an anti vaxxer when I have had two Pfizer jabs please? Also other Jabs for other things I'll wait | |||
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"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person. Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off. Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab. Can you please explain how I am an anti vaxxer when I have had two Pfizer jabs please? Also other Jabs for other things I'll wait" I don't think anyone has called you an anti vaxxer. I wouldn't call someone who chooses not to have a vaccine one. An anti vaxxer is some who spouts, usually false information, about how the covid or other vaccines. Vaccines in general are the most important medical breakthrough in human history, apart from clean water. You choose not to have a vaccine fine just don`t repeat made up stuff to others to justify it. | |||
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"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person. Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off. Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab. Can you please explain how I am an anti vaxxer when I have had two Pfizer jabs please? Also other Jabs for other things I'll wait I don't think anyone has called you an anti vaxxer. I wouldn't call someone who chooses not to have a vaccine one. An anti vaxxer is some who spouts, usually false information, about how the covid or other vaccines. Vaccines in general are the most important medical breakthrough in human history, apart from clean water. You choose not to have a vaccine fine just don`t repeat made up stuff to others to justify it." The person was insinuating I was seeing as I am the only one in this thread to bring up virtue signaling which was referred to in her post | |||
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"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person. Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off. Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab." What about those of us who are fully vaccinated but continue to have concerns, would ideally have waited longer before having the vaccines so we had long term data, and are therefore continuing to ask questions or challenge the narrative and continue to defend the right of personal choice. There’s no patting on the back. There is challenging nonsense being spouted by people on both extreme sides. Many people are in the middle and just trying to have a more rounded view. As I posted near the top, it is completely spurious to say you only want to be treated by someone vaccinated until, if ever, the vaccine actually stops infection and stops transmission. All that matters in this scenario is regular testing. | |||
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"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV? Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt." Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact | |||
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"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV? Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt. Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact" Sharps incidents are common. Many people get bent out of shape over HIV when they simply don't need to, just like they do over covid. | |||
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"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV? Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt. Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact Sharps incidents are common. Many people get bent out of shape over HIV when they simply don't need to, just like they do over covid." It wasn’t until 2013 that the guidance was changed allowing practitioners with HIV to work in any area of the NHS. Prior to that, most of them took medical retirement. Given that we’re currently only two years into this pandemic and not seventeen, history isn’t supporting your point. | |||
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"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV? Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt. Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact" Where do you get the idea that "most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of AIDS"? Cal | |||
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"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV? Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt. Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact Where do you get the idea that "most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of AIDS"? Cal" well for one AIDS is a specific thing and is late stage HIV infection. If your not on meds you are dead within 3 years on average "Current antiretroviral therapy (ART) does not cure HIV infection but highly suppresses viral replication within a person's body and allows an individual's immune system recovery to strengthen and regain the capacity to fight off opportunistic infections and some cancers. Since 2016, WHO has recommended that all people living with HIV be provided with lifelong ART, including children, adolescents, adults and pregnant and breastfeeding women, regardless of clinical status or CD4 cell count. By June 2021, 187 countries had already adopted this recommendation, covering 99% of all people living with HIV globally" what i meant was the medication can prevent the spread from somone infected. Certain meds now show 0 viral load | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. | |||
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"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV? Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt. Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact Where do you get the idea that "most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of AIDS"? Cal well for one AIDS is a specific thing and is late stage HIV infection. If your not on meds you are dead within 3 years on average "Current antiretroviral therapy (ART) does not cure HIV infection but highly suppresses viral replication within a person's body and allows an individual's immune system recovery to strengthen and regain the capacity to fight off opportunistic infections and some cancers. Since 2016, WHO has recommended that all people living with HIV be provided with lifelong ART, including children, adolescents, adults and pregnant and breastfeeding women, regardless of clinical status or CD4 cell count. By June 2021, 187 countries had already adopted this recommendation, covering 99% of all people living with HIV globally" what i meant was the medication can prevent the spread from somone infected. Certain meds now show 0 viral load " Tbh why are we even comparing HIV to Covid its apples and oranges thats like trying to say its the same as Rabies or CWD which has a 100% mortality rate not 1% like covid when treated in the uk. Even the worst is only 6% | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." Yes I would let an unvaccinated health professional treat me. As a health professional, they will be well tested, will be following good hygiene (hand washing etc), and following other precautions, so low risk to me. | |||
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"Wouldn't bother me vaccine don't stop you catching or passing on the virus not sure why so many act like it does...." Vaccine reduces the chances of catching the virus and reduces the chances of passing it on. Does it completely work? No. But it helps. Still need other safety precautions | |||
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"Wouldn't bother me vaccine don't stop you catching or passing on the virus not sure why so many act like it does.... Vaccine reduces the chances of catching the virus and reduces the chances of passing it on. Does it completely work? No. But it helps. Still need other safety precautions " Confess to being “datered out” (is that a thing) and starting to switch off a bit but... Are you sure the “vaccine reduces the chance of catching the virus”? There may be new evidence but I thought it reduced the likelihood of developing serious symptoms not stopped you catching it? Also the “reduces the chances of passing it on” is tied to the points on serious symptoms and period of time someone is able to spread. My understanding (could be out of date) is that the viral load is the same vaccinated or unvaccinated but duration of time being infectious was less in vaccinated? Then we also need to play in the severity of symptoms again as someone vaccinated but with little/no symptoms is actually likely to spread more (albeit over shorter period) than someone unvaccinated with worse symptoms who stays home isolating because they are ill. As I said, I could be behind the curve on this. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not." What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?" Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?" Aaaand the mask is off. It only took 130 odd replies | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status." Treat and care it's a funny way to describe because if a person has been vaccinated they have done this for the treatment and care of others.so how can it be classified as them providing treatment for care | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence." It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point." Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights  | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Treat and care it's a funny way to describe because if a person has been vaccinated they have done this for the treatment and care of others.so how can it be classified as them providing treatment for care "They are doing their job - treating and caring for people. How would you describe what they are doing? | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights "So a purple ribbon is not allowed but a rainbow ribbon is? | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?" Not sure what your implying, but my answer was plain enough. Unvaccinated is fine, a medical professional publicly exhibiting anti vax or conspiracy theory traits is not. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Treat and care it's a funny way to describe because if a person has been vaccinated they have done this for the treatment and care of others.so how can it be classified as them providing treatment for care
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point." It's not the same at all. Anyone with an Antivax or Covid denying badge is clearly a moron and would not be treating me at all. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. It's not the same at all. Anyone with an Antivax or Covid denying badge is clearly a moron and would not be treating me at all. " Just to be clear, I would have no problem with them being unvaccinated as that is their choice. But not publically promoting an Antivax agenda. I wouldn't want to be treated by someone openly a holocaust denier either. | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes. If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not. What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge? Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion? I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence. It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant. That was the point. It's not the same at all. Anyone with an Antivax or Covid denying badge is clearly a moron and would not be treating me at all. Just to be clear, I would have no problem with them being unvaccinated as that is their choice. But not publically promoting an Antivax agenda. I wouldn't want to be treated by someone openly a holocaust denier either." Quote from Nursing Times " The police are investigating comments made at the weekend by a struck-off nurse at an anti-lockdown and anti-vaccine protest, where she likened Nazis executed after the Nuremberg trials to NHS staff giving Covid-19 jabs. Kay Shemirani, more commonly known as Kate, is a conspiracy theorist who denies the existence of Covid-19 and discourages people from being vaccinated. As reported by Nursing Times, she was struck off last month after a fitness-to-practise panel determined she was no longer a safe or effective nurse, because she had “actively discouraged people from wearing masks, adhering to social distancing, and taking vaccinations”." | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Treat and care it's a funny way to describe because if a person has been vaccinated they have done this for the treatment and care of others.so how can it be classified as them providing treatment for care
They are doing their job - treating and caring for people.
How would you describe what they are doing?
People have been vaccinated for the care of others so they don't need treatment which would be unnecessary actions speak louder
Can you add “some” to the beginning of that sentence!
I know people who ONLY had the vaccine so they could go on holiday. I also know plenty of people who only had the vaccine to protect themselves. I also know plenty of people who are virtue signalling and trying to make out their primary driver was societal reasons and neither of the above.
So yeah “some people...”"Well if a person is trying to treat someone they also need to act professionally with a duty of care not adding to their symptoms that could add further harm to their well-being. As you've said you know people whom got vaccinated only to protect themselves ? Was this the only understanding they thought the vaccine was for... As it's too help the control of the spread of the virus to limit more people being infected from the virus.... An educated guess | |||
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"Assuming you're already in need of care for an existing medical condition or emergency at this point (because why else would you be there if not) and the aforementioned professional has, for some reason, elected to declare their vaccination status (or lack thereof) to you, and that Covid puts you at far greater risk of death/serious illness if paired with existing comorbidities...the idea of accepting the care of said unvaccinated medical professional is monumentally stupid. Literally the only sensible answer is no." Good point. If the aforementioned professional has taken an LFT prior to coming on shift and tested negative, would you still say no? | |||
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"Assuming you're already in need of care for an existing medical condition or emergency at this point (because why else would you be there if not) and the aforementioned professional has, for some reason, elected to declare their vaccination status (or lack thereof) to you, and that Covid puts you at far greater risk of death/serious illness if paired with existing comorbidities...the idea of accepting the care of said unvaccinated medical professional is monumentally stupid. Literally the only sensible answer is no. Good point. If the aforementioned professional has taken an LFT prior to coming on shift and tested negative, would you still say no?" You would never know so the question isn't worth thinking about in its current state. A more reasonable question could be, do you have confidence in the the way the NHS screen staff and patients for covid before treatment. | |||
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"I think you would struggle to find a medical professional that claims COVID doesn't exist or is anti Vax. You will find some who choose not to have it through personal choice and should be able to debate publicly issues surrounding the forced vaccination being imposed against them. Not anti Vax, pro choice. Informed consent is a human right for ALL! Just because we all have different opinions does not mean you are right and the opposing view is Anti anything." There are a few but on the whole you're right, no conspiracy theory needed and it's all about wooden spoons | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status. Treat and care it's a funny way to describe because if a person has been vaccinated they have done this for the treatment and care of others.so how can it be classified as them providing treatment for care
They are doing their job - treating and caring for people.
How would you describe what they are doing?
People have been vaccinated for the care of others so they don't need treatment which would be unnecessary actions speak louder
Can you add “some” to the beginning of that sentence!
I know people who ONLY had the vaccine so they could go on holiday. I also know plenty of people who only had the vaccine to protect themselves. I also know plenty of people who are virtue signalling and trying to make out their primary driver was societal reasons and neither of the above.
So yeah “some people...”
Well if a person is trying to treat someone they also need to act professionally with a duty of care not adding to their symptoms that could add further harm to their well-being.
As you've said you know people whom got vaccinated only to protect themselves ? Was this the only understanding they thought the vaccine was for... As it's too help the control of the spread of the virus to limit more people being infected from the virus.... An educated guess "In my experience a large proportion of Brits are selfish and entitled and I doubt they care about others, just themselves. While the first few months of Covid started to restore my faith in people, since then a lot of people have returned to type. So no I really don’t think all these people had the vaccine for the benefit of others or society as a whole, uncomfortable as that might be. That is not to say there aren’t good people, far from it. But my point was that sweeping statement needed a qualifier, hence “some”. | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some." I'm not sure people have ever been that comfortable with opposing opinions, many wars and battles have been had in the past, the internet seems to offer up a perfect battleground for our modern day. We need a no-mans land where we can meet in the middle and have a cup of tea | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some." They’ll only poke the wasp nest from the safety of their keyboard though. Social media keyboard warriors. Said it so many times now, but tribalism and binary points of view have become the norm with no grey areas or middle ground accommodated! Sad state of affairs. | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some. I'm not sure people have ever been that comfortable with opposing opinions, many wars and battles have been had in the past, the internet seems to offer up a perfect battleground for our modern day. We need a no-mans land where we can meet in the middle and have a cup of tea" I'd have thought if swingers can't be friends in a swingers forum then theres something wrong, it's almost like we have nothing in common. | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some. I'm not sure people have ever been that comfortable with opposing opinions, many wars and battles have been had in the past, the internet seems to offer up a perfect battleground for our modern day. We need a no-mans land where we can meet in the middle and have a cup of tea I'd have thought if swingers can't be friends in a swingers forum then theres something wrong, it's almost like we have nothing in common." I agree with you, isn't it mad how human nature can make just one thing the mother of all things! | |||
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"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you? " I would have no way of knowing their vaccination status, so it's a pointless question really. I'm far more concerned about them being suitably qualified. | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some." These forums are in no way representative of real life. There are far more entrenched views at both ends of the spectrum* here than in real life where significantly fewer fucks are given. * Especially, pro-lockdown snowflakes. | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some. These forums are in no way representative of real life. There are far more entrenched views at both ends of the spectrum* here than in real life where significantly fewer fucks are given. * Especially, pro-lockdown snowflakes." Why the last sentance? Seems unnecessarily antagonistic | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some. These forums are in no way representative of real life. There are far more entrenched views at both ends of the spectrum* here than in real life where significantly fewer fucks are given. * Especially, pro-lockdown snowflakes. Why the last sentance? Seems unnecessarily antagonistic " Agreed | |||
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"Just my thought, but if these forums are even slightly representative of wider society, we appear to have lost the ability to live with and respect differences of opinion. We fully respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life provided of course it's legal and respectful to others and causes no harm and they don't try to force these decisions on others especially using what is without doubt misinformation. Poking a wasps nest is stupid and completely counterproductive but seems to becoming a hobby for some. These forums are in no way representative of real life. There are far more entrenched views at both ends of the spectrum* here than in real life where significantly fewer fucks are given. * Especially, pro-lockdown snowflakes. Why the last sentance? Seems unnecessarily antagonistic Agreed " Agreed | |||
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