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By *hirley OP Man
over a year ago
somewhere |
Not quite a 'virus', but similar connotations for it.
Have you been reading the recent news and does the sudden influx of children being so sick and passing away from it concern you? Do you know any information about the bacteria infection or background of current events? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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1st world country with 3rd work health care… an appalling government who can’t control it. Wouldn’t want to be getting sick this side of Christmas… good luck trying to get an ambulance; or even a bed on a ward with skeleton staffing levels.  |
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"1st world country with 3rd work health care… an appalling government who can’t control it. Wouldn’t want to be getting sick this side of Christmas… good luck trying to get an ambulance; or even a bed on a ward with skeleton staffing levels. "
I actually think this is a global problem - maybe not strep specifically, but I know children's hospitals in the US, Canada, and Australia have been struggling with capacity the last few months. |
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Instead of moaning about the NHS, that I and many other people work for. Maybe contact your MP. Campaign for change.
We are exhausted. We didn't ask for pandemics or poorly run government's (well I didn't vote tory). We love our jobs but we have limitations. Don't sit on a swingers site complaining. Do something pro-active.  |
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By *eff4000Man
over a year ago
Camberley |
"Instead of moaning about the NHS, that I and many other people work for. Maybe contact your MP. Campaign for change.
We are exhausted. We didn't ask for pandemics or poorly run government's (well I didn't vote tory). We love our jobs but we have limitations. Don't sit on a swingers site complaining. Do something pro-active. "
But I clapped on my doorstep, wasn't that enough???
/s just in case it wasn't obvious |
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Seasonal fluctuations in case loads are a bit amiss for many infections, plus we've had reduced likely immunity to these, through careful reduction in exposure levels.
It's obviously a concern but the earlier start to the season may not mean much more than that we're readjusting to normal life again. This season may peter out in a few weeks and at least it's being monitored and people are aware of what to look out for. |
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"What's this got to do with covid???????????? "
Nothing really, but it is an infection that people are currently discussing as it is affecting lots of children so people are bound to to post about it and the virus forum would seem to be the most appropriate place to do so. |
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"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop."
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile? |
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By *hirley OP Man
over a year ago
somewhere |
"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop.
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile?"
Yeah, I have put that to the back of my mind now  |
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"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop.
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile?"
I wasn't allowed that.
I had pills crushed up in jam  |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
Horse shit... Influenza is a virus.. Streptococcus is bacterial. You cannot catch either from a live vaccine |
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"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop.
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile?"
Amoxicillin suspension probably |
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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago
trouble most likely, or creating it :) |
"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
the immune system has probably suffered a little with not being exposed to things but this has naff all to do with any vaccine as flu and strep are unrelated |
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" Well it's a perfect storm really and been brewing for years ( well the last 12 years) and been roundly ignored as most of it only effected the so called feckless and the poor but not now...."
Who knew that stripping social infrastructure would exacerbate problems when they arose?
Shock. This is my shocked face. So shocked. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
In mice. The study doing the rounds is in mice.
Are the children dying mice? |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
Did you read that on Facebook? |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
Did you read that on Facebook?"
There is a 2014 study. In mice.
Mice are obviously anatomically identical to people and live in the same conditions.
And the danger is so obvious and evident and people care so much that it took *checks notes* eight years to come out. |
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"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop.
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile?
Amoxicillin suspension probably "
Yup that's the one lol children everywhere were lied to repeatedly lol |
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"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop.
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile?
I wasn't allowed that.
I had pills crushed up in jam "
Damn that sounds even worse |
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"I remember getting it as a child several times, never felt like I was going to die, but remember needing antibiotics, think they gave me that illuminous radioactive yellow gloop.
You mean the stuff that was meant to be banana flavoured but tasted vile?
I wasn't allowed that.
I had pills crushed up in jam
Damn that sounds even worse"
Yup. Not nice at all. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
Did you read that on Facebook?
There is a 2014 study. In mice.
Mice are obviously anatomically identical to people and live in the same conditions.
And the danger is so obvious and evident and people care so much that it took *checks notes* eight years to come out."
"It's a councidence" were unnecessary words in that sentence.... 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe pay more towards it then moan all the time we have a rapidly aging population which comes at a great cost to us all "
Don't you think we are paying enough?
Perhaps if the privateers weren't charging the NHS so much for the likes light bulbs and bog rolls etc etc etc there would be more to go around eh..
Wonder who you voted in? |
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"Maybe pay more towards it then moan all the time we have a rapidly aging population which comes at a great cost to us all "
In the uk we want US levels of taxation but expect western European quality public and health services. We can't have both. |
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"Maybe pay more towards it then moan all the time we have a rapidly aging population which comes at a great cost to us all
In the uk we want US levels of taxation but expect western European quality public and health services. We can't have both."
Indeed |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
One is a viral infection, one is a bacterial infection.
It's the weirdest coincidence in the history of man.
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
Cookstown |
"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
Sorry, I'm struggling to get that, can you explain your reasoning or give me a link that explains the increase of strep infections due to the live flu virus vaccine please ? |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children."
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children."
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating "
I'm sorry but fuck Sweden,why the fuck do people continue to bring it up as an example?
Population, geography and climate so very different from the UK it's a ridiculous comparison.
Judging by your post I'm guessing that the people who died with an average age of 81 didn't bother you?
If you did your homework you'd understand that one of the reasons for step to be so dangerous is it's becoming antibiotic resistant and harder to treat.
This is a worldwide issue not just here.
It's also no coincidence that it suddenly appears once windows get shut and heating goes on or maybe even no heating at all?
Overcrowding in classrooms,poor diets,bad air quality and dare I say it no masks. |
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"Maybe pay more towards it then moan all the time we have a rapidly aging population which comes at a great cost to us all
Don't you think we are paying enough?
Perhaps if the privateers weren't charging the NHS so much for the likes light bulbs and bog rolls etc etc etc there would be more to go around eh..
Wonder who you voted in?"
Talking about costs.
We're on holiday in Fuertuventura and Paul's got a chesty cough, poor lad (drama queen).
So off we pop to the local pharmacy and buy a bottle of bog standard cough linctus for €16.80 and a packet of 8 paracetamol for €3.80.
Give me those robbing bastards in Asda or Aldi anytime, last time I checked a packet of paracetamol is about 30p.
Lady in front of me wasn't impressed she had to visit a doctor to get a script for antibiotics.
Fucking ridiculous she muttered on the way out. Don't quite get that one !!
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating "
That was the excuse last year in the US when RSV surged. And yet the children's hospitals are rammed.
The wank fantasy Sweden is also having problems with hospitalised children, even though they had so much freedumb etc.
It's almost as if the evidence doesn't stack up to this sob story. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating "
How many weeks were kids actually isolated at home for? |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating
How many weeks were kids actually isolated at home for? "
Mine were lockdown March to Sept term start 2020 and all of Jan 2021
So almost 6/7 months out of school in lockdown
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children."
Well why don't you hide behind your sofa wearing 26 masks have all the boosters your body can hold and let the rest of us live our lives how we want....
What would be interesting to find out is the covid vaccination status of the children who very sadly pass away from strep? |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating
How many weeks were kids actually isolated at home for?
Mine were lockdown March to Sept term start 2020 and all of Jan 2021
So almost 6/7 months out of school in lockdown
Tg x"
So not two years then. Harmful I'm sure but not convinced that it's the reason for the recent outbreak. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
This is totally down to two years of on and off lockdowns..children barred from going to school and basically being locked away for that period. And you wonder why immune systems are shot . The average age of a person dying with Covid on their death certificates was 81. Now many thousands of young people, many with dependents are now sentenced to early deaths. They haven’t got these issues in Sweden. Whitty and his colleagues at SAGE need thoroughly investigating "
That average covid death age is often repeated mainly by anti vaxxers. It comes from November 2020 I.e pre vaccines. Once vaccinations were rolled out especially to older people this dropped to just over 70. It gradually increased again it was nearly 83 last time I saw it due to general population vaccination,milder variants and better treatments. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children.
Well why don't you hide behind your sofa wearing 26 masks have all the boosters your body can hold and let the rest of us live our lives how we want....
What would be interesting to find out is the covid vaccination status of the children who very sadly pass away from strep? "
You are, in fact, living your life as you want to. Your life is back to normal.
If discussions like these trouble you so much that you need to throw ridiculous insults, why partake? Live your life. People live, people die, get on with it or whatever. |
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I’d be interested in finding out what proportion of the kids who are badly affected by childhood diseases have antivax parents who avoided getting them all the standard shots?
The argument that Vaccines adversely affect the immune system is absolutely crackers. That’s literally why they exist. |
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"I’d be interested in finding out what proportion of the kids who are badly affected by childhood diseases have antivax parents who avoided getting them all the standard shots?
The argument that Vaccines adversely affect the immune system is absolutely crackers. That’s literally why they exist. "
I do know in adults, the unvaccinated die at a wildly disproportionate rate, even if you don't account for the fact that the medically vulnerable are much more likely to be vaccinated. Is vaccination a silver bullet? No. But we worked this out over a year ago.
I think trying to weaponise a rash of unexpected deaths as a reason to dismantle public health is at best revolting. |
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"I’d be interested in finding out what proportion of the kids who are badly affected by childhood diseases have antivax parents who avoided getting them all the standard shots?
The argument that Vaccines adversely affect the immune system is absolutely crackers. That’s literally why they exist.
I do know in adults, the unvaccinated die at a wildly disproportionate rate, even if you don't account for the fact that the medically vulnerable are much more likely to be vaccinated. Is vaccination a silver bullet? No. But we worked this out over a year ago.
I think trying to weaponise a rash of unexpected deaths as a reason to dismantle public health is at best revolting."
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"I’d be interested in finding out what proportion of the kids who are badly affected by childhood diseases have antivax parents who avoided getting them all the standard shots?
The argument that Vaccines adversely affect the immune system is absolutely crackers. That’s literally why they exist.
I do know in adults, the unvaccinated die at a wildly disproportionate rate, even if you don't account for the fact that the medically vulnerable are much more likely to be vaccinated. Is vaccination a silver bullet? No. But we worked this out over a year ago.
I think trying to weaponise a rash of unexpected deaths as a reason to dismantle public health is at best revolting."
Rash. See what you did. |
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"I’d be interested in finding out what proportion of the kids who are badly affected by childhood diseases have antivax parents who avoided getting them all the standard shots?
The argument that Vaccines adversely affect the immune system is absolutely crackers. That’s literally why they exist.
I do know in adults, the unvaccinated die at a wildly disproportionate rate, even if you don't account for the fact that the medically vulnerable are much more likely to be vaccinated. Is vaccination a silver bullet? No. But we worked this out over a year ago.
I think trying to weaponise a rash of unexpected deaths as a reason to dismantle public health is at best revolting.
Rash. See what you did. "
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J"
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination "
From the NHS website.
Common side effects;
Very common side effects in the first day or two may include:
having a painful, heavy feeling and tenderness in the arm where you
had your injection, feeling tired
headache, aches and chills
diarrhoea, nausea and vomiting
mild flu-like symptoms.
Fever (temperature 37.8°C or above)
feeling generally unwell.
No mention of Strep being a side effect of the flu vaccine.
Where did you see it listed?
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
What is not a coincidence is that many of all ages are now getting ill from all sorts of diseases more than they did before covid. Nothing to do with vaccines, everything to do with the proven fact that every infection by covid causes a depletion of the immune system for a period of at least months.
The actions of government in claiming that covid is no further risk when in fact case numbers are higher than ever, and of covid minimisers and anti-maskers in ensuring that the virus continues circulating with now zero effort to halt it, have resulted in there now being continuous infection.
Many people, and especially many children, are now catching covid so frequently that their immune systems never get to recover. Some people are showing T-cell counts lower than AIDS sufferers.
Current deaths are only the start of a slow motion car crash, totally caused by the "it's only like flu" brigade. Unfortunately by the time the shit hits the fan enough for the problem to be undeniable, it's going to be far too late for a lot of people - including a lot of children."
Our only hope personally I think is the markets/ economists. The FED and the BOE have already acknowledged the effect of LC on the working population…… the markets smelled Truss bull so maybe it’s a matter of time before this gets recognised also |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination "
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery "
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston "
The only place I've seen it listed as a side effect is the study that's gone viral, which shows that it can cause strep A in mice.
The people who have done their own research have clearly got the interests of children in mind, and got on this right away, because the study is eight years old.
And that's not even counting the notion that children and mice might be a bit different. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston "
Someone privately messaged me telling me to "go into a doctors" to request the "insert" from nasal spray flu vaccination, I'm assuming they mean a 'gp' and the patient 'leaflet'.
Now I don't know why I would do that considering I doubt gps have them, more likely a pharmacy, plus I can just look at this NHS affiliate link to show no mention of strep A or scarlet fever or igas...
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3296/pil
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
Someone privately messaged me telling me to "go into a doctors" to request the "insert" from nasal spray flu vaccination, I'm assuming they mean a 'gp' and the patient 'leaflet'.
Now I don't know why I would do that considering I doubt gps have them, more likely a pharmacy, plus I can just look at this NHS affiliate link to show no mention of strep A or scarlet fever or igas...
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3296/pil
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I've had to say that here because I can't reply to said person as they blocked me for some reason |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
Someone privately messaged me telling me to "go into a doctors" to request the "insert" from nasal spray flu vaccination, I'm assuming they mean a 'gp' and the patient 'leaflet'.
Now I don't know why I would do that considering I doubt gps have them, more likely a pharmacy, plus I can just look at this NHS affiliate link to show no mention of strep A or scarlet fever or igas...
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Going and harassing pharmacy/ medical staff about inserts is one of the new games that antivax activists play. If the hapless people being harassed can't produce exactly what's requested immediately, it's proof of conspiracy. or something. |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
The only place I've seen it listed as a side effect is the study that's gone viral, which shows that it can cause strep A in mice.
The people who have done their own research have clearly got the interests of children in mind, and got on this right away, because the study is eight years old.
And that's not even counting the notion that children and mice might be a bit different."
I think you mean the link bev Turner posted on twitter or something, I've not seen this link myself. However, I do know about this link; it doesn't even refer to the same strain of streptococcus bacteria as the ones found causing problems in children.  |
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
The only place I've seen it listed as a side effect is the study that's gone viral, which shows that it can cause strep A in mice.
The people who have done their own research have clearly got the interests of children in mind, and got on this right away, because the study is eight years old.
And that's not even counting the notion that children and mice might be a bit different.
I think you mean the link bev Turner posted on twitter or something, I've not seen this link myself. However, I do know about this link; it doesn't even refer to the same strain of streptococcus bacteria as the ones found causing problems in children. "
I can't remember who posted it, but it was a paper from 2014. Which makes me wonder - even if it is a slam dunk against vaccines - why did the people who've done their own research sit on this for so long? How many children's lives could they have saved? Surely a group who care so much about health, particularly in children, would get it out there immediately, and not wait until it's politically convenient for their cause?
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
Someone privately messaged me telling me to "go into a doctors" to request the "insert" from nasal spray flu vaccination, I'm assuming they mean a 'gp' and the patient 'leaflet'.
Now I don't know why I would do that considering I doubt gps have them, more likely a pharmacy, plus I can just look at this NHS affiliate link to show no mention of strep A or scarlet fever or igas...
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3296/pil
I've had to say that here because I can't reply to said person as they blocked me for some reason "
The "sending a lod of bullcrap by PM", and blocking so you can't reply is not a new phenomenon.
I've noticed it's often by people who aren't even posting on the thread.
Cowards. Who's action suggests they don't have a lot of faith in what they say, or theyd be happy to debate openly.
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
Someone privately messaged me telling me to "go into a doctors" to request the "insert" from nasal spray flu vaccination, I'm assuming they mean a 'gp' and the patient 'leaflet'.
Now I don't know why I would do that considering I doubt gps have them, more likely a pharmacy, plus I can just look at this NHS affiliate link to show no mention of strep A or scarlet fever or igas...
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3296/pil
I've had to say that here because I can't reply to said person as they blocked me for some reason
The "sending a lod of bullcrap by PM", and blocking so you can't reply is not a new phenomenon.
I've noticed it's often by people who aren't even posting on the thread.
Cowards. Who's action suggests they don't have a lot of faith in what they say, or theyd be happy to debate openly.
Winston "
It's not even those disagreeing with you. I've had people send me links that support what I've said and block me |
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I think it probably time we start to talk about what Covid does to our immune systems- namely a profound lymphocytosis. The effect is a a temporary immunosupression for a few months but with the waves coming every 4-6 months - our immune system have not had a chance to recover.
Sweden is a perfect example- had a horrendous wave RSV and now it’s getting Covid/ Flu and RSV. This all despite fairly minimal lockdown measures- there is little evidence that their immunity is improving in time to Flu and RSV.
Ditto- Monkey pox, Diphtheria, Chicken pox, hand foot and mouth.
It is all probably tied back to our immune systems
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"I think it probably time we start to talk about what Covid does to our immune systems- namely a profound lymphocytosis. The effect is a a temporary immunosupression for a few months but with the waves coming every 4-6 months - our immune system have not had a chance to recover.
Sweden is a perfect example- had a horrendous wave RSV and now it’s getting Covid/ Flu and RSV. This all despite fairly minimal lockdown measures- there is little evidence that their immunity is improving in time to Flu and RSV.
Ditto- Monkey pox, Diphtheria, Chicken pox, hand foot and mouth.
It is all probably tied back to our immune systems
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Our first clue was probably the fungal outbreaks in India during the rise of Delta.
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"Live attenuated 'flu vaccines increase strep infections. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Kids' immune systems have taken a battering due to ill considered government interventions.
J
I was going to say the same.. Strep A is a listed side effect of the flu vaccination
Can you please show me where that is listed? I've had double figures flu vaccinations over the years, I'm not sure I've seen that, it must be new discovery
You're not the first to ask that question, 3rd I think.
Winston
Someone privately messaged me telling me to "go into a doctors" to request the "insert" from nasal spray flu vaccination, I'm assuming they mean a 'gp' and the patient 'leaflet'.
Now I don't know why I would do that considering I doubt gps have them, more likely a pharmacy, plus I can just look at this NHS affiliate link to show no mention of strep A or scarlet fever or igas...
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3296/pil
I've had to say that here because I can't reply to said person as they blocked me for some reason
The "sending a lod of bullcrap by PM", and blocking so you can't reply is not a new phenomenon.
I've noticed it's often by people who aren't even posting on the thread.
Cowards. Who's action suggests they don't have a lot of faith in what they say, or theyd be happy to debate openly.
Winston It's not even those disagreeing with you. I've had people send me links that support what I've said and block me "
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