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"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk " Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? | |||
"" I hope you will get well soon "" Much appreciated but I'm fine thanks- have kept away.. I am struggling to find sympathy and is this the 'common sense' Boris wanted from the public in respect to his employer? | |||
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"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? " there is no reason he cant have the vaccine he is just an idiot | |||
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"I’d say “I hope you feel better soon” " Exactly the same. | |||
"I hope they recover well. That's all that they need to be told. They need kindness, empathy and understanding. "  | |||
"... refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. " It is no longer a legal requirement to self isolate if you test positive | |||
" The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. " I am baffled why an employer would want someone Covid positive coming into work | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" You say ’im sorry you're I'll and not doing too well. Is there anything I can do to help? Do you need me to get anything for you? Medication etc? I hope you start to feel better soon'. Anything negative or gloating is just dickish behaviour in my opinion. | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" When you say he’s very ill? What is that ? | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" Hope you get well soon, if you need any shopping, let me know. What else can you say. Start lecturing someone it can become a peeing contest. Hope they get better soon, had it ourselves, wouldn't wish it on anyone.  | |||
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"I’d say “I hope you feel better soon” Exactly the same." Plus 1 for this | |||
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"Why do you think he was more certain to find exposure on a pub crawl than at work or on public transport ?" As he drives to work and works in a back office on his own, very low chances.. | |||
"I don't think blocking your boss's number is a good move" Why not - it's actually illegal in employment law to harass someone off sick? | |||
"I don't think blocking your boss's number is a good move Why not - it's actually illegal in employment law to harass someone off sick?" What if he was wanting to offer a pay rise and couldn't get through ? | |||
"I don't think blocking your boss's number is a good move Why not - it's actually illegal in employment law to harass someone off sick?" Where does he work? If his boss is demanding he goes into work when sick, he probably caught it at work and just spread it round the pub crawl. | |||
"I’d say “I hope you feel better soon” " Same..probably offer to help with shopping etc We don't need to keep dividing over this. | |||
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"I’d say “I hope you feel better soon” Same..probably offer to help with shopping etc We don't need to keep dividing over this. " This | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk " How does it put sensible employees at more risk? Us vaccinated people have more protection than the unvaccinated. It doesn’t stop us from catching but it does reduce the likelihood of serious symptoms (until efficacy wanes). It also doesn’t stop us from transmitting (although there is a school of thought that the vaccinated are infectious for less time - if someone can point me to that research would be grateful). In addition because the vaccine reduces symptoms, it is possible for us to be infectious without knowing it and attending work. So in actual fact your unvaccinated co-worker is more at risk from you then you from them! | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk How does it put sensible employees at more risk? Us vaccinated people have more protection than the unvaccinated. It doesn’t stop us from catching but it does reduce the likelihood of serious symptoms (until efficacy wanes). It also doesn’t stop us from transmitting (although there is a school of thought that the vaccinated are infectious for less time - if someone can point me to that research would be grateful). In addition because the vaccine reduces symptoms, it is possible for us to be infectious without knowing it and attending work. So in actual fact your unvaccinated co-worker is more at risk from you then you from them!" Stop that nonsense everyone knows the unvaccinated are to blame... Its almost the law.. | |||
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"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need " That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague!" he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" Get well soon, hopefully | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview " But that still doesn’t answer your initial point... “it puts sensible employees at more risk” | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague!" It appears that the unvaccinated are now not "normal people" either. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! It appears that the unvaccinated are now not "normal people" either. " the majority of people are vaccinated so it is not normal to be unvaccinated | |||
"Very black n white.. They've had all the get well soon wishes, offers of support you'd expect.. not that heartless. But, wouldn't be as ill as he is now if vaccinated. He didn't refuse for conspiracy reasons, he is medically fine to have had it but said he'll let others make the heard. Don't know why people assume Covid has gone, it's very much still with us. So, to go out on a pub crawl, it was a certain he find exposure. Extreme headaches, uncontrollable shivers and struggling with breathing. Certainly not the cold people say it will be. Employers want you in work, it's no longer legal requirement, so why aren't you in. He's blocked bosses number, 3 calls a day demanding he goes in." You can't say for sure he wouldn't be as ill if he had the vaccine. If it was a given no one vaccinated would end up in the hospital. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! It appears that the unvaccinated are now not "normal people" either. the majority of people are vaccinated so it is not normal to be unvaccinated " They're still people, they haven't developed super powers that make them abnormal. By definition normal means the expected and when it comes to vaccination status you shouldn't expect to know if someone is or isn't regardless as to the ratio of vaccinated to unvaccinated. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! It appears that the unvaccinated are now not "normal people" either. the majority of people are vaccinated so it is not normal to be unvaccinated " Right so you cannot explain your initial comment saying “it puts sensible employees at more risk”? | |||
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"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview " What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! It appears that the unvaccinated are now not "normal people" either. the majority of people are vaccinated so it is not normal to be unvaccinated Right so you cannot explain your initial comment saying “it puts sensible employees at more risk”?" I class myself as sensible I take all reasonable precautions to avoid getting covid I did get it at work beginning of last year before vacc available I am old & have heart problems so do not want to catch it again. I do not want to come into contact with unvaccinated who are more lightly to catch & spread the disease | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work?" they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" "All the best for your recovery." It's not worth it. Don't engage. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! It appears that the unvaccinated are now not "normal people" either. the majority of people are vaccinated so it is not normal to be unvaccinated Right so you cannot explain your initial comment saying “it puts sensible employees at more risk”? I class myself as sensible I take all reasonable precautions to avoid getting covid I did get it at work beginning of last year before vacc available I am old & have heart problems so do not want to catch it again. I do not want to come into contact with unvaccinated who are more lightly to catch & spread the disease " I understand your concern and applaud you for being careful and taking precautions. But it is concerning that you think unvaccinated people are more dangerous to you than vaccinated. I think that gives a false sense of security around the vaccinated. The unvaccinated are more likely to know they are ill and sooner and take precautions. Vaccinated people have less severe symptoms and may not even know they are contagious and thus take no precautions. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste " But not about vaccination for any other communicable diseases? | |||
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"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste But not about vaccination for any other communicable diseases? " Exactly this. Tetanus is infectious but not contagious. They won't have asked the vaccination status of that to protect other employees, only to make sure the person being interviewed is themselves protected. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste But not about vaccination for any other communicable diseases? Exactly this. Tetanus is infectious but not contagious. They won't have asked the vaccination status of that to protect other employees, only to make sure the person being interviewed is themselves protected. " no they do not care about the heath & safety of employees just profit & having paper work so they are not liable | |||
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"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste But not about vaccination for any other communicable diseases? Exactly this. Tetanus is infectious but not contagious. They won't have asked the vaccination status of that to protect other employees, only to make sure the person being interviewed is themselves protected. no they do not care about the heath & safety of employees just profit & having paper work so they are not liable " Sounds like you need a new job my friend. | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste But not about vaccination for any other communicable diseases? Exactly this. Tetanus is infectious but not contagious. They won't have asked the vaccination status of that to protect other employees, only to make sure the person being interviewed is themselves protected. no they do not care about the heath & safety of employees just profit & having paper work so they are not liable Sounds like you need a new job my friend. " I am too old to get another job too young to get pension so we are stuck with each other for a few more years | |||
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"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need That is your prerogative (although you are also conflating “unvaccinated” with “anti-vax” when the latter is clearly only a subgroup of the former) but you still haven’t answered my question re work colleague! he chooses to be at higher risk by not being vaccinated not my problem if he gets ill. my employer is at fault not asking the right questions at interview What other medical in confidence questions do they ask at interview at your place of work? they ask about lung health & tetanus vaccination sometimes as there is risk from working with waste But not about vaccination for any other communicable diseases? Exactly this. Tetanus is infectious but not contagious. They won't have asked the vaccination status of that to protect other employees, only to make sure the person being interviewed is themselves protected. no they do not care about the heath & safety of employees just profit & having paper work so they are not liable Sounds like you need a new job my friend. I am too old to get another job too young to get pension so we are stuck with each other for a few more years " I'm 61, I started my new job 4 months ago and I've had 5 in the last three years. | |||
"What would you say to someone who is triple vaxed and boostered and gets ill? Absolute bollocks post. Wish them a speedy recovery. You do you and let them do them. Simple. " 100%..my neighbour is down with covid.. Bad flu like symptoms according to his wife.. He's Triple jabbed. | |||
"What would you say to someone who is triple vaxed and boostered and gets ill? Absolute bollocks post. Wish them a speedy recovery. You do you and let them do them. Simple. " 100%..my neighbour is down with covid.. Bad flu like symptoms according to his wife.. He's Triple jabbed. | |||
"What would you say to someone who is triple vaxed and boostered and gets ill? Absolute bollocks post. Wish them a speedy recovery. You do you and let them do them. Simple. 100%..my neighbour is down with covid.. Bad flu like symptoms according to his wife.. He's Triple jabbed. " My stepmom who is in her 50s only got her second jab in December, within a week her previously mild arthritis flared up to the point where she is now legally disabled. 2+ years without catching covid pre jab she also just tested positive 11 days ago and was extremely poorly with it. Only barely coming out of it now. She also infected my 18 year old brother and sister who both are also double jabbed and are extremely poorly with it right now. I have not had the jab at all and had covid in August (before omicron) while I had cancer (still have cancer but its irrelevant) - mild cold symptoms, mild temperature, slight tiredness and taste and smell gone for about a week. Dirk is not jabbed - same symptoms. Go figure | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? there is no reason he cant have the vaccine he is just an idiot " So someone with a differing opinion of yourself is automatically an idiot. Theres lots of extremely well educated people who have refused the vax but in no way are they idiots. Tbf, im more inclined to call the bigots who slag none vaxxed folk off idiots instead. Oh, im 3x jabbed before the rants begin | |||
"I have zero sympathy with people who could be vaccinated but choose not to have it. they miss understand the statistics . they put normal people at more risk & block medical capacity so people dont get the treatment they need " I have every sympathy with those who’ve taken the vaccine and suffered Ill effects | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? there is no reason he cant have the vaccine he is just an idiot So someone with a differing opinion of yourself is automatically an idiot. Theres lots of extremely well educated people who have refused the vax but in no way are they idiots. Tbf, im more inclined to call the bigots who slag none vaxxed folk off idiots instead. Oh, im 3x jabbed before the rants begin" You are also an idiot if you do not have solar panels on your roof according to a certain poster. | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? there is no reason he cant have the vaccine he is just an idiot So someone with a differing opinion of yourself is automatically an idiot. Theres lots of extremely well educated people who have refused the vax but in no way are they idiots. Tbf, im more inclined to call the bigots who slag none vaxxed folk off idiots instead. Oh, im 3x jabbed before the rants begin" I work with him, he is an idiot fails to understand simple tasks | |||
 ,not only that, people were actually getting ill with covid,so many colleagues at work, didn't see that before the jabs came,now we are in a situation were it doesn't seem to matter anymore, and well if the jab was so effective then why would the vaxxed be so worried about the unvaxxed,most of them don't,but there seem to be some people who do, now the Pfizer documents have become public...read the 9!! pages on the side effects...and now we got the next crisis...hope your immune system is intact next winter, and then we having this discussion on a swingers site, if you are that worried and want to exclude the unvaxxed what are you doing here?
Let's stick together in times where we absolutely need to! | |||
"I choose to wait and see,not anti Vax,but they said that vaccines were the only way out of this,so called pandemic,right from the beginning,any other remedies were dismissed,what was wrong to do,so they developed these so called jabs within a year,and pushed,forced them onto the public,big business,and so effective,96%!!they said,so as I was still waiting,within 6 months they were so effective people were taking their 3rd already ,not only that, people were actually getting ill with covid,so many colleagues at work, didn't see that before the jabs came,now we are in a situation were it doesn't seem to matter anymore, and well if the jab was so effective then why would the vaxxed be so worried about the unvaxxed,most of them don't,but there seem to be some people who do, now the Pfizer documents have become public...read the 9!! pages on the side effects...and now we got the next crisis...hope your immune system is intact next winter, and then we having this discussion on a swingers site, if you are that worried and want to exclude the unvaxxed what are you doing here?
Let's stick together in times where we absolutely need to!"“So called pandemic” “So called jabs”…..  | |||
"I choose to wait and see,not anti Vax,but they said that vaccines were the only way out of this,so called pandemic,right from the beginning,any other remedies were dismissed,what was wrong to do,so they developed these so called jabs within a year,and pushed,forced them onto the public,big business,and so effective,96%!!they said,so as I was still waiting,within 6 months they were so effective people were taking their 3rd already ,not only that, people were actually getting ill with covid,so many colleagues at work, didn't see that before the jabs came,now we are in a situation were it doesn't seem to matter anymore, and well if the jab was so effective then why would the vaxxed be so worried about the unvaxxed,most of them don't,but there seem to be some people who do, now the Pfizer documents have become public...read the 9!! pages on the side effects...and now we got the next crisis...hope your immune system is intact next winter, and then we having this discussion on a swingers site, if you are that worried and want to exclude the unvaxxed what are you doing here?
Let's stick together in times where we absolutely need to!
“So called pandemic” “So called jabs”….. "I'm Dutch, so if my typing caused any confusion,LOL, my apologies | |||
"I choose to wait and see,not anti Vax,but they said that vaccines were the only way out of this,so called pandemic,right from the beginning,any other remedies were dismissed,what was wrong to do,so they developed these so called jabs within a year,and pushed,forced them onto the public,big business,and so effective,96%!!they said,so as I was still waiting,within 6 months they were so effective people were taking their 3rd already ,not only that, people were actually getting ill with covid,so many colleagues at work, didn't see that before the jabs came,now we are in a situation were it doesn't seem to matter anymore, and well if the jab was so effective then why would the vaxxed be so worried about the unvaxxed,most of them don't,but there seem to be some people who do, now the Pfizer documents have become public...read the 9!! pages on the side effects...and now we got the next crisis...hope your immune system is intact next winter, and then we having this discussion on a swingers site, if you are that worried and want to exclude the unvaxxed what are you doing here?
Let's stick together in times where we absolutely need to!
“So called pandemic” “So called jabs”….. "Sorry but I really have to add this as well... So called punctuation! | |||
"I choose to wait and see,not anti Vax,but they said that vaccines were the only way out of this,so called pandemic,right from the beginning,any other remedies were dismissed,what was wrong to do,so they developed these so called jabs within a year,and pushed,forced them onto the public,big business,and so effective,96%!!they said,so as I was still waiting,within 6 months they were so effective people were taking their 3rd already ,not only that, people were actually getting ill with covid,so many colleagues at work, didn't see that before the jabs came,now we are in a situation were it doesn't seem to matter anymore, and well if the jab was so effective then why would the vaxxed be so worried about the unvaxxed,most of them don't,but there seem to be some people who do, now the Pfizer documents have become public...read the 9!! pages on the side effects...and now we got the next crisis...hope your immune system is intact next winter, and then we having this discussion on a swingers site, if you are that worried and want to exclude the unvaxxed what are you doing here?
Let's stick together in times where we absolutely need to!
“So called pandemic” “So called jabs”…..
Sorry but I really have to add this as well...
So called punctuation!"Apologies i didn't actually even meant to reply on this forum I was only looking for a meet | |||
" The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. I am baffled why an employer would want someone Covid positive coming into work" If that employer is a micromanager/karen/antivax, then that could be one expalintion. Uncaring bosses are really horrible. | |||
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"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" Get well soon?!? | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? there is no reason he cant have the vaccine he is just an idiot " So you're actually saying if someone doesn't have the vaccine, they're idiots? Don't get me wrong, I've had the vaccine but I still believe in free choice. I chose to have the vaccine as many people did but just because someone decided not to have the vaccine, that makes it their choice Nobody is in a position to say someone else is not sensible or is an idiot as regards the vaccine. It's called free choice. | |||
"Nobody is in a position to say someone else is not sensible or is an idiot as regards the vaccine. It's called free choice. " If it was a close family member, left bereaved by a partner who didn't take the vaccine, I'd think it reasonable for them to call said partner an idiot. And perhaps someone who's done years of medical research in this field and knows their stuff would have a meaningful right to call said deceased an idiot. Free Will does not confer immunity from making idiotic decisions. | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" You guys not get on? | |||
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"Nobody is in a position to say someone else is not sensible or is an idiot as regards the vaccine. It's called free choice. If it was a close family member, left bereaved by a partner who didn't take the vaccine, I'd think it reasonable for them to call said partner an idiot. And perhaps someone who's done years of medical research in this field and knows their stuff would have a meaningful right to call said deceased an idiot. Free Will does not confer immunity from making idiotic decisions." As you obviously have decades if not centuries of experience, do tell me how any are idiots. Now, and obviously I bow to your superior knowledge and also to those who are actually qualified and professional butby having the vaccine, does that make family members, vulnerable or not, immune from getting the virus? Now, far be it from me to know anything but I thought the vaccine was for the individual taking it not for someone else. So, the vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus and also doesn't stop you passing it on, correct? So, irrespective whether a person has the vaccine or not, it doesn't actually protect other people only the person having it. Therefore, why would it matter whether a close family member has it or not. It's their choice. That's free will. By all means, and as I do said, i bow down to your vast experience (notwithstanding that my close relative is a virologist and immunologist and has 47 years in that field) and he won't have it, so tell me and the baying public, how by having the vaccine can stop the possible demise of a close relative by having the vaccine. The vaccine, as in any vaccine or medication, will help the person not others . Like having a headache, it's your choice to take pain killers or not. | |||
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"I would say "Hope you get better soon" to all the vulnerable people he may have infected." (With quote) Then you will also need to say that to all the vaccinated people who also may have infected vulnerable people!  | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk " What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status " | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status " Exactly. Well said | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status " I is my business if it puts my health a greater risk than necessary. I caught covid at work last year due to management pushing people with symptoms but no positive test to come into work | |||
"Are his positive friends vaccinated ?" Not sure of his friends vaccine status, his wife has been. She is quite poorly but better than would have been if hadn't had it I guess. | |||
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"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status I is my business if it puts my health a greater risk than necessary. I caught covid at work last year due to management pushing people with symptoms but no positive test to come into work " I'm really starting to question if you're trolling everyone here deliberately as multiple people have explained in detail about how anyone else's vaccine status doesn't affect your health or risk with credible sources proving their logic, but you keep insisting it does. Genuinely feel sorry for your Co worker as he's the one who has to put up with it day in day out. That said - your boss is the one who's the real asshole. Not because he didn't ask for vaccine status. Because he's pushing people who are unwell to come into work. Missus | |||
"Are his positive friends vaccinated ? Not sure of his friends vaccine status, his wife has been. She is quite poorly but better than would have been if hadn't had it I guess." She sounds it… her severe tremors and puking! | |||
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"" I hope you will get well soon " Much appreciated but I'm fine thanks- have kept away.. I am struggling to find sympathy and is this the 'common sense' Boris wanted from the public in respect to his employer?" is this the same Boris who was having party’s with his work colleagues whilst he instructed the rest of the plebs to stay indoors and protect the nhs ? | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status I is my business if it puts my health a greater risk than necessary. I caught covid at work last year due to management pushing people with symptoms but no positive test to come into work " Why doesn't your workplace have health and safety measures in place during a pandemic? Sounds like it's your employer that's at fault rather than an employees vaccination status | |||
"Very black n white.. They've had all the get well soon wishes, offers of support you'd expect.. not that heartless. But, wouldn't be as ill as he is now if vaccinated. He didn't refuse for conspiracy reasons, he is medically fine to have had it but said he'll let others make the heard. Don't know why people assume Covid has gone, it's very much still with us. So, to go out on a pub crawl, it was a certain he find exposure. Extreme headaches, uncontrollable shivers and struggling with breathing. Certainly not the cold people say it will be. Employers want you in work, it's no longer legal requirement, so why aren't you in. He's blocked bosses number, 3 calls a day demanding he goes in." How do you know he wouldn’t be as ill? | |||
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"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status I is my business if it puts my health a greater risk than necessary. I caught covid at work last year due to management pushing people with symptoms but no positive test to come into work " So tell me where it says you cannot contract or pass covid on if you're vaccinated? That's your company you're whinging about not generally | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk What rubbish… none of your business anyones vaccination status I is my business if it puts my health a greater risk than necessary. I caught covid at work last year due to management pushing people with symptoms but no positive test to come into work I'm really starting to question if you're trolling everyone here deliberately as multiple people have explained in detail about how anyone else's vaccine status doesn't affect your health or risk with credible sources proving their logic, but you keep insisting it does. Genuinely feel sorry for your Co worker as he's the one who has to put up with it day in day out. That said - your boss is the one who's the real asshole. Not because he didn't ask for vaccine status. Because he's pushing people who are unwell to come into work. Missus " Well said and direct to the point | |||
"" I hope you will get well soon " Much appreciated but I'm fine thanks- have kept away.. I am struggling to find sympathy and is this the 'common sense' Boris wanted from the public in respect to his employer?is this the same Boris who was having party’s with his work colleagues whilst he instructed the rest of the plebs to stay indoors and protect the nhs ? " Allegedly | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" Hey guys How do I convey a sense of smugness in a 'I told you so' way, whilst maintaining my 'I'm a caring sort of person' facade that I've been carrying around proudly since getting vaccinated like the hero I am | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them? Hey guys How do I convey a sense of smugness in a 'I told you so' way, whilst maintaining my 'I'm a caring sort of person' facade that I've been carrying around proudly since getting vaccinated like the hero I am " A clear sign of passive aggressive behaviour. | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them? Hey guys How do I convey a sense of smugness in a 'I told you so' way, whilst maintaining my 'I'm a caring sort of person' facade that I've been carrying around proudly since getting vaccinated like the hero I am " Same way I did.. "You're a tosser, you've put your own and your wife's lives at risk as well as worrying your mother, who you also put at risk as she was at yours the day before you tested positive". The response was strangely quiet. Nothing smug, just the truth. | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them? Hey guys How do I convey a sense of smugness in a 'I told you so' way, whilst maintaining my 'I'm a caring sort of person' facade that I've been carrying around proudly since getting vaccinated like the hero I am Same way I did.. "You're a tosser, you've put your own and your wife's lives at risk as well as worrying your mother, who you also put at risk as she was at yours the day before you tested positive". The response was strangely quiet. Nothing smug, just the truth." If you said that to me (if I was unvaccinated) would be: “it’s my choice to decide what level of risk I am prepared to take with my own health/life but can you explain how I have put my wife or mother at risk by me not being vaccinated?” | |||
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"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic." Could he not get covid by being vaccinated? He can still contract covid and still pass it on regardless of his vaccination status | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them? You say ’im sorry you're I'll and not doing too well. Is there anything I can do to help? Do you need me to get anything for you? Medication etc? I hope you start to feel better soon'. Anything negative or gloating is just dickish behaviour in my opinion. " This x | |||
"I don't think blocking your boss's number is a good move Why not - it's actually illegal in employment law to harass someone off sick?" This is true they are not allowed to contact them whilst of sick x | |||
"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic." I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? | |||
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"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why?" Ever had the feeling you're pushing water uphill? | |||
"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? Ever had the feeling you're pushing water uphill? " With a sieve | |||
"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? Ever had the feeling you're pushing water uphill? " It is a burden some of us have to bare.  | |||
"" I hope you will get well soon " Much appreciated but I'm fine thanks- have kept away.. I am struggling to find sympathy and is this the 'common sense' Boris wanted from the public in respect to his employer?" He wasn't meaning you. You clearly are selfish and just wanting to get on your high horse about it. He's meaning, that is what you say to your friend. Maybe he's better off without such a judgemental person as a friend ? P.s. I am fully vaccinated, so not an anti vac nut job, but I do respect other people's decisions. I also understand why people would be wary about taking it. | |||
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"I know two people who have both had the vaccine twice and boosters, and now both have COVID for the second time, they can still transmit it to others who are vaccinated or unvaccinated, just unlucky I guess if they had a 4th vaccine injection they might have more protection" Yes seems to be effective | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk " So someone shouldn't get employed due to their own personal medical history? Shocking statement. | |||
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"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why?" I never said being unvaccinated put anyone else at risk, it was going on a 6 location pub crawl - pissed up and man hugging every other d*unk would have. Absolutely, he has put himself at risk of a bad outcome. Long story short, if he'd stayed home that Saturday night. No of them would have caught it. Hope that makes more sense.. | |||
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"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? I never said being unvaccinated put anyone else at risk, it was going on a 6 location pub crawl - pissed up and man hugging every other d*unk would have. Absolutely, he has put himself at risk of a bad outcome. Long story short, if he'd stayed home that Saturday night. No of them would have caught it. Hope that makes more sense.." Right do you point had NOTHING to fo with this fella being unvaccinated! That really wasn’t obvious when you opening post started as follows... “a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much” | |||
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"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why?" How did he? | |||
"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? I never said being unvaccinated put anyone else at risk, it was going on a 6 location pub crawl - pissed up and man hugging every other d*unk would have. Absolutely, he has put himself at risk of a bad outcome. Long story short, if he'd stayed home that Saturday night. No of them would have caught it. Hope that makes more sense.." So would he going out on a Friday be better? | |||
"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? I never said being unvaccinated put anyone else at risk, it was going on a 6 location pub crawl - pissed up and man hugging every other d*unk would have. Absolutely, he has put himself at risk of a bad outcome. Long story short, if he'd stayed home that Saturday night. No of them would have caught it. Hope that makes more sense.." Would have made perfect sense had you not made their vaccination status the main theme of your op. | |||
"I'm a little more brash than you.. Very diplomatic - with me a spades a spade.. Don't have an issue with his refusing to vaccinate but I do have a problem with walking into a pub regardless of status, then going home to family with virus transported with him. TBH - He gets called tosser quite a lot, caught drink driving being another time. Day 9 and 6, both still very unwell and still positive and symptomatic. I obviously didn’t write that very well as you completely missed my point... Why do you think he was putting wife and mother in more danger by being unvaccinated? He has put himself in more danger but them? Why? I never said being unvaccinated put anyone else at risk, it was going on a 6 location pub crawl - pissed up and man hugging every other d*unk would have. Absolutely, he has put himself at risk of a bad outcome. Long story short, if he'd stayed home that Saturday night. No of them would have caught it. Hope that makes more sense.. Right do you point had NOTHING to fo with this fella being unvaccinated! That really wasn’t obvious when you opening post started as follows... “a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much”" Just read this back...bloody typos!!!!!! Right SO YOUR point had NOTHING to DO with this fella being unvaccinated! That really wasn’t obvious when YOUR opening post started as follows... | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk " That's a bit nonsensical for so many reasons. Firstly. The vaccine is no guarantee of contagion. Secondly. The vaccine lasts approximately 5 to 6 months at best. So you'd have to get them every 6 months forever to be covered (even though they don't cover you). Thirdly. You put yourself at risk for many things the minute you leave your house. Instead of living in existential dread, try living. You might enjoy yourself. | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk That's a bit nonsensical for so many reasons. Firstly. The vaccine is no guarantee of contagion. Secondly. The vaccine lasts approximately 5 to 6 months at best. So you'd have to get them every 6 months forever to be covered (even though they don't cover you). Thirdly. You put yourself at risk for many things the minute you leave your house. Instead of living in existential dread, try living. You might enjoy yourself." Don't talk crap, the vaccine doesn't just last 5-6 months you clown. | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk That's a bit nonsensical for so many reasons. Firstly. The vaccine is no guarantee of contagion. Secondly. The vaccine lasts approximately 5 to 6 months at best. So you'd have to get them every 6 months forever to be covered (even though they don't cover you). Thirdly. You put yourself at risk for many things the minute you leave your house. Instead of living in existential dread, try living. You might enjoy yourself. Don't talk crap, the vaccine doesn't just last 5-6 months you clown. " The Chief medical officer of the UKHSA would beg to differ... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/10/two-jabs-give-less-protection-against-catching-omicron-than-delta-uk-data-shows | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk That's a bit nonsensical for so many reasons. Firstly. The vaccine is no guarantee of contagion. Secondly. The vaccine lasts approximately 5 to 6 months at best. So you'd have to get them every 6 months forever to be covered (even though they don't cover you). Thirdly. You put yourself at risk for many things the minute you leave your house. Instead of living in existential dread, try living. You might enjoy yourself. Don't talk crap, the vaccine doesn't just last 5-6 months you clown. " I can't believe I have to explain this to a grown adult, ok here goes. Vaccines do not for the most part last a life time. Just a small example. Why do you think flu Vaccines are given yearly? Not just because of different strains but because over time they become less effective. The latest study from new York suggests that the vaccine drops from around %95 effectiveness to just under %70 in 6 months. This is a well established fact. Why do you think boosters are a thing? Do you think you need a booster every 6 months if it doesn't wear off? It's very simple logic. I'm not going to state where I get my information as I'd like tonretain my privacy. However what I will say is my other half is involved with the vaccine and patient systems in place. They have access to this information. It's common knowledge. I said at the start that the vaccine isn't a guarantee of safety. Everyone said I was a conspiracy theorist. A year later while doing audits it was discovered %80 of admitted covid cases were vaccinated. A lot of them within 6 months. So from this clown, kindly shove your poorly informed opinion right up your arse | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk So someone shouldn't get employed due to their own personal medical history? Shocking statement." unfortunately that is true for most people I am old & have some medical problems both of these factors reduce my attractiveness to employers making it difficult for me to get another job | |||
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"... refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. It is no longer a legal requirement to self isolate if you test positive" There's no law against jumping off a cliff but sensible people still don't do it. | |||
"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" "Get well soon" They are family and very ill so why would I be a dick? C | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk That's a bit nonsensical for so many reasons. Firstly. The vaccine is no guarantee of contagion. Secondly. The vaccine lasts approximately 5 to 6 months at best. So you'd have to get them every 6 months forever to be covered (even though they don't cover you). Thirdly. You put yourself at risk for many things the minute you leave your house. Instead of living in existential dread, try living. You might enjoy yourself. Don't talk crap, the vaccine doesn't just last 5-6 months you clown. I can't believe I have to explain this to a grown adult, ok here goes. Vaccines do not for the most part last a life time. Just a small example. Why do you think flu Vaccines are given yearly? Not just because of different strains but because over time they become less effective. The latest study from new York suggests that the vaccine drops from around %95 effectiveness to just under %70 in 6 months. This is a well established fact. Why do you think boosters are a thing? Do you think you need a booster every 6 months if it doesn't wear off? It's very simple logic. I'm not going to state where I get my information as I'd like tonretain my privacy. However what I will say is my other half is involved with the vaccine and patient systems in place. They have access to this information. It's common knowledge. I said at the start that the vaccine isn't a guarantee of safety. Everyone said I was a conspiracy theorist. A year later while doing audits it was discovered %80 of admitted covid cases were vaccinated. A lot of them within 6 months. So from this clown, kindly shove your poorly informed opinion right up your arse "Well, tbf, considering that your profile says that you're looking for friends, it's not likely you'd get any, certainly not on her with your attitude. Perhaps talking to people properly without your obvious distaste for anyone that doesn't share your opinion. You don't want to share where you got the information. Hahahaha, so it's that good? I can see that you'll make lots of friends on here, probably with the ones you think you can bully | |||
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"To be fair he was responding to someone who called him a clown. So...!!!! Be nice if folks were able to have discussion and accept different perspectives without resorting to insults. Too many keyboard warriors! " I understand that but a man would be able to rise above that and not sink to the insulting rhetoric. Don't forget, others are looking at his responses and may decide on his inability to rise above negative responses that they don't want him as a friend which his profile says he is | |||
"Some right bed wetters on this site, lol" So many lost but righteously defend their cult while lying in a bed of their own pi*s | |||
"Just to add though, I thought the need for boosters was two fold: 1) A reduction in vaccine efficacy over time. 2) That Covid is a virus and viruses mutate and the vaccines need to be adjusted to be more effective against a new variant(s). Point 2 is certainly the case with the Flu vaccines." It seems the vaccines are now effective for much longer than the 3 months that led to the first round of boosters.... | |||
"Just to add though, I thought the need for boosters was two fold: 1) A reduction in vaccine efficacy over time. 2) That Covid is a virus and viruses mutate and the vaccines need to be adjusted to be more effective against a new variant(s). Point 2 is certainly the case with the Flu vaccines. It seems the vaccines are now effective for much longer than the 3 months that led to the first round of boosters.... " I can’t keep up! | |||
"Just to add though, I thought the need for boosters was two fold: 1) A reduction in vaccine efficacy over time. 2) That Covid is a virus and viruses mutate and the vaccines need to be adjusted to be more effective against a new variant(s). Point 2 is certainly the case with the Flu vaccines. It seems the vaccines are now effective for much longer than the 3 months that led to the first round of boosters.... I can’t keep up!" Most people are struggling to keep up. It's a firehose of information all the time | |||
"I’d say “I hope you feel better soon” " This . | |||
"I’d say “I hope you feel better soon” This ."Exactly. Be humble. Hope they feel better soon. | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk Ah so people who can't have the vaccine aren't sensible? there is no reason he cant have the vaccine he is just an idiot " But what about his personal free choice you reall fancy being told what you can do or not do thumbs up to him | |||
"I have no sympathy I work with someone who is not vaccinated & I dont think my employer should have employed him knowing he is not vaccinated, it puts sensible employees at more risk " I am vaccinated before you think otherwise… But please can you explain your rational about “it puts sensible employees at more risk” We know the vaccine doesn’t stop you contracting the virus, it doesn’t stop transmission and we are now lead to believe that 3 doses of the vaccine do not give you long term cover of a less severe reaction. So please explain your rational as I’m interested to understand what you are thinking. | |||
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"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" If they have refused the vaccination, its there choice, but to go out knowing you could spread it to other people is extremely selfish and on top of all that sleeps with his wife knowing he has it etc, he deserves all he gets in my opinion. There are not only vulnerable people out there but also the NHS who have worked tirelessly through the pandemic in order to keep people safe and your family member couldn't give a fuck. Yes we have lives to live but I'm not in the slightest sympathetic for him. In actual fact I hope it teaches him a lesson in future | |||
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"What absolute garbage. The vaccinated are the ones suffering. How on earth can a unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? If the vaccine dosnt stop you catching or spreading why take it? Further more if 2 shots dont work how the hell will 4. " How are vaccinated people suffering? | |||
"What absolute garbage. The vaccinated are the ones suffering. How on earth can a unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? If the vaccine dosnt stop you catching or spreading why take it? Further more if 2 shots dont work how the hell will 4. " I stopped at 2! Honestly wish I hadn't had any! Had my diabetic nurse tell me yesterday u have not had your booster! I said no I'm not having it she didn't question me just said can I put that on your notes I said sure! Personal choice as it shd b x | |||
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"What absolute garbage. The vaccinated are the ones suffering. How on earth can a unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? If the vaccine dosnt stop you catching or spreading why take it? Further more if 2 shots dont work how the hell will 4. " I think we've gone past the point of unvaccinated being responsible for passing it on to others. But , it's proven that with a recent shot, you have less chance of being seriously ill if catching it. So thats the point. If you don't believe that part then so be it | |||
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"... a family member who refused vaccination, then went on a pub crawl last Saturday, caught COVID and most likely Omicron after banging on for weeks how the new 'cold' won't affect him much He is now very ill.. The first 4 days, his employer was phoning and insisting he returned to work. Anyway, thats not happening now as taken a turn for the worst since. His wife, a severe asthma sufferer has continued to share a bed with him, neither have worn masks in the presence of each other, windows have remained shut, then refused to test as she'd have to stay off work - today tested positive. What do you say to them?" Nothing. You say nothing to them. It was their choice not to have the vaccination and now they have it, there’s no point in rubbing salt into the wound and they won’t care anyway. My sister refused to have the vaccine and caught Covid, her response? “Well I don’t need the vaccine now as my body will have its own antibodies to the virus” she really doesn’t get the point of it at all | |||
"https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-data-shows-vaccines-reduce-risk-of-hospitalisation-and-death-but-you-need-to-read-it-with-a-clear-head-12365728 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1388822/lockdown-latest-covid-vaccine-news-matt-hancock-end-of-lockdown/amp. Its all there for people to see" Read the first article. 2.8x as many unvaccinated people are dying than vaccinated "per case". | |||
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