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By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago
birmingham |
"I went 2 years without it, then caught it in May this year. At the tail end of how effective the booster was.
Thankfully haven’t caught it again, but it wasn’t pleasant that’s for sure  "
it hasnt been to bad really, just like a bad cold but with a much worse chesty cough. |
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By *red333Man
over a year ago
Dorchester |
"I have done well avoiding it for so long, but it has finally got me luckily i just had my third booster a month ago.
Anyone still waiting for to be hit for the first time ?"
you've put it in the wrong section though should be in the "covid" section  |
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"I have done well avoiding it for so long, but it has finally got me luckily i just had my third booster a month ago.
Anyone still waiting for to be hit for the first time ?you've put it in the wrong section though should be in the "covid" section "
I'm sure it'll be moved when a mod sees it - and the OP has acknowledged his mistake. |
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Had it once very mild symptoms! Took a test yesterday as have cold bad chest as wanted to go c new great grandson but it's negative xwill hold of seeing him till next week as little mite don't want a cold x |
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By *G1988Couple
over a year ago
East Yorkshire |
"I have done well avoiding it for so long, but it has finally got me luckily i just had my third booster a month ago.
Anyone still waiting for to be hit for the first time ?"
Good to see all 3 work then…  |
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We've had it, Mr in October 2020 (pre vaccines), no symptoms only took test because a family member had symptoms but I was actually the only one in household of frontline workers to be positive. Then we both had it September this year. Flu symptoms and quite rough, he got it worse (obviously man flu) 3 jabs in. We won't be having anymore boosters. |
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"I have done well avoiding it for so long, but it has finally got me luckily i just had my third booster a month ago.
Anyone still waiting for to be hit for the first time ?"
I hope you survive and live to tell the tale |
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Friend of mine is ill with it now for 3rd time, this time it has hit him hard. Had his 4th jab a month ago too. He now fully believes the severity has increased with the jabs.
Grabbed him some shopping yesterday and gave him an ear to rant too for 15 mins.
I doubt he'll get any more jabs. |
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I have felt horrid for 3 weeks and I've only just tested positive and to top it off I've also got a kidney infection .I'm trying to stay up as I have to get the kid up for school; otherwise I would be dying quietly in bed . |
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"Friend of mine is ill with it now for 3rd time, this time it has hit him hard. Had his 4th jab a month ago too. He now fully believes the severity has increased with the jabs.
Grabbed him some shopping yesterday and gave him an ear to rant too for 15 mins.
I doubt he'll get any more jabs."
Alot won't b! I stopped at 2! Got it on my notes at docs now so I don't get the reminder texts my diabetic nurse put it on there at my last check up! hope ur friend feels better soon x |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"Does anyone know the take up rate of the 4th vaccination for over 50s ?"
ive not had the 4th and wont be, and out of the over 50s i do know its only the ones in there mid 60s and over that seem to be getting jabbed, others seem to not be bothering, know thats just a small snapshot of the population, but would be intresting to know how many aint having more than the first three
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"Does anyone know the take up rate of the 4th vaccination for over 50s ?ive not had the 4th and wont be, and out of the over 50s i do know its only the ones in there mid 60s and over that seem to be getting jabbed, others seem to not be bothering, know thats just a small snapshot of the population, but would be intresting to know how many aint having more than the first three"
Not easy to find the figures. The take up of over 75s was 80%+ at the beginning of July. The news said the the take up rate for over 50s was around only around 50% at the beginning of November. |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"Does anyone know the take up rate of the 4th vaccination for over 50s ?ive not had the 4th and wont be, and out of the over 50s i do know its only the ones in there mid 60s and over that seem to be getting jabbed, others seem to not be bothering, know thats just a small snapshot of the population, but would be intresting to know how many aint having more than the first three
Not easy to find the figures. The take up of over 75s was 80%+ at the beginning of July. The news said the the take up rate for over 50s was around only around 50% at the beginning of November. "
If the rest of the UK is like here, GPs aren't calling people and it's like finding a needle (pardon the pun) in a haystack trying to get a slot in a vaccine clinic. |
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"Friend of mine is ill with it now for 3rd time, this time it has hit him hard. Had his 4th jab a month ago too. He now fully believes the severity has increased with the jabs.
Grabbed him some shopping yesterday and gave him an ear to rant too for 15 mins.
I doubt he'll get any more jabs.
Alot won't b! I stopped at 2! Got it on my notes at docs now so I don't get the reminder texts my diabetic nurse put it on there at my last check up! hope ur friend feels better soon x"
I get the texts once a week despite opting out and updating my records. I didn't get booster 2 or 3, take the hint, I won't be getting 4 5 or 6.
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"Friend of mine is ill with it now for 3rd time, this time it has hit him hard. Had his 4th jab a month ago too. He now fully believes the severity has increased with the jabs.
Grabbed him some shopping yesterday and gave him an ear to rant too for 15 mins.
I doubt he'll get any more jabs.
Alot won't b! I stopped at 2! Got it on my notes at docs now so I don't get the reminder texts my diabetic nurse put it on there at my last check up! hope ur friend feels better soon xI get the texts once a week despite opting out and updating my records. I didn't get booster 2 or 3, take the hint, I won't be getting 4 5 or 6.
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Remind them they may have failed to update ur records! X |
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Got it now.
Sat next to someone Boxing Day who said they felt ill but gave it the don’t worry it’s not Covid thing.
It was. 
Felt awful yesterday had a horrible night of feeling hot and cold and hardly any sleep.
Today just feels like a cold although the thickly cough is annoying. |
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over a year ago
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I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs "
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s also been said that a lot of covid immunity is conferred by T cells - which cannot be easily measured. T cells are the reason some people get the cold a lot and others don’t - they also have a role in covid but all the modelling focussed on antibodies as they are easy to measure. Another flaw…! |
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"Friend of mine is ill with it now for 3rd time, this time it has hit him hard. Had his 4th jab a month ago too. He now fully believes the severity has increased with the jabs.
Grabbed him some shopping yesterday and gave him an ear to rant too for 15 mins.
I doubt he'll get any more jabs."
Good man. Sometimes we have to tell it how it is despite the resistance. Hopefully he will survive despite taking these toxic jabs... |
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic."
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test? |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?"
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not"
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this. |
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this. "
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19. |
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19."
A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected. |
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By *winga2Man
over a year ago
Stranraer |
"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected. "
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal. |
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal."
I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests. |
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By *winga2Man
over a year ago
Stranraer |
"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal.I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests."
It's highly unlikely that anyone you'd have spoken to during your PCR rest would have had the slightest idea of how they work lol |
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal.I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests.
It's highly unlikely that anyone you'd have spoken to during your PCR rest would have had the slightest idea of how they work lol"
So the nhs literature they were quoting was wrong too? I believe the advice at the time was not to do another pcr within 90 days. |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal.I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests.
It's highly unlikely that anyone you'd have spoken to during your PCR rest would have had the slightest idea of how they work lolSo the nhs literature they were quoting was wrong too? I believe the advice at the time was not to do another pcr within 90 days."
They also believed you couldn't be reinfected with COVID
Research changes protocols and tests are continuously developed and updated.
PS PCR isn't a test, it's a technique |
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"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal.I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests.
It's highly unlikely that anyone you'd have spoken to during your PCR rest would have had the slightest idea of how they work lolSo the nhs literature they were quoting was wrong too? I believe the advice at the time was not to do another pcr within 90 days.
They also believed you couldn't be reinfected with COVID
Research changes protocols and tests are continuously developed and updated.
PS PCR isn't a test, it's a technique "
Again, take it up with the gov and/or nhs. It was referred to all over their literature and website(s) as a pcr test and likely still is. Guess those government scientists don't know shit afterall  |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"I’ve never had it. I worked in the nhs on covid wards, managed a care home and my entire household had it (I tested daily and still didn’t get it).
I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal.I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests.
It's highly unlikely that anyone you'd have spoken to during your PCR rest would have had the slightest idea of how they work lolSo the nhs literature they were quoting was wrong too? I believe the advice at the time was not to do another pcr within 90 days.
They also believed you couldn't be reinfected with COVID
Research changes protocols and tests are continuously developed and updated.
PS PCR isn't a test, it's a technique Again, take it up with the gov and/or nhs. It was referred to all over their literature and website(s) as a pcr test and likely still is. Guess those government scientists don't know shit afterall "
You seem a little confused as to what your argument is lol
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Try googling PCR for dummies or ask someone who works in an immunology lab. |
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By *trideMan
over a year ago
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Excess Death Statistics.
Caution. The ONS numbers may not be what you think they are.
For 2020 and 2021, the excess deaths were calculated using the average of the deaths during the five Covid-free years 2015 to 2019.
But for 2022, the five-year average was based on deaths during the years 2016 to 2019 plus those of 2021.
But 2021 was a "Covid" year, so 2022's excess deaths do not show the effect of the virus in the same way as the data for the previous two years did.
The numbers:
Five year average of years 2015 to 2019....................532,636
Five year average of years 2016 to 2019 plus 2021...542,014
Possible Covid deaths in the average used for 2022......9,378
For 2023, the ONS is using the five year average of deaths during the years 2017 to 2019, plus 2021 & 2022:
Five year average of years 2015 to 2019...........................532,636
Five year average of years 2017 to 2019, plus ‘21 & ‘22...552,499
Possible Covid deaths in the average used for 2022...........19,863
Using the average of the deaths during the five Covid-free years 2015 to 2019, the excess deaths for the three "Covid years" were:
2020.....................81,478
2021.....................53,263
2022.....................44,260
Total...................179,001
Any attempts to assess the number of deaths due to Covid, flu, etc. will be based on the opinions of the remaining health professional in a sub-third-world national sick service.
And STILL about a third of the population votes in elections!
As Benjamin Disraeli is supposed to have said: 'There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
The numbers are from an MS Exhell .xls spreadsheet, which has details of all of the stats, and a bar chart. I'll send you a copy if you let me know your email address.
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I’ve no idea why, I went and supported a care home with a major outbreak within all staff and residents and still didn’t get it.
Mrs
It's been said that between 30 and 50% of people who caught COVID were asymptomatic.
Asymptomatic = no symptoms = not sick/infected.
When you say 'caught Covid' do you mean they had a positive test?
Carrier whether tested or not
You do know that those PCR tests cannot test for an infection, don't you?
In other words a positive test result cannot be used to prove the existence of any infection.
If you doubt this, look for what the PCR test inventor, Kary Mullis RIP, said about this.
Firstly PCR test do tell if some is infected. They can't tell who of the infected is infectious and who isn't. Secondly Mullins didn't invent the PCR he did some work that went into it. Thirdly Mullins was a fruitcake especially later in life when he believed in amongst other things aliens and the non existence of AIDS. Fourthly he died a long time before COVID 19.A pcr can also detect inactive virus long after you are no longer infected so it's in no way an surefire indicator if you are infected.
Depends on the measurement parameters used pal.I'm just basing it on what I was told at my first few pcr tests.
It's highly unlikely that anyone you'd have spoken to during your PCR rest would have had the slightest idea of how they work lolSo the nhs literature they were quoting was wrong too? I believe the advice at the time was not to do another pcr within 90 days.
They also believed you couldn't be reinfected with COVID
Research changes protocols and tests are continuously developed and updated.
PS PCR isn't a test, it's a technique Again, take it up with the gov and/or nhs. It was referred to all over their literature and website(s) as a pcr test and likely still is. Guess those government scientists don't know shit afterall
You seem a little confused as to what your argument is lol
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Try googling PCR for dummies or ask someone who works in an immunology lab."
My argument is that a pcr test can detect covid for a period of time after infection, which it can. That hasn't changed. You however have made yourself look stupid by trying to be a smart arse. Now you are trying to insult me to avoid admitting that even the gov call it a pcr test and not a process.
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