In the news today.
Wes Streeting has set this as a target.
If you attend A and E for anything that needs a blood test you are automatically screened unless you opt out.
Sounds like a plan. Thoughts? |
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It's World AIDS day today, hence Streeting making announcements.
It's been an international target for some time.
HIV healthcare has come on a lot in 40 years, its now classed as a long term health condition, but not without some potential long term complications.
This isn't universal and some political parties are making backward steps.
Opt Out testing has been rolled out in A&E for about a year.
Stigma, and ignorance about HIV is still very prevalent.
U=U.
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The news was reporting increased in sections of society not normally seen as the highest risk.
Decreasing in those it is usually associated with.
Didn’t realise it was World Aids Day, it is good that it is in the news, I hope the publicity helps. |
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I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.
Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).
The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea. |
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Routine testing for HIV in my opinion should have been introduced thirty years ago. The fact that a person can be infected, contagious and asyptomatic for a period up to twenty to twenty five years is scary.
There around 1,300 new case of HIV per year in the UK and almost all of them are late diagnosis. During the intervening time from infection to diagnosis only the first six to eight weeks ie, prior to seroconversion is the person incapable of transmitting, that is a bloody long time especially in a highly promiscuous individual.
Personally any blood test should also include an HIV screening as routine. |
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"In the news today.
Wes Streeting has set this as a target.
If you attend A and E for anything that needs a blood test you are automatically screened unless you opt out.
Sounds like a plan. Thoughts? "
5 years is still a lot of risk
Good luck to you all who don't practice safe sex |
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"I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.
Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).
The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea."
That is wild unfounded speculation although I do agree that men who have sex with men are at greater risk however they might define themselves our whatever type of main relationship they are in
"Key Increases in HIV Diagnoses (England, 2023-2024 data)
While new diagnoses among gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (GBMSM) have generally declined over the long term, the number of diagnoses has risen significantly in other demographics.
Heterosexual Men and Women: Diagnoses among heterosexual populations have risen significantly, particularly outside of London.
Black African and Asian Populations: Diagnoses in Black African populations increased by 80% (comparing 2024 to 2019 data) and Asian populations increased by 40%.
In 2023, Black African people accounted for 54% of all new HIV diagnoses in the UK." |
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"Diagnoses Made Abroad: A significant portion of reported diagnoses (around 53% in 2023 in England) are people who were previously diagnosed in another country and are continuing their care in the UK. These individuals are usually linked to care quickly and do not necessarily reflect new transmissions within the UK. "
So it's quite clear from the data that a large proportion driving the numbers up, are people who already have HIV imagrating to the UK. |
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By *-lestaTV/TS 19 weeks ago
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The guidelines for prep were changed a while ago but MF swingers need to be more honest when attending sexual health. Doxy pep and the meningitis (gonorrhea), mpox, hep a and b are also available for people who are at high risk.
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"If folks tested took meds if positive
And took prep
Surely it's reasonable to expect it to drop right off
More worrying perhaps is the rise of antibiotic resistant ghonorea and Chlamydia "
If ?
95% of people who know their status and are positive take consistent medication, so are undetectable & untransmittable (U=U).
Its the small portion of folks that are undiagnosed that pose a risk to their own health and those they have sex with.
Hence opt out testing in some A&E depts, that are currently in areas of highest likely risk nationally. |
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"I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.
Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).
The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea."
There are indeed many who are just not testing and not taking risks seriously.
They think that these things only happen to gay men for sone unknown reason.
Unless everyone starts to take control of their sexual health then these infections will continue to spread and the incredible advances in medicine in the area is not going to make the difference that it should do. |
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Yup I just say this reading about prep.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/10/nhs-to-roll-out-first-long-acting-injection-to-prevent-hiv/#:~:text=PrEP%20drugs%20can%20prevent%20people,and%20becoming%20an%20established%20infection. |
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"Yup I just say this reading about prep.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/10/nhs-to-roll-out-first-long-acting-injection-to-prevent-hiv/#:~:text=PrEP%20drugs%20can%20prevent%20people,and%20becoming%20an%20established%20infection."
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Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria? |
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"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?"
I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.
Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace. |
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"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?
I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.
Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace. "
Thankyou.
We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on. |
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"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?
I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.
Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.
Thankyou.
We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on."
Sorry, my op was unclear. If the LGBT provider do do testing. They'll have staff that are knowledgeable about vaccines and new treatments and can probably help you access them.
Ditto in person STI services.
Is that clearer ? |
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"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?
I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.
Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.
Thankyou.
We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on."
If you can get to a clinic, the staff are generally very helpful and can be a mine of useful information. They'll update you on vaccine availability etc too. Mine was out of the gonorrhoea vaccine booster I'm waiting for last visit but explained how much they get and thus when to revisit, last time.
They help well over the phone too. You might be amazed at how friendly and helpful they are. |
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"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?
I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.
Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.
Thankyou.
We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on.
If you can get to a clinic, the staff are generally very helpful and can be a mine of useful information. They'll update you on vaccine availability etc too. Mine was out of the gonorrhoea vaccine booster I'm waiting for last visit but explained how much they get and thus when to revisit, last time.
They help well over the phone too. You might be amazed at how friendly and helpful they are. "
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"I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.
Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).
The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea."
100% this!!! |
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"Surely this won't be achieved, as so many people won't take vaccines."
. I’ve just received my test results , all clear plus on prep and only safe sex with strangers
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"No chance more lies from the Labour Party "
What on earth are you wittering about.
This is an international health goal.
Although supported by government funding thru the NHS and other health bodies, its largely not a politically driven initiative.
Use your brain before your keyboard. |
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"I remember the Anti AIDS campaign authorised by the conservatives AIDS is not prejudiced and don’t die of ignorance I think a similar campaign is needed today "
Pretty sure the Zero HIV by 2030 is that campaign.
Go look up FastTrack cities and you'll find all the info on the initiative you need.
No labour propaganda, I promise.
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