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"I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis 25 years ago and the role of Vitamin D plays was known about then. I was encouraged to give my children Vitamin D supplements and spend time outdoors with them during childhood to reduce their chance of developing MS. It isn't a hereditary condition, but it's believed that there is something in people's genes that make them more susceptible to MS developing. That plus a exposure to a virus, and other factors increase the risk. But lack of Vitamin D is a definite factor in MS. The distribution of MS around the world is uneven. Generally, the prevalence increases as you travel further north or south from the equator. Those parts of Asia, Africa and America that lie on the equator have extremely low levels of MS, whilst Canada and Scotland have particularly high rates. " That's very interesting. | |||
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"I'm currently trying to persuade my dad to take vitamin D for bone health. It's an uphill struggle " See if he'll have a blood test. If he is deficient then the GP will prescribe it. Alternatively they'll put him on calcium and vit D (and possibly weekly alendronic acid) if he has a fall and fractures a bone (that could be your warning to him). | |||
"I'm currently trying to persuade my dad to take vitamin D for bone health. It's an uphill struggle See if he'll have a blood test. If he is deficient then the GP will prescribe it. Alternatively they'll put him on calcium and vit D (and possibly weekly alendronic acid) if he has a fall and fractures a bone (that could be your warning to him)." The likelihood of me persuading him to have a blood test is so low that its not quantifiable  .
He's bought the vitamin D, that's progress but I had a long fight to get him to take antibiotics once. I don't anticipate winning the vit D battle any time soon | |||
"The NHS has long advised people to take Vitamin D supplements between October and March." I keep telling my GP we need to have our trips to Gran Canaria on prescription but unfortunately we have to pay. | |||
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"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on.. "One of your mates pranking you? | |||
"The NHS has long advised people to take Vitamin D supplements between October and March. I keep telling my GP we need to have our trips to Gran Canaria on prescription but unfortunately we have to pay." | |||
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"Been reading up on that as well and being Scottish with a desk job I under_tand there is not much vitamin d from moon light! Early days but hoping I see a general improvement in my overall wellbeing. Have been so tired recently and wanting to fall asleep by about 6pm. Especially after recently having Covid for the first time. I don’t think it can hurt that much? Just a wee daily supplement that I’m happy to take! " I was advised by the pharmacist and GP to to take Vitamin D 2 or 3 times a week, rather than daily. I can't recall their reasoning, but that's what I do now.  | |||
"I take a dose of vitamin D once a month Shag because my specialist tells me to and not because of YouTube. T" I don't think one dose a month will be much benefit. | |||
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"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?"No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D | |||
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"I take a dose of vitamin D once a month Shag because my specialist tells me to and not because of YouTube. T I don't think one dose a month will be much benefit. "Apparently you can take daily/weekly/monthly doses. | |||
"The NHS has long advised people to take Vitamin D supplements between October and March. I keep telling my GP we need to have our trips to Gran Canaria on prescription but unfortunately we have to pay." If only! | |||
"Yet during covid the lying bastard Hancock told parliament there was no evidence that increased vitamin D levels would be beneficial to those at high risk. " Well it depends on the context of the question he was answering. There would have been no immediate benefit so a mass campaign of force feeding VitD wouldn't have made any significant (or probably any) difference at the time So he may well have been correct | |||
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"I take a dose of vitamin D once a month Shag because my specialist tells me to and not because of YouTube. T I don't think one dose a month will be much benefit. "Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin so can be stored in the body. So it is possible to take it in daily, weekly or monthly doses with appropriate adjustment of the quantity. Some vitamins, like vitamin c, are not stored in the body so need regular replenishment. Interesting fact, dogs make their own vitamin c. And if you eat a polar bear’s liver, you are likely to get vitamin d poisoning. | |||
"I take a dose of vitamin D once a month Shag because my specialist tells me to and not because of YouTube. T I don't think one dose a month will be much benefit.
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin so can be stored in the body. So it is possible to take it in daily, weekly or monthly doses with appropriate adjustment of the quantity. Some vitamins, like vitamin c, are not stored in the body so need regular replenishment. Interesting fact, dogs make their own vitamin c. And if you eat a polar bear’s liver, you are likely to get vitamin d poisoning."Arse. Apparently you get vitamin A poisoning from eating polar bear liver. | |||
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"The NHS has long advised people to take Vitamin D supplements between October and March. I keep telling my GP we need to have our trips to Gran Canaria on prescription but unfortunately we have to pay." is it cheaper to book the holiday than pay for prescription these days | |||
"The NHS has long advised people to take Vitamin D supplements between October and March. I keep telling my GP we need to have our trips to Gran Canaria on prescription but unfortunately we have to pay.is it cheaper to book the holiday than pay for prescription these days" I know Easjet are cheap but £10 for a holiday? | |||
"I take a dose of vitamin D once a month Shag because my specialist tells me to and not because of YouTube. T I don't think one dose a month will be much benefit. "Thanks for your advice but if my specialist tells me to eat shit I’d ask her how much because I’m a good sheep. To be fair I forgot last months dose. T | |||
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"I’ll try to settle this for the simpletons: there’s benefits in taking some extra vitamin D due to relative lack of it in a typical (shitty) English diet and due to the English weather. This is particularly true for children (1 to 4) and babies (unless it’s already available in the formula milk they may take) From March to April you should be able to make your own vit D by exposing yourself. To sunlight, I mean! Doses recommended can be found on the nhs website. Going above the recommended dose will result in no benefit and in a wee rich in vitamin D. Vitamin D does not prevent covid per se, so people buying the supply during the pandemic were just being stupid." From March to April? | |||
"I’ll try to settle this for the simpletons: there’s benefits in taking some extra vitamin D due to relative lack of it in a typical (shitty) English diet and due to the English weather. This is particularly true for children (1 to 4) and babies (unless it’s already available in the formula milk they may take) From March to April you should be able to make your own vit D by exposing yourself. To sunlight, I mean! Doses recommended can be found on the nhs website. Going above the recommended dose will result in no benefit and in a wee rich in vitamin D. Vitamin D does not prevent covid per se, so people buying the supply during the pandemic were just being stupid. From March to April?" Pardon me, from March to September | |||
"I was in my early 50s suffering from a few things I made a Doctors appointment he was actually a locum Doctor and he said have a blood test for low vitamin D He was spot on It was really low Had a few weeks course of high vitamin D tablets spread over not daily and was ok back to normal levels I do wonder how many years I was deficient? In my own personal opinion! Get checked out ." It's not static. A bit like investment, goes up and down. | |||
"I’ll try to settle this for the simpletons: there’s benefits in taking some extra vitamin D due to relative lack of it in a typical (shitty) English diet and due to the English weather. This is particularly true for children (1 to 4) and babies (unless it’s already available in the formula milk they may take) From March to April you should be able to make your own vit D by exposing yourself. To sunlight, I mean! Doses recommended can be found on the nhs website. Going above the recommended dose will result in no benefit and in a wee rich in vitamin D. Vitamin D does not prevent covid per se, so people buying the supply during the pandemic were just being stupid." It’s been correctly pointed out to me that vitamin D does not get excreted via the urinary system. In fact it gets excreted with faeces. My bad, I confused with vitamin C
And of course “March to April” should be “March to September “.
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"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements." I would like to know how they judge this. Here is my point: if you reduce anyones chance of getting cancer, you increase the possibility of them being hit by a bus if only because they will live longer. Is vitamin D responsible for more bus deaths? | |||
"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements. I would like to know how they judge this. ..." Like this https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2598 | |||
"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements. I would like to know how they judge this. Here is my point: if you reduce anyones chance of getting cancer, you increase the possibility of them being hit by a bus if only because they will live longer. Is vitamin D responsible for more bus deaths?" It's called "research" and "continuous monitoring and evaluation" Nothing new | |||
"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements." As it's a longitudinal research (22 years), I'd want to know further information such as lifestyles (diet, smoking, alcohol intake, family history, stress), before being concerned about the increase in cvd. As it could be any of those variables which have contributed to cardiovascular disease. | |||
"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements. I would like to know how they judge this. ... Like this https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2598 " Unfortunately, access to the methodology of this study requires me to purchase it. | |||
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"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D"just had results from third blood tests in a year.. so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either. i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time. i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while. all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82  | |||
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"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82 "Just out of curiosity. If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them? | |||
"I watched a very interesting interview about vitamin d and the immune system system, here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hO7fniCbmw&t=2057s He interview dr david grimes, they talked all things about vitamin d and how essential and important it is for ones immune system, also how vitamin d is a hormone that is produced in the skin, an oil in the skin. They also talked about what happens if you have low and high levels of it, such as when one have good and high levels of vitamin d, one dont get infections like the flu and those with low levels gets it a lot easier, they concluded that immunity is best measured by vitamin d. Another interesting thing they talked about was when a baby is born in the spring they would have an increased risk of developing multiple sclerosis later in adult life than a baby who are born in the autumn, autumn birth means the mother was pregnant during the summer, as she pass on the vitamin d to the baby, so a baby that is born in the autumn have an biological advantage in several different ways. What is your view about it and do you agree with them? "I would say this is the wrong platform for posting this nerdy info. | |||
"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements. I would like to know how they judge this. ... Like this https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2598 Unfortunately, access to the methodology of this study requires me to purchase it." Don't waste your money You'd find fault with it one way or another | |||
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"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements. I would like to know how they judge this. ... Like this https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2598 Unfortunately, access to the methodology of this study requires me to purchase it. Don't waste your money You'd find fault with it one way or another" Observation and rigorous scepticism are both principles of scientific method. Something I under_tand because I’ve done research in applied physics. You weren’t complimenting my capacity though we’re you? | |||
"Quite from "medical news today" Research suggests the use of calcium and vitamin D supplements may reduce the risk of cancer deaths in postmenopausal women but may also increase the risk of death from cardiovascular disease. Calcium and vitamin D supplements are often recommended for postmenopausal women to prevent bone loss. Experts say the research should be interpreted with caution and women should discuss with their doctor whether they should take supplements. I would like to know how they judge this. ... Like this https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2598 Unfortunately, access to the methodology of this study requires me to purchase it. Don't waste your money You'd find fault with it one way or another Observation and rigorous scepticism are both principles of scientific method. Something I under_tand because I’ve done research in applied physics. You weren’t complimenting my capacity though we’re you?" Well now that I know you've done research in applied physics it's compliments all the way Just for balance, I'm the queen of Sheba | |||
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"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82 "Your GP/doctor will request what tests he wants each time blood is taken. Maybe vit D wasn't requested the third time, or if in normal range, you wasn't told the result. When having a blood test, I ask for the results (IE all of them). | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?"just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc, | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?
just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc, "And once you've done your own research and don't like what you see, then what? | |||
" ..i google and read side effects etc, " I'm curious as to who provides the information to Google on side effects ? Why do you think this would be a more credible source of information than your GP ? | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?
just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc, "All meds have side effects, its a balancing act. But good luck and good health to you. | |||
" ..i google and read side effects etc, I'm curious as to who provides the information to Google on side effects ? Why do you think this would be a more credible source of information than your GP ?" You can get that info from product manufacturers (they publish the same info as what's on their leaflets). | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?
just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc, "Improving lifestyle shouldn't just be "for a bit". | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?
just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc,
And once you've done your own research and don't like what you see, then what?"My father was a geriatric charge nurse running a very large hospital. It was common for him to check his patient medications and find contraindications which the doctors prescribing had missed. Doctors too often ignore the medications already prescribed when prescribing more medicines and introduce conflicts. Luckily for those patients my father was very thorough. | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?
just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc,
And once you've done your own research and don't like what you see, then what?
My father was a geriatric charge nurse running a very large hospital. It was common for him to check his patient medications and find contraindications which the doctors prescribing had missed.
Doctors too often ignore the medications already prescribed when prescribing more medicines and introduce conflicts.
Luckily for those patients my father was very thorough."Nurses are the patient's safety net. It still happens and it's the nurse's duty to check before administering any medication. I've known doctors to prescribe antibiotics that the patient is allergic to, and that information being on the chart | |||
"Last time i went to the doctors was about a year ago , had blood tests ..then got a phone call randomly , not even the doctor i saw , he said you have to take vitamin d for the rest of your life , didnt give an explanation , i said listen pal , i work outside 365 days a year , go to hot countrys 3 times a year , one being in december, he said dont take my advice then ! i paid for a private blood test and results of vitamin D levels was spot on..
One of your mates pranking you?
No true story , ive just literally got back from my new doctors, ive booked another blood test to treble check my vit D
just had results from third blood tests in a year..
so first one doctor told me i must take vitamin d supplement rest of my life
second blood test vit D levels fine even though i ignored the doctors advice
third blood test , no mention of vitamin D again , very slightly high cholestral levels , take statin ....i wont be taking those either.
i believe on my experience blood tests vary and change each time.
i'll do a bit of walking and reduce butter and biscuits a bit for a while.
all the things nhs stated that cause cholestral , drinking , smoking , fatty foods etc etc my mother dosent and never has consumed and her cholestrol is very slightly high , well she is 82
Just out of curiosity.
If you take no notice of doctors advice, why do you visit them?
just for a check up really...i just dont agree with the tablets they dish out willy nilly ..i google and read side effects etc,
And once you've done your own research and don't like what you see, then what?
My father was a geriatric charge nurse running a very large hospital. It was common for him to check his patient medications and find contraindications which the doctors prescribing had missed.
Doctors too often ignore the medications already prescribed when prescribing more medicines and introduce conflicts.
Luckily for those patients my father was very thorough."He was doing his job, it's up him to ensure the drugs prescribed don't have complications eg combined levels of sodium in the drugs don't exceed thresholds. Part of the training | |||
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"If you’re eating a normal diet then you shouldn’t need supplements. Having said that, taking excess Vit D is highly unlikely to cause issues (although it may - too much Vit C can be problematic, for example). So if you feel you need to take it then crack on but any different you feel may be psychological…" What we're told by the NHS about vitamin D is incorrect? | |||
"If you’re eating a normal diet then you shouldn’t need supplements. Having said that, taking excess Vit D is highly unlikely to cause issues (although it may - too much Vit C can be problematic, for example). So if you feel you need to take it then crack on but any different you feel may be psychological… What we're told by the NHS about vitamin D is incorrect?" No | |||
"I watched a very interesting interview about vitamin d and the immune system system, here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hO7fniCbmw&t=2057s He interview dr david grimes, they talked all things about vitamin d and how essential and important it is for ones immune system, also how vitamin d is a hormone that is produced in the skin, an oil in the skin. They also talked about what happens if you have low and high levels of it, such as when one have good and high levels of vitamin d, one dont get infections like the flu and those with low levels gets it a lot easier, they concluded that immunity is best measured by vitamin d. Another interesting thing they talked about was when a baby is born in the spring they would have an increased risk of developing multiple sclerosis later in adult life than a baby who are born in the autumn, autumn birth means the mother was pregnant during the summer, as she pass on the vitamin d to the baby, so a baby that is born in the autumn have an biological advantage in several different ways. What is your view about it and do you agree with them? "I do as I have psoriasis lol  | |||
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"My bloods showed low vitamin D last August, so I started taking 1000 units daily since then which I upped to 4000 about 6 weeks ago. Blood tests last month showed my vitamin D as still low!!! I guess I'm destined to be knackered forever..." Same here. I'm on 4000 units too. | |||
"I keep telling my GP we need to have our trips to Gran Canaria on prescription but unfortunately we have to pay." I asked my GP about winter sun and she said that the really important thing is to be naked as much as possible - it doesn't work if you keep your clothes on. But then that's good advice for life in general. | |||
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"My bloods showed low vitamin D last August, so I started taking 1000 units daily since then which I upped to 4000 about 6 weeks ago. Blood tests last month showed my vitamin D as still low!!! I guess I'm destined to be knackered forever..." Just in case, are you taking it with food, specifically with a fat? As it's fat soluble which will help it's absorption. | |||
"My bloods showed low vitamin D last August, so I started taking 1000 units daily since then which I upped to 4000 about 6 weeks ago. Blood tests last month showed my vitamin D as still low!!! I guess I'm destined to be knackered forever... Just in case, are you taking it with food, specifically with a fat? As it's fat soluble which will help it's absorption. " No - I take it in the morning along with B12 and some other bits so I'll switch up my routine. Thank you for the advice! | |||
"If you’re eating a normal diet then you shouldn’t need supplements. Having said that, taking excess Vit D is highly unlikely to cause issues (although it may - too much Vit C can be problematic, for example). So if you feel you need to take it then crack on but any different you feel may be psychological…" I generally agree that most vitamins taken aren't needed, especially for those with a balanced diet. We just do the equivalent of flushing our money down the loo, as we shed it. Vitamin D is different, as we don't typically consume enough here. That's when sunlight in the brighter months can help our bodies to manufacture it. Vitamin D supplementation is helpful to millions of us, due to our geographic location and lack of sun exposure. | |||
"My bloods showed low vitamin D last August, so I started taking 1000 units daily since then which I upped to 4000 about 6 weeks ago. Blood tests last month showed my vitamin D as still low!!! I guess I'm destined to be knackered forever... Just in case, are you taking it with food, specifically with a fat? As it's fat soluble which will help it's absorption. " What if it’s a joint cod liver oil and vitamin D capsule do you know? Any advice appreciated.  | |||
"My bloods showed low vitamin D last August, so I started taking 1000 units daily since then which I upped to 4000 about 6 weeks ago. Blood tests last month showed my vitamin D as still low!!! I guess I'm destined to be knackered forever... Just in case, are you taking it with food, specifically with a fat? As it's fat soluble which will help it's absorption. What if it’s a joint cod liver oil and vitamin D capsule do you know? Any advice appreciated. "From what I've read in scientific papers, vitamin D absorption can be increased by 50% if taken with your largest meal of the day. So it's what I do now, was taking it with breakfast so I've changed when I take it. Haven't done it for long enough to see a benefit yet though. | |||
