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"Seems the posters here are ultra gullible.Want to buy some magic beans?" Do you really think the UK's current flu epidemic is fake ? | |||
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"I think it's known as HMPV. It's been around since 2021 and it's quite common. " HMPV isn't flu or covid as I understand it. It is adding to the problems the NHS is currently experiencing though. | |||
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"I dont think it will be one, have you heard the latest about it? Apparently there is a new virus in china and they are facing a new crisis. Hong kong is on high alert as china grapples with hmpv, it is an respiratory virus that spreads from mainland china and it resemble common symptoms like cold and influenza, hmpv stands for the human metapneumovirus, they say that this situation arises after the onset of the covid pandemic. They are monitoring the situation and who has not declared it a global health emergency yet. What is your view about it and do you think that this is the next pandemic they are talking about?" it’s not a new virus. It happens every year. | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals " How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ?" Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones? | |||
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"When Boris was PM he promised 40 new hospitals or major refurbishments and when he left office the number achieved was zero. " You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.  | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital. "Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ? | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?"Yes and you look at a list of symptoms, put your money in, press the appropriate number and out pops a diagnosis and two paracetamol, sometimes a home plastering kit for broken limbs. | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals and also we’ve had a net influx of over 2 million people in the last 2 years…. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out both of those things will put huge pressure on the healthcare system!" Hospital planners don't cut beds for the fun of it. They cut beds when they don't have enough staff to man the wards safely, you can blame the government and nhs underfunding for that. | |||
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"I bloomin hope not!" Hi nicecouple, same here. I also hope not too. | |||
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"I bloomin hope not!Hi nicecouple, same here. I also hope not too." What would you do if there was another pandemic so soon? I like to think I'd carry on as normal but I'm not so sure | |||
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"Seems the posters here are ultra gullible.Want to buy some magic beans?" Your tin foil hat will protect you against FACTS and SCIENCE. Leylts hope that it takes more anti-vaxxers this time around | |||
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"I bloomin hope not!Hi nicecouple, same here. I also hope not too. What would you do if there was another pandemic so soon? I like to think I'd carry on as normal but I'm not so sure " That is good. I would also carry on as usually. I have a home gym, so I am already prepared if it would happen. | |||
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"I bloomin hope not!Hi nicecouple, same here. I also hope not too. What would you do if there was another pandemic so soon? I like to think I'd carry on as normal but I'm not so sure That is good. I would also carry on as usually. I have a home gym, so I am already prepared if it would happen." That's good. I don't know that I could tolerate another lock down | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones?" Yes. Next question? | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones?Yes. Next question?" Where has this happened? | |||
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"Seems the posters here are ultra gullible.Want to buy some magic beans? Your tin foil hat will protect you against FACTS and SCIENCE. Leylts hope that it takes more anti-vaxxers this time around" if the covid promitions were anything to go by there shouldnt be any anti vaxxers left should they? | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine. "My grandmother was in a nursing home for the last year of her life (2008) on the wall outside was a big sign and notice which stated don't enter if you have cold or flu symptoms as our residents are vulnerable to these ailments. Unfortunately every year from prob time began the death rates for the elderly and infirm rise in winter. This is not a new phenomenon since covid. | |||
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"I bloomin hope not!Hi nicecouple, same here. I also hope not too. What would you do if there was another pandemic so soon? I like to think I'd carry on as normal but I'm not so sure That is good. I would also carry on as usually. I have a home gym, so I am already prepared if it would happen. That's good. I don't know that I could tolerate another lock down " Yes, it is same here too. | |||
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"We currently have a Flu Pandemic which is overwhelming our hospitals" It's interesting the word overwhelming. And the spread of its use like a virus. Whta is the capacity of our hospitals and how many of those spaces are taken up with customers with flu? It may be the case. But it may that a few weeks ago when someone posted the same, there were 2000 people in hospitals withe flu / respiratory illnesses. I'd like to hope our health service is not overwhelmed if 2000 people are ill. | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones?Yes. Next question? Where has this happened?" NHS have been obsessed with a clinical and management pivot towards reducing the amount of time patients spend in hospital. Flow is what matters - and the better clinical outcomes delivered by getting people out of hospital quicker demand more emphasis on day cases, and less emphasis on bed spaces. That means in turn less staff on night duty, and simpler less well appointed wards which are ideal for turning round day cases but no use for doing longer term care with older people with, for instance, respiratory complaints. | |||
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"When Boris was PM he promised 40 new hospitals or major refurbishments and when he left office the number achieved was zero. " But apart from that... He did such a great job! | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine. "How many of them have had a flu vax? Or not had a flu vax? | |||
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"When Boris was PM he promised 40 new hospitals or major refurbishments and when he left office the number achieved was zero. But apart from that... He did such a great job! " I hope that is sarcasm. Boris and his Brexshit has near destroyed industry in this country | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine.
How many of them have had a flu vax? Or not had a flu vax? "Flu vaccines reduce the symptoms of the flu for a vast majority of people. Those with underlying health conditions may still have problems even with a vaccine | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine.
How many of them have had a flu vax? Or not had a flu vax?
Flu vaccines reduce the symptoms of the flu for a vast majority of people. Those with underlying health conditions may still have problems even with a vaccine"peer reviewed studies again? | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine.
How many of them have had a flu vax? Or not had a flu vax?
Flu vaccines reduce the symptoms of the flu for a vast majority of people. Those with underlying health conditions may still have problems even with a vaccinepeer reviewed studies again? "Nah, just facts | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine.
How many of them have had a flu vax? Or not had a flu vax?
Flu vaccines reduce the symptoms of the flu for a vast majority of people. Those with underlying health conditions may still have problems even with a vaccinepeer reviewed studies again?
Nah, just facts "haha them "FaCtS" again | |||
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"Who knows if we are or not. However, I suspect they won't have control of the people if they do try and lockdown now. People are wise to it, we were all locked down and government ministers were all partying and having it off with one another. I believe the vast majority of people would just ignore a lockdown now. " My Tin foil hat wearing friend said way back at the start of lockdowns. This pandemic is fake, the lockdown is to 1. See who will comply and 2. To make everyone annoyed so they won't comply when the next pandemic hits as that one will be real. They have theories upon theories.. | |||
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"When Boris was PM he promised 40 new hospitals or major refurbishments and when he left office the number achieved was zero. You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital. "Does it dispense beds, staff and free meds? | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones?" Yep. The idea is primary care and community nursing take up the slack. However, this is impossible as one nurse can only travel to see one patient at a time (we do see couples fairly regularly). When we can time travel, we'll be able to do more | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?"Don't know why patients aren't two to a bed. They did it in workhouses | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones? Yep. The idea is primary care and community nursing take up the slack. However, this is impossible as one nurse can only travel to see one patient at a time (we do see couples fairly regularly). When we can time travel, we'll be able to do more "community nursing is pushed to virtual, certainly for health visiters anyway, not sure how well you can get a feel for mother, baby and surroundings on a video call | |||
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"There wont be another lockdown if another pandemic hit, the whole world are broke and cant afford to lockdown again, it will be everyone for themselves if you make you make and if you dont then you dont" If we’d have done that last time we wouldn’t be in such a mess now. | |||
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"We currently have a Flu Pandemic which is overwhelming our hospitals" Like we do every January | |||
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"I'm sure the antivaxers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of bragging about not being vaxed whilst viruses ravage care homes and vulnerable people. # I'm alrightjack We are seeing the results of this mutton headed attitude today as hospitals are swamped with flu cases because people have believed all the disinformation spread about vaccines and not taken up the flu vaccine.
How many of them have had a flu vax? Or not had a flu vax?
Flu vaccines reduce the symptoms of the flu for a vast majority of people. Those with underlying health conditions may still have problems even with a vaccinepeer reviewed studies again?
Nah, just facts "Are there any facts that say how many flu patients in hospital have been vaccinated and how many have not? | |||
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"I dont think it will be one, have you heard the latest about it? Apparently there is a new virus in china and they are facing a new crisis. Hong kong is on high alert as china grapples with hmpv, it is an respiratory virus that spreads from mainland china and it resemble common symptoms like cold and influenza, hmpv stands for the human metapneumovirus, they say that this situation arises after the onset of the covid pandemic. They are monitoring the situation and who has not declared it a global health emergency yet. What is your view about it and do you think that this is the next pandemic they are talking about?" ? Possibly, who really knows.? Without any facts people are just repeating the same shite they do about the last covid one. People double down without any substantive evidence at all. Media stoke it up with emotive language and agenda led story telling. We build hospitals presumably to treat and house people. Then when they treat and house people in winter. Which happens every year without fail we start panic mongering for some reason. Our health service is with a few exceptions shockingly bad. And then we are surprised when it provides a bad service. That aside. Let's hope there isn't another lurgy round the corner. We are not very good at coping with bad stuff. | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones? Yep. The idea is primary care and community nursing take up the slack. However, this is impossible as one nurse can only travel to see one patient at a time (we do see couples fairly regularly). When we can time travel, we'll be able to do more community nursing is pushed to virtual, certainly for health visiters anyway, not sure how well you can get a feel for mother, baby and surroundings on a video call "You cannot dress wounds, give injections or catheterise people, virtually  | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again." Last time we isolated to protect elderly and vulnerable people. It was worth it. That's what humans in a community or society do for each other. | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones? Yep. The idea is primary care and community nursing take up the slack. However, this is impossible as one nurse can only travel to see one patient at a time (we do see couples fairly regularly). When we can time travel, we'll be able to do more community nursing is pushed to virtual, certainly for health visiters anyway, not sure how well you can get a feel for mother, baby and surroundings on a video call
You cannot dress wounds, give injections or catheterise people, virtually "hence why i said health visitor but still no idea how theyre meant to check on a baby and mother 🤷 | |||
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"We currently have a Flu Pandemic which is overwhelming our hospitals" yup. I was unfortunately in a&e over the weekend and they were segregating those with flu. Was at least 11 people with severe respiratory issues due to flu or similar. I also had to be kept in a day care ward as the main gyne ward has a covid and flu outbreak in it. To the op.. its not a new virus in China. It is just a bit more severe this year | |||
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"We currently have a Flu Pandemic which is overwhelming our hospitals yup. I was unfortunately in a&e over the weekend and they were segregating those with flu. Was at least 11 people with severe respiratory issues due to flu or similar. I also had to be kept in a day care ward as the main gyne ward has a covid and flu outbreak in it. To the op.. its not a new virus in China. It is just a bit more severe this year " maybe this years current flu vax isnt the best match so not as effective as usual? | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again." i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. | |||
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"We currently have a Flu Pandemic which is overwhelming our hospitals yup. I was unfortunately in a&e over the weekend and they were segregating those with flu. Was at least 11 people with severe respiratory issues due to flu or similar. I also had to be kept in a day care ward as the main gyne ward has a covid and flu outbreak in it. To the op.. its not a new virus in China. It is just a bit more severe this year maybe this years current flu vax isnt the best match so not as effective as usual? " according to the news today it's a bad mix of illnesses. Flu,covid, and a few others | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. " we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older " yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older " Yes but also dont give granny a novel virus. Building your immune system is one thing (think chicken pox parties) but covid was much more dangerous. You wouldnt hug a pregnant woman if you had measles. You wouldnt want to spread monkeypox around your friends and family or the general public. Listen to the nhs. If this was a conspiracy and overreaction it was one that involved tens of millions of co conspirators across the globe | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. " makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older Yes but also dont give granny a novel virus. Building your immune system is one thing (think chicken pox parties) but covid was much more dangerous. You wouldnt hug a pregnant woman if you had measles. You wouldnt want to spread monkeypox around your friends and family or the general public. Listen to the nhs. If this was a conspiracy and overreaction it was one that involved tens of millions of co conspirators across the globe" dont worry we remember "get a jab save granny" 👍 | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals and also we’ve had a net influx of over 2 million people in the last 2 years…. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out both of those things will put huge pressure on the healthcare system!" Where are these new hospitals you speak of? | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍" I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals and also we’ve had a net influx of over 2 million people in the last 2 years…. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out both of those things will put huge pressure on the healthcare system! Where are these new hospitals you speak of?" rwanda | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc " wife did too long before masks and vaccines and only caught it once we think | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals and also we’ve had a net influx of over 2 million people in the last 2 years…. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out both of those things will put huge pressure on the healthcare system! Where are these new hospitals you speak of?rwanda " An increase of about 4% in the population isn't stressing ICU capacity is it? That's a mental claim. GPs services yes but those migrants are all young healthy people. It is old and vulnerable people who suffer during flu season | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc wife did too long before masks and vaccines and only caught it once we think " as far as masks go in my opinion thats all, i think they do help reduce the spread as would a handkerchief with a cough but do absolutely 0% of preventing you catching it due the particle size | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc " I went to cyrupus after the pandemic and they wouldn't let me on a bus without a mask on lol They're way stricter in other countries than here | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals and also we’ve had a net influx of over 2 million people in the last 2 years…. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out both of those things will put huge pressure on the healthcare system! Where are these new hospitals you speak of?rwanda An increase of about 4% in the population isn't stressing ICU capacity is it? That's a mental claim. GPs services yes but those migrants are all young healthy people. It is old and vulnerable people who suffer during flu season" i didnt say rwanandans | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc I went to cyrupus after the pandemic and they wouldn't let me on a bus without a mask on lol They're way stricter in other countries than here " im sure i read something of a study saying that every germ in the world combined would fit inside a shot glass so the crappy paper masks would have no chance stopping you catching it | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc I went to cyrupus after the pandemic and they wouldn't let me on a bus without a mask on lol They're way stricter in other countries than here im sure i read something of a study saying that every germ in the world combined would fit inside a shot glass so the crappy paper masks would have no chance stopping you catching it " depends on the quality of thr mask and how you wear it. Some good studies show the reductions in transmission along with other good practice.. such as hand hygiene and vaccines for flu etc x | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc I went to cyrupus after the pandemic and they wouldn't let me on a bus without a mask on lol They're way stricter in other countries than here im sure i read something of a study saying that every germ in the world combined would fit inside a shot glass so the crappy paper masks would have no chance stopping you catching it depends on the quality of thr mask and how you wear it. Some good studies show the reductions in transmission along with other good practice.. such as hand hygiene and vaccines for flu etc x" i didnt really see anybody wearing proper masks at the time, mostly blue disposable ones and as for transmission i think it will reduce it on the bases that theyll contain large particles from a wearer | |||
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"It's winter, it's cold, people have colds, flu and chest infections, don't give the elite a chance to over react again, it's was bullshit last time and will be again if you fearful covidians start wearing your face muzzles again. i am wearing a mask in certain places as I have done every winter since covid. We were taught coughs and sneezes spread diseases as kids... so wearing a mask helps prevent that. we were also taught.. Get out in that mud and get some germs itll look after you when your older yeah but it makes sense to wear a mask when in close contact.. especially in medical settings. makes more sense to not get into close contact but sometimes thats not the case i get that, and if you want to wear a mask your choice 👍 I worked in health care during covid and travelled around Italy once we could. They were much stricter with mask wearing. No health exceptions. I managed to work with covid patients during the worst of it without catching it as I used masks... and other ppl.. plus had my vaccines etc I went to cyrupus after the pandemic and they wouldn't let me on a bus without a mask on lol They're way stricter in other countries than here im sure i read something of a study saying that every germ in the world combined would fit inside a shot glass so the crappy paper masks would have no chance stopping you catching it depends on the quality of thr mask and how you wear it. Some good studies show the reductions in transmission along with other good practice.. such as hand hygiene and vaccines for flu etc x" 
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"According to the bbc it's the worst winter overwhelming of the health service in a generation. So presumably it's worse than the original generational overwhelming winter of covid? And that's including all those lessons we all learned from the last 4 year's of fighting covid. More saucepans need to be banged.. Or maybe more hand sanitizer. " and how many people are in a hospital overwhelming it? 40 /80? | |||
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"According to the bbc it's the worst winter overwhelming of the health service in a generation. So presumably it's worse than the original generational overwhelming winter of covid? And that's including all those lessons we all learned from the last 4 year's of fighting covid. More saucepans need to be banged.. Or maybe more hand sanitizer. and how many people are in a hospital overwhelming it? 40 /80? " sorry ill add with the flu /covid | |||
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"According to the bbc it's the worst winter overwhelming of the health service in a generation. So presumably it's worse than the original generational overwhelming winter of covid? And that's including all those lessons we all learned from the last 4 year's of fighting covid. More saucepans need to be banged.. Or maybe more hand sanitizer. and how many people are in a hospital overwhelming it? 40 /80? " https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/01/busiest-year-on-record-for-emergency-services-as-winter-flu-pressure-rages-on/ | |||
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"According to the bbc it's the worst winter overwhelming of the health service in a generation. So presumably it's worse than the original generational overwhelming winter of covid? And that's including all those lessons we all learned from the last 4 year's of fighting covid. More saucepans need to be banged.. Or maybe more hand sanitizer. and how many people are in a hospital overwhelming it? 40 /80? sorry ill add with the flu /covid " With flu it was 5,074 on 29/12/24 | |||
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"According to the bbc it's the worst winter overwhelming of the health service in a generation. So presumably it's worse than the original generational overwhelming winter of covid? And that's including all those lessons we all learned from the last 4 year's of fighting covid. More saucepans need to be banged.. Or maybe more hand sanitizer. and how many people are in a hospital overwhelming it? 40 /80? sorry ill add with the flu /covid With flu it was 5,074 on 29/12/24" over how many hospitals? | |||
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"On a side note, there's still time to get the flu vaccine for this winter, to help to protect you and others for the rest of the flu season. " Absolutely. Vaccines save lives. If you are eligible make sure you get yours - protect yourself, protect your loved ones and your community. | |||
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"The increase in flue cases is partly due to a decline in people TAKING THE VACCINE. So...if you are over 50 or vulnerable, get your flu shot ffs." Not only flu that has seen an increase in cases due to vaccine hesitancy. See also Measles, whooping cough and other preventable diseases. WHO estimated a decade ago that around 1.5 million children died globally each year due to reduced vaccination rates. Can only imagine that number will rise due to the conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation in the last few years. If you can get vaccinated. | |||
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"The increase in flue cases is partly due to a decline in people TAKING THE VACCINE. So...if you are over 50 or vulnerable, get your flu shot ffs. Not only flu that has seen an increase in cases due to vaccine hesitancy. See also Measles, whooping cough and other preventable diseases. WHO estimated a decade ago that around 1.5 million children died globally each year due to reduced vaccination rates. Can only imagine that number will rise due to the conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation in the last few years. If you can get vaccinated." Trouble is, often the issue was caused by misinformation being spread by the health services, pharma, gov etc which has never really been addressed. They created the open door and allowed the conspiracies to kick it in. There certainly needs to be more effort put into rebuilding trust because as you say if there are folks who would benefit from an available vaccine it's good they are helped. If they choose not to, that should also be respected however. Not sure why some folks seem to feel they should force interventions on other people. Accurate, non sensational reporting would be a good place to start. But getting caught out by people getting winter illness in winter is not excusable. Further they will know how effective the flu vaccine is and how many folks have had it. | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?
Don't know why patients aren't two to a bed. They did it in workhouses "Imagine if the health and justice ministers had this conversation and had a brainwave..bunk beds on the wards | |||
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"It's interesting also the myth of conspiracy theorists spoiling uptake of the flu vaccine. In 2015 the uptake was 71%.. In 2019 it was 72%..in 2023 it was 80%. Figures for 2024 obviously not yet available but seems the rates of uptake now are higher and yet we are overwhelmed than they were in 2015 when we weren't overwhelmed. " be all the syrian flu variants sailing over to greener pastures 😂 | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?
Don't know why patients aren't two to a bed. They did it in workhouses
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" be all the syrian flu variants sailing over to greener pastures 😂" Can I ask what you mean by that? | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?
Don't know why patients aren't two to a bed. They did it in workhouses
Imagine if the health and justice ministers had this conversation and had a brainwave..bunk beds on the wards
Or go back to the twopenny hangover, could get many more crammed in then. " my dad's always talking about that | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?
Don't know why patients aren't two to a bed. They did it in workhouses
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Or go back to the twopenny hangover, could get many more crammed in then. "Saucepans and ointment is whats needed | |||
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" be all the syrian flu variants sailing over to greener pastures 😂 Can I ask what you mean by that?" I think we all know what the poster is implying…… Shane some people are so narrow minded. ( the poster I mean) | |||
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"The Flu is back ? It was missing in 2020, 21 , 22 all covid " it was there but it was obviously going to be less cases... as the very things we did to stop the spread of covid , also stopped the spread of flu.. as flu was less transmissible than covid | |||
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"The Flu is back ? It was missing in 2020, 21 , 22 all covid it was there but it was obviously going to be less cases... as the very things we did to stop the spread of covid , also stopped the spread of flu.. as flu was less transmissible than covid " oh well we best start eating out to help out again then😂😂 | |||
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"The Flu is back ? It was missing in 2020, 21 , 22 all covid it was there but it was obviously going to be less cases... as the very things we did to stop the spread of covid , also stopped the spread of flu.. as flu was less transmissible than covid oh well we best start eating out to help out again then😂😂" does the common sense in nto going out if you have symptoms and basic hygiene fail to sink in Very few places now have hand sanitiser stations outside them any more. Places to wipe down handles etc | |||
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"The Flu is back ? It was missing in 2020, 21 , 22 all covid it was there but it was obviously going to be less cases... as the very things we did to stop the spread of covid , also stopped the spread of flu.. as flu was less transmissible than covid oh well we best start eating out to help out again then😂😂 does the common sense in nto going out if you have symptoms and basic hygiene fail to sink in Very few places now have hand sanitiser stations outside them any more. Places to wipe down handles etc " sorry but i had 3 years of been called a murderer and granny killer for using common sense so lets stick to the goverment guidelines they have it all under control im sure | |||
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"Oh dear, still believing the lies!!?" What lies? | |||
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"Are actually believed in the first outbreak?" Sorry, what is this supposed to mean? | |||
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" You're just nit picking now. There's a new vending machine in the waiting room at our local hospital.
Is there space for one patient underneath and one on top ?
Don't know why patients aren't two to a bed. They did it in workhouses
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Or go back to the twopenny hangover, could get many more crammed in then. "Ooh something I'm too young to know | |||
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"Oh dear, still believing the lies!!? What lies? " About how many were KILLED by COVID. | |||
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"Oh dear, still believing the lies!!? What lies? About how many were KILLED by COVID." Same as normal flu before COVID. | |||
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"The flu is the same rates as it it was 2 years ago. Hospitals busy because hospital planners seem to love cutting beds when they build new hospitals How many new hospitals have been built in the last two years ? Also how are beds being cut when new hospitals are built? Are they closing old ones and building smaller ones? Yep. The idea is primary care and community nursing take up the slack. However, this is impossible as one nurse can only travel to see one patient at a time (we do see couples fairly regularly). When we can time travel, we'll be able to do more community nursing is pushed to virtual, certainly for health visiters anyway, not sure how well you can get a feel for mother, baby and surroundings on a video call "But health visiting isn’t the same as community nursing, it’s public health nursing and they all have a variety of different nursing experiences. | |||
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"Oh dear, still believing the lies!!? What lies? About how many were KILLED by COVID." My dear old mum was killed by it and died a horrible tortured death sadly. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?!" Responsibility for his children, perhaps? Not that that's connected to increased respiratory infection levels, unless you're privy to some secret intelligence? | |||
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"Oh dear, still believing the lies!!? What lies? About how many were KILLED by COVID. Same as normal flu before COVID. " Variation on a theme. Let's say a man is COVID free and was hit by a car, and was doomed to die from his injuries. Someone who helps him, transfers the COVID bug to him, and a few days later he dies. On his death certificate, COVID would have been put down as a contributing factor. Why ? | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?!" How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars?" A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag." I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. " Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted." In what way? | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way?" The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. | |||
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" How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag." I have never seen a Ukrainian car in the UK | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly." Those figures make perfect sense. They also relate directly to the statement of "driven by a male in army recruitment age", which most would be safe to presume is insinuating that only men have fled Ukraine. The same men who should be in their own country on the front lines, if by some notion developed nations fight like it's trench warfare still (they don't) but still, it's barely any significance the age/sex/wealth someone has to be in another country, out the way of war. | |||
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" How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I have never seen a Ukrainian car in the UK " Seen plenty where I live and work. Check out the independent school car parks. Always a few in there. | |||
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" Seen plenty where I live and work. Check out the independent school car parks. Always a few in there. " Not in Leeds ! | |||
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" How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I have never seen a Ukrainian car in the UK Seen plenty where I live and work. Check out the independent school car parks. Always a few in there. " Mostly audi q8s and bmws | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly." Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. | |||
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" How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I have never seen a Ukrainian car in the UK " No I haven't either. There's a competitively large Ukrainian refugee community around here but the ones who drive must be using UK plate cars I imagine you'd need to be fairly well off to import your car rather than getting on when you arrived. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars." You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. | |||
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" How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I have never seen a Ukrainian car in the UK No I haven't either. There's a competitively large Ukrainian refugee community around here but the ones who drive must be using UK plate cars I imagine you'd need to be fairly well off to import your car rather than getting on when you arrived. " I've seen Ukrainian plates/flags on car regs, but then I live in London and see allsorts, not just licorice either | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. " Yeah my punctuation is atrocious . Eats Shoots and Leaves was written for me.
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. Yeah my punctuation is atrocious . Eats Shoots and Leaves was written for me.
Tolerance is low on many things I agree. I think understanding of others perspective has always been in short supply...a bit like commas in my writing "My vocabulary is very outdated in terms of being PC and inoffensive, I have to take time writing sentences in online platforms which I fail to be so meticulous about verbally. I attribute a lot of my use of this language to working in a factory for over a decade, not excusing it, but it became a normal to laugh and ridicule, even though it is not meant offensively in any way. I'm talking men and women of all ages races and creeds being (from an outsider perspective) seemingly racist, sexist, bigoted etc. to each other but will be offended if they're not seen in the same pubs at the weekend drinking pints like nothing has happened. Now I'm not saying I agree with being outwardly nasty to people, but I do believe in the phrase 'sticks and stones...', although not to be taken too literally, it does seem people have lost the ability to think they are talking to another who also has an arsehole. Anyway, so I would say a lack of commas is the last thing to worry about. Now the reason my digressing is relative is that in dealing with pandemics and whatever else crises' are thrown at us, you need cooperation. Everybody is more selfish these days and I bet 💯 of everyone else, if they're truly honest with themselves, will admit they are also getting gradually more selfish | |||
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"Flue is part of life, killer for the weak unfortunately but the rest of the generation need to be exposed to it Why does anyone need exposure to disease? "To build immunity... Chicken pox parties are a thing... | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. " That is an excellent point made well. Trouble is it's too easy to hide behind a keyboard and write in pleasantries. Maybe we should have tolerant Tuesdays as well as tits out tuesdays | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. Yeah my punctuation is atrocious . Eats Shoots and Leaves was written for me.
Tolerance is low on many things I agree. I think understanding of others perspective has always been in short supply...a bit like commas in my writing
My vocabulary is very outdated in terms of being PC and inoffensive, I have to take time writing sentences in online platforms which I fail to be so meticulous about verbally. I attribute a lot of my use of this language to working in a factory for over a decade, not excusing it, but it became a normal to laugh and ridicule, even though it is not meant offensively in any way. I'm talking men and women of all ages races and creeds being (from an outsider perspective) seemingly racist, sexist, bigoted etc. to each other but will be offended if they're not seen in the same pubs at the weekend drinking pints like nothing has happened. Now I'm not saying I agree with being outwardly nasty to people, but I do believe in the phrase 'sticks and stones...', although not to be taken too literally, it does seem people have lost the ability to think they are talking to another who also has an arsehole. Anyway, so I would say a lack of commas is the last thing to worry about.
Now the reason my digressing is relative is that in dealing with pandemics and whatever else crises' are thrown at us, you need cooperation. Everybody is more selfish these days and I bet 💯 of everyone else, if they're truly honest with themselves, will admit they are also getting gradually more selfish "Right or write again. It was happening before the covid mullarkey, then we had about 3 weeks where we all tried really hard to help people out, and then all hell broke loose with people buying colossal amounts of toilet tissue and pasta while little old folks were left to go without... People accusing others of being selfish for no good reason than they could. And those habits seem to have stuck very easily. You make a great reminder to take a Moments pause before being a dick. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. Yeah my punctuation is atrocious . Eats Shoots and Leaves was written for me.
Tolerance is low on many things I agree. I think understanding of others perspective has always been in short supply...a bit like commas in my writing
My vocabulary is very outdated in terms of being PC and inoffensive, I have to take time writing sentences in online platforms which I fail to be so meticulous about verbally. I attribute a lot of my use of this language to working in a factory for over a decade, not excusing it, but it became a normal to laugh and ridicule, even though it is not meant offensively in any way. I'm talking men and women of all ages races and creeds being (from an outsider perspective) seemingly racist, sexist, bigoted etc. to each other but will be offended if they're not seen in the same pubs at the weekend drinking pints like nothing has happened. Now I'm not saying I agree with being outwardly nasty to people, but I do believe in the phrase 'sticks and stones...', although not to be taken too literally, it does seem people have lost the ability to think they are talking to another who also has an arsehole. Anyway, so I would say a lack of commas is the last thing to worry about.
Now the reason my digressing is relative is that in dealing with pandemics and whatever else crises' are thrown at us, you need cooperation. Everybody is more selfish these days and I bet 💯 of everyone else, if they're truly honest with themselves, will admit they are also getting gradually more selfish "Oh I'm definitely getting more selfish in some respects. Nothing to do with the pandemic and everything to do with self preservation. I'll still put a hand out to help a person up though, physically and figuratively | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again." Who are “they” | |||
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"All colds flu etc are corona viruses. They all have the ability to redevelop and renew themselves. The human body adapts to counteract this and on it goes again. The big problem is when the media instill panic in the population. " Influenza is a corona virus and most cold aren't corona viruses either | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again. Who are “they” " Government acting for WEF,UN,and big business. | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again. Who are “they” Government acting for WEF,UN,and big business." Big business I can possibly understand. Why would they be acting for the UN or WEF? | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again. Who are “they” Government acting for WEF,UN,and big business." So all the Govts around the world got together did they? Hmmmm…….. we think not. | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again. Who are “they” Government acting for WEF,UN,and big business. So all the Govts around the world got together did they? Hmmmm…….. we think not. " I'd be amazed if they did considering they're at loggerheads the rest of the time | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again. Who are “they” Government acting for WEF,UN,and big business. So all the Govts around the world got together did they? Hmmmm…….. we think not. " Thing is. Many corporations now are bugger and more powerful than governments... Pharma, tech and many made significant gains and changes as an outcome. The move away from cash and work environments being just 2 of them. The move to online activities which can be controlled and monetised being another. | |||
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"I don't care. We were brainwashed and engineered into compliance before and I'm never going to do that again. They can come up with whatever new lurgy they want. I'm not masking, disinfecting my shopping, isolating, keeping 6 feet away, using sanitiser 50 times a day. I wish I knew then what I know now. It's the greatest con job ever to fool the people of the planet. They want us to be cajoled into fear and obedience. They are not going to get away with it again. Who are “they” Government acting for WEF,UN,and big business. So all the Govts around the world got together did they? Hmmmm…….. we think not. Thing is. Many corporations now are bugger and more powerful than governments... Pharma, tech and many made significant gains and changes as an outcome. The move away from cash and work environments being just 2 of them. The move to online activities which can be controlled and monetised being another. " You are possibly look how much power Elon musk wields in this country, and other countries, he should have little to do with. The move to cashless society is mainly to hit criminals and the black market. Of course taxation is a driver too, was probably the same when society moved from bartering to cash I long time ago. All business wants to monetize everything they always have. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars." That makes more sense. The " fighting age" is determined by which ever government is doing the call up. I've seen a number of Ukrainian vehicles, and they seem to be on the more expensive side. | |||
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"Same like the Ukrainian war... Another bullshit. They had a war from maidan incident. Hows that we see so many Ukrainians over here in expensive cars driven by a male in army recruitment age?! How can you tell the nationality of people in cars? A good guess is Ukrainian number plate and flag. I just did a quick search. It seems that there are more women and children than men and around 56% of all the men are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of these will be driving expensive cars with Ukrainian plates. Makes no sense re the numbers you posted. In what way? The whole thing is jumbled up, and doesn’t really relate correctly. Ok. I probably didn't explain it clearly. I quickly looked at statistics. Of the total number of Ukrainian refugees, most are women and children. Of the total number of male Ukrainian refugees, around 56% are between 18 and 64. I don't know how many of that 56% are of fighting age or how many drive expensive cars. You didn't punctuate it as well no, but it still made sense. However I see many people purposely being obtuse if they don't agree. And it's not just fab or it's forums. That's the real pandemic though that's hurting everyone, not a respiratory virus, but the ability to be tolerant and understanding is rapidly declining. " I wasn't being obtuse, it was as I said it. The author was good enough to clarify. | |||
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