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I am just baffled, how blind some people are to what is really going on around them. The fact is, once a virus exists it never goes away, it’s how our bodies adapt to it, once something‘s created it can never be got rid of, just tell me where does it go |
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Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms  |
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"Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms "
I think it's going to become a seasonal virus now, which is to expected I suppose. |
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It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise! |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise!"
Not if you're working in care. We are still expected to test, as we have service users who are clinically vulnerable. Last year, in October, we had at least 10 staff and service users off at the same time, with symptoms. |
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By *ugby 123Couple 33 weeks ago
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"Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms
I think it's going to become a seasonal virus now, which is to expected I suppose. "
It isn't seasonal, it seems an all year round one |
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By *ugby 123Couple 33 weeks ago
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The context would only be lost if you talk about the removed posts which we are not going to do. Most people will be aware something has been removed and the ones who read them will know why as your post proves.
Lets get back to the OP now please |
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By *edhead72 OP Man 33 weeks ago
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"The context would only be lost if you talk about the removed posts which we are not going to do. Most people will be aware something has been removed and the ones who read them will know why as your post proves.
Lets get back to the OP now please "
Think it was a bit of an overreaction tbh |
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By *ugby 123Couple 33 weeks ago
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Then the best thing to do is send your feedback here and they will look at the posts removed and my post of asking people to keep it civil
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Again, back to the OP please |
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By *edhead72 OP Man 33 weeks ago
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"Then the best thing to do is send your feedback here and they will look at the posts removed and my post of asking people to keep it civil
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Again, back to the OP please"
It feels to me your response closes down discourse and feeds into a narrative of control. I thought the forums were open spaces to discuss freely as long as folks aren’t rude? |
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By *ugby 123Couple 33 weeks ago
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"Then the best thing to do is send your feedback here and they will look at the posts removed and my post of asking people to keep it civil
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https://m.fabswingers.com/contact/owners
Again, back to the OP please
It feels to me your response closes down discourse and feeds into a narrative of control. I thought the forums were open spaces to discuss freely as long as folks aren’t rude?"
Didn't you say they were rude?
My post is sticking within forum rules which asks people to send feedback about mods to the site owners and not on the forum. If you want to send your comments to the right place you can talk about controlling the narrative there too.
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise!"
My work has stated they want you tested, as we visit a lot of places where there are vulnerable adults. If it gets me a week off work, it is money well spent  |
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People may deny it but there is a lot of Covid still going around. The effects have been mitigated because of the vaccine but it is still around.
The effects generally are now similar to a cold / flu. However, people are still dying of Covid - they tend to be unvaccinated though. |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise!
Not if you're working in care. We are still expected to test, as we have service users who are clinically vulnerable. Last year, in October, we had at least 10 staff and service users off at the same time, with symptoms. "
Exactly the same would be the case for flu. |
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By *G1988Couple 33 weeks ago
Hull |
"Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms
I think it's going to become a seasonal virus now, which is to expected I suppose. "
It was always seasonal. It was called the flu and before the propaganda 5 years ago, people got on with their lives.  |
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"I am just baffled, how blind some people are to what is really going on around them. The fact is, once a virus exists it never goes away, it’s how our bodies adapt to it, once something‘s created it can never be got rid of, just tell me where does it go"
Viruses need hosts, in order to multiply and spread to others. It's sometimes between different animal species and our own viruses that infect us, will spread amongst other people.
They're not living animals, they're just able to use living organisms so that they reproduce and spread. They may mutate readily and, if no longer able to find a host to reproduce inside, then we can think of them as extinct. Smallpox has become extinct at least once. Polio is vastly reduced now in its scope, due to vaccine use.  |
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"Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms
I think it's going to become a seasonal virus now, which is to expected I suppose.
It was always seasonal. It was called the flu and before the propaganda 5 years ago, people got on with their lives. "
Covid isn't seasonal. I had it in Spring, Summer and Winter. |
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"Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms
I think it's going to become a seasonal virus now, which is to expected I suppose.
It was always seasonal. It was called the flu and before the propaganda 5 years ago, people got on with their lives. "
Agree 100% |
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"I’m surprised you don’t say that Coles and flus don’t exist, also viruses
Because Covid = Flu, same thing."
You mean like chicken pox and measles are the same thing. Cos they're not.
Influenza is not a Coronavirus. |
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"I’m surprised you don’t say that Coles and flus don’t exist, also viruses
Because Covid = Flu, same thing.
It isn't"
Nope, totally different organisms. If people did a tiny bit of research they would find that out in seconds. It's like saying chicken pie is the same as lamb curry. |
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Speaking as someone who was extremely ill with COVID before the vaccine, I still find these comments and attitudes highly insensitive.
So yeah whilst it's no worse than flu or other viruses it can still be fatal.
Fatal as in people dying,dead you know not breathing anymore.
So perhaps engage some sense of sympathy and understand others didn't and possibly won't get off lightly.
And saying it's only like having the flu, remember in 1918 the Spanish flu killed almost 100 million people.
Or was that made up as well? |
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I remember having a conversation this time last year with a doctor when my mum was in hospital and he was saying covid has become the new cold and flu. It’s only a problem now with vulnerable people and those with respiratory conditions, but it hasn’t gone away that’s for sure, and they can see it sticking around for a quite a while yet, no matter what the 2 verifications Don Carlos thinks, maybe he needs to do some growing up!
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"It’s incredible how emotive a topic can be and watch people react. "
Well when you almost died from it and have family members who's life's have been permanently changed due to covid it does tend to cause anger. |
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Had very few colds or flu since vaccination. Can't remember last one.
Must be the augmentation from the vaccine. .
Used to get one in Autumn and one in Spring. Quite weird really. Not complaining just an observation
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A friend of ours tested positive for with Covid a couple months ago but nowhere near as bad as original virus was but still like a bad flu feeling they said but the isolation thing isn’t like it was so to the person who was rude it is still around |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"Had very few colds or flu since vaccination. Can't remember last one.
Must be the augmentation from the vaccine. .
Used to get one in Autumn and one in Spring. Quite weird really. Not complaining just an observation
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Oddly enough my wife says the same thing, though since having COVID as opposed to the jabs.
She's often laid up with long COVID symptoms, but hasn't had a cold for a few years now and she used to get them often. |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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"Do you know anyone currently suffering? "
I think there's a bit floating about the teesside area at the mo, quite a few people suffering. Very little testing going on but doesn't seem like a regular cold or flu. |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise!"
Not the case. Most healthcare workers are still required to test and a lot of health based employers still require you to isolate if you are positive. I had to isolate for 5 days last year with it, and 6 of us were off at the same time (I ended up being off for 2 weeks in total as I needed steroids afterwards due to being a brittle asthmatic). That had a massive effect on how many patients were able to be seen that week, because that’s 6 clinics gone per day for the entire 5 days. My clinic alone meant 80 patients couldn’t be seen that week, as I would see 26 patients a day.
Just one person sick with Covid or D&V could wipe out our entire ambulance operational control room, which has a knock on effect of putting the other 2 under increased pressure due to the staff shortages, meaning calls take longer to be answered, which means longer delays in the person needing help getting it.
So yes, it is ‘just another virus’ now, but the consequences in a healthcare setting can be catastrophic, which is something people don’t seem to realise |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise!"
its not a pointless exercise at all. My daughter gets extra medication if her or I test positive for covid.... so it isn't pointless at all.
We get given tests from the pharmacy.... |
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"Do you know anyone currently suffering?
It doesn’t exist anymore. Grow up. "
it positively does as I had a bought of it this month after working in london for two days (and yes it definitely was covid as I tested due to my partner working in health care) I think it is you that may need to grow up and realise that covid is still around and will be around for the foreseeable just like the flu or do you belive that that does not exist either? |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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I don't personally know anyone who has it. I haven't been vaccinated, haven't had COVID, and haven't worn a mask. I've traveled, and I have type 1 diabetes. I go to the gym every day and spend a lot of time outdoors. I wish everyone good health.  |
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I can't positively say one way or another ( No pun intended ) but I've certainly noticed an increase in people coughing and spluttering lately , Some sound quite ill with very chesty coughs as well .. |
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"I can't positively say one way or another ( No pun intended ) but I've certainly noticed an increase in people coughing and spluttering lately , Some sound quite ill with very chesty coughs as well .. "
Time of year tho isn't it COVID aside , colds, flu and chest infections are on the rise. |
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I’ve had an episodic chesty cold for 2 weeks now. It’s improving, but not as quickly as I would expect for a cold. Wondering whether it’s actual Covid, or my pre-exposed immune system reacting in an off kilter way to a normal seasonal cold. Or could just also be a regular stubborn cold, probably. Can’t test, so hey ho |
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By *aven3Man 31 weeks ago
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"I’m surprised you don’t say that Coles and flus don’t exist, also viruses"
There are some, including qualified medical professionals,who say that these are not caused by virus and are naturally occurring cleansing of the body. |
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"Do you know anyone currently suffering?
My brain is still suffering from ppl still believing this is actually a thing !!!
How many boosters are ppl on now haha "
My brain hurts from all the idiots who don't believe it exists ! And don't get me started on the anti-vaxxers |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise! its not a pointless exercise at all. My daughter gets extra medication if her or I test positive for covid.... so it isn't pointless at all.
We get given tests from the pharmacy.... "
Unfortunately that's really difficult to get. My daughter is high risk on biologics and mtx and they still won't give her anything, despite qualifying |
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"Do you know anyone currently suffering?
It doesn’t exist anymore. Grow up. "
Of course it exists - once created, they're typically mutating and changing, but CV is still around. Any Dr will confirm it to you. I wasn't aware that the original enquiry needed such a unpleasant response, but if anyone needs to 'grow up' I'd suggest it's yourself. |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise! its not a pointless exercise at all. My daughter gets extra medication if her or I test positive for covid.... so it isn't pointless at all.
We get given tests from the pharmacy....
Unfortunately that's really difficult to get. My daughter is high risk on biologics and mtx and they still won't give her anything, despite qualifying "
they sent my daughter out some x had to fill in what they call the purple form I think |
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By *I TwoCouple 31 weeks ago
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"I’m surprised you don’t say that Coles and flus don’t exist, also viruses
There are some, including qualified medical professionals,who say that these are not caused by virus and are naturally occurring cleansing of the body."
Qualified medical professionals you say 😂😂
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Think I had it recently again.
Distinct from cold or flu symptoms in my experience, though there is some crossover (headaches etc)
Covid seems to result in a wheezing on my lungs whilst I have it that feels different. Also, it’s the only bug I’ve caught that has resulted in Costochondritis on more than one occasion.
What’s the situation with vaccines these days. The virus is obviously evolving, so are the vaccines being updated? Because those of us who don’t qualify for one seem to have been left to it… |
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"Think I had it recently again.
Distinct from cold or flu symptoms in my experience, though there is some crossover (headaches etc)
Covid seems to result in a wheezing on my lungs whilst I have it that feels different. Also, it’s the only bug I’ve caught that has resulted in Costochondritis on more than one occasion.
What’s the situation with vaccines these days. The virus is obviously evolving, so are the vaccines being updated? Because those of us who don’t qualify for one seem to have been left to it…"
The boosters continue to evolve, alongside the virus. The NHS has started the autumn rollout for eligible people and it's also available privately |
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"Think I had it recently again.
Distinct from cold or flu symptoms in my experience, though there is some crossover (headaches etc)
Covid seems to result in a wheezing on my lungs whilst I have it that feels different. Also, it’s the only bug I’ve caught that has resulted in Costochondritis on more than one occasion.
What’s the situation with vaccines these days. The virus is obviously evolving, so are the vaccines being updated? Because those of us who don’t qualify for one seem to have been left to it…
The boosters continue to evolve, alongside the virus. The NHS has started the autumn rollout for eligible people and it's also available privately "
Was luck enough to have my boosters today |
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"Nobody in my family and friends even thinks about it these day.
If anyone is ill they just put it down as a bug.
But then again none of them have any reason to get tested."
It can be worth knowing if someone has it, as months' long symptoms can be explained and appropriate treatment sought |
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"Do you know anyone currently suffering? "
Covid is not generally tested these days.
The symptoms would just be treated as a general respiratory virus in the first instance.
So, to answer your question, even if you did succumb to the covid virus, you'll probably not be tested so would never know what flavour virus you have.
I can only speak for my NHS Trust.
If debilitating, it's bed, paracetamol and plenty of fluids and of course now it will count towards your sick leave Covid or not. |
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"Do you know anyone currently suffering?
It doesn’t exist anymore. Grow up. "
Of course it exists. It's never going away now. Just like the many strains of flu and the common cold we have to live with it. Complications from it will still make people ill and possibly kill. Just because you dont believe in it doesnt mean it's gone. |
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"Wow some really nasty people commenting on this post, if you don't agree, don't post, simples! Everyone is allowed their view
Like any virus it will continue to mutate which is why the flu jab changes all the time and so on.
Weather changing and people's vit D will reduce so to be expected I guess that people are going to get viruses as immune systems get low.
My friend has had cold like flu symptoms for over 3 weeks now alongside other symptoms
I think it's going to become a seasonal virus now, which is to expected I suppose.
It was always seasonal. It was called the flu and before the propaganda 5 years ago, people got on with their lives. "
The flu and covid are 2 completely separate viruses. Yes they are transmitted the same way and have similar symtpoms but they are not the same thing. |
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"I’m surprised you don’t say that Coles and flus don’t exist, also viruses
Because Covid = Flu, same thing."
No they are not they are totally different viruses. Thats like saying measles and chickenpox are the same thing because they both give you a rash. |
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Anyone who has had the ACTUAL flu knows the difference between a cold and the flu.
Lot's have a heavy cold thinking it's the flu.
And yeah whilst COVID symptoms are similar for some as stated COVID is a different virus all together with lots of strains within the COVID umbrella.
Saying they are the same thing is just idiotic. |
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"Anyone who has had the ACTUAL flu knows the difference between a cold and the flu.
Lot's have a heavy cold thinking it's the flu. "
This is so true. I’ve only had Flu twice in the last 25 years or so. I know the difference: with a Cold, you can just about plod on doing basic or essential tasks as long as you don’t over exert yourself.
Flu, you bearly have the strength to even get out of bed for a week, even going to the loo is a major effort, then there is another week or more of slowly regaining strength. |
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"It's pointless even testing for Covid since whether or not your symptoms are confirmed as Covid, the treatment is the same as for flu. Paracetamol and fluids, and avoiding passing it on to others.
Anybody getting a testing kit to check if they have Covid or not are wasting their time and money. A completely pointless exercise!"
We look after vulnerable family nembers, so it is not a waste of time for us. |
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Judging by the fab cams, I see many obese, smokers, drinkers and sedentary individuals.
By living healthier and changing your lifestyle, you will increase your resilience against all infections!
Personally, I get rather irritated by being asked to live my life catering to individuals who are sick and vulnerable, often because of their own unhealthy lifestyles aggravated by the neuroticism that frequent healthcare visits can induce.
I'm well over 70, extremely lifestyle aware, fit and avoid medical visits unless absolutely necessary. The only vaccine I take is flu yearly as got fed up and concerned after 5 covid RNA shots!
We are all swingers and good sex is one of the healthiest activities available.
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"Judging by the fab cams, I see many obese, smokers, drinkers and sedentary individuals.
By living healthier and changing your lifestyle, you will increase your resilience against all infections!
Personally, I get rather irritated by being asked to live my life catering to individuals who are sick and vulnerable, often because of their own unhealthy lifestyles aggravated by the neuroticism that frequent healthcare visits can induce.
I'm well over 70, extremely lifestyle aware, fit and avoid medical visits unless absolutely necessary. The only vaccine I take is flu yearly as got fed up and concerned after 5 covid RNA shots!
We are all swingers and good sex is one of the healthiest activities available.
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Well said and agree with most of this. |
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By *ugby 123Couple 28 weeks ago
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"Judging by the fab cams, I see many obese, smokers, drinkers and sedentary individuals.
By living healthier and changing your lifestyle, you will increase your resilience against all infections!
Personally, I get rather irritated by being asked to live my life catering to individuals who are sick and vulnerable, often because of their own unhealthy lifestyles aggravated by the neuroticism that frequent healthcare visits can induce.
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Who is asking you to "live your life catering to individuals who are sick and vulnerable"?
Being a fit non smoker/ non drinker with no an ounce of fat does not stop you getting ill or very ill with covid.
For example https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-fit-and-healthy-man-42-killed-by-coronavirus-regretted-refusing-vaccine-as-sister-issues-misinformation-warning-12373389
There are other articles about with various people |
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"We all get coughs colds and flue covid just another variety i in bed last 2 days coughing "
Those are 3 different types of viruses with very different impacts! You must try hard not to have learned for over 5 years  |
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Have 2 staff at work both tested positive with Covid. Both have vulnerable family / friends so it’s only right to test to protect those people. Both started as a sore throat and then developed into flu like symptoms but lasting for 2 weeks.
I get legally you don’t have to do anything but morally it’s right to test and then to be considerate. Some vulnerabilities are not obvious so why risk giving it to someone else? |
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"There are two groups of people
1) Those who believe in Covid
2) Those who have a brain"
Of course, it doesn't rely on belief in anything, though belief in the scientific process and accepting evidence helps.
Unlike those needing to hold beliefs in silly nonsense |
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If you recall, Africa was going to suffer terribly from Covid. The lack of vaccines, poverty etc. It was going to devastate Africa, the leftist press and naive epidemiologists told us.
In reality, the continent escaped very lightly. As a Kenyan said, 'when you don't know where the next loaf of bread will come from, you don't worry about covid!'. |
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"If you recall, Africa was going to suffer terribly from Covid. The lack of vaccines, poverty etc. It was going to devastate Africa, the leftist press and naive epidemiologists told us.
In reality, the continent escaped very lightly. As a Kenyan said, 'when you don't know where the next loaf of bread will come from, you don't worry about covid!'. "
Africa has advantages when dealing with covid compared europe. Younger average population,warmer weather,less densely populated areas etc. Of course most African countries are not the best at collecting death stats either. |
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By *DickieMan 28 weeks ago
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Only the vulnerable have ever been at risk of Covid. Unfortunately Chris Whitty and the Nanny State government decided to remove the population’s human rights instead of protecting the vulnerable. Natural immunity with a little help from the vaccine was always going to minimise the virus.
Chris Whitty deliberately chose lockdowns to save the vulnerable at the expense of testing for cancer, heart disease, dementia, closing down schools and doubling the mental health issues in this country. Knighthood for the total abuse of the UK population? Really? |
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By *DickieMan 28 weeks ago
Huddersfield |
All factual - Chris Whitty the Chief Medical Officer decided to ignore the obvious increases in deaths of cancer, heart disease, dementia and doubling of mental health issues in the UK at the expense of Covid which was only ever going to be a risk to less than 1% of the UK population.
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"Judging by the fab cams, I see many obese, smokers, drinkers and sedentary individuals.
By living healthier and changing your lifestyle, you will increase your resilience against all infections!
Personally, I get rather irritated by being asked to live my life catering to individuals who are sick and vulnerable, often because of their own unhealthy lifestyles aggravated by the neuroticism that frequent healthcare visits can induce.
I'm well over 70, extremely lifestyle aware, fit and avoid medical visits unless absolutely necessary. The only vaccine I take is flu yearly as got fed up and concerned after 5 covid RNA shots!
We are all swingers and good sex is one of the healthiest activities available.
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I got cancer when I was at my most fittest and healthiest, so it is not it is all cracked up to be. |
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"All factual - Chris Whitty the Chief Medical Officer decided to ignore the obvious increases in deaths of cancer, heart disease, dementia and doubling of mental health issues in the UK at the expense of Covid which was only ever going to be a risk to less than 1% of the UK population.
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so healthy people weren't affected badly by covid then... ??? |
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By *DickieMan 28 weeks ago
Huddersfield |
No more than healthy people who can become ill with influenza and pneumonia. Exactly the same percentages were ill with Covid.
The Government already knew by name and NHS number which people were vulnerable as they are all registered for the Flu jab based on age and being classified as vulnerable. |
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"Speaking as someone who was extremely ill with COVID before the vaccine, I still find these comments and attitudes highly insensitive.
So yeah whilst it's no worse than flu or other viruses it can still be fatal.
Fatal as in people dying,dead you know not breathing anymore.
So perhaps engage some sense of sympathy and understand others didn't and possibly won't get off lightly.
And saying it's only like having the flu, remember in 1918 the Spanish flu killed almost 100 million people.
Or was that made up as well?"
I had it before it had a name. Possibly the worst 6 weeks of my life. It's definitely not a flu. Anyone that had one of the early strains would know that. |
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"No more than healthy people who can become ill with influenza and pneumonia. Exactly the same percentages were ill with Covid.
The Government already knew by name and NHS number which people were vulnerable as they are all registered for the Flu jab based on age and being classified as vulnerable."
the issue was we delayed locking down.... should have been earlier..
Until there were vaccines available we were losing a lot of people. My daughter lost 1/5th of her classmates to covid... thankfully I'd already pulled her out and was keeping her at home to school. |
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By *arlo56Man 28 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"Speaking as someone who was extremely ill with COVID before the vaccine, I still find these comments and attitudes highly insensitive.
So yeah whilst it's no worse than flu or other viruses it can still be fatal.
Fatal as in people dying,dead you know not breathing anymore.
So perhaps engage some sense of sympathy and understand others didn't and possibly won't get off lightly.
And saying it's only like having the flu, remember in 1918 the Spanish flu killed almost 100 million people.
Or was that made up as well?
I had it before it had a name. Possibly the worst 6 weeks of my life. It's definitely not a flu. Anyone that had one of the early strains would know that."
I had the first strainwhile it was bad with the breathing being the worst symptom.
I can still honestly say the last time I had flu was much worse.
I honestly did think I was going to die from flu in my 40s it hit me so bad. |
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By *DickieMan 28 weeks ago
Huddersfield |
Carlo - all valid points and I too had Covid in December 2019 for 6-8 weeks and it was dreadful and not dissimilar to the first time I had Flu 25 years ago.
The Spanish did kill millions but most of that was down to poverty and other illnesses as a very high percentage of the population was vulnerable.
The UK lockdowns were totally unnecessary and ridiculous given that the peak of infection and the strain was two to three months before we had a lockdown which made it pointless and stupid.
In fact from May to August any fit and healthy person should have been encouraged to be exposed to the low strain virus to build up natural immunity in the country.
Chris Whitty knew this as did the UK Government but they wanted to appear caring and win votes. |
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"Carlo - all valid points and I too had Covid in December 2019 for 6-8 weeks and it was dreadful and not dissimilar to the first time I had Flu 25 years ago.
The Spanish did kill millions but most of that was down to poverty and other illnesses as a very high percentage of the population was vulnerable.
The UK lockdowns were totally unnecessary and ridiculous given that the peak of infection and the strain was two to three months before we had a lockdown which made it pointless and stupid.
In fact from May to August any fit and healthy person should have been encouraged to be exposed to the low strain virus to build up natural immunity in the country.
Chris Whitty knew this as did the UK Government but they wanted to appear caring and win votes. "
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You must have been in a parallel universe
Infections were high before the March lockdown but weren't at their peak . Look again at the numbers for 2020/1
There was also an increase, following 'eat out to help out' and early autumn. The best immunity was acquired more safely and not via letting infections run rampant, as you propose, which would have increased severe illnesses and deaths, as well as overloaded hospitals and the health service, which needed to recover from catastrophic overload. |
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By *DickieMan 28 weeks ago
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Yes the same parallel universe where due to unnecessary lockdowns cancer deaths in 2023 reached there highest levels in 30 years because people were not tested or treated. The same statistics are there for heart disease and dementia and of course the doubling of mental issues from 10 to 20% of the population.
Obviously, the only illness which was relevant to Whitty and the Government in 2020 and 2021 was of course covid.
All other illnesses were asked to be put on hold to fit in with the unilateral approach to the country’s health. Well done Chris Whitty look at all the deaths you are responsible for. Chris The Chief Medical Officer for the UK said I thought it may have an impact but I wasn’t asked ! |
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By *arlo56Man 28 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"It's hard to say as very few people test, there's definitely something going around"
This .
I have just recovered from a 2 week dose of something.
It could of been cold it could of been covid.
I wouldn't know the difference. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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I had it few weeks back 4th time …. This time (the only time ) I was really poorly with it was- it then turned to pneumonia - ended up in local hospital for IV drip for two days |
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Paracetamol is a bad idea. Your body raises your temperature to make creating immune cells to deal with your infection more efficient and to disrupt your infection by taking your body temperature above the infections sweet spot.
Each immune killer cell generated requires a vitamin d3 molecule so hopefully you will have been supplementing. If you haven't been supplementing then it's too late as it takes 2 weeks to become effective. However on the continent you can buy the reservoir form calcifidiol which is active within 2 hours. |
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