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By *anjo72 OP Man 11 weeks ago

Mirfield

In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else.

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By (user no longer on site) 11 weeks ago

So never mind decades of science then?

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By *iddick27Man 11 weeks ago

Cheshire

Soyence

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By *ools and the brainCouple 11 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

What are you going on about?

Is this just trolling or do you genuinely believe this nonsense??

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By *cottish guy 555Man 11 weeks ago

London

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

Shane about all those vaccines you had as a kid.

A real waste of time.

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By *ellhungvweMan 11 weeks ago

Cheltenham

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else.

What are you going on about?

Is this just trolling or do you genuinely believe this nonsense??"

He genuinely believes this nonsense.

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By *isterowlMan 11 weeks ago

Warwickshire

Helping us all keep our block lists up to date, clearly.

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By *ondiego85Man 11 weeks ago

nottingham

This forum is always a good place to improve my block list and to make me see the depths of human stupidity

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By *ogandher1962Couple 11 weeks ago

Reading

"This forum is always a good place to improve my block list and to make me see the depths of human stupidity

Yep, us too

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By *rowley616Man 11 weeks ago

Scarborough

Woke isn't real. It is part of a political discourse designed to spark an emotional response from morons on the extreme left and the right of the spectrum. Most rational people agree sensible border controls are necessary without demonising people. Most normal people care about how their children are going to live in a future where Billionaires tricked idiots to fight trans people instead of demanding some sense of equality. Vurtue signalling your own group with words designed only to offend morons in your own made up war doesn't really change the fact that the rest of us are sick of your shit. Far right or far left your all tards to me.

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By *heel markMan 11 weeks ago

beside the sea

"This forum is always a good place to improve my block list and to make me see the depths of human stupidity

Certainly is Dr Diego. Almost as stupid as the people who proclaim they wont sleep with anyone who isn't vaxxed 🤣

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By *ondiego85Man 11 weeks ago

nottingham

"This forum is always a good place to improve my block list and to make me see the depths of human stupidity

Certainly is Dr Diego. Almost as stupid as the people who proclaim they wont sleep with anyone who isn't vaxxed 🤣"

Not at all. I can’t stand stupid people. If you are so stupid that you believed all the vaccine conspiracies before, during and after the pandemic I don’t want to have anything to do with you. Including casual sex. Not that you look like Alain delon.

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By *ondiego85Man 11 weeks ago

nottingham

"This forum is always a good place to improve my block list and to make me see the depths of human stupidity

Certainly is Dr Diego. Almost as stupid as the people who proclaim they wont sleep with anyone who isn't vaxxed 🤣"

I like how you wrote that personal attack just to block me after. Classic keyboard warrior

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By *illowandthewizardCouple 11 weeks ago

Reading

Very interesting podcast about vaccines on Jo Rogan with Suzanne Humphries. I highly suspect the majority on here will not listen to it as jo Rogan is such an idiot he took horse de wormer to help cure his covid attack

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By *heLeadbettersCouple 11 weeks ago

Reading

Is there a faceplate emoji?

If ever one was needed........

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 11 weeks ago

Central

Perhaps OP could elucidate, with some clarity and evidence?

Are you a virologist? Finding it hard to get work, as you've found viruses never existed?

Health has no boundaries, between political beliefs. You can get infected or fall victim to any illhealth disease etc of course.

As for 'woke', I don't even know what he could mean by that. Respectful, liking equality, tolerance etc?

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By *lover888Man 11 weeks ago

Gosport

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By *lover888Man 11 weeks ago

Gosport

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

What an absolute helmet you are.

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By *heLeadbettersCouple 11 weeks ago

Reading

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

Edward Jenner is credited with inventing the first vaccine, specifically for smallpox, in 1796.

Not sure how woke the Liberal left were 229 years ago......

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By *rucking-HellMan 11 weeks ago

Northampton

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

I must admit, the precise moment I thought about Covid, I got it.

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By *ackformore100Man 11 weeks ago

Tin town

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

Fuck noooo and I got the T shirt and all the merch. You'll be saying the tooth fairy doesn't exist next.

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By *abulous guyMan 11 weeks ago

Huddersfield

The trouble is, many use the term "woke' because it's a word that has been used in the media, but they don't really understand what the term means.

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By (user no longer on site) 11 weeks ago

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

Have you never had any type of virus ?

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 11 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

It's true you know.

Every time a conservative has died and the death has been blamed on a virus, it was actually an assassination and cover up by the woke liberals because they were onto us.

Good luck OP. Now they know you know, and that makes you a threat to the agenda 💜

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By *ildatheart30Couple 11 weeks ago

Gorebridge

Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this

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By *imTheEnchantorMan 11 weeks ago

Sheffield

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this "

Nothing screams ‘intellectual superiority’ like criticising another group’s intelligence—while mangling the punctuation in the process.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 11 weeks ago

Gorebridge

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this

Nothing screams ‘intellectual superiority’ like criticising another group’s intelligence—while mangling the punctuation in the process."

Nope just facts, nothing screams offended like picking on punctuation

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 11 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this "

Looking for notable differences in instances of NPD comes back with...

Men exhibit a higher prevalence of NPD compared to women.

Black men and women, and Hispanic women, have a significantly higher prevalence of NPD. Some studies suggest that African Americans report higher levels of narcissism than other racial/ethnic groups.

Other minority groups (such as Hispanic, Native, and Asian Americans) also show higher narcissism scores compared to non-Hispanic whites.

Younger adults are more likely to have NPD.

Individuals with less stable marital statuses (separated, divorced, widowed, or never married) have a higher prevalence of NPD.

People with lower household incomes may also have a higher prevalence of NPD.

Individuals from the United States, which has a more individualistic culture, have higher grandiose narcissism scores (NPI) compared with individuals from Asian countries and the Middle East, which have a more collectivistic culture.

I'm not finding anything about left or right wing identification, outside of opinion pieces at least.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 11 weeks ago

Gorebridge

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this

Looking for notable differences in instances of NPD comes back with...

Men exhibit a higher prevalence of NPD compared to women.

Black men and women, and Hispanic women, have a significantly higher prevalence of NPD. Some studies suggest that African Americans report higher levels of narcissism than other racial/ethnic groups.

Other minority groups (such as Hispanic, Native, and Asian Americans) also show higher narcissism scores compared to non-Hispanic whites.

Younger adults are more likely to have NPD.

Individuals with less stable marital statuses (separated, divorced, widowed, or never married) have a higher prevalence of NPD.

People with lower household incomes may also have a higher prevalence of NPD.

I'm not finding anything about left or right wing identification, outside of opinion pieces at least."

Yeah don't bother searching what I suggested just skirt around the edges and search something different then tell me I'm wrong that'll do it. Low income suggests low cognitive function and marriage issues is more likely because of being NPD.There are narcissistits with high intelligence but they know what they are

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 11 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

"Yeah don't bother searching what I suggested just skirt around the edges and search something different then tell me I'm wrong that'll do it. Low income suggests low cognitive function and marriage issues is more likely because of being NPD.There are narcissistits with high intelligence but they know what they are "

Obviously specifying a trigger word like woke only brings up the opinion pieces. I was looking for actual data rather than simple fabrication based on opinions and anecdotal evidence. It doesn't look like there are any actual studies that recorded a political leaning while investigating NPD. Feel free to point me in the right direction if I'm not seeing the forest for the trees 💜

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By *imTheEnchantorMan 11 weeks ago

Sheffield

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this "

Here’s why the statement fails on logical and ethical grounds:

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1. Wild Generalisation

• Saying “most woke are actually NPD” is an evidence-free generalisation. There’s no data to back this up, and it relies on stereotyping.

• Broadly labelling people with a mental health diagnosis—especially one as serious as narcissistic personality disorder—is irresponsible and stigmatising.

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2. Contradictory Framing

• You describe the same group as narcissists (implying self-awareness, grandiosity, and manipulation) and as people with low cognitive function who are unaware of their own behaviour. That’s a contradiction. Narcissistic traits, as clinically defined, don’t align with cluelessness or low intelligence.

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3. Pop Psychology Doesn’t Make a Point

• Throwing around clinical terms like “NPD” and phrases like “thirst for drama and attention” may sound scathing, but they’re not persuasive without serious evidence.

• It reads like a vent rather than a critique, which is fine in private, but not effective if you’re trying to convince someone of anything.

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4. If You’re Going for Satire or Sarcasm…

If your goal is to mock or satirise a certain performative kind of “wokeness,” you’d get further with wit and precision rather than blanket diagnosis. For example:

“It’s fascinating how some self-declared defenders of justice manage to turn every conversation into a performance—like activism as reality TV.”

That gets at the behaviour without making a fake clinical claim.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 11 weeks ago

Gorebridge

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this

Here’s why the statement fails on logical and ethical grounds:

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1. Wild Generalisation

• Saying “most woke are actually NPD” is an evidence-free generalisation. There’s no data to back this up, and it relies on stereotyping.

• Broadly labelling people with a mental health diagnosis—especially one as serious as narcissistic personality disorder—is irresponsible and stigmatising.

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2. Contradictory Framing

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3. Pop Psychology Doesn’t Make a Point

• Throwing around clinical terms like “NPD” and phrases like “thirst for drama and attention” may sound scathing, but they’re not persuasive without serious evidence.

• It reads like a vent rather than a critique, which is fine in private, but not effective if you’re trying to convince someone of anything.

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4. If You’re Going for Satire or Sarcasm…

If your goal is to mock or satirise a certain performative kind of “wokeness,” you’d get further with wit and precision rather than blanket diagnosis. For example:

“It’s fascinating how some self-declared defenders of justice manage to turn every conversation into a performance—like activism as reality TV.”

That gets at the behaviour without making a fake clinical claim."

Your punctuation is fantastic

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By *ondiego85Man 11 weeks ago

nottingham

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this "

Every time, and I mean every time, some nincompoop tried to convince me of a very strange idea and said something on the line of “not my opinion you can research this” it was utter nonsense. I call your bluff.

Now all you have to do is to point to some serious research, if you know what that is. I’m gonna take the popcorn grand reserve

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By *uckscockMan 10 weeks ago

northwest

You are absolutely spot on my friend . Biggest Scam in the history of man. But they have got to get the population down it’s the only way to save the planet and I agree with that just glad it’s all the ones slow on the uptake and won’t do research themselves that will be going .

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By *nleashedCrakenMan 10 weeks ago

Widnes

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else.

Fuck noooo and I got the T shirt and all the merch. You'll be saying the tooth fairy doesn't exist next. "

Don't be ridiculous! Of course the tooth fairy exists, along with goblins, unicorns and Farther Christmas. They all exist and are all agents of evil, sent by the devil to lure good Christian folk away from God's truth. As for vaccines; they do exist but serve no purpose except for those who lack the faith to believe that, if it's not their time, God will save them and, if it their time, a vaccine will not save them from God's will.

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By *haron1701ETV/TS 9 weeks ago

Southport

"It's true you know.

Every time a conservative has died and the death has been blamed on a virus, it was actually an assassination and cover up by the woke liberals because they were onto us.

Good luck OP. Now they know you know, and that makes you a threat to the agenda 💜"

What a fantastic response

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By *ary_ArgyllMan 9 weeks ago

Argyll

Innoculating against smallpox was known about before Jenner and the practice brought to England by Lady Mary Montagu from her time in the ottoman empire. Medicine being male dominated though credited Jenner pretty much removing Lady Montagu's contribution from the story. Jenner's innovation though was use of cowpox which proved safer than innoculating with small doses of smallpox.

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By (user no longer on site) 9 weeks ago

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

Let's hope your mind doesn't get changed by a particularly bad case of shingles

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By *otsossieMan 9 weeks ago

Chesterfield

"You are absolutely spot on my friend . Biggest Scam in the history of man. But they have got to get the population down it’s the only way to save the planet and I agree with that just glad it’s all the ones slow on the uptake and won’t do research themselves that will be going ."

Possibly the most ambiguous post ever.

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By *ogandher1962Couple 9 weeks ago

Reading

Possibly the most ambiguous post ever. "

Ambiguous isn't the word we'd have used

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By *ools and the brainCouple 9 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Ahhh another enlightened one who claims to know the secrets that only those who are in the upper echelons of government know. Sourced by some YouTuber who just also happens to be sponsored and trying to get as many paranoid loonies to sign up to their nonsense as possible.

I'll just carry on with my slow on the uptake thanks

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 9 weeks ago

Central

I'll just carry on with my slow on the uptake thanks

Sometimes we overlook the privileges we have, when we come here and have a swinging site infiltrated by some of the great minds of our age, who spill the secrets of their YouTube research

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By *ust RachelTV/TS 9 weeks ago

Horsham

Smallpox virus

Human immunodeficiency virus

Human papillomavirus

Ebola virus

So you are saying that none of these exist???

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By *otsossieMan 9 weeks ago

Chesterfield

"Ambiguous isn't the word we'd have used

I was meaning about who “slow on the uptake” might be applied to

Tbh if you were going to cull the population you’d target the over 60s as health and social care costs rise dramatically and they don’t dig out as much coal down the mines.

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By *otsossieMan 9 weeks ago

Chesterfield

Not a personal dig btw! It’s the kind of batshit crap the MEGAs come up with.

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By *ackformore100Man 9 weeks ago

Tin town

"Smallpox virus

Human immunodeficiency virus

Human papillomavirus

Ebola virus

So you are saying that none of these exist???"

Only in the woken liberal left apparently. So if you're not a liberal leftie you should be OK.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman 9 weeks ago

Reading

So only the woke liberal left died in the pandemic? The Guardian must have lost half it's readership. Do you play Russian roulette as well?

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By *espacito56Man 9 weeks ago

Orkney

Nurse, nurse, he got out again.

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By *xmcdTV/TS 9 weeks ago

Wrexham

"So never mind decades of science then?

The far right don’t understand science so they don’t believe it

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By *xmcdTV/TS 9 weeks ago

Wrexham

"Smallpox virus

Human immunodeficiency virus

Human papillomavirus

Ebola virus

So you are saying that none of these exist???"

Careful because big words scare the far right they dont know what they mean

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By *egoMan 9 weeks ago

Preston

Think we found a brain worm.

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By *haron1701ETV/TS 9 weeks ago

Southport

"Think we found a brain worm. "

Or someone with a worm in their brain

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By *ervent_fervourMan 8 weeks ago

Halifax

"Most woke are actually NPD and of course often lower cognitive function one's who are unaware of their thirst for drama and attention. Not my opinion you can research this "

'Research'.

Ffs.

Tell me how your research. What qualifications and experience do you have for this?

Anybody can 'research'; few know how to research.

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By *loria JamesTV/TS 8 weeks ago

Durham

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else.

What are you going on about?

Is this just trolling or do you genuinely believe this nonsense??"

Looking at his previous post he's just an attention seeker.

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By *orleneWoman 8 weeks ago

lancashire

dont you just love the block list,

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By *haron1701ETV/TS 8 weeks ago

Southport

"dont you just love the block list,"

And idiotic posts - helps sort the wheat from the chaff

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By *ackformore100Man 8 weeks ago

Tin town

"dont you just love the block list,

And idiotic posts - helps sort the wheat from the chaff

Chaff only exists for the Woke lefties

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By *haron1701ETV/TS 8 weeks ago

Southport

"dont you just love the block list,

And idiotic posts - helps sort the wheat from the chaff

Chaff only exists for the Woke lefties

Meaning what exactly?

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By *anjo72 OP Man 8 weeks ago

Mirfield

Yep 100%

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By *ervent_fervourMan 8 weeks ago

Halifax

This is like reverse eugenics where the ignorant self-eliminate.

Bizarre.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 8 weeks ago

Central

"This is like reverse eugenics where the ignorant self-eliminate.

Bizarre."

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By *hallasMan 7 weeks ago

do you care?

Moron

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

If your unlucky enough to catch a deadly virus and your own body cant fight it off, thats the end . All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer or causing death . A persons body could take different to a vaccine and it could make them better it may cause more issues down the line . Myself i will let my own natural body fight off any virus and if my time is up thats it!!

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By *ools and the brainCouple 7 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"If your unlucky enough to catch a deadly virus and your own body cant fight it off, thats the end . All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer or causing death . A persons body could take different to a vaccine and it could make them better it may cause more issues down the line . Myself i will let my own natural body fight off any virus and if my time is up thats it!!"

Amazing logic, if I break my leg I'll forgo going to the hospital and I'll let it heal naturally or not,if the latter I'll just get gangrene and die

Do you avoid using other modern products as well such as electricity?

Look I get wht you mean in regards stuff like the common cold,but when it comes to more serious viruses you don't want to be playing russian roulette with that stuff.

And like always it's not just about YOU. In many cases it's about reducing the spread to prevent more vulnerable people catching it or are you one of those " let the old and vulnerable die" types??

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

You are right of course.

Vaccines are preventing 3 year olds dying from measles, children from contracting polio and being disabled for life, pregnant women from catching rubella and having deaf or blind babies. That's before we consider smallpox or TB.

If 'all' vaccines are doing is preventing things like this happening I think they're a good thing.

What your view on the new gonnorhea vaccine, are you happy to take your chances with your body fighting that off ?

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

I forgot the last time i had electricity pumped into my bloodstream . Also a cast is not exactly effecting your vital organs .

But put aside the sly comments and admitt that we as humans are manipulating our bodies with vaccines to try and live longer. Its not going to work for everyone some will die . Thier bodies may not accept the foriegn substance and it may cause further problems . Saying that it will work for some . Turn off the news dont listen to the negative shit pushed through radio tv and social media and just live and have the best possible time

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I freely admit that every vaccine I have taken has been in a bid to either live longer or avoid disfigurement or disability.

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

How did people get rid of gonorrhea before a NEW vaccine? haha

If you read what i put to the other guy i do say it will work for some not for others its a chance having a foriegn substance pumped onto your system .

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

"I freely admit that every vaccine I have taken has been in a bid to either live longer or avoid disfigurement or disability. "

Why do you feel the need to live longer why you not happy with what life has given you

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"How did people get rid of gonorrhea before a NEW vaccine? haha

If you read what i put to the other guy i do say it will work for some not for others its a chance having a foriegn substance pumped onto your system ."

Antibiotics but there is a new resistant strain.

It's your choice to have vaccines or not. I choose to take them. I quite like being alive.

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I freely admit that every vaccine I have taken has been in a bid to either live longer or avoid disfigurement or disability.

Why do you feel the need to live longer why you not happy with what life has given you "

Because I like being alive and try to do my best to prolong it

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By *etitesaraTV/TS 7 weeks ago

rochdale

"This forum is always a good place to improve my block list and to make me see the depths of human stupidity

Certainly is Dr Diego. Almost as stupid as the people who proclaim they wont sleep with anyone who isn't vaxxed 🤣

A view I'm entirely alongside.

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

"How did people get rid of gonorrhea before a NEW vaccine? haha

If you read what i put to the other guy i do say it will work for some not for others its a chance having a foriegn substance pumped onto your system .

Antibiotics but there is a new resistant strain.

It's your choice to have vaccines or not. I choose to take them. I quite like being alive. "

I like been alive too but when my times up thats it. I have already signed up to give any organs or tissue to anybody that needs it .

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"How did people get rid of gonorrhea before a NEW vaccine? haha

If you read what i put to the other guy i do say it will work for some not for others its a chance having a foriegn substance pumped onto your system .

Antibiotics but there is a new resistant strain.

It's your choice to have vaccines or not. I choose to take them. I quite like being alive.

I like been alive too but when my times up thats it. I have already signed up to give any organs or tissue to anybody that needs it .

Ok.

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"How did people get rid of gonorrhea before a NEW vaccine? haha

If you read what i put to the other guy i do say it will work for some not for others its a chance having a foriegn substance pumped onto your system .

Antibiotics but there is a new resistant strain.

It's your choice to have vaccines or not. I choose to take them. I quite like being alive.

I like been alive too but when my times up thats it. I have already signed up to give any organs or tissue to anybody that needs it .

Out of interest have you been vaccinated at all? Did you have your childhood vaccinations?

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

No neither are my children

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"No neither are my children "

I see.

As I said it's your choice.

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By *ogandher1962Couple 7 weeks ago

Reading

"No neither are my children "

And the children’s mother agrees with your choices?

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

Yes of course. She was vaccinated herself but she never had an option as its the parents decision when that young . Like when parents get kids ears pierced young

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple 7 weeks ago

wonderland.

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

No, my parents didnt get me vaccinated .

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By *haron1701ETV/TS 7 weeks ago

Southport

And another one blocked

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 7 weeks ago

Central

No, my parents didnt get me vaccinated ."

Part of the reason why those with impaired immune systems are not protected by herd immunity, for potentially lethal illnesses like measles

. Fuck them is the attitude, I assume

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By *etitesaraTV/TS 7 weeks ago

rochdale

I truly believe that it is your right to decline vaccinesfor yourself & your chikdren,for common ailments like measles/rubella/mumps etc. Your choice.

However, you then should face the consequences of those choices, and your children not be allowed into public education due to the increased risk to others that your choice brings.

I do not wish to see the immune compromised put at risk due to the choices of others.

Choices have consequences.

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By *ust want fun 888Man 7 weeks ago

nearby

It’s comments from people like the OP that have genuinely made me realise, there really is no hope for the world and generations to come, there’s no getting through to people with that mindset, if you could, just ask Hitler

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By *ackformore100Man 7 weeks ago

Tin town

I love the irony and ignorance of both sides here calling the opposing views ignorant. This topic above all in these fora seems to inflame many contributors

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By *ackformore100Man 7 weeks ago

Tin town

"I truly believe that it is your right to decline vaccinesfor yourself & your chikdren,for common ailments like measles/rubella/mumps etc. Your choice.

However, you then should face the consequences of those choices, and your children not be allowed into public education due to the increased risk to others that your choice brings.

I do not wish to see the immune compromised put at risk due to the choices of others.

Choices have consequences."

Interesting. Or those with impaired immune systems make a choice to go to public spaces and have consequences of their choices.

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By *iss_Juicy79Woman 7 weeks ago

Edinburgh

"I truly believe that it is your right to decline vaccinesfor yourself & your chikdren,for common ailments like measles/rubella/mumps etc. Your choice.

However, you then should face the consequences of those choices, and your children not be allowed into public education due to the increased risk to others that your choice brings.

I do not wish to see the immune compromised put at risk due to the choices of others.

Choices have consequences.

Interesting. Or those with impaired immune systems make a choice to go to public spaces and have consequences of their choices. "

So if someone has impaired immune systems have to stay at home? Or?

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

They can choose but they shouldn't have to stay in the house cause they have weak immune systems

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By *etitesaraTV/TS 7 weeks ago

rochdale

"I truly believe that it is your right to decline vaccinesfor yourself & your chikdren,for common ailments like measles/rubella/mumps etc. Your choice.

However, you then should face the consequences of those choices, and your children not be allowed into public education due to the increased risk to others that your choice brings.

I do not wish to see the immune compromised put at risk due to the choices of others.

Choices have consequences.

Interesting. Or those with impaired immune systems make a choice to go to public spaces and have consequences of their choices. "

Those people don't choose to be immuno-compromised though. Anti vaxxers have made a choice & should live with the ramifications of that choice.

A person's right to live as they see fit ends right at the point where that choice puts others at risk.

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple 7 weeks ago

wonderland.

No, my parents didnt get me vaccinated ."
I've never actually met someone that didn't have their childhood vaccines. I've encouraged all my children to have my grandkids vaccinated against the important things.

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By *illan-KillashMan 7 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

You say "All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer" like that's a bad thing.

And "all"

Given your age there's a good chance the only reason you're able to type this nonsense is being vaccinated as a child.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 7 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"Yes of course. She was vaccinated herself but she never had an option as its the parents decision when that young . Like when parents get kids ears pierced young "

But you earlier said your own children haven't been vaccinated, was that their choice or yours?

I can't see a child being mature and informed enough to make that choice and would probably only be mimicking their parents opinion.

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By *ackformore100Man 7 weeks ago

Tin town

You say "All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer" like that's a bad thing.

And "all"

Given your age there's a good chance the only reason you're able to type this nonsense is being vaccinated as a child."

The only reason? If I understand your comment correctly. You seem to say that anyone who want vaccinated died? Whilst I don't doubt that some vaccines, most vaccines have helped fight disease. I think it's very far from true that the only reason he is alive now is because he was vaccinated as a child or would have died.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS 7 weeks ago

rochdale

You say "All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer" like that's a bad thing.

And "all"

Given your age there's a good chance the only reason you're able to type this nonsense is being vaccinated as a child.

Check out child mortality rates before vaccines became widespread.

Your chance of living to adulthood in Europe before vaccines became widespread was roughly 50%.

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By *icecouple561Couple 7 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Unvaccinated people stand less chance if catching any of the diseases that have been almost eradicated because we currently have herd immunity. Once that goes they will be at higher risk.

As I said previously that's a choice they have made

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By *ackformore100Man 7 weeks ago

Tin town

You say "All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer" like that's a bad thing.

And "all"

Given your age there's a good chance the only reason you're able to type this nonsense is being vaccinated as a child.

Check out child mortality rates before vaccines became widespread.

Your chance of living to adulthood in Europe before vaccines became widespread was roughly 50%."

I haven't been able to find that. The only one I can find is 18 % before 1900s. In any case unless that number was 100% died without vaccines the original statement is hyperbole. Not arguing against vaccines but I'm challenging the notion that if he had not been vaccinated as a child he would not be here to make the statement. It's not accurate.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 7 weeks ago

Central

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 7 weeks ago

Central

We've been very fortunate to have the very many vaccines freely available to us in this country. Elsewhere, many aren't so fortunate.

Measles is 1 of the previously common illnesses that were around. Like other countries, vaccination rates were so high, the country benefitted from herd immunity - this protective blanket was so valuable.

As the NHS states 'Measles infection during pregnancy can result in the loss or early birth of the baby'. Not a great potential start to life - if the mother is fortunate enough not to lose her unborn baby

Not everyone at risk, from us not having herd immunity will know about it, or even have been born. The decisions that we take have greater significance than just our little lives.

And infections may leave some with disabilities for their lifetime. We have hard won freedoms and it's worth honouring our responsibilities, that can truly help to support the wellbeing of our society

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By *aliwackerMan 7 weeks ago

You say "All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer" like that's a bad thing.

And "all"

Given your age there's a good chance the only reason you're able to type this nonsense is being vaccinated as a child."

I was not vaccinated by my parents as my elder sibling had seizures after hers. And seen as though your all into researching look it up yourself . Its rare but happens!!

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By *anjo72 OP Man 6 weeks ago

Mirfield

Go on the AZT…

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By *anjo72 OP Man 6 weeks ago

Mirfield

Exactly fair enough. Tbf…most of us want to bring our daughters up in an environment where they can have children of their own. lol 😂

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By *rogressivepairCouple 6 weeks ago

Derby

A swinger (well, is trying to be) who thinks there are no viruses? So no need for STI testing or safe sex then……… good luck with getting to meet with anyone one here…

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By *illan-KillashMan 6 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

You say "All we are doing with vaccinces is making people live longer" like that's a bad thing.

And "all"

Given your age there's a good chance the only reason you're able to type this nonsense is being vaccinated as a child.

Key words, "good chance"

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By *anjo72 OP Man 6 weeks ago

Mirfield

Look up triple vaxxed 🙄

Sometimes it’s best to take a step back..and reflect.

Good Luck ♥️

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By *aliwackerMan 6 weeks ago

"A swinger (well, is trying to be) who thinks there are no viruses? So no need for STI testing or safe sex then……… good luck with getting to meet with anyone one here…"

Where in this thread did i mention no viruses ?

Wheres did i say anything that says anything to do with sti or safe sex .

All i have stated is that vaccinations dont work for everyone. And people have them to try and live longer . Which isnt always the case as the vaccinations CAN have complications . Hence why some people choose not to have them ! And take thier chances.

Im not telling you your wrong for getting vaccinated im not telling you that you have to be either.

Im saying its your choice but sometimes theres complications with them . And people are wanting to live longer thats why theu choose to have them . Those people dont want to take the risk and let thier body grow emmunity . Its a choice

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By *izandpaulCouple 6 weeks ago

merseyside

"A swinger (well, is trying to be) who thinks there are no viruses? So no need for STI testing or safe sex then……… good luck with getting to meet with anyone one here…

Where in this thread did i mention no viruses ?

Wheres did i say anything that says anything to do with sti or safe sex .

Im not telling you your wrong for getting vaccinated im not telling you that you have to be either.

Can I respectfully ask if you have children will you allow them HPV vaccine that's being rolled out to most kids.

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By *orny PTMan 6 weeks ago

Peterborough

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else.

Shane about all those vaccines you had as a kid.

A real waste of time.

I've never had measles, mumps, germain measles/rubella, Hepatitus, because I've had those vaccines.

I've had some flu jabs and some flu

I've only tested positive once, for covid without symptoms.

I've had loads of colds, which I struggle to get rid of, because there is no vaccine

(I REALLY WANT A COLD VACCINE, ALL 200 STRAINS WORTH)

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By *illan-KillashMan 6 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

This Doctor makes a valid point about natural immunity.

I'm not convinced anyone who talks about natural immunity understands what it actually means for the individual.

https://youtube.com/shorts/6DdIUUPm3ug?si=F2QOYo2XQOhedBqB

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 6 weeks ago

Central

"A swinger (well, is trying to be) who thinks there are no viruses? So no need for STI testing or safe sex then……… good luck with getting to meet with anyone one here…

Where in this thread did i mention no viruses ?

Wheres did i say anything that says anything to do with sti or safe sex .

Im not telling you your wrong for getting vaccinated im not telling you that you have to be either.

It is a choice but sadly not everyone has it

. Some have compromised immune systems and can get the benefits, via herd immunity, should enough people choose to get vaccinated. People can get immunity, by being vaccinated and the sheer density of the numbers with immunity, creates a near-impenetrable wall, that viruses etc can't cross and thus are stopped from reaching people who don't have immunity.

Other choices -

Potentially a choice between death or remaining alive, with intact immunity. Common diseases can kill

Possibly a choice between a lifetime of permanent disability or remaining alive and healthy. Commonplace diseases like Measles can cause severe problems, if they don't kill you.

We've eradicated some diseases, via vaccination. Others, including HPV, can be almost eradicated as severe ill-health causes.

Most cancers of the Cervix are caused by HPV. Are you interested in reducing the level of this cancer amongst women?

HPV is also responsible for other types of cancer. If you look at Cancer Research UK, you can find out about other cancers that we can help to reduce/eradicate by vaccines.

. Surely a great thing!

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By *illan-KillashMan 6 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

"A swinger (well, is trying to be) who thinks there are no viruses? So no need for STI testing or safe sex then……… good luck with getting to meet with anyone one here…

Where in this thread did i mention no viruses ?

Wheres did i say anything that says anything to do with sti or safe sex .

Im not telling you your wrong for getting vaccinated im not telling you that you have to be either.

It is a choice but sadly not everyone has it

Other choices -

Potentially a choice between death or remaining alive, with intact immunity. Common diseases can kill

Possibly a choice between a lifetime of permanent disability or remaining alive and healthy. Commonplace diseases like Measles can cause severe problems, if they don't kill you.

We've eradicated some diseases, via vaccination. Others, including HPV, can be almost eradicated as severe ill-health causes.

Most cancers of the Cervix are caused by HPV. Are you interested in reducing the level of this cancer amongst women?

HPV is also responsible for other types of cancer. If you look at Cancer Research UK, you can find out about other cancers that we can help to reduce/eradicate by vaccines.

. Surely a great thing! "

I'm immunocompromised.

If theres a vaccine for some shit that's going around, I'll take it.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

How ironic that the people who take all the vaccines and medicines and take advice from the businesses who profit from drugs when it comes to diet and lifestyle end up needing more drugs for more conditions. Most likely a coincidence

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 6 weeks ago

Central

"How ironic that the people who take all the vaccines and medicines and take advice from the businesses who profit from drugs when it comes to diet and lifestyle end up needing more drugs for more conditions. Most likely a coincidence "

Certainly, vague correlation ain't gonna win any research awards

Are you against certain/all vaccines, should we assume? You'd not have children getting vaccinated, including against HPV, which could prevent cancer of the Cervix?

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By *izandpaulCouple 6 weeks ago

merseyside

Am I getting this correct.

People who have vaccines, any vaccines and take drugs prescribed by a medic for conditions which can be alleviated or helped by medication.

Most people take advice from medically qualified people the profit drugs companies make don't think comes into their decision.

In your mind if people take drugs and vaccines end up needing more medication later on in life.

Am I understanding you right ?

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

Just a general observation, Im almost 40 and have no health conditions and take absolutely no medications long term. I do understand that drugs can save a life in an emergency but the amount of people taking regular or daily medication for things that can be fixed with diet and lifestyle is outrageous. Terrain theory is far more logical than germ theory (yes it's just a theory) and I never seem to "catch" anything that's going around and haven't for many years

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By *ools and the brainCouple 6 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I'd be more concerned about all the crap they put in food, sugar's, salt, additives...

Than life saving drugs.

Without my blood pressure meds I'd probably not be here now.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

"Just a general observation, Im almost 40 and have no health conditions and take absolutely no medications long term. I do understand that drugs can save a life in an emergency but the amount of people taking regular or daily medication for things that can be fixed with diet and lifestyle is outrageous. Terrain theory is far more logical than germ theory (yes it's just a theory) and I never seem to "catch" anything that's going around and haven't for many years "

Can you share your data on the exact number of people that are taking unnecessary medication? Along with the proof of why it's unnecessary? Or is this just some fuzzy feelings you have? Being "almost 40" doesn't give you any special authority. Come back when you're almost 60 and tell us all how push ups and bran flakes are the only cure-all you need

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

Bran flakes aren't healthy

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 6 weeks ago

Central

Are you generally pro-vaccine?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

"Bran flakes aren't healthy"

Thanks for the heads-up, RFK

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By *orny PTMan 6 weeks ago

Peterborough

Are you generally pro-vaccine?"

Is the pill Ok with you and how do I stop being allergic to dust?

If you can cure IBS then please DM me.

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By *illan-KillashMan 6 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

I made it to 65 with no health conditions and didn't take any medications. Also, healthy diet, plenty of exercise, don't drink, don't smoke.

And then, out of the blue, cancer.

You might be almost 40 with no health conditions. But you've no idea at all what's just around the corner, you may be confident, but you're not invincible.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

I didn't claim to be invisible but most people my age seem to have some sort of problem and be on some sort of medication while eating a grain and veg based diet and thinking they're doing great

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

I'm not invincible either lol

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By *athnBobCouple 6 weeks ago

sandwell

"germ theory (yes it's just a theory)"

Oh dear, reading too many ill-informed social media posts it would seem. You see people making this mistake all the time on FB, and the like, on conspiracy pages.

Common usage of the word 'theory'is very different to the scientific use, as in 'germ theory'.

Can I suggest you google "scientific theory definition"?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

"germ theory (yes it's just a theory)

Oh dear, reading too many ill-informed social media posts it would seem. You see people making this mistake all the time on FB, and the like, on conspiracy pages.

Common usage of the word 'theory'is very different to the scientific use, as in 'germ theory'.

Can I suggest you google "scientific theory definition"?

You're wasting your time. We live in an era where a strongly held belief can magically become fact providing you shout about it loud enough on social media.

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By *ackformore100Man 6 weeks ago

Tin town

But that's not what they've written. Are you disagreeing that many ailments can be helped with changes to diet and lifestyle?

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

But that's not what they've written. Are you disagreeing that many ailments can be helped with changes to diet and lifestyle? "

Why are you assuming that people who take medication aren't also conscious of diet and lifestyle? I want to see the hard data that shows the scale of the "outrageous" number of people taking apparently unnecessary medication. I also want to see the proof as to exactly why it's unnecessary and how it can all "be fixed with diet and lifestyle". Is it only diet and lifestyle or would prayer fix it just as easily? I'm guessing that the poster is able to back up his claims without resorting to silly appeals to "common sense" or apocryphal stories about someone's Nan who cured her hypoglycaemia by having cold baths and long walks.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

"I want hard data" from the businesses who can only survive because of mass drug consumption. Think about it

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

""I want hard data" from the businesses who can only survive because of mass drug consumption. Think about it "

So you have absolutely nothing concrete to back up your fuzzy feels except "open your eyes, sheeple".

Got it.

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By *izandpaulCouple 6 weeks ago

merseyside

""I want hard data" from the businesses who can only survive because of mass drug consumption. Think about it "

I would think most drug companies can only survive from the sale of drugs on a massive scale.

The cost of bringing a drug to market is eye watering and many never reach market.

Is there a problem of over medication? of course there is but the majority of folks on medication are on it for a short while. People with chronic ailments may be on medication for life.

Is it wise to review medication, yes it is.

Is it wise to have a healthy lifestyle including varied diet, portion control, pack in smoking, reduce alcohol intake, get regular exercise and have a good social network away from social media, yes to this too.

If only life was as simple as you spout, carrots, spinach and jogging don't solve everything.

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By *anchesterTaurusMan 6 weeks ago

Prestwich

Those people who died of the woke liberal left virus are probably very confused.

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By *heLeadbettersCouple 6 weeks ago

Reading

""I want hard data" from the businesses who can only survive because of mass drug consumption. Think about it "

Then send them an FOI request.

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

"In the Woke liberal left.

Doesn’t exist anywhere else."

True. Agreed 100%.

No more pubs...no healthcare for the elderly..nobody allowed to the funerals..cashless economy...the new normal...high food prices...

And they all reported their neighbours

0.01% of 94 year olds died

0.02% of alcoholic chain smoking obese 60 year olds died

Real diseases kill 60% of people

And all the fabswingers need to remember they were totally against any form of travel in 2020 because of COVID....now they are all going about their daily lives even though it hasn't gone anywhere.

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

"scientists"

Who also think God isn't real but "gender" is real.

I know about higgs boson, big bang and evolution but atheism and science bro is now a religion for woke people who "believe" in things.

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple 6 weeks ago

Stoke (On holiday in Spain)

"Woke isn't real. It is part of a political discourse designed to spark an emotional response from morons on the extreme left and the right of the spectrum. Most rational people agree sensible border controls are necessary without demonising people. Most normal people care about how their children are going to live in a future where Billionaires tricked idiots to fight trans people instead of demanding some sense of equality. Vurtue signalling your own group with words designed only to offend morons in your own made up war doesn't really change the fact that the rest of us are sick of your shit. Far right or far left your all tards to me."

Yeah but you won't know you're woke, only others see it! I see it 👍

Mr F.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

""scientists"

Who also think God isn't real but "gender" is real.

I know about higgs boson, big bang and evolution but atheism and science bro is now a religion for woke people who "believe" in things.

People are free to believe whatever they want - that God exists, that the earth is flat, that the holocaust didn't happen and that the 2020 US election was rigged. Doesn't mean I have to entertain their beliefs.

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

Gender was invented in the 1950s by a peadophile called Dr John money.

I will just stick with Adam and Eve

Bible 1 atheists 0

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

I don't "believe"

Atheists believe in scientists and mass media who in turn believe in Baal worship.

Like believing in a rampant disease that didn't kill anyone...

There is more proof in the old testament than COVID and gender nonsense.

You can back the old testament mythology against Egyptian and sumerian scripts about plagues and floods.

But there is no evidence of anything other than boy/girl or of a killer disease in 2020.

I'm sticking with the bible...

You believe Huw Edwards

John money and Niel de grass Tyson.

Modern atheists are not scientists they believe in psudo scientists without any knowledge of physics biology or chemistry.

It's a religion

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

Well that's the most muddle-headed justification for Magic Books and Imaginary Friends I've read in a long time.

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By *ildatheart30Couple 6 weeks ago

Gorebridge

I don't advocate carrots or spinach or jogging that's all advised by the NHS that's part of the problem

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

Lol the NHS wasted all the money I give it.

NHS is basicly a day center for middle aged women with personality disorders.

Not much use if you need medical attention though.

In my wife's country they get their own national insurance but if I wanted to I'd just walk in and say "can I have a brain scan" "yeh £10" "will see you in 5 minuets"

The thing that frustrates me most about the NHS is the people who gaslight you Asif there is a real reason you need to wait over 3 months for a simple thing.

I've worked in schools and hospitals. Both are a 3rd world standard.

We live in the matrix or 1984...I can see through the crap because I've been to alot of countries that are better.

Wife and I just earn money here we will build property in her country with that money. We won't send our children to school here and we will get out before we get old and need medical attention.

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By *orny PTMan 6 weeks ago

Peterborough

"germ theory (yes it's just a theory)

Oh dear, reading too many ill-informed social media posts it would seem. You see people making this mistake all the time on FB, and the like, on conspiracy pages.

Common usage of the word 'theory'is very different to the scientific use, as in 'germ theory'.

Can I suggest you google "scientific theory definition"?

You're wasting your time. We live in an era where a strongly held belief can magically become fact providing you shout about it loud enough on social media."

Always good to know that the word theory has three distinct meanings. Find a good dictionary, Oxford or Cambridge will suffice, they are not that hard to find.

Once the correct definition has been identified and used properly, then and only then can the debate begin.

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By *orny PTMan 6 weeks ago

Peterborough

"Lol the NHS wasted all the money I give it.

NHS is basicly a day center for middle aged women with personality disorders.

Not much use if you need medical attention though.

In my wife's country they get their own national insurance but if I wanted to I'd just walk in and say "can I have a brain scan" "yeh £10" "will see you in 5 minuets"

The thing that frustrates me most about the NHS is the people who gaslight you Asif there is a real reason you need to wait over 3 months for a simple thing.

I've worked in schools and hospitals. Both are a 3rd world standard.

We live in the matrix or 1984...I can see through the crap because I've been to alot of countries that are better.

Wife and I just earn money here we will build property in her country with that money. We won't send our children to school here and we will get out before we get old and need medical attention."

What country are you talking about when you say 'her country'?

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By *ogandher1962Couple 6 weeks ago

Reading

"Lol the NHS wasted all the money I give it.

NHS is basicly a day center for middle aged women with personality disorders.

Not much use if you need medical attention though.

In my wife's country they get their own national insurance but if I wanted to I'd just walk in and say "can I have a brain scan" "yeh £10" "will see you in 5 minuets"

The thing that frustrates me most about the NHS is the people who gaslight you Asif there is a real reason you need to wait over 3 months for a simple thing.

I've worked in schools and hospitals. Both are a 3rd world standard.

We live in the matrix or 1984...I can see through the crap because I've been to alot of countries that are better.

Wife and I just earn money here we will build property in her country with that money. We won't send our children to school here and we will get out before we get old and need medical attention."
One of us works for the NHS, the others life was saved by the NHS, you're talking bollox.

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By *inky PerkyCouple 6 weeks ago

Kingston

"I don't advocate carrots or spinach or jogging that's all advised by the NHS that's part of the problem "

Still waiting for your data on the "outrageous" number of people taking unnecessary medication. Can you share it?

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By *orny PTMan 6 weeks ago

Peterborough

""scientists"

Who also think God isn't real but "gender" is real.

I know about higgs boson, big bang and evolution but atheism and science bro is now a religion for woke people who "believe" in things.

Not all atheists think like that. There is no god, woke is broke and where's your evidence?( There I said those things that, don't fit your assumptions)

Without sciences such as linguistics, optics, ergonomics and even mineralogy, you wouldn't be typing your comments, on a touchscreen or keyboard and see it pop up on a glass screen, eventually travelling down copper and glass fibres, to land on this and many other screens.

Science is not a religion. It never was. Pragma is king here, not stigma or dogma.

Science allows and forces you to ask questions, religion forbids such doubting Thomas's and casts shame on those that do.

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By *orny PTMan 6 weeks ago

Peterborough

"I don't advocate carrots or spinach or jogging that's all advised by the NHS that's part of the problem

Still waiting for your data on the "outrageous" number of people taking unnecessary medication. Can you share it?"

Anti depressants might fall under that claim, as some (ie mine) therapists don't think it's always a good idea.

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By *illan-KillashMan 6 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

"Lol the NHS wasted all the money I give it.

NHS is basicly a day center for middle aged women with personality disorders.

Not much use if you need medical attention though.

In my wife's country they get their own national insurance but if I wanted to I'd just walk in and say "can I have a brain scan" "yeh £10" "will see you in 5 minuets"

The thing that frustrates me most about the NHS is the people who gaslight you Asif there is a real reason you need to wait over 3 months for a simple thing.

I've worked in schools and hospitals. Both are a 3rd world standard.

We live in the matrix or 1984...I can see through the crap because I've been to alot of countries that are better.

Wife and I just earn money here we will build property in her country with that money. We won't send our children to school here and we will get out before we get old and need medical attention."

I'm not a middle aged woman with a personality disorder.

In 2025 the NHS saved my life.

The UK isn't perfect, but if you think other countries are better, you are welcome leave.

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

" but if you think other countries are better, you are welcome leave.

Every other country would save you're life quicker.

I've lived in other countries.

I am just using this one for the currency value. Not the standard of living.

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

I worked for the NHS myself.

My mother has been working for them since the 1970s.

It's a virtue signal.

They are underperforming and over funded just like the schools.

Woke nonsense.

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By *randMrsShebaCouple 6 weeks ago

Birmingham

You can just walk in and get service in my wife's country without a waiting list.

Anything like dentists or scans etc...

To get my wife's braces removed in UK they said it would cost £3000.

Yet people keep defending it like agents of the matrix or abuse victims or russian communists.

Keep making debates about how things are not shit when they obviously are.

My best friend has a dead end job in NHS admin. (I did that after leaving school for a while)

He was one of the smartest people in school and now he baby sits emotional outbursts of women in his office.

You notice EVERYONE IS RELATED in schools and hospitals...we don't reward merit in this country.

We are so backwards and rapidly declining. We are not a first world nation anymore.

Yet people come at me with these emotional arguments like "my sister is a nurse"...so what?

I've been a teacher and NHS admin. I've done so many things I am very experienced in life.

NHS offices are full of petty Karen's and that constant bickering means productivity is low.

Why else do they have these ridiculous waiting lists? They get more tax money than other nations who outperform us.

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By *ogandher1962Couple 6 weeks ago

Reading

"You can just walk in and get service in my wife's country without a waiting list.