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By *angtidy42 OP   Couple 35 weeks ago

Redditch

Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?

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By *moothstaffspeepsCouple 35 weeks ago

Stafford

Quick and easy sells, long and difficult, exercise and nutritional changes over time is less of an easy sel.

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By *ingerie lover1TV/TS 35 weeks ago

Cardiff

They work. My wife has dropped 25kg and I I doe. 10kg with another 15kg to go. They turn the noise of food goes even at 2.5mg dose on monjouo

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By *en_kMan 35 weeks ago

North West

Only heard good things about the weight loss side and very close friend has been encouraged back into the gym and the swimming pool due to her initial weight loss. Maintaining that habit is the tricky bit if/when the jabs stop.

The down side is the loss of food enjoyment which makes it difficult acquiring good eating habits without a lot of effort.

I’m taking Semaglutide tabs for diabetes. Only lost about 3kgs in 9 months but it is helping with blood sugar levels and to be frank if my waist drops below 32” I’m struggling to buy in the Men’s clothing section

Don’t be out off by the critics; it’s working for most people and if the helping hand leads to weight loss and encourages better food and exercise habits then alls good.

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By *umalotagainMan 35 weeks ago

between OX26 & BH23

Having tried going to the gym and all sorts of healthy eating diets etc etc nothing worked for me that was sustainable

Ok it’s new but on Mounjaro now for 8 weeks and lost 9kg never lost even 1/2 of that in 6 months trying the diet a and exercise stuff

I know it’s expensive but so far it has been worth it

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By *rindnbump V2Couple 35 weeks ago

Our little world of Kinky Fuckery in Durham

Myself and hubster have benefited from them.

I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from.

It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite.

We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing.

We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them.

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By *xposedInTheMaleMan 35 weeks ago

Cambridgeshire

I find that the trouble with weightless jabs is that they never stay where I put them.

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By *onkey 2023Man 35 weeks ago

West Wales

I’d love a weightless jab…to be able to float around like an astronaut

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By *implyfun1Man 35 weeks ago

glasgow

Offset the cost of the jab against what you spend on take aways every month also with it suppressing your appetite then your food shop bill will come down every month so the cost of the jab isn’t that much really

Then when you notice the change and your feeling better mentally and physically then it’s worth it for me

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By *angtidy42 OP   Couple 35 weeks ago

Redditch

The fun of auto correct and not reading before pressing post.

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By *xposedInTheMaleMan 35 weeks ago

Cambridgeshire


"The fun of auto correct and not reading before pressing post. "

We've all been there!

But seriously, what I've been told is that unless you take the opportunity to change while you're on the jabs, nothing will change when you come off them, and you'll gradually put the weight back on.

It's just that it's easier to motivate yourself to change when you're feeling good about your body.

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By *ingerie lover1TV/TS 35 weeks ago

Cardiff

I don't plan to come off them. May well drop to 2 5mg for maintenance

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?"

It's not for me....yet? Dunno about the cost because they recently said that they would put the price up in the UK.

I'm BMI obese, middle-aged aged but I don't have high blood pressure, blood cholesterol or high sugar. Kidneys and liver still working well. So no obesity related diseases.

Having been on anti-depressants on and off for over 20 years, I'd rather not. Especially if I have to look into hormones at some point.

I have disordered eating but not an eating disorder or food noise. My main health issues are body strengthening and stretching, mental health and hormones.

Obviously, if you have obesity-related health conditions, speak to your GP or consultant. I saw that it can help PCOS which can reduce weight loss.

One of my partners has diabetes so he's been switching around on them via the NHS. He doesn't like them but he has to get his diabetes under control.

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By *aughtydealcoupleCouple 35 weeks ago

Walmer, Deal

Like everything it works for some and not others also the possible side effects have to be considered i looked into them as have high blood pressure and diabetes and over weight but unfortunately as I have acute pancreatitis the doctor won't prescribe injections as it to high risk

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan 35 weeks ago

belfast


"Having tried going to the gym and all sorts of healthy eating diets etc etc nothing worked for me that was sustainable

Ok it’s new but on Mounjaro now for 8 weeks and lost 9kg never lost even 1/2 of that in 6 months trying the diet a and exercise stuff

I know it’s expensive but so far it has been worth it

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You obviously weren't doing the gym and diet correctly.

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By *ang VanMan 35 weeks ago

Birmingham

The cost is going up significantly due to demand.

There are others in trial and the moment that work on appetite suppression and increased metabolic rate same as MJ but also increase insulin production which is key in fat loss.

They are available from some slightly less reputable sources, but if you're looking to stick to something "over the counter" MJ is probably the best thing out there.

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By *inkForLifeCouple 35 weeks ago

North Shields

Male here - 57 kg down in 11 months. Don'tsee bow anyone can be negative, people want to spout, but my kids love the new me, I love the new me, summer holiday this year was significantly more enjoyable.

Even if I put all of my weight back on, I've had 12+ months of not being ridiculously obese.

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By *on CarlosMan 35 weeks ago

Birkenhead

Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice.

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By *he MinionMan 35 weeks ago

Surrey

Said on breakfast news yesterday morning that the cost of the jab is to go up by 170%..

£370 a month will be tough to maintain for many.

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By *implyfun1Man 35 weeks ago

glasgow


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. "

What a judgemental attitude you have

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan 35 weeks ago

belfast


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. "

How dare you.

The jabs should only be fie a year or two at most. People need to take responsibility for their own bodies

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan 35 weeks ago

belfast


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice.

What a judgemental attitude you have "

True though.

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By *usie pTV/TS 35 weeks ago

taunton

Mmmm the truth is sometimes very hard to swallow and digest unlike junk food.

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By *moothstaffspeepsCouple 35 weeks ago

Stafford


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice.

What a judgemental attitude you have "

Why is it judgemental all the fat people I know are obsessed with food, don’t exercise and live sedentary lives. Don’t cook proper food and have poor diets.

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By *xposedInTheMaleMan 35 weeks ago

Cambridgeshire


"Male here - 57 kg down in 11 months. Don'tsee bow anyone can be negative, people want to spout, but my kids love the new me, I love the new me, summer holiday this year was significantly more enjoyable.

Even if I put all of my weight back on, I've had 12+ months of not being ridiculously obese. "

You won't put the weight back on if you remember how good it feels without it, and use that to motivate yourself to make long-term changes.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 35 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Central

There have been a few posts on them if you're able to search and find them. A lot of people have lost very successfully.

The issue is Trump's pressure on the pharmaceutical companies to decrease prices for Americans and this means that some UK prices are rising.

There will be newer medications adding to these, so there should be more choice.

It's a pity that they are not affordable for all. If I take them, I'll expect to need a maintenance dose for the rest of my life, alongside dietary changes.

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By *oastal1968Man 35 weeks ago

London/Stafford

If you want to be weightless, become an astronaut. 😉😆

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By *couseWoodMan 35 weeks ago

Liverpool

There’s not enough research on them.. some need it, others don’t but the side effects are horrendous.. I know someone who is waiting for their gallbladder to be removed because of these, while they are still taking them

Wish you all the luck whoever takes them, should all be looking into intermediate fasting and autophagy instead of a “quick fix” takes some discipline but it’s do able.

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By *razytimesinloveCouple 35 weeks ago

SW Scotland


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice.

How dare you.

The jabs should only be fie a year or two at most. People need to take responsibility for their own bodies "

Risk of depression and suicide skyrockets after two years on the higher dose age.

If it has taken you over 12months to change your eating habits while on the jabs then the problem is you, either laziness or mentally.

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By *nnCeeWoman 35 weeks ago

East of Eden, West of Hell


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. "

Actually, if you pulled your head out of your own arse and did some research, it's NOT always a choice. There are many reasons a person can be overweight. I never touched McDonald's.

Go and have a look at "Set Point".

And think yourself lucky if you've never had a problem with your weight

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By *aprica2Couple 35 weeks ago

woking

Don't listen to the knob heads on here, the glp1 sets off the triggers that tell your brain your belly is full while eating, they also trigger what ever makes you fancy something, for me normally my brain would be craving some junk, you know you don't need it but psychologically it wants that junk hit, it's addiction.

It's helped me I can walk past the sweets the crisps and crap that I couldn't resist before I can tell myself you don't need it mate, you start to feel full alot easier, I'd smash a meal deal and a chocolate bar for lunch before and still feel like I needed more, now I can eat half a sandwich and a few crisps and that's it, I could do the lot but it allows the discipline to stop and I just bin the rest of if, not hungry in the mornings so skip breakfast get some cardio in light lunch soups etc and a meat n two veg dinner.

Anyone that gives it the eat less move more bollocks has never suffered with any food issue, while yes the statement is true understanding the triggers that lead to eating poorly, stress and other psychological issues taking mounjaro can help break the cycle and lead you into good habits that will last and help keep the weight off.

Started in June lost almost 3st first two fell off now a steady loss, anyone that struggles with weight I seriously suggest it, if you've done all the weight watchers and slimming world and failed give this try.

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By *ingerie lover1TV/TS 35 weeks ago

Cardiff

It is not a choice

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By *lossomTreeWoman 35 weeks ago

Ipswich

There are those who genuinely need them but in my opinion the vast majority on them don't, what they need to do is make more effort to lose weight the old fashioned way.

Light bulb moment for me was admitting to myself why I was obese, it wasn't all the excuses I'd been saying for years it was what I was putting in my mouth. Most won't/don't want to acknowledge where the fault lies so they are destined to fail, seeking a quick fix of these jabs.

You also have to truly want the weight loss more than continuing to eat what is making you obese.

I'm about 6 stone down in 7 years, it's maybe taken me 3-4 to find the right combination of foods which are better for me and keep me fuller for longer.

Listening to my body which means an adequately filling breakfast, and having my biggest meal at lunchtime because that's when my natural appetite is highest. For someone else that will be completely different.

I'm aware the food noise is still there in the background, but it doesn't overpower me any more. I no longer eat one meal while obsessively thinking about the next before I even finish!

I look upon it as lifestyle change not a temporary diet/ increase in activity levels. Making small changes over a long period of time.

I'm firmly of the belief that what you eat has much more impact on weight than exercise.

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By *implyfun1Man 35 weeks ago

glasgow


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. "

Ah so now your saying it’s “generally a choice” after saying it is “by choice”…..

Make your mind up!!

So what about the folk that are obese due to genetics?…… was that their choice then?…….

Smoking is a choice but being obese isn’t always

But it’s clear you are the type that just tars everyone with the same brush

So that makes you judgemental with your head up your arse

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By *ungry CatCouple 35 weeks ago

Belfast


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. "

I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish.

In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities.

Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen.

Missus

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago

I know a lot of people on them even work colleagues in the medical field. However is something very new and takes time to determine a medication as safe and there seems to be a rise in pancreatitis cases which seem to be linked to this jabs.

Also on the other hand people need to be aware that there is no magic in this. There needs to be a lifestyle shift and start choosing healthier options not only because of wanting to look better but more because of wanting to be healthier avoiding future health problems.

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it.

I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish.

In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities.

Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen.

Missus "

Definitely this! Is hard to keep healthy habits in today's day and age but bet you do feel better with more energy and healthier over all. Well done for that is a massive achievement and for doing it naturally which is the best way. Keep it going and remember carrying on with physical activity as well as I see people just starving themselves and that is not really the solution either. Nice balance between good diet and good exercise levels that's the best way!

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By *uvs2watchherCouple 35 weeks ago

newcastle

This is wrong. My.hubby professionally powerlifter its wrong. He took everything. Balderbal h. That's what they give to racehorses for God's sake. This will break down your system then stop on e that happens. There no.more. Just please dont. It's accidental. Easy money for drug companies. Xxx

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By *ungry CatCouple 35 weeks ago

Belfast


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it.

I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish.

In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities.

Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen.

Missus

Definitely this! Is hard to keep healthy habits in today's day and age but bet you do feel better with more energy and healthier over all. Well done for that is a massive achievement and for doing it naturally which is the best way. Keep it going and remember carrying on with physical activity as well as I see people just starving themselves and that is not really the solution either. Nice balance between good diet and good exercise levels that's the best way! "

Honestly the only thing I feel better about is not being too obese to tie my own shoelaces and wearing more flattering clothes that finally fit me.

I absolutely do not have any more energy that I did before (cancer) and I absolutely hate having to plan my meals in advance, spending hours upon hours in the kitchen when everyone else is chilling on the sofa and watching Netflix and I hate the fact that I have to spend even more time trying out new recipes, just not to bore myself to death with the same bland chicken and veg every day while I could be hiking, painting, reading books... God doing anything else but wasting at least one day a week to the kitchen. But yeah, I look kinda hot now and the cancer is shrinking. Yay me 😐

missus

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Like everything it works for some and not others also the possible side effects have to be considered i looked into them as have high blood pressure and diabetes and over weight but unfortunately as I have acute pancreatitis the doctor won't prescribe injections as it to high risk "

Hugs. That's a lot to deal with. Is it just meds for the acute pancreatitis or does diet/ exercise/ relaxation help change help.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Having tried going to the gym and all sorts of healthy eating diets etc etc nothing worked for me that was sustainable

Ok it’s new but on Mounjaro now for 8 weeks and lost 9kg never lost even 1/2 of that in 6 months trying the diet a and exercise stuff

I know it’s expensive but so far it has been worth it

You obviously weren't doing the gym and diet correctly. "

It really isn't that easy for most people, especially come middle age. I've got a dogdy hip so I can't be overdoing it on the treadmill...if I want to be able to walk home. If I don't eat my hormones make me suffer. My neurodivergent brain also gives me disordered eating. It's a two-year waiting list for a trauma assessment and autism support in my local area.

So far, physically I'm healthy according to the GP but if things go wrong, I'm sure they won't hesitate to put me on weight loss drugs and/or weight loss shakes.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Male here - 57 kg down in 11 months. Don'tsee bow anyone can be negative, people want to spout, but my kids love the new me, I love the new me, summer holiday this year was significantly more enjoyable.

Even if I put all of my weight back on, I've had 12+ months of not being ridiculously obese. "

Always good if you can run around with the kids.

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By *WeePurpleDragonCouple 35 weeks ago

East Lothian

How much is a month's supply though

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By *ingerie lover1TV/TS 35 weeks ago

Cardiff

For 5mg of monj is about 150 per month

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. "

Literally took medication (Quetiapine, mood-stabilising anti-psychotic) that made me fat/obese...from December 2014 to July 2023. It took me two years to come off and two years to recover from most of the withdrawal symptoms. I still have insomnia, which doesn't help weight loss. I couldn't come off it until I had completed the intensive therapy with a 3 year waiting list. Covid extended the wait. If I didn't take the medication, the choice was spending all my time in the secure psych unit. So in that case I chose obesity over being mentally unstable.

1. Why Do Antipsychotics Make You Gain Weight? | with Dr. Tracey Marks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIePbzhT8TQ&t=59s

2. Why Do Antipsychotics Make You Gain Weight? | with Dr. Tracey Marks Why Do Antipsychotics Make You Gain Weight? | with Dr. Tracey Marks

Other women I know gained weight from hormones problems like PCOS or one poor lady had a tumour on her thyroid that made her gain 200Lbs!

Everyone is different and Maccies is certainly not a regular feature of my diet.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Mmmm the truth is sometimes very hard to swallow and digest unlike junk food."

Um.. too much junk food screws up my digestion and my immunity so...not the be all and end all of why people have obesity.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice.

What a judgemental attitude you have

Why is it judgemental all the fat people I know are obsessed with food, don’t exercise and live sedentary lives. Don’t cook proper food and have poor diets. "

Um because you know every fat person?

Someone else please deal with this. Too many autistic perimenopausal spoons for me to explain.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"There are those who genuinely need them but in my opinion the vast majority on them don't, what they need to do is make more effort to lose weight the old fashioned way.

Light bulb moment for me was admitting to myself why I was obese, it wasn't all the excuses I'd been saying for years it was what I was putting in my mouth. Most won't/don't want to acknowledge where the fault lies so they are destined to fail, seeking a quick fix of these jabs.

You also have to truly want the weight loss more than continuing to eat what is making you obese.

I'm about 6 stone down in 7 years, it's maybe taken me 3-4 to find the right combination of foods which are better for me and keep me fuller for longer.

Listening to my body which means an adequately filling breakfast, and having my biggest meal at lunchtime because that's when my natural appetite is highest. For someone else that will be completely different.

I'm aware the food noise is still there in the background, but it doesn't overpower me any more. I no longer eat one meal while obsessively thinking about the next before I even finish!

I look upon it as lifestyle change not a temporary diet/ increase in activity levels. Making small changes over a long period of time.

I'm firmly of the belief that what you eat has much more impact on weight than exercise. "

Well said..I have to ignore the negative nancies for now. We say you can't out train a bad diet and to be honest it's figuring out what is a bad diet for you.

I can't go carb-free because my blood sugar will drop too low. I can't do intermittent fasting because my brain stops working with no food. The carnivore diet will spike my cholesterol.

So for me it's some slow-release carbs for breakfast and lunch, lots of protein and healthy snacks and then go light in the evening. Not always possible every day..but there is no way I could go and do HIIT or weightlifting on an empty stomach. My trainers would not be impressed. I just signed up for a menopause course at my local leisure centre so I can get some tips on how to deal with the symptoms and keep active until Christmas break.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it.

Ah so now your saying it’s “generally a choice” after saying it is “by choice”…..

Make your mind up!!

So what about the folk that are obese due to genetics?…… was that their choice then?…….

Smoking is a choice but being obese isn’t always

But it’s clear you are the type that just tars everyone with the same brush

So that makes you judgemental with your head up your arse "

Better you than me.

I can't argue with anyone who I think is ignorant, uneducated or low on IQ/only reads the Daily Mail or only watches TikTok for one minute. I have to just agree to disagree with them and conserve my energy for people who can see different perspectives and are open minded.

They've clearly made up their mind about fat/overweight/obese people unless they become fat themselves through no fault of their own. Only that will teach them.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it.

I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish.

In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities.

Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen.

Missus "

Interesting so smoking has nothing to do with it?

I have fatigue. I don't have the energy to make everything from scratch, even if I want to and when I say fatigue, I mean my brain stops working and the kitchen becomes dangerous. I hurt myself or leave the cooker on if I attempt cooking while fatigued.

It's definitely becoming harder and harder to find quality protein for me that is easy to cook.

I eat a lot of fruit simply because I don't have to cook it. Some of it has to be tinned fruit because I get forgetful and the fresh stuff will go off too quickly.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 35 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"For 5mg of monj is about 150 per month "

I spend more than that on psychotherapy but the psychotherapy is paid for by PIP to keep me out of the psych hospital.

Another commentator said it can be as much as 370 a month.

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By *ungry CatCouple 35 weeks ago

Belfast


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it.

I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish.

In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities.

Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen.

Missus

Interesting so smoking has nothing to do with it?

I have fatigue. I don't have the energy to make everything from scratch, even if I want to and when I say fatigue, I mean my brain stops working and the kitchen becomes dangerous. I hurt myself or leave the cooker on if I attempt cooking while fatigued.

It's definitely becoming harder and harder to find quality protein for me that is easy to cook.

I eat a lot of fruit simply because I don't have to cook it. Some of it has to be tinned fruit because I get forgetful and the fresh stuff will go off too quickly."

As per my oncologist- no, estrogen fed breast cancer and additional metastasis has nothing to do with smoking and everything to do with a faulty gene, diet choices and of course the "privilege" of me being a woman. I'm also not a heavy smoker. Take a puff here and there to keep my sanity more than anything else.

I know what fatigue is and experience it regularly due to a stupid amount of hormone blockers I'm taking. That's why it makes it even more frustrating having to spend time in the kitchen to hopefully be healthier instead of living life outside it 🤷‍♀️

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By *inchyorksMan 35 weeks ago

huddersfield

Yes they work, 4.5 stone dropped in 5months, mental health improved greatly.

My over eating was an eating disorder, I feel healthier and happy, transitioning into exercise now, walking 5k every other day, which would have been impossible 5 months ago.

Although cost increase is frustrating I am still saving because I am not spending money on crap food, takeaways etc, just eating three healthy balanced meals a day.

Hoping that when the time comes to end the jabs the good habits I have formed are easier to maintain than slipping back in the bad habits of old.

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By *on CarlosMan 35 weeks ago

Birkenhead

So basically you were eating crap food which made you fat. That’s avoidable. Now costing a fortune in drugs linked to a massive list of side effects. Your eating disorder was liking crap food. Jeez.

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By *on CarlosMan 35 weeks ago

Birkenhead

PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work.

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By *implyfun1Man 35 weeks ago

glasgow


"PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work. "

So pip should be stopped for “everyone” because “most” on it are wasters?…….

Again your lashing out with your tar brush?…..

You are having a bit of a nightmare here.

You have came on here with a point about being obese then changed your point further down the line.

Now you are on about pip and changed your point in the very next sentence.

Deary me…….

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By *pgroupsexMan 35 weeks ago

Kingston

My partner is a type 2 diabetic and is allergic to corn/maize (the binding agent in many tablets) making it difficult to take most of the more common options. She was prescribed Mounjaro 2.5 a couple of months ago, but even though, in her case you could say it's 'free', the side effects, notably constipation and depression, mean she is not continuing with it (there is more to life). She doesn't have food noise and in her case there was no weight loss. It certainly isn't the panacea many are claiming here and it's clearly more suited to some than others.

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By *ddie7XXXMan 35 weeks ago

wigan

I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x

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By *iss DevilWoman 35 weeks ago

Hiding


"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?"

I highly doubt the cost would come down, in my opinion it would just keep creeping up, as it's a gold mine for pharmaceutical companies. The food we eat, and the bad habits that we formed, are making us more obese, the "easy" solution (at least for some)- weight loss jab! "Wonderful" invention, makes you lose weight quickly without the hard work needed (I'm getting that impression from all the ads that keep popping up online). Side effects? Don't worry about it, enjoy your food and still lose weight with those wonderful jabs that we'll charge you through the nose for. I'm glad they are working for some.

I'll try to manage my type 2 diabetes the "old fashioned" way, and hopefully it will work for me. But good luck to all on the jabs- it is somewhat ironic, though, comparing this to COVID vaccine, that plenty of people jumped on the weight loss jabs bandwagon without much opposition for putting a substance in your body that its long term side effects are still not known.

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By *xposedInTheMaleMan 35 weeks ago

Cambridgeshire


"Dit is somewhat ironic, though, comparing this to COVID vaccine, that plenty of people jumped on the weight loss jabs bandwagon without much opposition for putting a substance in your body that its long term side effects are still not known. "

I think the reality is that people will put any old rubbish in their system as long it's pushed at them for pure profit by some huge company.

But something being given out for free by the government purely because it's been recommended by a group of people who've dedicated their lives to improving the health of others? No way!

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 35 weeks ago

Newry

1O weeks in on MJ.

It works for me. I can't imagine the prices will come down but there's plenty of discounts to be had.

It's not a quick fix, and you can't eat what you want. You still need to be in calorie deficit. You should still aim to hit your macro targets, eat the required amount of fibre, and drink plenty of water. That takes planning and meal prep.

Has it made staying in calorie deficit easier? Absolutely! Do I care about the naysayers? Absolutely not! I'm only halfway to where I want to be and already my life has been transformed.

I work, and I pay for the treatment myself. How I choose to lose weight is nobody else's business.

The great thing about being fat is that when you're fat you're a burden. Yet you do something about it and still there's someone waiting to tear you down 🙄

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By *implyfun1Man 35 weeks ago

glasgow


"1O weeks in on MJ.

It works for me. I can't imagine the prices will come down but there's plenty of discounts to be had.

It's not a quick fix, and you can't eat what you want. You still need to be in calorie deficit. You should still aim to hit your macro targets, eat the required amount of fibre, and drink plenty of water. That takes planning and meal prep.

Has it made staying in calorie deficit easier? Absolutely! Do I care about the naysayers? Absolutely not! I'm only halfway to where I want to be and already my life has been transformed.

I work, and I pay for the treatment myself. How I choose to lose weight is nobody else's business.

The great thing about being fat is that when you're fat you're a burden. Yet you do something about it and still there's someone waiting to tear you down 🙄

Absolutely!!

Stuff the haters and your right there’s always the ones that want to bring folk down!

The jag is working for me and am loving it

Feel so much better about myself for it so what’s to hate about that

"

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By *atnip make me purrWoman 34 weeks ago

Reading

They work but right now they are a lifelong commitment. I have diabetes and so I would be on them for life anyway as they help control blood sugar. But ultimately they are a tool you will have to eat right and exercise. They help dampen down the food noise so it's much easier to make good choices.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 34 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x"

You can prevent muscle loss by weightlifting ( gym or body weight) and increasing protein. My problem is when I eat protein..I struggle to eat enough fibre so still tweaking my perimono diet. Mid 40's here I come in two weeks. Not taking the weight loss drugs unless my GP demands that I do. So far they are not demanding so I will keep increasing weightlifting, stretching my dodgy hip and tweaking my diet.

Everyone else taking the drugs can be monitored by GP or diabetic clinic or if they are paying privately they can pay for a DEXA scan to check the muscle mass to keep muscle and bone density on track. Creatine and fibre supplements help some people.

I'm currently having my legendary "pink soup" oats, peanut butter, soy milk, raspberries, blueberries and protein powder. blended up.

Hits all my macros, calorie-dense, nutrient-dense, easily digestible and 5 minutes to make and kills all my food cravings for 7 hours. Doesn't make my autistic brain spiral and crash out unless I can't find blueberries in the grocery shop online or in person.

I'm not anti-medication as I have taken antidepressants, antibiotics, antivirals and antipsychotics myself. I'm like take only when necessary, as a last resort and closely monitored and in conjunction with other holistic practices.

Like if I take Malaria anti-virals for a tropical holiday, I'm also going to make sure I eat and drink properly, use a mosquito net, wear protective clothing and cover myself in mosquito repellent. I'm not going to do that when I come back to the UK or somewhere with no malaria but I will use it as a precaution against a greater evil/worse condition.

For some people the weight loss drugs are a precaution and prevention against a worse condition. I had a friend who was chubby all her life until we were in our 30s and she said the weight was damaging her health so anyone who wants to be healthier, I can't knock them for that as long as they are under the care of professionals ( she had a trainer)

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By *elaninMaverickWoman 34 weeks ago

near Putney Heath


"PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work. "

You are a bit silly. I've been on since 2012...I have a severe mental health condition that puts me in hospital, is life limited and life threatening if I don't manage it properly.

I have worked for 13 of those years, paying national insurance and paying into 3 pensions which I will not see because with my mental health destroying my physical health it's rare for people like me to live to 67/70 aka retirement age.

So If I use my PIP to stay out of hospital, free up the beds in the secure psych units and free up the ambulance, police times for responding to sections, then I have nothing to be guilty or ashamed about.

I can't magically stop having severe mental health conditions or being autistic. You however, can go volunteer to be a support worker for the mentally and physically disable and see how it is when the shoe is on the other foot.

I have a friend in a wheelchair who had to pay for her own motorised wheelchair with her PIP so her relative carer who has a heart condition, didn't have to push her everywhere.

Let's hope you never become disabled.

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By *ugby 123Couple 34 weeks ago
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"I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x

You can prevent muscle loss by weightlifting ( gym or body weight) .

"

To stop your face looking gaunt?

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple 34 weeks ago

walsall

I did 4 weeks just to try them I lost 2 stone but think was mainly because they made me sick for a couple of days after the jab

Got terrible eggy burps then was sick

Have been to Dr's and he's given me some anti sickness tablets and told ne to use pesto bismal

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By *smith87Man 34 weeks ago

totton

I think they aren't great. Once people stop them what will happen as you can't be on them forever. I've done similar with changing diet and going to gym

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By *iss SinWoman 34 weeks ago

Portchester

Do they work if you don’t hear the food noise because you snack all the time so never feel hungry?

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 34 weeks ago

Newry


"I think they aren't great. Once people stop them what will happen as you can't be on them forever. I've done similar with changing diet and going to gym "

The same as any other way of losing weight if you go back to old habits.

Whilst taking the injections you *should* be in a calorie deficit, changing your diet, and increasing your exercise (if and when you are able).

They don't make you lose weight just by taking them. They work in conjunction with the things I mentioned above.

And you can stay on Mounjaro indefinitely, at a maintenance dose, with monitoring and guidance.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 34 weeks ago

Newry


"I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x

You can prevent muscle loss by weightlifting ( gym or body weight) .

To stop your face looking gaunt?"

No matter how I've lost a significant amount of weight over my lifetime, I don't think there's been a single time I haven't been told my face was looking gaunt

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By *RONMAN16Man 34 weeks ago

Coventry

These jabs are PRIMARILY for diabetics and those with blood sugar inefficiencies. The weight loss is a by product but helps sell better. Those on metformin seem to like them much better.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 34 weeks ago

Newry


"Do they work if you don’t hear the food noise because you snack all the time so never feel hungry?"

I'm not sure it entirely answers your question, but I put off taking them sooner because my overeating has never been because of hunger. There are several dozen other reasons, but never hunger, so I doubted they'd be effective for me. I was wrong. I pretty much have to remind myself to eat most days (although my tracking app does prompt me too). I've no desire to snack, and prefer to concentrate on three (or four smaller) nutritious meals per day that hit my macro and fibre targets. I also can't do volume so it takes a bit of planning to get the nutrients in.

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By *recticWoman 34 weeks ago

taunton


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. "

Scientifically proven that it’s not. Less calories in more calories out, easy yeah but Up to 70 percent of the contributing factor is genetics, so your will power is no better than the fat person you’re looking down your nose at. You’re turning something that is a complex biological issue into a moral one to feel better about yourself. Sooooooo give yourself a pat on the back and go read up so you don’t sound quite like you haven’t read anything about nutrition in the last 50 years.

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By *recticWoman 34 weeks ago

taunton


"These jabs are PRIMARILY for diabetics and those with blood sugar inefficiencies. The weight loss is a by product but helps sell better. Those on metformin seem to like them much better."

It’s been licensed for obesity. Which in turn is going to stop people developing type 2 diabetes.

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By *enelope2UWoman 34 weeks ago

Doesn't matter cant block distances

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By *enelope2UWoman 34 weeks ago

Doesn't matter cant block distances

Cant afford to be on them, I don't qualify for benefits dont have a dual income, cant mooch off parents/no roomates or dead relatives whove oassed on fortunes

so unfortunately I have to do the exercise and food way. The only thing that works for my body is low carb and 10hour fasts.

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By (user no longer on site) 34 weeks ago

Just neen prescribed them for diabetes any side effects I may see ?

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By *implyfun1Man 34 weeks ago

glasgow


"Just neen prescribed them for diabetes any side effects I may see ?"

Everyone is different

I have genuinely not had one side effect at all even when moving up the dose each month.

But I know others who have felt a little sickly on them.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 34 weeks ago

Newry


"Just neen prescribed them for diabetes any side effects I may see ?

Everyone is different

I have genuinely not had one side effect at all even when moving up the dose each month.

But I know others who have felt a little sickly on them.

"

As above, little to no side effects for me either. It does slow down your digestion though so it's advisable to stay well hydrated and have plenty of fibre in your diet. I occasionally might have to give the poo a little nudge with laxatives (which I'm prescribed anyway due to the side effects of another medication I take), or a stool softener when I know there might be a "challenging" poo on the horizon

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By (user no longer on site) 34 weeks ago

They are appetite suppressants, yes they will reduce your eating and possibly change your habits. Once you stop using them, unless you have truly got in top of the bad habits, the appetite will come back and the weight will return.

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By *litterbombKateWoman 34 weeks ago

Guildford

I know you meant weightloss jabs, but every time I open the forum and this is on the preview of the virus tab, I can't help but wish i could float away like a balloon with a weightless jab 🤭🩷 I get a little smile each time

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By *eturner65Man 34 weeks ago

walkden


"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice.

Scientifically proven that it’s not. Less calories in more calories out, easy yeah but Up to 70 percent of the contributing factor is genetics, so your will power is no better than the fat person you’re looking down your nose at. You’re turning something that is a complex biological issue into a moral one to feel better about yourself. Sooooooo give yourself a pat on the back and go read up so you don’t sound quite like you haven’t read anything about nutrition in the last 50 years. "

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By *ackformore100Man 34 weeks ago

Tin town


"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?"

In 10 years time they will be on sale in wetherspoons and outside primary school gates and as an extra in your just eat order. Buy a monster burger and get 20% off your weight loss jab.

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By *usie pTV/TS 34 weeks ago

taunton

There is a much cheaper solution, drink a shot glass full of extra virgin olive oil, organically grown and preferably from an olive grove in the foothills of a volcano, the polyphenols contained in this will work miracles, weight will drop of your health will improve.

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By *ardleedsMan 34 weeks ago

Leeds

I guess like any fad diet as soon as you stop injecting you'll get you appetite back and the weight will pile back on.

Plus what side effects do the jabs have?

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By *ortheastFarmerMan 34 weeks ago

Northumberland

Coming from someone with a background into nutrition and sport science, they will work IF done right.

There's only 1 way weight loss works and its calories in v calories needed. There's no arguing against thermodynamics and metabolic rates.

The method is to use it along side a calorie deficit, increased exercise rate, increase protein intake and changing your habits like portion size. Meaning when you ease off the stuff, you can maintain easy.

The issues im seeing on a regular basis is people wanting a quick fix, putting a high dosage when not needed, not changing habits, eating crap etc. There the ones that when the come off are just going to pile it back on.

This is your choice, I know alot of people dont like the bloke becuase of how straight talking and no bs attitude, but Richie at TeamRH has a brilliant app that incorporates the weightloss injections and costs less then £10 a month. Worth looking into

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By *izandpaulCouple 34 weeks ago

merseyside

They are an excellent tool in a weight loss plan.

But, they don't dissolve donuts.

Will the price come down?

Not in the foreseeable future but differing brands do offer a discount but these other brands tend to act differently so if used in conjunction with diabetes, maybe not for you.

Like always, seek medical advice from a medical professional first, not a swingers site.

Each person's journey through health is entirely different.

Will you put weight back on when finishing medication?

Maybe, depends on the person, some will enjoy the new life not being obese and never go back to their old ways, some will pile the weight and more in a very short time and it will be back to square one.

If dieting in general or adhering to a decent high fibre diet is difficult then chronic constipation will be an issue while on this medication and something, if not controlled, can have issues.

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By *ortheastFarmerMan 34 weeks ago

Northumberland

Also just going to add, Genetic obesity is a different ball game, not as straight forward. But still possible to loose weight, just needs a different approach, that works along side a standard calorie deficit.

Same as PCOS, Diabetes etc. All achievable just need a slightly changed approach.

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By (user no longer on site) 34 weeks ago

I am trying the patches that are available. I can't see them being as effective as the jab. But for cost they are dirt cheap. Only on second day. So will have to see over the month. Just can't justify the jab price.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman 34 weeks ago

Reading

There is some rather dodgy advice here. Please see your gp before starting any weight loss regime. Many gp practices have specific weight-loss teams.

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By *ortheastFarmerMan 34 weeks ago

Northumberland


"There is some rather dodgy advice here. Please see your gp before starting any weight loss regime. Many gp practices have specific weight-loss teams. "

You think this advice is bad... should see some of the face book groups, where people are saying does the next morning to counter the Chinese takeaway the night before. Or people giving advice on how to lie to get it, even seen someone comment about drinking it so its more effective.

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By *on CarlosMan 34 weeks ago

Birkenhead

Just avoid it. Eat less.

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By *implyfun1Man 34 weeks ago

glasgow


"Just avoid it. Eat less. "

Hahaha

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By *issmorganWoman 34 weeks ago

Calderdale innit


"PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work. "

Wow how judgemental and rude are you?. It's not easy to get pip and people have rigorous assessments for it.

My partner works from home & gets it, he has ms, so not a waster at all, thanks.

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By *eeman90Man 34 weeks ago

Colchester

Curious about it, main concerns is what it does in the long term and what happens if stop taking it? Trying intermittent fasting first

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By (user no longer on site) 34 weeks ago

Just eat less and fuck more?

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By *otsossieMan 33 weeks ago

Hard.shoulder of the M1


"Wow how judgemental and rude are you?. It's not easy to get pip and people have rigorous assessments for it.

My partner works from home & gets it, he has ms, so not a waster at all, thanks. "

It’s become fashionable to behave like an unfeeling arsehole towards other people.

I don’t know how we got here.

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By *quirrel!Man 33 weeks ago

Visiting Manchester

Sitting is the new smoking! Along with ultra processed foods it’s no wonder people are taking these jabs!

I would question the long term side effects compared to balanced diet and exercise!

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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago


"Sitting is the new smoking! Along with ultra processed foods it’s no wonder people are taking these jabs!

I would question the long term side effects compared to balanced diet and exercise! "

This! I always thought people should be more active to the point that I struggle to find a partner that matches my level of activity.

To proof wether a medication is safe you need at least 10 years of human use to obtain some non biased data. So we will know about the side effects in about that time.

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By *ichardgeorgeMan 33 weeks ago

sheffield

Working for me lost 10kg in 8 weeks

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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago


"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?"

Yes and no and no. Depends on if you're looking for a quick fix or actually prepared to make changes ie use them as a tool to make healthier choices. Worked for me until other (unrelated) health issues meant I had to stop. Of 4.5 stone lost I've regained 3-4lbs over 3 months.

Personally I think big pharma are too greedy for costs to reduced over time

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By *illxxMan 28 weeks ago

motherwell

Big waste of money. Most people that take it out the weight back on once they stop taking it. A change in diet and exercise and lifestyle will be better. My personal opinion

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By *STAXxMan 28 weeks ago

Nottingham

My opinion is it could be beneficial if you can make the lifestyle changes and diet changes and stick to them

Taking away your appetite will certainly work while your on it that will make you lose weight

But some of that weight will be muscle mass

If you then come off it and don't have your diet and lifestyle tied down you'll pile the weight straight back on and have less muscle mass to burn off those calories so more of it will end up as fat.

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By (user no longer on site) 27 weeks ago


"Sitting is the new smoking! Along with ultra processed foods it’s no wonder people are taking these jabs!

I would question the long term side effects compared to balanced diet and exercise! "

I agree entirely. I used to be a junk food addiction and bloated uo to 24st. I joined slimming world and lost 8st in 18months. My attitude to food has completely changed and never touch processed or junk foods. And exercise every day .

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By *asilForty77Man 27 weeks ago

a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road

Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way.

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By *oewiththeflowMan 27 weeks ago

West Coast

Stop eating. You wont be fat.

Simples

Save money on jabs. Dont take them!

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 27 weeks ago

Newry


"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way."

The medication alone does not make you lose weight. You still need to be in calorie deficit. You should still be eating healthily. You should be also be exercising/increasing your activity levels.

Regardless, does it matter if was a lazy option? If it gives someone back their health and their life, is that not a good thing? Is it not enough that people who need to lose weight are often judged fat and lazy, then to judge the method they use to improve their lives?

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 27 weeks ago

Newry


"Stop eating. You wont be fat.

Simples

Save money on jabs. Dont take them!"

You might be dead though...

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By *ornyCouple2049Couple 27 weeks ago

Cockermouth


"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?"

For some people, yes. J for instance struggles with food having had eating disorders. She has spit on weight and struggle to get by without eating as life is making her miserable in a few ways currently, despite our best efforts.

I (N) on the other hand, just cut calories by a lot, started walking an hour a day and does some small calisthenics exercises few days a week at home and have dropped 32kg in around 6 months. I have a few stretch marks but the majority of my skin has gone back to normal, my chest is almost normal, my belly pouch and love handles have shrunk (considerably ) and I have gone from 3XL shirts to XL in most cases. Also drinking lots more water has helped

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By *en_kMan 27 weeks ago

North West

The biggest side effect I've experienced is the loss of love for eating. I’m on semaglutoid alongside glic for T2 diabetes. I wasn’t looking to lose weight (about 4kg down in a year) just better control BS

2 good friends (fems) have been using the jabs for over a year. Both have lost around 3 stone and the boost in confidence helped by that has pushed a more active, positive lifestyle.

Related GLP-1 hormone research began in the 1970s; semaglutide development started in the early 2000s. So arguments about it being a new drug are unfounded.

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By *ins and secretsWoman 27 weeks ago

Glasgow and SW Scotland

I lost 3 stone with MJ then it suddenly made me really ill and ive not been able to use it again

Im about to try wegovy

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple 27 weeks ago

Staffordshire


"I’d love a weightless jab…to be able to float around like an astronaut "

Is that you Sam ?

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By *ertcoupleCouple 27 weeks ago

Welwyn Garden City

Mother was on it and it's wrecked her kidneys.. may need dialysis . So be wary.

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By *oewiththeflowMan 27 weeks ago

West Coast


"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run.

Will the cost of them go down in time or not?"

It is Halloween after all

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By *w funwifeWoman 27 weeks ago

near taunton

hubby lost 4 stone in 3 months then ended up in critical care with severe paneritis and a heart attack caused by the jab this was when the jab first came out he now no longer allowed the jabs as they caused the problem so bear in mind a small percentage can and will suffer severe pancreris /liver/kidney/heart problems and been well reported recently

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 27 weeks ago

Central Scotland

Been on Mounjaro since June and lost nearly 3 stone and feeling great, no side effects whatsoever.

That said, people with underlying health conditions need to be careful and consult their GP before starting.

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By *otoBlue69Man 27 weeks ago

Stockport

Because I struggled to digest meat I went vegetarian. I have lost 30kg and gone from a 42 inch waist to a 34 inch waist.No side effects and I am saving shed loads of money.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 27 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Central

I think it's reasonable to expect to have to take some form of them for the rest of your life, if you lose a lot of weight with them. There will be newer versions of them over time, as they are so effective and have bigger benefits than just weight loss. It's amazing the medical profession on how other benefits accrue from them. I've not taken them yet but plan to.

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By *inkForLifeCouple 26 weeks ago

North Shields


"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way."

Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg.

Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier!

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By *ynecplCouple 26 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

A number of our friends have done the jabs and yes they work but they don't educate people on things like portion control and healthy eating so as soon as they came off the jab they piled the weight back on.

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way.

Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg.

Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier!"

You do realise that many people who are on MJ have been on umpteen other diets which haven't worked for them? There never has been a foolproof way to lose weight before now.

The money involved alone suggests it's far from an "easy" way for many either.

I'd suggest people use it because it's proven to be remarkably effective above and beyond all other diets.

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"A number of our friends have done the jabs and yes they work but they don't educate people on things like portion control and healthy eating so as soon as they came off the jab they piled the weight back on."

Of course it does, you have to change your approach to food otherwise you won't lose weight.

The jab itself isn't what causes you to lose weight, it supresses your appetite to take away the food cravings whilst you adjust your own diet to a calorie deficit, high protein diet.

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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago

Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things

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By *orksfuncoupleCouple 26 weeks ago

huddersfield


"Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things "

Drink lots of water and eat plenty of protein, listen to your body, not had any side effects here, other than dropping 5 stone since April

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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago

Wow been told lots of protein and shakes I do go to the gym don't want to lose muscle

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things "

Listen to your doctor firsr and foremost.

There's online tools that calculate your BMI and how much calories you should be eating, you are aiming for around 500 cals less than your recommended daily intake. Keep you're protein intake high, and drink plenty water.

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"

Drink lots of water and eat plenty of protein, listen to your body, not had any side effects here, other than dropping 5 stone since April"

Well done!

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By *inkForLifeCouple 26 weeks ago

North Shields


"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way.

Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg.

Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier!

You do realise that many people who are on MJ have been on umpteen other diets which haven't worked for them? There never has been a foolproof way to lose weight before now.

The money involved alone suggests it's far from an "easy" way for many either.

I'd suggest people use it because it's proven to be remarkably effective above and beyond all other diets."

Yep, that's my point, it works and it's so so easy compared to every other option available.

I don't understand why people get so upset at being told they are taking the easy option. I am proud of my progress and will happily tell anyone that's it's been an extremely enjoyable and easy experience to lose 60kg. Why that's controversial, I'm not sure.

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By *hevintagecoupleCouple 26 weeks ago

Braintree

Sometimes, doing things the hard way results in more personal growth, and in the long run, more benefits.

Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life.

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By *ortyairCouple 26 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Sometimes, doing things the hard way results in more personal growth, and in the long run, more benefits.

Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life."

Aren't they initially type 2 diabetic medication, Mrs x

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By *inkForLifeCouple 26 weeks ago

North Shields


"Sometimes, doing things the hard way results in more personal growth, and in the long run, more benefits.

Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life."

Definitely agree however most people who lose significant amounts do change their relationship with food.

Eating is no longer purely a pleasure or hobby. It's 90% a necessity and 10% a hobby. I still go out and eat shit but the difference is that's not the norm.

I know quite a few taking mounjaro who've not changed their diet and they don't really lose anything significant.

The reality is, even if I put all my 60kg back on in the next year, I've still had around 2 years where my kids have been noticed I've been less fat, More agile, walk more etc. I honestly hope not to put it on, but those 2 year will have been worth every penny.

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By *ex MexicoMan 26 weeks ago

North West

Our culture suffers from two compounding issues, first piss-poor nutritional education and second a massive commercial drive to push low-quality highly-processed foods.

There will be some people whose circumstances render them immune to those issues, but they are fortunate and should be careful not to judge those who fall victim to them. A huge proportion of disordered eaters are carrying forward a problem they acquired in childhood. It's almost impossible to reverse that kind of dysfunction.

Of course it's true that "eat less, move more" is a technically effective way to lose weight, but without considering context it's about the same as yelling "get better" at a cancer patient.

There are non-negligible risks and side-effects associated with taking any of the range of appetite-suppressing jabs currently available, probably the most significant of which is that without in parallel establishing a more sustainable relationship with food and activity, the individual will be likely to regain the weight lost once the drug is discontinued.

However the same can be said of any diet plan, and plans which focus exclusively on nutrition and exercise are rarely effective. So even considering the risks, the fact these drugs represent an opportunity for so many people to bring their body mass back to a healthy range should be taken seriously and not dismissed as some sort of easy route for people who lack the character to lose weight the "old-fashioned" way that a minority are fortunate enough to be able to achieve.

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By *lossomTreeWoman 26 weeks ago

Ipswich

Another problem is there is little financial incentive to undertake deep research and medical test those who do lose significant amounts of weight and sustain that weight loss over time by diet and exercise (though I prefer the term lifestyle changes and developing new habits).

The quick fix diet industry and weight loss jabs are very profitable in a capitalist society.

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By *ess King tvTV/TS 26 weeks ago

KING'S LYNN

They are brilliant.. until you stop.. weight comes back ten fold

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"

Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life."

As has already been pointed out, you have to change your relationship to food otherwise you won't lose weight on these jabs, so your assumption is wrong.

The jabs themselves DO NOT make you lose weight. A lot of people just can't grasp that.

When people come off this treatment, they may then find it is a lot easier to control their weight as their attitude to food has changed. Not everone of course.

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By *ottom charlieMan 26 weeks ago

Washington


"Myself and hubster have benefited from them.

I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from.

It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite.

We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing.

We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them."

i hope you do not loose anything off your sexy boobs,,, it would be such a shame to see them reduced...

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By *ex MexicoMan 26 weeks ago

North West


"Another problem is there is little financial incentive to undertake deep research and medical test those who do lose significant amounts of weight and sustain that weight loss over time by diet and exercise (though I prefer the term lifestyle changes and developing new habits).

The quick fix diet industry and weight loss jabs are very profitable in a capitalist society. "

That's not necessarily true, there are decades of research regarding "natural" body recomposition, both as part of public health efforts and from within the diet industries seeking to develop products that replicate the processes in play.

The issue is that successful "natural" body recomposition requires an intersection of genetic and psychological factors that aren't consistently replicable either as a health programme or as a marketable product.

The research tells us, essentially, that people are too different on an individual basis to say that what works for person A is certain or even likely to work for person B, even if their starting circumstances are the same.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 26 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Central


"Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things "

I'd encourage you to communicate fully with your prescriber, as they know you and your medical/physical history.

Just take it steadily, as adopting a new lifestyle will be multifaceted, alongside your injections. Good luck!

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By *ack again 87Man 26 weeks ago

bolton

I think they are amazing. I have recently lost 40kg

20kg was on my own but the last 20kg with the help on manjaro

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By *rego69Man 26 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"The fun of auto correct and not reading before pressing post. "

I find it’s my fat thumb and fingers in the first place.

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By *ustagirl..69Woman 26 weeks ago

West Lothian

I was on Mounjaro from September last year to June this year and lost about 30kg in total after managing to lose 19 myself. For years I’d been losing and gaining the same 10-15kg so when I felt my motivation starting to slip again I have them a try. Honestly, it was so easy for me. My appetite suppression was insane and I just didn’t crave all the rubbish I normally ate before so the weight just fell off. No calorie counting, just healthier choices and smaller portions.

I never deprived myself of anything, if I wanted chocolate or pizza for example I’d have some, just a far smaller portion than before.

I’ve been off for 5 months now and keeping it off has been a lot more difficult than I expected. I’d say I definitely changed my attitude towards food but I’d also class myself as a binge eater, particularly when I’m stressed or having a rubbish time so that’s really been challenging to try and not give in to without the appetite suppression from the jabs.

I’ve put about 8kg back on since stopping but to be honest I was a bit on the scranwy side with a bmi of 19 by the time I weaned back down and off over a couple months. I’m sitting at a bmi of 22.5 now, have climbed 30 munros this year and have recently joined the gym and try to go 4/5 days a week. I’d like to get about 4kg back off but doing it with normal diet and exercise.

They really are an incredible tool and work better for some than others, I know a few folk on them who have lost very little because they actually haven’t really changed their eating or added in any exercise and not everyone gets the same level of appetite suppression as I did.

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By *ex MexicoMan 26 weeks ago

North West


"I was on Mounjaro from September last year to June this year and lost about 30kg in total after managing to lose 19 myself. For years I’d been losing and gaining the same 10-15kg so when I felt my motivation starting to slip again I have them a try. Honestly, it was so easy for me. My appetite suppression was insane and I just didn’t crave all the rubbish I normally ate before so the weight just fell off. No calorie counting, just healthier choices and smaller portions.

I never deprived myself of anything, if I wanted chocolate or pizza for example I’d have some, just a far smaller portion than before.

I’ve been off for 5 months now and keeping it off has been a lot more difficult than I expected. I’d say I definitely changed my attitude towards food but I’d also class myself as a binge eater, particularly when I’m stressed or having a rubbish time so that’s really been challenging to try and not give in to without the appetite suppression from the jabs.

I’ve put about 8kg back on since stopping but to be honest I was a bit on the scranwy side with a bmi of 19 by the time I weaned back down and off over a couple months. I’m sitting at a bmi of 22.5 now, have climbed 30 munros this year and have recently joined the gym and try to go 4/5 days a week. I’d like to get about 4kg back off but doing it with normal diet and exercise.

They really are an incredible tool and work better for some than others, I know a few folk on them who have lost very little because they actually haven’t really changed their eating or added in any exercise and not everyone gets the same level of appetite suppression as I did."

Wow, that's impressive and the results speak for themselves. Congratulations.

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"I was on Mounjaro from September last year to June this year and lost about 30kg in total after managing to lose 19 myself. For years I’d been losing and gaining the same 10-15kg so when I felt my motivation starting to slip again I have them a try. Honestly, it was so easy for me. My appetite suppression was insane and I just didn’t crave all the rubbish I normally ate before so the weight just fell off. No calorie counting, just healthier choices and smaller portions.

I never deprived myself of anything, if I wanted chocolate or pizza for example I’d have some, just a far smaller portion than before.

I’ve been off for 5 months now and keeping it off has been a lot more difficult than I expected. I’d say I definitely changed my attitude towards food but I’d also class myself as a binge eater, particularly when I’m stressed or having a rubbish time so that’s really been challenging to try and not give in to without the appetite suppression from the jabs.

I’ve put about 8kg back on since stopping but to be honest I was a bit on the scranwy side with a bmi of 19 by the time I weaned back down and off over a couple months. I’m sitting at a bmi of 22.5 now, have climbed 30 munros this year and have recently joined the gym and try to go 4/5 days a week. I’d like to get about 4kg back off but doing it with normal diet and exercise.

They really are an incredible tool and work better for some than others, I know a few folk on them who have lost very little because they actually haven’t really changed their eating or added in any exercise and not everyone gets the same level of appetite suppression as I did."

Congratulations, and thanks for the insight when you stopped, I still have a long way to go before I get to that stage.

You are looking great!

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By *urvy-blue83Woman 26 weeks ago

Shire Oak

I’ve been on them since 16th February and have lost 9stone 4.9lbs so yes they help if you also put the work in.

The jabs don’t make you loose weight as such they are just a tool you use to help you get there.

I still have to count my calories, drink my water and exercise and when I can.

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"I’ve been on them since 16th February and have lost 9stone 4.9lbs so yes they help if you also put the work in.

The jabs don’t make you loose weight as such they are just a tool you use to help you get there.

I still have to count my calories, drink my water and exercise and when I can.

"

Wow that's impressive, well done!

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By *ustagirl..69Woman 26 weeks ago

West Lothian

Coming off was hard, it was like a switch was flipped and I was absolutely starving all the time at first but it’s much better now. If I could have afforded it I would have stayed on a low maintenance dose a bit longer, so I would say don’t rush to come off until you really feel ready.

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By *ustagirl..69Woman 26 weeks ago

West Lothian

9 stone is insane, well done you! That’s amazing!

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By *eepee25Couple 26 weeks ago

South Yorkshire

I lost about 2 stone in 8 months. Came off them and pilled it all straight back on. Food noise was back worse than ever. Started back on them 2 months ago and it’s just like injecting water

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 26 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Central


"I lost about 2 stone in 8 months. Came off them and pilled it all straight back on. Food noise was back worse than ever. Started back on them 2 months ago and it’s just like injecting water "

, injecting water? Isn't it working again yet? You'd done really well

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By *urvy-blue83Woman 26 weeks ago

Shire Oak


"9 stone is insane, well done you! That’s amazing!"

Thank you xxx I’ve got 6.5lbs to go to get to my goal weight and then I can start working back down

When I have finished this pen I have another 4 months of pens in my fridge that I will use to wean myself back to 2.5mg and then I may stay on that for a while as I don’t want to risk putting it all back on.

I’m also insulin resistant so it’s helped massively with that as I was on the turn for type 2

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By *urvy-blue83Woman 26 weeks ago

Shire Oak


"I lost about 2 stone in 8 months. Came off them and pilled it all straight back on. Food noise was back worse than ever. Started back on them 2 months ago and it’s just like injecting water

, injecting water? Isn't it working again yet? You'd done really well "

I’m hearing more of this from people who have stopped and then restarted - their bodies just haven’t responded like they did the first time, installed for weeks and weeks and considered having a few weeks break but I’m so glad I didn’t

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By *ustagirl..69Woman 26 weeks ago

West Lothian


"9 stone is insane, well done you! That’s amazing!

Thank you xxx I’ve got 6.5lbs to go to get to my goal weight and then I can start working back down

When I have finished this pen I have another 4 months of pens in my fridge that I will use to wean myself back to 2.5mg and then I may stay on that for a while as I don’t want to risk putting it all back on.

I’m also insulin resistant so it’s helped massively with that as I was on the turn for type 2 "

I wish I’d stayed on it a wee but longer but I was buying a house so unfortunately that had to take priority adult life haha!

Aw that’s good too, I think people really underestimate the difference it can make to your life. I’m in the best shape I’ve ever been now and I genuinely don’t think I’d have ever got here without it.

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By *eepee25Couple 26 weeks ago

South Yorkshire

Yeh had a a few months break as I had a funeral to pay for and just couldn’t afford it.. I’m back up to 5mg and I have the odd day I feel full but the rest I still feel so hungry. Been back on it about 8 weeks and not lost a single lb. I’ve a 7.5 in the fridge so I’ll try that next week and if nothing happens I’m gonna come off it and try a different one. So disheartening when it’s so expensive

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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago


"Myself and hubster have benefited from them.

I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from.

It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite.

We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing.

We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them."

Can I ask a serious question without sounding rude.

My wife put on loads of weight after an injury and op.

She is thinking about them but like yourself can’t exercise now. So my question.

You have lost 3 stone which is amazing. But if you can’t exercise and it’s quite quick is the much loose skin ?

Sorry if that sounds rude.

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By *ippyandBungle2Man 26 weeks ago

Central Scotland


"Coming off was hard, it was like a switch was flipped and I was absolutely starving all the time at first but it’s much better now. If I could have afforded it I would have stayed on a low maintenance dose a bit longer, so I would say don’t rush to come off until you really feel ready."

Yeah I've read a lot about gradually reducing the dosage back to base level and maintain that until you're ready. Still a while away for me yet.

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By *and12Couple 26 weeks ago

flint

We are both on it and lost 10 stone between us

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By *ex MexicoMan 26 weeks ago

North West


"Myself and hubster have benefited from them.

I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from.

It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite.

We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing.

We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them.

Can I ask a serious question without sounding rude.

My wife put on loads of weight after an injury and op.

She is thinking about them but like yourself can’t exercise now. So my question.

You have lost 3 stone which is amazing. But if you can’t exercise and it’s quite quick is the much loose skin ?

Sorry if that sounds rude. "

Loose skin contracting over weight loss will really depend on the amount of weight to lose, plus other factors such as age.

For example a super-obese person of any age would expect to have loose skin after significant weight loss.

Whereas an overweight younger person losing a few stone might see very little to no loose skin versus an older person with less skin elasticity.

Genetics also play a part, as does the length of time the person has been overweight for.

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By *fife22Woman 21 weeks ago

fife

Ive lost 2 stone since sept, so many side effects got to decide if I want to stay on them much longer

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By *lchemyMan 21 weeks ago

Midlands

I've just started them a few weeks on 2.5mg no bad side effects yet but the dose is low, weight is dropping but also eating healthy to in conjunction with them.

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By *eedsmale36Man 21 weeks ago

Leeds


"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it.

I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish.

In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities.

Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen.

Missus

Definitely this! Is hard to keep healthy habits in today's day and age but bet you do feel better with more energy and healthier over all. Well done for that is a massive achievement and for doing it naturally which is the best way. Keep it going and remember carrying on with physical activity as well as I see people just starving themselves and that is not really the solution either. Nice balance between good diet and good exercise levels that's the best way!

Honestly the only thing I feel better about is not being too obese to tie my own shoelaces and wearing more flattering clothes that finally fit me.

I absolutely do not have any more energy that I did before (cancer) and I absolutely hate having to plan my meals in advance, spending hours upon hours in the kitchen when everyone else is chilling on the sofa and watching Netflix and I hate the fact that I have to spend even more time trying out new recipes, just not to bore myself to death with the same bland chicken and veg every day while I could be hiking, painting, reading books... God doing anything else but wasting at least one day a week to the kitchen. But yeah, I look kinda hot now and the cancer is shrinking. Yay me 😐

missus "

You look amazing, well done you

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By *ingerie lover1TV/TS 21 weeks ago

Cardiff

I am still on it. It works and 17kg down Nd 10 kg more. To be in a size 10

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By *otandDashCouple 21 weeks ago

farnham

Would love to shift a couple of stone for better general health and the extra mobility it would bring , Not sure of the long-term risks though .

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By *orthern StarsCouple 20 weeks ago

Durham

I could really do with the weight loss as healthy eating and exercise just doesn't work for me.

I do worry about the long term side effects though.

Ruby

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By *inkyukxxxCouple 20 weeks ago

Nottinghamshire

Did it briefly last year lost about 1.5 stone kept it off and will be back doing it for maybe 3-4 months after Xmas to shift another stone or two nothing major. They really helped me but side effects aren’t great

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By *ouseofhoneyCouple 20 weeks ago

Not in Uk anymore

Are all the people who are taking semaglutide diagnosed with type 2 diabetes or just doing it purely to lose weight?

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By *aithlessangelCouple 20 weeks ago

Lanarkshire

Changed my life. I have an autoimmune disease that doesn't really have any treatment options, since I started mounjaro my fatigue is gone.

I was speaking to the consultant I see about tirzepatide and we really are at the tip of the iceberg of the application of these drugs. Especially things like mounjaro. Of course they have their risks and side effects but they also have many benefits in reducing inflammation. Over time they'll just develop them more until they are better and side effects are reduced.

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By *orow2Man 20 weeks ago

Hexham

Been greatfor me lost 22kg with no side effects.

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By *eautifulChaosWoman 20 weeks ago

Nr Hickleton

I lost 6st from last Dec til May, I've put about a st back on since stopping but going to start again in the new year and see if I can get about 3st off. Absolutely a life changer for me, with zero side effects.

Hasn't given me more confidence like I wanted it to but health wise its been great for me.

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By *uriousCouple20224Couple 20 weeks ago

nottingham


"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way.

Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg.

Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier!

You do realise that many people who are on MJ have been on umpteen other diets which haven't worked for them? There never has been a foolproof way to lose weight before now.

The money involved alone suggests it's far from an "easy" way for many either.

I'd suggest people use it because it's proven to be remarkably effective above and beyond all other diets."

There has always been a fool proof way to loose weight. It's called a calorie deficit. It's just really difficult if you don't have the will power or want to make lasting lifestyle changes.

The jabs are great, fair play to anyone that wants to take them but they do come with risks as some of the posters have mentioned you have had first hand experience with.

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By *uckurcumMan 20 weeks ago

Bishop Auckland

Wait 5 years or so and all the law firms will be advertising class action law suits for people that took the jabs ....

Make a change from diesel cars ... Ppi...hp on cars etc ...

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By *eekyTattsCoupleCouple 20 weeks ago

Tyne and Wear

I used them in Jan till June and lost 2 and half stone.

I don’t regret them using them, however I am needing an op to remove my gallbladder.

I had to stop using them earlier than intended due to the issues it was causing my gallbladder and a stomach ulcer due to the quick weight loss.

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By *abioMan 20 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I have been taking MJ since beginning September.. so far I have lost 23kg,

For it it was the food noise that disappeared which meant I didn’t want…. Anytime I feel hungry, orange or lemon squash, done…

Salad is now my cheat food… so I can do so many things with it…. I just cut up chicken and grill the chunks with a salad …

It’s not the be all and end all.. but It helps you make better decisions

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By (user no longer on site) 20 weeks ago

A flu jab, is merely papering over the cracks. The only way to reduce your weight is by controlling your consumption, with exercise thrown in.

That said, it is more difficult for some people to control their diet and weight because some people are naturally drawn to food than others.

I think that if you belong to the group of people who like to eat, then just embrace your body, rather than fight and struggle against it.

Personally, I don't find fat people attractive, but that's a personal choice, in the same way that some people don't like tall, or hairy, or short, or whatever.

There's someone for all of us.

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By *urvy-blue83Woman 20 weeks ago

Shire Oak

I’m working my way down the doses now, I’m actually half a stone under my goal weight and have lost 10stone 7lbs

I’ve had to really give my head a wobble about coming off as you do get worried but I know that as my appetite returns I’ve just got to stay strong, stick to my kcals and keep going

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By *adyKarmennTVTV/TS 20 weeks ago

Dublin

2 of my friends are on them! One has lost over 6st since June and now on the lowest dose possible

Think he is gone to far if I’m honest but we can see his old eating habits starting to creep back in!

The other has lost 18lbs since October and going good! Got it to easy if I’m honest!

I’m all for it but it’s what happens after! I lost 11lbs myself just from eating more and walking? I have more control on what I’m doing but I’d not trust myself if I went that route

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