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By *illan-Killash OP Man 30 weeks ago
London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants |
Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time. |
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I had both together last year with no problems but only had the flu up to now this year and that left me feeling rubbish for 3 days. I know this is a normal reaction to the vaccine and actually a good sign in general but I've never reacted to it like that before. |
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Had both together this year and last year. Felt a bit spacey afterwards and the day after was a wipe out Otherwise fine
Remember to stay hydrated. Avoiding alcohol and caffeine beforehand is a good idea too |
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By *9alMan 30 weeks ago
Bridgend |
I have had both but decided to have them separately in case I had a reaction to one or both. if fact I did not have any reaction this time but have felt bad the next day after flu & covid jabs in the past |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time."
absolutely fine |
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By *ick71Man 29 weeks ago
Chelmsford |
Had both this morning, one in each arm. Both upper arms aching and sore to touch and gone to bed with the shivers, same as last year hopefully tomorrow won't be a right off like last year was. |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time."
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else. |
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By *illan-Killash OP Man 29 weeks ago
London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants |
"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else. "
I did my research, proper research I mean and made my decision based on factual, reputable data.
Although I shouldn't have taken the Covid vaccine due to something that's not a component of the vaccine affects insects and there's a whole range of side effects if you're in a particular high risk group. None of which I am.
Yeah, still trying to work out the insects one.....  |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else. "
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about? |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else.
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about?"
No, that’s not what I said at all. I said it does not produce covid like symptoms because there is no viral particulate matter in the vaccine.
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"You get sv40 in it for free lol"
60 years since SV40 was last in vaccines. But I believe the flat earthers/conspiracy theory/ anti vaxers/ Alex Jones loving people have probably starting lying again about it |
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By *illan-Killash OP Man 29 weeks ago
London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants |
"You get sv40 in it for free lol
60 years since SV40 was last in vaccines. But I believe the flat earthers/conspiracy theory/ anti vaxers/ Alex Jones loving people have probably starting lying again about it"
SV40 can be harmful to insects, which is why we shouldn't accept the Covid vaccine.
Apart from the fact that SV40 isn't a component of the covid vaccine (and there's more than one covid vaccine) it all makes perfect sense.
Somehow....... |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else.
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about?
No, that’s not what I said at all. I said it does not produce covid like symptoms because there is no viral particulate matter in the vaccine.
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I know what you stated. Are you not aware that a lot of the symptoms of any immune response, is the immune response itself? |
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"Won't be having either whether seperate or together.
We are convinced the Covid jab causes arthritis and the staff at the hospital where Mr M had his knee done agreed with our deduction."
What type? Rheumatoid arthritis or osteoarthritis? |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else.
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about?
No, that’s not what I said at all. I said it does not produce covid like symptoms because there is no viral particulate matter in the vaccine.
I know what you stated. Are you not aware that a lot of the symptoms of any immune response, is the immune response itself? "
Obviously. My point (for the 3rd time now) is that, unlike the flu-like symptoms which can arise as an immune response to the flu jab, the immune response to the covid jab does not present as covid-like symptoms. Which bit of my explanation are you struggling to comprehend? |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else.
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about?
No, that’s not what I said at all. I said it does not produce covid like symptoms because there is no viral particulate matter in the vaccine.
I know what you stated. Are you not aware that a lot of the symptoms of any immune response, is the immune response itself?
Obviously. My point (for the 3rd time now) is that, unlike the flu-like symptoms which can arise as an immune response to the flu jab, the immune response to the covid jab does not present as covid-like symptoms. Which bit of my explanation are you struggling to comprehend? "
Re-stating something isn't clarification.
My point: symptoms (from any pathogen) includes the symptoms arising from the immune system response (simple examples: high temp and inflammation which in themselves cause headaches, feeling hot and cold, lethargy, ... Anyone will recognise these "flu-like" symptoms; red, swollen, painful throat... could be a bacterial infection... and yet all due to the immune response. The immune system is fighting the pathogen and during the time it takes to produce the WBC antibodies, killer and memory cells to make the next fight easier/quicker, the symptoms are shit. Sophie can explain it better.
To continue my point: the immune system has to respond to make further protection. And it does that with vaccines. Vaccines have or simulate what the body has to fight. It's not about flu symptoms or covid, but the immune response. |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else.
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about?
No, that’s not what I said at all. I said it does not produce covid like symptoms because there is no viral particulate matter in the vaccine.
I know what you stated. Are you not aware that a lot of the symptoms of any immune response, is the immune response itself?
Obviously. My point (for the 3rd time now) is that, unlike the flu-like symptoms which can arise as an immune response to the flu jab, the immune response to the covid jab does not present as covid-like symptoms. Which bit of my explanation are you struggling to comprehend?
Re-stating something isn't clarification.
My point: symptoms (from any pathogen) includes the symptoms arising from the immune system response (simple examples: high temp and inflammation which in themselves cause headaches, feeling hot and cold, lethargy, ... Anyone will recognise these "flu-like" symptoms; red, swollen, painful throat... could be a bacterial infection... and yet all due to the immune response. The immune system is fighting the pathogen and during the time it takes to produce the WBC antibodies, killer and memory cells to make the next fight easier/quicker, the symptoms are shit. Sophie can explain it better.
To continue my point: the immune system has to respond to make further protection. And it does that with vaccines. Vaccines have or simulate what the body has to fight. It's not about flu symptoms or covid, but the immune response."
It is indeed about the immune response - and my point was that for the vast majority of covid vaccine recipients, there are no discernible covid-like ‘symptoms’ prompted by the immune response to covid vaccination. You confirm what I originally stated. Thanks. |
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"Won't be having either whether seperate or together.
We are convinced the Covid jab causes arthritis and the staff at the hospital where Mr M had his knee done agreed with our deduction."
Couple of things:
You're not having the flu vaccination because the Covid one causes arthritis?
You need to find a different hospital |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else.
Are you saying there's no immune response to a covid Vax? If so, how do antibodies and memory and killer cells come about?
No, that’s not what I said at all. I said it does not produce covid like symptoms because there is no viral particulate matter in the vaccine.
I know what you stated. Are you not aware that a lot of the symptoms of any immune response, is the immune response itself?
Obviously. My point (for the 3rd time now) is that, unlike the flu-like symptoms which can arise as an immune response to the flu jab, the immune response to the covid jab does not present as covid-like symptoms. Which bit of my explanation are you struggling to comprehend?
Re-stating something isn't clarification.
My point: symptoms (from any pathogen) includes the symptoms arising from the immune system response (simple examples: high temp and inflammation which in themselves cause headaches, feeling hot and cold, lethargy, ... Anyone will recognise these "flu-like" symptoms; red, swollen, painful throat... could be a bacterial infection... and yet all due to the immune response. The immune system is fighting the pathogen and during the time it takes to produce the WBC antibodies, killer and memory cells to make the next fight easier/quicker, the symptoms are shit. Sophie can explain it better.
To continue my point: the immune system has to respond to make further protection. And it does that with vaccines. Vaccines have or simulate what the body has to fight. It's not about flu symptoms or covid, but the immune response.
It is indeed about the immune response - and my point was that for the vast majority of covid vaccine recipients, there are no discernible covid-like ‘symptoms’ prompted by the immune response to covid vaccination. You confirm what I originally stated. Thanks. "
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By *izzy.Woman 29 weeks ago
Stoke area |
I went for my covid jab and was offered the flu vax while I was there. I was surprised the nurse did them both in the same arm, an inch apart. It made sense when she said you'll only have one sore arm then. In fact I didn't even have that. |
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There is potential for a reaction otherwise why would they ask you to sit and wait for 10 minutes after receiving the jabs.
My third covid jab which was the Pfizer resulted in me collapsing within that time frame. I haven’t been back for any further boosters. |
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i apparently coudnt have my covid jab when i got the flu one because am under 65.got told at docs at that time they were only doing covid jabs for over 65s.still waiting, so i might go to chemist and get it done there. |
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By *ENGUYMan 29 weeks ago
Hull |
Had Covid Booster 3 weeks ago, and had sore arm plus felt rough for 3 days. My brother had his done same day, elsewhere in the UK, and side effects caused him to suffer for a week!
Flu Jab due next Saturday! |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time."
I was completely fine. A bit of pain in the muscle but it passed quickly. |
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"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm. 
How?"
A German study of a whopping 303 participants suggests this.
It's not as if state funding couldn't go to more useful projects.
43% versus 67% (level of CD8 T cells in contralateral versus ipsilateral vaccination)- they can't even get their maths or spelling correct.
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"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm.
How?"
It's a single study of a few hundred people, so the statistical power seems sound. Ipsilateral =same arm, contralateral, different arm.
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'Our study indicates that ipsilateral vaccinations generate a stronger immune response than contralateral vaccinations'
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By *heelerMan 29 weeks ago
Northants |
Been having all the covid jabs and flu separately in the past with no effect this time had both on same day felt rough that night and following day taking paracetamol regularly and the following day was ok again but ached and headache of which i rarely have. |
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By *tr4455Man 29 weeks ago
nr wigan |
Had both together 3 weeks ago .. Slight pain for a couple of day .. Flu one was painful for a couple of days longer.. But my advice get them done... Better safe than sorry..... Especially with this other strain of covid about |
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By *csheffMan 29 weeks ago
Sheffield |
"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm. "
Genuinely never come across that before. Please could you share your source. |
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time."
Don't do it !! Week 5 now and still suffering cough after flu like symptoms .....never again ! |
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"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm.
How?
A German study of a whopping 303 participants suggests this.
It's not as if state funding couldn't go to more useful projects.
43% versus 67% (level of CD8 T cells in contralateral versus ipsilateral vaccination)- they can't even get their maths or spelling correct.
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You don't seem impressed  .
Ok them the results, but what's the rationale as to what causes those results biologically? To be fair it's a low number, especially when you think of the hundreds of thousands of people who continue to get boosters. |
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By *illan-Killash OP Man 29 weeks ago
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time. Don't do it !! Week 5 now and still suffering cough after flu like symptoms .....never again !"
All done, feeling same as I did before. All good here.
Sorry you're not feeling so good though.  |
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"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm.
How?
A German study of a whopping 303 participants suggests this.
It's not as if state funding couldn't go to more useful projects.
43% versus 67% (level of CD8 T cells in contralateral versus ipsilateral vaccination)- they can't even get their maths or spelling correct.
You don't seem impressed .
Ok them the results, but what's the rationale as to what causes those results biologically? To be fair it's a low number, especially when you think of the hundreds of thousands of people who continue to get boosters."
43 + 67 = 110%.
There is no such thing as 110%.
Only 143 out of the 303 were actually analyzed in full for the results of the amount of T Cells present.
If you were to actually go and read the study and do the calculations, you'd find that the results are actually 45% vs 55%.
That's half and half - in other words, if statistically significant, as the initial poster suggested - it doesn't matter a bit. |
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"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm.
How?
A German study of a whopping 303 participants suggests this.
It's not as if state funding couldn't go to more useful projects.
43% versus 67% (level of CD8 T cells in contralateral versus ipsilateral vaccination)- they can't even get their maths or spelling correct.
You don't seem impressed .
Ok them the results, but what's the rationale as to what causes those results biologically? To be fair it's a low number, especially when you think of the hundreds of thousands of people who continue to get boosters.
43 + 67 = 110%.
There is no such thing as 110%.
Only 143 out of the 303 were actually analyzed in full for the results of the amount of T Cells present.
If you were to actually go and read the study and do the calculations, you'd find that the results are actually 45% vs 55%.
That's half and half - in other words, if statistically significant, as the initial poster suggested - it doesn't matter a bit. "
I was interested in the biology of it and couldn't fathom how the immune system would recall which muscle the Vax was injected into, to then increase components of the WBC. |
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"I was interested in the biology of it and couldn't fathom how the immune system would recall which muscle the Vax was injected into, to then increase components of the WBC. "
Using the arm helps circulate fluids around the body. Your lymphatic system is passive and relies upon you moving about. |
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"I was interested in the biology of it and couldn't fathom how the immune system would recall which muscle the Vax was injected into, to then increase components of the WBC.
Using the arm helps circulate fluids around the body. Your lymphatic system is passive and relies upon you moving about. "
And injections into the arse?
By the way, your response isn't related to my query, as much as it is well intentioned. |
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"If you can remember which arm you had your last Covid jab in, it's wise to reuse it, as the immunity gained may be stronger than using the other arm.
How?
A German study of a whopping 303 participants suggests this.
It's not as if state funding couldn't go to more useful projects.
43% versus 67% (level of CD8 T cells in contralateral versus ipsilateral vaccination)- they can't even get their maths or spelling correct.
You don't seem impressed .
Ok them the results, but what's the rationale as to what causes those results biologically? To be fair it's a low number, especially when you think of the hundreds of thousands of people who continue to get boosters.
43 + 67 = 110%.
There is no such thing as 110%.
Only 143 out of the 303 were actually analyzed in full for the results of the amount of T Cells present.
If you were to actually go and read the study and do the calculations, you'd find that the results are actually 45% vs 55%.
That's half and half - in other words, if statistically significant, as the initial poster suggested - it doesn't matter a bit.
I was interested in the biology of it and couldn't fathom how the immune system would recall which muscle the Vax was injected into, to then increase components of the WBC. "
I have to correct my post above.
According to the study, and I quote "As a result, the percentage of individuals with spike-specific CD8 T-cell levels above the detection limit was significantly lower after contralateral than after ipsilateral vaccination (34/79 (43.0%) versus 43/64 (67.2%)" - so 34 out of 79 (out of the contralateral group) had detectable levels as opposed to 43 out of 64 (out of the ipsilateral group).
And it is only these cells where there is a difference. Plenty of other types of cells involved in the immune response showed no variable - apparently.
So go get your shots in the same arm as before, for whatever difference it may make  |
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"I was interested in the biology of it and couldn't fathom how the immune system would recall which muscle the Vax was injected into, to then increase components of the WBC.
Using the arm helps circulate fluids around the body. Your lymphatic system is passive and relies upon you moving about.
And injections into the arse?
By the way, your response isn't related to my query, as much as it is well intentioned."
Oddly enough, the lymphatic system has something to do with this. If you read the actual study, it tells you and I quote: "The observed differences in immunogenicity may result from the fact that priming and secondary boosting of the immune response after ipsilateral vaccination occurs in the same draining axillary lymph nodes with limited involvement of the contralateral side."
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"I was interested in the biology of it and couldn't fathom how the immune system would recall which muscle the Vax was injected into, to then increase components of the WBC.
Using the arm helps circulate fluids around the body. Your lymphatic system is passive and relies upon you moving about.
And injections into the arse?
By the way, your response isn't related to my query, as much as it is well intentioned.
Oddly enough, the lymphatic system has something to do with this. If you read the actual study, it tells you and I quote: "The observed differences in immunogenicity may result from the fact that priming and secondary boosting of the immune response after ipsilateral vaccination occurs in the same draining axillary lymph nodes with limited involvement of the contralateral side."
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Not odd as the lymphatic system is part of the immune system. Perhaps what it's trying to state is that area has become more efficient with repeated/forced usage. |
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Sore arm, heacache and temperature for a day afterward. Nothing some paracetamol didn't alleviate.
I also now identify as a fanboy of Elon Musk and think that buying Microsoft products is an excellent idea... |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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Jees - people still getting covid boosters , doesn’t stop you getting or transmitting covid, so why. ?
Sorry but you will find people will break out in covid, shingles, and a lot more. The mRNA jab does affect your immune system In. Bad way sadly. I hadn’t heard of people with covid for ages until this last booster started
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"Jees - people still getting covid boosters , doesn’t stop you getting or transmitting covid, so why. ?
Sorry but you will find people will break out in covid, shingles, and a lot more. The mRNA jab does affect your immune system In. Bad way sadly. I hadn’t heard of people with covid for ages until this last booster started
Hope your well x "
Do the boosters cause people to have Covid symptoms?
I'm just going to throw this out there, crazy as it sounds, but could it be that a new variant is causing people to have Covid symptoms and they are therefore having vaccinations. Surely not |
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"Jees - people still getting covid boosters , doesn’t stop you getting or transmitting covid, so why. ?
Sorry but you will find people will break out in covid, shingles, and a lot more. The mRNA jab does affect your immune system In. Bad way sadly. I hadn’t heard of people with covid for ages until this last booster started
Hope your well x "
Worth trying some fact checking, so that you instead post some facts . The vaccines, for example, play a part in much more than reducing infectivity, including duration of infectiousness etc. Many people prefer to avoid unnecessary deaths too . Plus, with overloaded health services, especially in winter, reducing the potential increased overload, due to Covid and Flu, it seems like an intelligent thing to do .
Whilst Covid isn't fixed into a single annual pattern, it's natural that infections are facilitated by people seasonally moving towards more time spent indoors. Hence, autumn drives for booster programmes |
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By (user no longer on site) 15 weeks ago
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"Got both my boosters booked at the same time today.
Interested to hear how anyone has felt after having both together.
I'm anticipating a mild reaction.
I've had both before, but never at the same time.
The covid jab does not produce any covid-like symptoms as no viral particulate matter is used in its manufacture.
Very occasionally, the flu jab can produce very mild flu like symptoms as it stimulates an immune response.
Having them together is not advised for those who are deemed clinically vulnerable but it is perfectly fine for everyone else. "
I'm clinically vulnerable but i had mine together. |
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"Wow jab and boosters haha are you for real after what information is out there talk about being asleep and drone mentality no sympathy absolute madness"
This is the type of shit that should get reported! Try respecting others' decisions! |
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By *illan-Killash OP Man 14 weeks ago
London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants |
"Wow jab and boosters haha are you for real after what information is out there talk about being asleep and drone mentality no sympathy absolute madness"
Thanks, but no sympathy needed, I'm in really good health.
I've no idea why the unvaccinated need to belittle or name call anyone who decided to get vaccinated. Each to their own surely?
It depends entirely on the information we read from "whats out there", a mountain of it is absolute nonsense.
I stick to peer reviewed papers and information from respected experts in their field, as opposed to grifters or the bloke in the pub who knows someone who knows someone who's leg fell off.
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