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"Has anyone had this on the NHS yet "
According to an article in The Guardian today, it is being offered first to ‘high risk’ individuals across England who will be contacted in the coming weeks and the vaccination program rolls out from August 1st. |
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Eligible patients, which includes gay and bisexual men who have a recent history of multiple sexual partners or a sexually transmitted infection (STI), will start to be offered the vaccine through local authority-commissioned sexual health services from early August. |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
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Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine "
Yeah, they’re hoping that it will have an impact on a large scale, but individually it’s by that impressive.
I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs? |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
Yeah, they’re hoping that it will have an impact on a large scale, but individually it’s by that impressive.
I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs? "
I thought that this vaccine is also primarily used as a meningococcal vaccine. |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
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It could include men who have sex with men, I'm assuming, who aren't gay ,- if their assessed risk is high.
The benefits of using clinics, where staff know you, are good - they can assess before people have arrived etc |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
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It’s primarily directed at Bi and Gay men but they will assess individual cases. I’m pretty sure as a woman swinger who has casual sex with Bi men (who are also swingers) you could persuade them you should get the shot. If the argue tell them you never use condoms 🤣 |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
surly that's discrimination "
It’s targeted and strategic intervention, based on available data. It’s not a ‘no’ if you’re not gay; that person has misunderstood and consequently misrepresented how individuals will be prioritised. |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
Yeah, they’re hoping that it will have an impact on a large scale, but individually it’s by that impressive.
I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs? "
It's a completely different vaccine originally developed for Men B |
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Hep b is a virus
Gonorrhea is a bacterial infection
Even if only 27 %effective that could significantly reduce the infection pool
I suspect if you go to the gum clinic and say you are a swinger they would consider you to have a higher risk profile
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
Yeah, they’re hoping that it will have an impact on a large scale, but individually it’s by that impressive.
I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs?
I thought that this vaccine is also primarily used as a meningococcal vaccine. "
it is the same vaccine they are going for heard immunity, it’s two injections |
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Definitely something that ALL sexually active people who have multiple partners (gay or straight) should be asking about.
There is only ONE antibiotic left that is effective against gonorrhoea - Ceftriaxone. When that fails - and it will, like all antibiotics do over time - there will be nothing left to treat it.
Gonorrhoea clears itself up, but only after 6 to 9 months. I’m sure everyone can agree that nobody who is sexually active will be abstaining from sex for that length of time, so just think of the sh*t show that scenario will present. 🤢🤮 |
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I had the first shot of the vaccine this week at the sexual health clinic.
All very straight forward. This vaccine is being rolled out from August.
Second shot is after 4 weeks.
Two shot will offer 60% effectiveness again gonorrhoea. It is the same vaccine that is used against meningitis, so it is not a new vaccine and has been used safely for years. |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
Yeah, they’re hoping that it will have an impact on a large scale, but individually it’s by that impressive.
I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs?
I thought that this vaccine is also primarily used as a meningococcal vaccine. it is the same vaccine they are going for heard immunity, it’s two injections "
Pardon? |
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I got the first dose last week, it is primarily offered to MSM (Men who have Sex with Men) but it's also available to people who have multiple partners, enjoy group sex, attend sex parties, have partners who are MSM, or are sex workers.
The efficacy is around 40% which isn't perfect but it's still a 40% lower risk, and it specifically targets the antibiotic-resistant strains.
There are currently 4 places offering it in & around London, I don't know about elsewhere
https://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/hiv-sexual-health/clinics/vaccines-for-gonorrhoea-in-the-news |
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"I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs? "
They're different, I got the Hep B vax a couple years ago. Also the M Pox vax, and had to push surprisingly hard to get a HPV vax.
I'd be very surprised if anything that targets or prevents viruses is also effective against bacterial infections - although I'm not a scientist or anything, just a bit nerdy 🤓 |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine "
The vaccine will prevent many cases so it IS effective just ot 100%....let's keep it real here |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
Yeah, they’re hoping that it will have an impact on a large scale, but individually it’s by that impressive.
I’m wondering whether you effectively have the vaccine already if you had the Hep B vaccine, or are they different enough that you need both jabs? "
HepB (virus) is unrelated to gonorrhea (bacteria) - so HeP B vacc offers no protextion against gonorrhea |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
The vaccine will prevent many cases so it IS effective just ot 100%....let's keep it real here"
I know that I'd prefer to have, than not. As well as preferring partners who've had it, than not |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
The vaccine will prevent many cases so it IS effective just ot 100%....let's keep it real here"
27% isn’t great if people think they have protection from the illness, and therefore partake in even more risky sex. Making you more likely to get it (3 in 4 chance, if the other person has it) |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
The vaccine will prevent many cases so it IS effective just ot 100%....let's keep it real here
27% isn’t great if people think they have protection from the illness, and therefore partake in even more risky sex. Making you more likely to get it (3 in 4 chance, if the other person has it)"
People won't be given the impression that it's 100% effective - no vaccine is and STI clinic staff are fantastic at communicating, as we all know, from using them.
This vaccine is another tool to help to reduce infections as well as costs of treating them |
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"Yes as above, if you’re not a Gay man etc then it’s a no.
Trixie
Also, previous clinical studies of the efficacy of this vaccine range between 27% and 40% so it’s not a particularly effective vaccine
The vaccine will prevent many cases so it IS effective just ot 100%....let's keep it real here
27% isn’t great if people think they have protection from the illness, and therefore partake in even more risky sex. Making you more likely to get it (3 in 4 chance, if the other person has it)
People won't be given the impression that it's 100% effective - no vaccine is and STI clinic staff are fantastic at communicating, as we all know, from using them.
This vaccine is another tool to help to reduce infections as well as costs of treating them"
Very true. Two shots of the vaccine give up to 60% protection. If it is widely used it will help reduce the number of infections and help with herd immunity. |
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"I've had the first of two jabs, but it was explained to me that I qualified for it only because I've had 6 or more sexual partners in the last 12 months. "
is that with men...?. as I've been told I dont qualify...
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I've now had my 1st shot, at my routine visit. I think it's targeted at Zglbt but there's been discussion of it having some flexibility. It's great for everyone, to reduce potential infection levels
DoxyOep is another tool they're using to help |
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"I've now had my 1st shot, at my routine visit. I think it's targeted at Zglbt but there's been discussion of it having some flexibility. It's great for everyone, to reduce potential infection levels
DoxyOep is another tool they're using to help "
Yes was also given doxypep - helps reduce syphillis after any encounter … all good to keep infections down and I’d say essential for those that play … responsible for yourself and your partners! Thanks to all the support this |
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Just tell them you’re gay - or at least had hot sex with a man - if that helps you get up the list. I’m happy to help anyone build experience if you’d prefer to be truthful about it… (sorry, can’t help out the women on this one!) |
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Crazy, I've had a few bb sex with gay men and not caught anything, the one time I had bb sex with a woman I got gonorrhoea "
I think gay men have had regular testing drilled into them more that straights |
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I am waiting for my clinic to get the vaccination in as they had to order a new fridge to keep it in.
I was honest with them as I get my cheek up there, that I am a swinger. So booked in as soon as it possible.
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"Definitely something that ALL sexually active people who have multiple partners (gay or straight) should be asking about.
There is only ONE antibiotic left that is effective against gonorrhoea - Ceftriaxone. When that fails - and it will, like all antibiotics do over time - there will be nothing left to treat it.
Gonorrhoea clears itself up, but only after 6 to 9 months. I’m sure everyone can agree that nobody who is sexually active will be abstaining from sex for that length of time, so just think of the sh*t show that scenario will present. 🤢🤮"
since when did it cure itself? |
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"Definitely something that ALL sexually active people who have multiple partners (gay or straight) should be asking about.
There is only ONE antibiotic left that is effective against gonorrhoea - Ceftriaxone. When that fails - and it will, like all antibiotics do over time - there will be nothing left to treat it.
Gonorrhoea clears itself up, but only after 6 to 9 months. I’m sure everyone can agree that nobody who is sexually active will be abstaining from sex for that length of time, so just think of the sh*t show that scenario will present. 🤢🤮 since when did it cure itself?"
It doesn’t. Symptoms might disappear temporarily but without dual therapy antibiotics it will remain active and transmissible |
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