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"5 years since it started but when did it end ?" Is it back to being called the flu now ? | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? " No. It will never be the flu, as it's a completely different type of virus and very different effects. 5 years and people can still learn much. Thank goodness that experts have continued to learn much about it. | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? No. It will never be the flu, as it's a completely different type of virus and very different effects. 5 years and people can still learn much. Thank goodness that experts have continued to learn much about it. " It's also a helpful tool to assess people on here.  | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? No. It will never be the flu, as it's a completely different type of virus and very different effects. 5 years and people can still learn much. Thank goodness that experts have continued to learn much about it. It's also a helpful tool to assess people on here. "Oh I agree... | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol." Neither of us caught / got it, despite one of us being a Respiratory Nurse and the other being highly vulnerable. Suspect taking measures to protect ourselves helped. | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol." I don't believe I've ever had it. The intelligent steps to mitigate the effects of something that's potentially going to be more harmful, if you don't take them, is the smart thing to do, whatever the situation. I'd hope most sane people would seek to mitigate harm, for both themselves and others. | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol. I don't believe I've ever had it. The intelligent steps to mitigate the effects of something that's potentially going to be more harmful, if you don't take them, is the smart thing to do, whatever the situation. I'd hope most sane people would seek to mitigate harm, for both themselves and others. " Like others, I don't believe I've had it. I've had one infection with symptoms, since March 2020. It tested negative for Covid. | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ?" When the media got bored with it. | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol." Everybody? We didn't get it in our house, pretty lucky for us I suppose | |||
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"We should be given a bank holiday to celebrate." If you have a booster you can have one | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol." I didn't | |||
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"O yeah the plandemic .. nearly forgot about the deadly shots and sheeple clapping like seals for the NHS." Too true.I certainly didn't have shots or clap for the murderers. | |||
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"Was all bullshit, it was the flu rebranded. " Read further up. It's not a flu virus  | |||
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"Was all bullshit, it was the flu rebranded. " It didn't fit in the pattern of the flu. How many people suffer from the flu in the summer? Hardly any. why did they with COVID? Because it's transmission rate was so high. why was it so high? Because it wasn't "flu rebranded" 
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? When the media got bored with it." or enough people have developed immunity...That's kind of what happens with a virus. | |||
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"O yeah the plandemic .. nearly forgot about the deadly shots and sheeple clapping like seals for the NHS. Too true.I certainly didn't have shots or clap for the murderers." You appear to be calling NHS workers murderers? | |||
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"O yeah the plandemic .. nearly forgot about the deadly shots and sheeple clapping like seals for the NHS. Too true.I certainly didn't have shots or clap for the murderers. You appear to be calling NHS workers murderers? " Pathetic, isn't it! | |||
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"You might want to look a little deeper into excess deaths since, and the measures used to stop the use of safe drugs for treatment! There are massive cover ups and media blackouts with cv19! " Fancy pointing us to any credible links? & Don't say "Do your own research", that's so 2022 | |||
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"You might want to look a little deeper into excess deaths since, and the measures used to stop the use of safe drugs for treatment! There are massive cover ups and media blackouts with cv19! " Someone else who claims to have secret insider information that only certain people can find the super secret highly classified information hidden by the governments of the world on YouTube. | |||
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"Am I alone in looking back at that period and thinking what the actual fuck were we thinking? With some of the measures being enforced... Not being able to drive too far? Not being allowed to sit on a park bench? Eat out to help out?not being to have proper funeral services.. Some things that we did were a genuine stain on our country and straight from the department of healing crystals. And sadly my dear old mum still got it bless her. " You are not alone, it was total madness looking back. | |||
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"Am I alone in looking back at that period and thinking what the actual fuck were we thinking? With some of the measures being enforced... Not being able to drive too far? Not being allowed to sit on a park bench? Eat out to help out?not being to have proper funeral services.. Some things that we did were a genuine stain on our country and straight from the department of healing crystals. And sadly my dear old mum still got it bless her. " The fact of the matter is our arrogance as a society we got well and truly caught with our pants down and the people we trusted to be ready for such things pretty much made it up as they went along, assuming that they could cope with it. Personally I think they knew so little about the virus at the beginning all they could really do is plan for the worst and hope for the best, whilst far too many died or now have long term issues I think things could have been far far worse. Was some of the stuff unnecessary? Yeah probably,but I'm sure lots of it was completely necessary. But like I said our arrogance today dictates we don't like being told what to do now,we bitch and throw our toy's out of the pram end up putting more faith in some internet nutcase on a channel somewhere then actual scientists with the facts. Combined with a government more interest in lining their own pockets and their friends pockets it was a perfect storm for a complete fiasco. | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? " It never actually was. People lost loved one. Have some respect for others. | |||
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"https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000282 Well ivermectin is one of the safest drugs to exist, has been given out over 4 billion times and has less adverse effects than ibuprofen, yet we can’t get it over the counter here and you can look for yourself the propaganda surrounding that! Former MP Andrew Bridgen has taken loads of evidence to the house of parliament to be mostly ignored and silenced! Money and propaganda run media and politics while we are the pawns, the exact same reason we now have some of the most expensive energy in the world!" You trot that out as if taking a veterinary medicine, for infestations, must be a good thing. And yet, following the widespread YouTube posts etc about dosing yourself, a poison response unit was overwhelmed by public catastrophes. Summarising one of their reports, six of the 21 persons were hospitalized for toxic effects from ivermectin use. People have died from its use. Not all chemicals and medicines are controlled because it's a better earner for Bigpharma not to have worming chemicals on the market. It's not the best use of intensive care unit resources, especially when there may be overload, due to potentially fatal illnesses. Far better not to have people poisoning themselves with fairytale medicines that put them into intensive care. | |||
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"https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000282 Well ivermectin is one of the safest drugs to exist, has been given out over 4 billion times and has less adverse effects than ibuprofen, yet we can’t get it over the counter here and you can look for yourself the propaganda surrounding that! Former MP Andrew Bridgen has taken loads of evidence to the house of parliament to be mostly ignored and silenced! Money and propaganda run media and politics while we are the pawns, the exact same reason we now have some of the most expensive energy in the world!" Wonder drug for humans with: Onchocerciasis, Strongyloidiasis, Ascariasis, cutaneous larva migrans, filariases, Gnathostomiasis and Trichuriasis, as well as for oral treatment of ectoparasitic infections, such as Pediculosis (lice infestation) and scabies (mite infestation)... But covid 19 is a pathogen not a parasite. | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? It never actually was. People lost loved one. Have some respect for others." My friend died because of the jab not the covid so respect works both ways ! | |||
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"Just google it’s effects on viruses I’m more on about the propaganda surrounding around it at the time, when over 4 billion doses had been given to humans with very few adverse effects. Also there are currently oncologists using along side with fluvoxamine to treat cancer which isn’t a parasite with amazing results according to certain sources, but that’s hearsay! " I think you'll find the SSRI is being researched in this area. | |||
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"Just google it’s effects on viruses I’m more on about the propaganda surrounding around it at the time, when over 4 billion doses had been given to humans with very few adverse effects. " The doses, actually 3.7 billion, are those for the parasites, approval in 1987, and yes, well tolerated. | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? No. It will never be the flu, as it's a completely different type of virus and very different effects. 5 years and people can still learn much. Thank goodness that experts have continued to learn much about it. " People use words interchangeably and the meaning of words change. The world "Flu" has almost become a general way to describe a set of symptoms not just a specific infection such as influenza. Just look at how hoover became a generic word for a vacuum cleaner. | |||
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"https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000282 Well ivermectin is one of the safest drugs to exist, has been given out over 4 billion times and has less adverse effects than ibuprofen, yet we can’t get it over the counter here and you can look for yourself the propaganda surrounding that! Former MP Andrew Bridgen has taken loads of evidence to the house of parliament to be mostly ignored and silenced! Money and propaganda run media and politics while we are the pawns, the exact same reason we now have some of the most expensive energy in the world! You trot that out as if taking a veterinary medicine, for infestations, must be a good thing. And yet, following the widespread YouTube posts etc about dosing yourself, a poison response unit was overwhelmed by public catastrophes. Summarising one of their reports, six of the 21 persons were hospitalized for toxic effects from ivermectin use. People have died from its use. Not all chemicals and medicines are controlled because it's a better earner for Bigpharma not to have worming chemicals on the market. It's not the best use of intensive care unit resources, especially when there may be overload, due to potentially fatal illnesses. Far better not to have people poisoning themselves with fairytale medicines that put them into intensive care." Ivermectin is an approved drug for human use and is incredibly safe. Stop spreading miss information.... If you want to argue it's effectiveness at fighting COVID-19 fair enough, but to try and insinuate its just a veterian drug and its unsafe is totally unacceptable. | |||
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"5 years since it started but when did it end ? Is it back to being called the flu now ? No. It will never be the flu, as it's a completely different type of virus and very different effects. 5 years and people can still learn much. Thank goodness that experts have continued to learn much about it. People use words interchangeably and the meaning of words change. The world "Flu" has almost become a general way to describe a set of symptoms not just a specific infection such as influenza. Just look at how hoover became a generic word for a vacuum cleaner." Poor analogy using brands vs generics when comparing viruses. And people often use words incorrectly. Still, the influenza viruses do not include covid. Colds do not include flu viruses. | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket." Viruses don't exist? | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket." 
Viruses were about before civilisation, let alone pharmaceuticals.
Btw if viruses were the product of big pharma, don't you think that every virus would have some sort of treatment?
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket.
Viruses were about before civilisation, let alone pharmaceuticals.
Btw if viruses were the product of big pharma, don't you think that every virus would have some sort of treatment?
Think logically!"Isuspect Toby might be chumming the waters | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket.
Viruses were about before civilisation, let alone pharmaceuticals.
Btw if viruses were the product of big pharma, don't you think that every virus would have some sort of treatment?
Think logically!
Isuspect Toby might be chumming the waters"And stooopid me took the bait lol | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket." so what about the ones that killed our distant ancestors before they were around.. or other lifeforms before humans were around.... Viruses are older than humans | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket." Obviously you are just trying to get a bite. However what actually scares me is people really believe this kind of shit! | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket." How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? | |||
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"Me and Molly never got it (as far as we know) despite people living in our house having it twice. Come on, it was basically flu. Simple as that, but we all went off our heads. I look back now at all the ridiculous things we did like sanitising our shopping when we got it home, distancing, and having fucking traffic lights to get into Tesco FFS, and realise we were all played. " it wasn't ridiculous though and covid wasn't basically just flu. Id happily have some of those measures back now... as it helped stop flu and other viruses as well as helping to stop the spread of covid. I will still wear a mask if I'm feeling unwell and have to go somewhere public... Im shocked how few places still have hand sanitizer available now... Covid was a horrible illness and we lost so many... hopefully we can learn from it. | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap?" Polar ice caps don't exist either | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? Polar ice caps don't exist either" Well not for much longer... | |||
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"We still ask guys to do a hone test the day before we meet. In a room with so many men all in close contact it seems sensible. It’s not gone away - the vaccines have mitigated its effects is all. If guys refuse then no meet. Simple really -for us it’s all about maximising safety for all " Ask them if they have any respiratory symptoms. | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? Polar ice caps don't exist either" Nor polar bears. They were made up by Fox's glacier mints. | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? Polar ice caps don't exist either Nor polar bears. They were made up by Fox's glacier mints." You'll be telling me next that Basil Brush isn't a real talking fox 😱 | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? Polar ice caps don't exist either Nor polar bears. They were made up by Fox's glacier mints. You'll be telling me next that Basil Brush isn't a real talking fox 😱" I wouldn't say that but I would say he loves anal, permanently (inser basil's laugh her) | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? Polar ice caps don't exist either Nor polar bears. They were made up by Fox's glacier mints. You'll be telling me next that Basil Brush isn't a real talking fox 😱 I wouldn't say that but I would say he loves anal, permanently (inser basil's laugh her) "Boom boom! | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. How did big pharma get the 30,000 year old viruses into the polar ice cap? Polar ice caps don't exist either Nor polar bears. They were made up by Fox's glacier mints. You'll be telling me next that Basil Brush isn't a real talking fox 😱 I wouldn't say that but I would say he loves anal, permanently (inser basil's laugh her)
Boom boom!"Bum bum 
Who in their right mind could survive with an arm up their butt, permanently? | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. so what about the ones that killed our distant ancestors before they were around.. or other lifeforms before humans were around.... Viruses are older than humans " Big Pharma killed my distant ancestors ? | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket. so what about the ones that killed our distant ancestors before they were around.. or other lifeforms before humans were around.... Viruses are older than humans Big Pharma killed my distant ancestors ? " Big Pharma killed the dinosaurs | |||
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"About time this forum topic got shut ? 😉" It's only just got to the start of the 5th anniversary, hence the subject and commemorations today, at the 2 memorial sites etc. | |||
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"Me and Molly never got it (as far as we know) despite people living in our house having it twice. Come on, it was basically flu. Simple as that, but we all went off our heads. I look back now at all the ridiculous things we did like sanitising our shopping when we got it home, distancing, and having fucking traffic lights to get into Tesco FFS, and realise we were all played. " It's wasn't just flu I nearly died from it and find comments like this insulting. And please tell me how did we all get "played" what benefit to anyone in power for everyone having to queue at the supermarket? It's purpose was to limit the amount of people in close contact at one time coz guess what this is how viruses spread! Five years on and people are more selfish than ever, everything is about themselves. This country is more divided than at any point in the last 100years . And the fault lies squarely with the internet and it's ability to spread lies. So really the biggest pandemic in history and is probably dangerous than any natural virus is the internet! | |||
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"Interesting how much division and anger it still stirs in people. ‘The vanity of small differences’ appears to have been magnified even when it’s about people’s opinions and decisions on how they keep themselves safe and protect family/friends. " It's a good point. What we continue to see is "winter nhs crisis" and people. Moaning about the nhs. And yet even rudimentary hygiene measures seem beyond an increasing number of people. The divisions can't be doubted but what would be wonderful to see is some healing measures that we would all reap rewards from. We are a dirty country now in so many ways. Would be great to see some steps to improve that situation so that next time things don't spread quite so far and wide and fast. People seem to get really angry about being asked to follow some basic measures. | |||
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"Me and Molly never got it (as far as we know) despite people living in our house having it twice. Come on, it was basically flu. Simple as that, but we all went off our heads. I look back now at all the ridiculous things we did like sanitising our shopping when we got it home, distancing, and having fucking traffic lights to get into Tesco FFS, and realise we were all played. It's wasn't just flu I nearly died from it and find comments like this insulting. And please tell me how did we all get "played" what benefit to anyone in power for everyone having to queue at the supermarket? It's purpose was to limit the amount of people in close contact at one time coz guess what this is how viruses spread! Five years on and people are more selfish than ever, everything is about themselves. This country is more divided than at any point in the last 100years . And the fault lies squarely with the internet and it's ability to spread lies. So really the biggest pandemic in history and is probably dangerous than any natural virus is the internet!" I see the main cause of the division is lies, caused by the main stream media, everything they said and done was a contradiction, at one point you were racist to question weather the virus came from a lab. Now it’s plainly obvious and out in the open that it was developed in a lab payed for by the us tax payer by the nih, for gain of function research, also it created the biggest wealth transfer in human history! There are numerous reasons that trust has fallen, the internet shone a light on the lies and also perpetuated more! I hope we can heal but it has to come through honesty! | |||
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"Me and Molly never got it (as far as we know) despite people living in our house having it twice. Come on, it was basically flu. Simple as that, but we all went off our heads. I look back now at all the ridiculous things we did like sanitising our shopping when we got it home, distancing, and having fucking traffic lights to get into Tesco FFS, and realise we were all played. It's wasn't just flu I nearly died from it and find comments like this insulting. And please tell me how did we all get "played" what benefit to anyone in power for everyone having to queue at the supermarket? It's purpose was to limit the amount of people in close contact at one time coz guess what this is how viruses spread! Five years on and people are more selfish than ever, everything is about themselves. This country is more divided than at any point in the last 100years . And the fault lies squarely with the internet and it's ability to spread lies. So really the biggest pandemic in history and is probably dangerous than any natural virus is the internet! I see the main cause of the division is lies, caused by the main stream media, everything they said and done was a contradiction, at one point you were racist to question weather the virus came from a lab. Now it’s plainly obvious and out in the open that it was developed in a lab payed for by the us tax payer by the nih, for gain of function research, also it created the biggest wealth transfer in human history! There are numerous reasons that trust has fallen, the internet shone a light on the lies and also perpetuated more! I hope we can heal but it has to come through honesty! " Speculative allegations, from an alternative mainstream media | |||
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"Me and Molly never got it (as far as we know) despite people living in our house having it twice. Come on, it was basically flu. Simple as that, but we all went off our heads. I look back now at all the ridiculous things we did like sanitising our shopping when we got it home, distancing, and having fucking traffic lights to get into Tesco FFS, and realise we were all played. It's wasn't just flu I nearly died from it and find comments like this insulting. And please tell me how did we all get "played" what benefit to anyone in power for everyone having to queue at the supermarket? It's purpose was to limit the amount of people in close contact at one time coz guess what this is how viruses spread! Five years on and people are more selfish than ever, everything is about themselves. This country is more divided than at any point in the last 100years . And the fault lies squarely with the internet and it's ability to spread lies. So really the biggest pandemic in history and is probably dangerous than any natural virus is the internet! I see the main cause of the division is lies, caused by the main stream media, everything they said and done was a contradiction, at one point you were racist to question weather the virus came from a lab. Now it’s plainly obvious and out in the open that it was developed in a lab payed for by the us tax payer by the nih, for gain of function research, also it created the biggest wealth transfer in human history! There are numerous reasons that trust has fallen, the internet shone a light on the lies and also perpetuated more! I hope we can heal but it has to come through honesty! " I imagine everyone here is a minion. Not the cute yellow creatures but the plebs/proletariat/great unwashed/electorate. We cannot fight the rulers/owners/money bigwigs/cunting twats, so we have to play their game to survive. To survive threats of war, war, famine, cost of living crisis, pandemic, each other. The each other bit we can control more than the others, by being kind, by thinking of what we can do not to make others suffer. That can mean hygiene, masks, 2metres... it's not a fucking lot! | |||
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"Humanity never will learn ... especially in the age of the internet,social media etc ...ultimately the majority populus are now sheep,and luckily for the politicians are getting more and more like lemmings ... Basically we're fucked ! " Somehow, you are one of the few enlightened and intelligent ones it seems. Regardless of any knowledge or scientific training no doubt. At least it makes sense in your own mind anyway. | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda." The infection control team in each trust updates the policy as and when for mask wearing. | |||
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"Was all bullshit, it was the flu rebranded. It didn't fit in the pattern of the flu. How many people suffer from the flu in the summer? Hardly any. why did they with COVID? Because it's transmission rate was so high. why was it so high? Because it wasn't "flu rebranded"
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda." Speedy recovery, | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda." It's a pity, as norovirus infection levels had risen recently, so you deserved to have been better protected. Hope you feel better and recover well | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda. It's a pity, as norovirus infection levels had risen recently, so you deserved to have been better protected. Hope you feel better and recover well " Sorry, but I don't see the connection. Unless a covid test protects someone from the norovirus  . | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda." How is your heart? ❤️ | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda. It's a pity, as norovirus infection levels had risen recently, so you deserved to have been better protected. Hope you feel better and recover well Sorry, but I don't see the connection. Unless a covid test protects someone from the norovirus ."If there has been greater levels of mask use, for example. The Covid test would only pick up on a Covid infection but better hygiene, distancing, mask use etc could prevent more infection types. | |||
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"Are we all feeling gullible enough for another one!!?" Gullible or not, highly infectious diseases can harm | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda. It's a pity, as norovirus infection levels had risen recently, so you deserved to have been better protected. Hope you feel better and recover well Sorry, but I don't see the connection. Unless a covid test protects someone from the norovirus .
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol." I didn’t queue at shops, I went in late at night when there was no queue. I wasn’t ‘made’ to have a jab, I chose to take up the offer of one. I didn’t stop going to work, not for a single day. And I haven’t caught Covid. So speak for yourself not everyone else.  | |||
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"viruses do not exist, they are a big pharma money racket." What about Chickenpox? Measles? smallpox?, even HIV has the word virus in it. Do these not exist? | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol. I didn’t queue at shops, I went in late at night when there was no queue. I wasn’t ‘made’ to have a jab, I chose to take up the offer of one. I didn’t stop going to work, not for a single day. And I haven’t caught Covid. So speak for yourself not everyone else. "
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol. I didn’t queue at shops, I went in late at night when there was no queue. I wasn’t ‘made’ to have a jab, I chose to take up the offer of one. I didn’t stop going to work, not for a single day. And I haven’t caught Covid. So speak for yourself not everyone else.
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda." Any naughty nurses about, like in carry on matron? ………just thought I’d lighten the mood | |||
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"I'm currently in a hospital bed and have been told that I have tested as covid positive. This was after being in totally unchecked wards since my unplanned admission from the cardiac clinic which I came to as a day patient last Tuesday. I got kept in and was in at least two busy medical wards before anyone thought of testing me late on Thursday. Until I then got moved to a private room, mask wearing wasn't on the agenda. It's a pity, as norovirus infection levels had risen recently, so you deserved to have been better protected. Hope you feel better and recover well Sorry, but I don't see the connection. Unless a covid test protects someone from the norovirus .
If there has been greater levels of mask use, for example. The Covid test would only pick up on a Covid infection but better hygiene, distancing, mask use etc could prevent more infection types.
So you're unhappy with the way the infection control team instructs trusts?"No, I've the greatest respect and admiration for our NHS. It's tragic that so much of it has continued to be under-resourced for so long. It's especially difficult now that we've had months of high hospitalisation levels, fuelled partly by infections. The public has a part to play in containment and reduction in infection levels, for example by following some of the well-reaearched effective measures, such as mask wearing. I've seen people refusing to wear them in hospitals this winter, when I visited for an elderly relative who was admitted. Ultimately, the public are the key contributor to weakening the effectiveness of health service measures. | |||
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol. I didn’t queue at shops, I went in late at night when there was no queue. I wasn’t ‘made’ to have a jab, I chose to take up the offer of one. I didn’t stop going to work, not for a single day. And I haven’t caught Covid. So speak for yourself not everyone else.
And I didn't catch it until infection control stated no need for masks
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"closed the country down , made us wear masks , have jabs , 1 metre distances , queue to shop , dont go to work , etc etc etc , but everybody still caught/got it lol. I didn’t queue at shops, I went in late at night when there was no queue. I wasn’t ‘made’ to have a jab, I chose to take up the offer of one. I didn’t stop going to work, not for a single day. And I haven’t caught Covid. So speak for yourself not everyone else.
And I didn't catch it until infection control stated no need for masks
I bet those decisions were "all based on scientific fact"
Certainly not from watching you tube. It was the "must learn to live with it" strategy. In other words, only PPE up when you know the patient has an infection."Britain never really locked down, we became serial groups, moved from one bubble to another, taking infections with us. While there was an attempt to act on scientific grounds the government flapped in the breeze of public comment, opening restaurants, closing them, allowing Christmas then locking down. The one success was the injections. | |||
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" to all the nhs staff"yes what would we have done without the dancing videos | |||
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"Hello all i was a cuckold and a key worker my now x wife and her boyfriend stayed at home and fucked I never caught covid 19 " Pretty pointless post. | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos "It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! "that’s your opinion I have mine | |||
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"And the corporate junkies are poised waiting for the next ridiculous woke plandemic ... Many including me won't comply. Lockdown was utterly ridiculous never mind that so called vaccine. What a nonsense. " Tell that to the folk who were ventilated or died | |||
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" Tell that to the folk who were ventilated or died" How do we tell the ones that died ? | |||
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"And the corporate junkies are poised waiting for the next ridiculous woke plandemic ... Many including me won't comply. Lockdown was utterly ridiculous never mind that so called vaccine. What a nonsense. " A very responsible and educated post can I remind you about the Spanish flu outbreak that caused between 25/39 million deaths possibly more. Modern medical practices and hygiene plus lockdown protocols prevented COVID from being a disaster of this scale, so a couple of questions. Why is that a bad thing? Also and I've been asking this for five years and never had a decent response. What would the governments of the world stand to gain by lockdowns and people following hygiene and safety practices?? Please educate me. | |||
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"5 years on - country almost broke . Food ridiculous price now , rents , everything’s increased , wages have fallen behind … I believe it was real enough , didn’t really affect my life , worked from home , didn’t miss the pub , only thing it affected was my kids missing out on a school and how to socialize with other kids . Could have been a lot worse in my opinion " You're not wrong - it could have been worse. It could also have been handled better. However, we need to await results of the multi-focused inquiry. | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! that’s your opinion I have mine "So you thought dancing was wrong? Afraid they did that during the time they were paid? Do you realise how much frontline staff give (and disgustingly are expected to give) to the nhs? In that I mean all the work they (we) do that is not financially reimbursed? Do you want a list? | |||
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"And the corporate junkies are poised waiting for the next ridiculous woke plandemic ... Many including me won't comply. Lockdown was utterly ridiculous never mind that so called vaccine. What a nonsense. " It's a shame "planned" viruses cannot only infect the selfish in our society  | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! that’s your opinion I have mine
So you thought dancing was wrong? Afraid they did that during the time they were paid?
Do you realise how much frontline staff give (and disgustingly are expected to give) to the nhs? In that I mean all the work they (we) do that is not financially reimbursed? Do you want a list?"I know they danced when being payed that’s what makes it worse & why choose that job if it’s to much trouble for any of you no one makes you stay there | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! that’s your opinion I have mine
So you thought dancing was wrong? Afraid they did that during the time they were paid?
Do you realise how much frontline staff give (and disgustingly are expected to give) to the nhs? In that I mean all the work they (we) do that is not financially reimbursed? Do you want a list? I know they danced when being payed that’s what makes it worse & why choose that job if it’s to much trouble for any of you no one makes you stay there"oh give over.. they danced for morale... do you have any idea how hard it was during covid times... you clearly dont have a clue what makes nurses or doctors do their jobs. So what if they did some stuff to brighten up the world a little... Cali | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! that’s your opinion I have mine
So you thought dancing was wrong? Afraid they did that during the time they were paid?
Do you realise how much frontline staff give (and disgustingly are expected to give) to the nhs? In that I mean all the work they (we) do that is not financially reimbursed? Do you want a list? I know they danced when being payed that’s what makes it worse & why choose that job if it’s to much trouble for any of you no one makes you stay there"You know them all, what hours they worked, how much/little time off they managed etc?  | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! that’s your opinion I have mine
So you thought dancing was wrong? Afraid they did that during the time they were paid?
Do you realise how much frontline staff give (and disgustingly are expected to give) to the nhs? In that I mean all the work they (we) do that is not financially reimbursed? Do you want a list?
I know they danced when being payed that’s what makes it worse & why choose that job if it’s to much trouble for any of you no one makes you stay there"No you don't know it was during their contracted time. It might have been during their lunch break, or after they'd finished! Have some empathy for once! | |||
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"5 years on - country almost broke . Food ridiculous price now , rents , everything’s increased , wages have fallen behind … I believe it was real enough , didn’t really affect my life , worked from home , didn’t miss the pub , only thing it affected was my kids missing out on a school and how to socialize with other kids . Could have been a lot worse in my opinion You're not wrong - it could have been worse. It could also have been handled better. However, we need to await results of the multi-focused inquiry." Absolutely agree!!! It can't come soon enough. An inquiry funded by the same said people who created the problem along with the nonsensical rules will put this whole argument to bed. I can't wait to see what they find | |||
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"I guess the people with other illnesses. Children left without a mother because her breast cancer was not treated, maybe are inclined to call them murderers. This little rainbow will make all better though "Are you talking about the dancing? I'm not referring to your non sequitur rainbow . | |||
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"I guess the people with other illnesses. Children left without a mother because her breast cancer was not treated, maybe are inclined to call them murderers. This little rainbow will make all better though "Who is calling who a murderer? A little lost here. | |||
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"I guess the people with other illnesses. Children left without a mother because her breast cancer was not treated, maybe are inclined to call them murderers. This little rainbow will make all better though "Are you calling all NHS staff murders? | |||
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" to all the nhs staff yes what would we have done without the dancing videos
It was so good that some had some light relief, whilst so many of them were tragically exposed and harmed, for our benefit. They cared for us and many of them lost their lives and will also hold the trauma of seeing so many of the public struggle and die, as our systems barely managed. So grateful that some danced! that’s your opinion I have mine "Nice ass though, you should try dancing  | |||
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"5 years on - country almost broke . Food ridiculous price now , rents , everything’s increased , wages have fallen behind … I believe it was real enough , didn’t really affect my life , worked from home , didn’t miss the pub , only thing it affected was my kids missing out on a school and how to socialize with other kids . Could have been a lot worse in my opinion You're not wrong - it could have been worse. It could also have been handled better. However, we need to await results of the multi-focused inquiry. Absolutely agree!!! It can't come soon enough. An inquiry funded by the same said people who created the problem along with the nonsensical rules will put this whole argument to bed. I can't wait to see what they find "They will find that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck....its a duck and not a giraffe. | |||
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"Are ppl still going on about this?!" Well you still commented..... so guess so. | |||
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"Are ppl still going on about this?!" No no they aren't | |||
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"Are ppl still going on about this?!" Other than you? | |||
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"It was all a hoax! A big old fraud!" Part of the big reset | |||
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"It was all a hoax! A big old fraud!" They just had millions of actors, pretending to be sick and then they died? | |||
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"It was all a hoax! A big old fraud!" you mean my friends and family that died only pretended.... | |||
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"It was all a hoax! A big old fraud! you mean my friends and family that died only pretended.... "They most likely died with Covid, not of Covid. My condolences for your losses | |||
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"It was all a hoax! A big old fraud! you mean my friends and family that died only pretended....
They most likely died with Covid, not of Covid.
My condolences for your losses "Is that in your trained medical opinion? Once again the ignorance regards the effort COVID had/has on the system by some people is staggering. It's been some time but let me try to explain it in a way you might understand. When someone is shot the bullet itself isn't the cause of death it's the catastrophic effect it has on the body. Think of COVID as a bullet. COVID isn't the thing that actually kills them but it starts a cascade of effect's that ultimately and sadly cause death. So whilst the actual cause of death maybe respiratory failure or heart failure..... It only happened BECAUSE of covid. The lack of respect and sympathy for people who died because of COVID is staggering, those people never chose to die, they never asked for COVID and the effort on family and friends is every bit as devastating as any other cause of death. So perhaps you come out with flippant remarks based on conspiracy theories and mumbo jumbo you could show some respect for people who actually lost loved ones and those people who's lives has been changed forever due to the devastating effects it's had on them. If you believe it's a hoax or not people died. FACT | |||
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"I think covid deniers at best lack empathy My mum died three years ago. She didn't have covid but had come into contact with it on a ward. During the last ten days of her life we were only allowed limited visiting, on the day she died my dad, my brother and I were allowed to be with her but we had to wear protective gear including masks and plastic aprons. The nurses told us to leave the gloves off because in the words of one of them " I'd want to hold my mum's hand". I doubt these very compassionate people were doing this to continue a hoax or a scam, I can't imagine they'd all got together and hatched a plan to keep relatives away from sick and dying family. If nothing like this happened to you or anyone you know you should be happy, if you think the people it did happen to were tricked or are lying to you, you should have a think about what you're implying. " 👏🏼 | |||
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"The rules didn't make sense, a nurse or carer could come out of Asda and go to work and hold your moms hand. But the family couldn't, just make it make sense. Hopefully the powers that be have learned from it all, but wont hold my breath. " It's about the limitation of risk. The fewer people that you come into contact with the lower the risk. That makes sense to me. | |||
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"The rules didn't make sense, a nurse or carer could come out of Asda and go to work and hold your moms hand. But the family couldn't, just make it make sense. Hopefully the powers that be have learned from it all, but wont hold my breath. " It's not just "the powers that be" that should learn... Its us, the great unwashed who will be better for learning too. | |||
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"COVID was and is still real. Smallpox was wipped out by enforced vaccination, is it time to do it again? " Great idea, round up all the unvaxed and forcibly inject them , I'm sure it will end well . You could even jail everyone indefinitely until they complied. | |||
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"I worked every day of it so no change for me" So did I. I'm a Respiratory Nurse and the sights I saw still haunt me. | |||
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"I worked every day of it so no change for me So did I. I'm a Respiratory Nurse and the sights I saw still haunt me. " You could say I was lucky I missed the first two waves. Although a strange type of luck having something 30 times the fatality rate 🤯😛 | |||
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"I worked every day of it so no change for me So did I. I'm a Respiratory Nurse and the sights I saw still haunt me. You could say I was lucky I missed the first two waves. Although a strange type of luck having something 30 times the fatality rate 🤯😛" Of covid. | |||
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"COVID was and is still real. Smallpox was wipped out by enforced vaccination, is it time to do it again? " No. I think vaccination is a good thing but not enforced. | |||
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"COVID was and is still real. Smallpox was wipped out by enforced vaccination, is it time to do it again? " How was it enforced? And to whom? | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive "Both vaccinated and still alive too | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive
Both vaccinated and still alive too "Same outcomes, one took an experimental vaccine the other didn't. | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive
Both vaccinated and still alive too
Same outcomes, one took an experimental vaccine the other didn't."One of you a nurse also? If no, no comparison! | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive
Both vaccinated and still alive too
Same outcomes, one took an experimental vaccine the other didn't.
One of you a nurse also?
If no, no comparison!"Neither of us are medical professionals, we simply made our own decision not to take any vaccine. 5 years on were fine and we got through the pandemic unscathed. All the best to anyone that took the vaccine/s. | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive "And that's great for you. I can't remember what the numbers were but basically at your age the chances of getting symptoms or worse death were and probably still are very slim indeed, and the reduction from having a vaccine... I'm not sure it is significant. Actually just went to gov stats here... https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland And the mortality rate for your age group with and without vaccination are compared. Very interesting to see. | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive
And that's great for you. I can't remember what the numbers were but basically at your age the chances of getting symptoms or worse death were and probably still are very slim indeed, and the reduction from having a vaccine... I'm not sure it is significant. Actually just went to gov stats here... https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
And the mortality rate for your age group with and without vaccination are compared. Very interesting to see. "Every year the elderly die in larger numbers during winter due to flu and cold outbreaks hence the signs in all nursing homes for decades asking you not to enter if you have cold or flu symptoms. | |||
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive
And that's great for you. I can't remember what the numbers were but basically at your age the chances of getting symptoms or worse death were and probably still are very slim indeed, and the reduction from having a vaccine... I'm not sure it is significant. Actually just went to gov stats here... https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
And the mortality rate for your age group with and without vaccination are compared. Very interesting to see.
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"Still unvacinnated and still alive
And that's great for you. I can't remember what the numbers were but basically at your age the chances of getting symptoms or worse death were and probably still are very slim indeed, and the reduction from having a vaccine... I'm not sure it is significant. Actually just went to gov stats here... https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
And the mortality rate for your age group with and without vaccination are compared. Very interesting to see.
Every year the elderly die in larger numbers during winter due to flu and cold outbreaks hence the signs in all nursing homes for decades asking you not to enter if you have cold or flu symptoms.
Common sense right? "Common sense is usually the best course of action. | |||
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