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"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data)" Only draw back is this is worldwide and a hell of a lot more will be infect then SARS ever infected  | |||
"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data)" 2 key words here So and far | |||
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"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data) 2 key words here So and far" 134,611 closed cases 20,828 (15%) deaths 460,304 infected. | |||
"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data) Only draw back is this is worldwide and a hell of a lot more will be infect then SARS ever infected "Its exactly because it is less lethal that its spread further. A disease that kills quickly or makes a host too ill to move around isn't going to get far naturally. Conversely, one that causes mild illness for the majority and kills the small minority will travel far and wide, as the host feels only a little bit unwell in most cases and still goes shopping etc. Also we have the asymptomatic folks in that too. | |||
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"The World Health Organisation (WHO) says about 80% of those who have signs of COVID-19 show mild symptoms, about 20% are seriously or critically affected, and about 3.4% die, but the death rate is varying hugely from country to country. One of the characteristics of the virus is how quickly it spreads from person to person. But, despite it being transferred apparently much more quickly than SARS, which was monitored by the WHO in the noughties, it has proved much less deadly. Current WHO data" Current data. The UK and USA are still near the bottom of the infamous curve, as I'm sure many others are. The excel centre is being set up with 4000 beds and a morgue. They're not doing that because this will all die out soon.  | |||
"The World Health Organisation (WHO) says about 80% of those who have signs of COVID-19 show mild symptoms, about 20% are seriously or critically affected, and about 3.4% die, but the death rate is varying hugely from country to country. One of the characteristics of the virus is how quickly it spreads from person to person. But, despite it being transferred apparently much more quickly than SARS, which was monitored by the WHO in the noughties, it has proved much less deadly. Current WHO data Current data. The UK and USA are still near the bottom of the infamous curve, as I'm sure many others are. The excel centre is being set up with 4000 beds and a morgue. They're not doing that because this will all die out soon. "They're just getting it ready just in case | |||
"Add to note they may have died with Coronavirus not from" This is also an important distinction not made often in the mass media. | |||
"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data) Only draw back is this is worldwide and a hell of a lot more will be infect then SARS ever infected
Its exactly because it is less lethal that its spread further. A disease that kills quickly or makes a host too ill to move around isn't going to get far naturally. Conversely, one that causes mild illness for the majority and kills the small minority will travel far and wide, as the host feels only a little bit unwell in most cases and still goes shopping etc. Also we have the asymptomatic folks in that too. "Sensible answer here  | |||
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"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks " You're going to make Dominic Cummings drool. Expect a raise in inheritance tax... | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks " People just don't realise the social, financial impact this is having. Not to mention all those with mental illnesses who can't cope with whats going on. And those on the autism spectrum, a poor girl commited suicide because she couldn't cope with the change. Only 19 | |||
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"Just on a side note... There is a stage after infection that is known as 'shedding'. This is when a virus multiplies extremely rapidly With SARS that stage occurred when the virus had reached the lungs and the host was already very unwell This virus seems to shed when it has only reached the airways making it far more contagious " Thats not what Gov.uk think | |||
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"Just on a side note... There is a stage after infection that is known as 'shedding'. This is when a virus multiplies extremely rapidly With SARS that stage occurred when the virus had reached the lungs and the host was already very unwell This virus seems to shed when it has only reached the airways making it far more contagious Thats not what Gov.uk think" It's what epidemiologists think | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks People just don't realise the social, financial impact this is having. Not to mention all those with mental illnesses who can't cope with whats going on. And those on the autism spectrum, a poor girl commited suicide because she couldn't cope with the change. Only 19" We're aware, and we're attempting to mitigate it without infecting people. | |||
"Just on a side note... There is a stage after infection that is known as 'shedding'. This is when a virus multiplies extremely rapidly With SARS that stage occurred when the virus had reached the lungs and the host was already very unwell This virus seems to shed when it has only reached the airways making it far more contagious " Good post | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks People just don't realise the social, financial impact this is having. Not to mention all those with mental illnesses who can't cope with whats going on. And those on the autism spectrum, a poor girl commited suicide because she couldn't cope with the change. Only 19" A nurse just committed suicide on her shift today. Left a note saying, I can no longer live with myself not knowing whether I have been a carrier and have passed it on to others. So sad she was pushed to do this because of lack of proper P Po E and especially testing. This is the burden many are carrying. It's the nurses at the sharp end that should have been first to be tested and keep being tested, so the hispitals don't become the hotbed for spreading this further into communities. | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start." You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks People just don't realise the social, financial impact this is having. Not to mention all those with mental illnesses who can't cope with whats going on. And those on the autism spectrum, a poor girl commited suicide because she couldn't cope with the change. Only 19 A nurse just committed suicide on her shift today. Left a note saying, I can no longer live with myself not knowing whether I have been a carrier and have passed it on to others. So sad she was pushed to do this because of lack of proper P Po E and especially testing. This is the burden many are carrying. It's the nurses at the sharp end that should have been first to be tested and keep being tested, so the hispitals don't become the hotbed for spreading this further into communities." Hoping the good news is it'll wake up managers and government a bit more and think who is important to test regularly. | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks People just don't realise the social, financial impact this is having. Not to mention all those with mental illnesses who can't cope with whats going on. And those on the autism spectrum, a poor girl commited suicide because she couldn't cope with the change. Only 19 A nurse just committed suicide on her shift today. Left a note saying, I can no longer live with myself not knowing whether I have been a carrier and have passed it on to others. So sad she was pushed to do this because of lack of proper P Po E and especially testing. This is the burden many are carrying. It's the nurses at the sharp end that should have been first to be tested and keep being tested, so the hispitals don't become the hotbed for spreading this further into communities." This is a difficult time for many. We need to support those on the front line. | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things." How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. " There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause. | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause." Just to point out again. The data is the current data on the WHO website. Not my opinion.  | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause." You do know how the totals are collated don't you? | |||
"Just on a side note... There is a stage after infection that is known as 'shedding'. This is when a virus multiplies extremely rapidly With SARS that stage occurred when the virus had reached the lungs and the host was already very unwell This virus seems to shed when it has only reached the airways making it far more contagious Good post "I think we've found common ground | |||
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"Why do people keep insisting on comparing this to other viruses? It's not going to solve anything,make people any less sick or dead. It's pointless. It's like say oh the second world war, yeah that's bad but the first world war was worse. Totally unnecessary." I think the unprecedented Draconian laws and regulations being imposed. Financial ruin, and societal changes happening | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause. You do know how the totals are collated don't you?" Like all data of this nature. To put this in perspective 8098 SARS cases in total. 9815 cases were reported in the USA alone today. Personally I don't think the data is accurate at all. Two days ago the UK reported just under 1000 new cases in one day. Today 187.  | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks People just don't realise the social, financial impact this is having. Not to mention all those with mental illnesses who can't cope with whats going on. And those on the autism spectrum, a poor girl commited suicide because she couldn't cope with the change. Only 19 A nurse just committed suicide on her shift today. Left a note saying, I can no longer live with myself not knowing whether I have been a carrier and have passed it on to others. So sad she was pushed to do this because of lack of proper P Po E and especially testing. This is the burden many are carrying. It's the nurses at the sharp end that should have been first to be tested and keep being tested, so the hispitals don't become the hotbed for spreading this further into communities. This is a difficult time for many. We need to support those on the front line." | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause." Well before passing judgement take a few mins to read my posts the past 4 weeks and you'll see very quickly I and a few others never underestimated this. Took a lot of flack nasty messages and post replies from social and party organisers and may forumites for suggesting a less bravado and more responsible approach needed to be done in the face of what was to come. Being responsible wasn't important then, seems the tide has changed somewhat. Unpopular I may have been and blocked by a few because of it but the case is layed out before them. I think you can compare as some compare country to country even with all its flaws, there are things to learn from both. There is no virus exactly the same as others and that's a positive in many ways. There will be many positives, some of which cannot be said now. | |||
"Why do people keep insisting on comparing this to other viruses? It's not going to solve anything,make people any less sick or dead. It's pointless. It's like say oh the second world war, yeah that's bad but the first world war was worse. Totally unnecessary. I think the unprecedented Draconian laws and regulations being imposed. Financial ruin, and societal changes happening" Great possibility of a new world order, which I'd say many governments have in the back of their minds as they push new measures forward. Call me cynical if you like but there's a great possibility. | |||
"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data)" The rate of contamination of Covid-19 is much higher, which could equalise to the death rates of SARS in a year time with millions of not billions of people contaminated | |||
"Nearly 10 in 100 people infected with SARS died, versus 2 in 100 with coronavirus. 2019-nCoV is less deadly than SARS. The fatality ratio for SARS was 9.6%, while the rate for the Wuhan virus so far is 2%. To date (WHO Data) The rate of contamination of Covid-19 is much higher, which could equalise to the death rates of SARS in a year time with millions of not billions of people contaminated" Where are you getting your nonsense from? | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause. Well before passing judgement take a few mins to read my posts the past 4 weeks and you'll see very quickly I and a few others never underestimated this. Took a lot of flack nasty messages and post replies from social and party organisers and may forumites for suggesting a less bravado and more responsible approach needed to be done in the face of what was to come. Being responsible wasn't important then, seems the tide has changed somewhat. Unpopular I may have been and blocked by a few because of it but the case is layed out before them. I think you can compare as some compare country to country even with all its flaws, there are things to learn from both. There is no virus exactly the same as others and that's a positive in many ways. There will be many positives, some of which cannot be said now. " Join the club. I was shot down in flames for saying this was serious. Shot down again for "patting myself on the back" when the tide turned. Frankly I am not worried about people's opinions. It's time for us all to roll up our shirtsleaves and get to work. Those of us unwell. Stay home rest get better. When you are recovered the nation will need you. Those of us healthy. Stop worrying about yourself. Volunteer. Be part of the solution. The person you fetch medicine for today might be the person buying food for you in three weeks time. | |||
"Way things are going there will be self employed people starving to death also suicide rate will rise due to stress of having no money for weeks " In Italy suicide is counted as virus related deaths this also due to that suicide is still regarded as sin by the catholic church and some are circumventing this to enable catholic funerals. | |||
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"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause. You do know how the totals are collated don't you? Like all data of this nature. To put this in perspective 8098 SARS cases in total. 9815 cases were reported in the USA alone today. Personally I don't think the data is accurate at all. Two days ago the UK reported just under 1000 new cases in one day. Today 187. "I'd ignore UK stats on cases at present until testing is done on all hospital admissions. | |||
""No child has died of COVID-19," Glatt said. "There have been hundreds of cases and not one child under the age of 10 has died from COVID-19." By comparison, 125 children in the United States have died from the flu this season, the CDC says. One other important difference: The new coronavirus appears to be more infectious than the seasonal flu, experts said. People carrying the new coronavirus appear to spread the infection, on average, to an additional 2.2 people, federal health officials said in a recent letter in the New England Journal of Medicine. That's again on par with the pandemic 1918 Spanish flu, in which each infected person, on average, passed the virus on to between two and three people, said Dr. Waleed Javaid, director of infection prevention and control at Mount Sinai Downtown in New York City. That figure for the regular seasonal flu is around 1.3 new people infected for every person with the flu, according to a 2014 paper in BMC Infectious Diseases. The 1957 (1.6), 1968 (1.8) and 2009 (1.5) influenza pandemics also had lower infection rates than the coronavirus, according to data from that paper. People also shouldn't assume that the coronavirus will fade as winter turns to spring turns to summer, as happens with the seasonal flu, said Marc Lipsitch, a professor of epidemiology with the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. 3/5 "As a virus new to humans, [the coronavirus] will face less immunity and thus transmit more readily even outside of the winter season," Lipsitch added. "Changing seasons and school vacation may help, but are unlikely to stop transmission. "Like pandemic flu, it might transmit widely outside of season," Lipsitch noted. Both the new coronavirus and the flu spread in the same way, mainly through droplet transmission, Javaid said. "If I sneeze or I cough, small respiratory particles fly into the air about 3 to 6 feet and fall to the ground," Javaid said. "Within those 3 to 6 feet, people can get exposed." When those droplets land on a surface, they can be picked up by someone's hand touching that surface. If the person touches their eyes, nose or mouth, the virus can be transmitted thorough the mucous membranes, Javaid explained. "We all touch our faces more than 20 times an hour. Every four or five minutes we are touching our face. I touched my face twice talking to you, already," Javaid said. Carriers without symptoms In another similarity, people carrying either virus can walk around without showing any active symptoms. As many as 3 out of 4 people carrying the seasonal flu have no symptoms, according to a 2014 British study published in The Lancet. People infected with either virus might be contagious before symptoms develop, making it difficult to control their spread, Javaid said. When symptoms occur, COVID-19 appears to be more akin to the common cold than the flu. Coronavirus symptoms include fever, cough and shortness of breath, all of which may appear between two and 14 days after exposure, the CDC says. 4/5 The flu has those symptoms as well as sore throat, muscle aches, headaches and fatigue, the CDC says. People with the flu have one important advantage, in that antiviral drugs like Tamiflu are available to reduce the length and severity of their illness, Glatt noted. No similar antiviral is yet available to treat COVID-19. However, a coalition of European researchers found there are as many as 31 approved antiviral drugs that could potentially be effective against COVID-19. Repurposing these drugs as a COVID-19 therapy would have "a substantially higher probability of success to market as compared with developing new virus-specific drugs and vaccines, and a significantly reduced cost and timeline to clinical availability," the researchers wrote in the International Journal of Infectious Disease. Glatt said he's not optimistic that an antiviral that's effective against the coronavirus will be found quickly. "I doubt, although there's a lot of effort being put into it, that we're going to come up with an antiviral right away for the treatment of COVID-19," Glatt said. "Who knows, but I wouldn't count on that." By the same token, there's a vaccine for the flu, but a vaccine for coronavirus won't be available for a year at the earliest, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. 5/5 Given that, the best prevention for the coronavirus appears to be the same as for the common cold, experts said -- wash your hands frequently, avoid contact with sick people, cover your cough or sneeze with your elbow to prevent hand contamination, and stay home if you're ill. People who have chronic illnesses should make sure their disease is under control, to prevent their infection risk, Javaid said. For example, people who have diabetes should make sure their diabetes is under control. MedicalNews Copyright © 2020 HealthDay. All rights reserved. CONTINUE SCROLLING FOR RELATED SLIDESHOW References This website is certified by Health On the Net Foundation. Click to verify. TRUSTe About MedicineNet | Terms of Use | Privacy ©1996-2020 MedicineNet, Inc. All rights reserved. MedicineNet does not provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. " Great Post BUT you haven't stated anything we don't already know. | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause. You do know how the totals are collated don't you? Like all data of this nature. To put this in perspective 8098 SARS cases in total. 9815 cases were reported in the USA alone today. Personally I don't think the data is accurate at all. Two days ago the UK reported just under 1000 new cases in one day. Today 187.
I'd ignore UK stats on cases at present until testing is done on all hospital admissions. " | |||
"One thing which isn't factored in yet has been a diving motivation behind a lot of the responses from governments is that Covid19 caused massive losses on the stock exchanges globally where as SARS didn't have anywhere near the same crisis. This is the reason it was call the "rich man's virus" almost from the start. You're comparing the world reaction to a contained virus to an uncontained virus. Two completely different things. How is any pandemic virus contained. The fact it was pandemic as with the birdflu shows it wasn't contained. Of if you say it was controlled, then I suggest this will also be contained, it's just early stages but there's indications that it will be contained. There were 8,098 reported cases of SARS and 774 deaths. There currently 462,419 reported cases of COVID-19 and 20,867 deaths... and we are pretty much just at the beginning. If Trump decides it's business as usual in a couple of weeks time then all hell will break loose. People keep saying that scaremongering is worse than the virus. Personally I think the biggest damage has been done by those who underestimate the potential havoc this virus could cause. You do know how the totals are collated don't you? Like all data of this nature. To put this in perspective 8098 SARS cases in total. 9815 cases were reported in the USA alone today. Personally I don't think the data is accurate at all. Two days ago the UK reported just under 1000 new cases in one day. Today 187.
I'd ignore UK stats on cases at present until testing is done on all hospital admissions.
"Actually the lack of data is data in itself. If it's a reportable disease and it's impossible for it to take a 90% dip in one day, then it means we have either run out of tests or the NHS are too overwhelmed to report (which I doubt at this stage). | |||
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"I know you shouldn`t compare Corona virus with flu, but what would the death rate be if we didn`t have a flu vaccine? Would we have to carry out the same precautions as we`re having to now? " Yes, this is the future. It's gonna happen again too, | |||
"I know you shouldn`t compare Corona virus with flu, but what would the death rate be if we didn`t have a flu vaccine? Would we have to carry out the same precautions as we`re having to now? Yes, this is the future. It's gonna happen again too, " I agree with this. I read an article where a scientist was asked what if COVID-19 mutates again. He replied saying it doesn't need to mutate, it's spreading just fine as it is. This virus is a danger until 7.7 billion people are vaccinated against it. Once it mutates it starts again. Bear in mind that the 463 000 cases currently reported represent only a tiny fraction of humans on earth. And Donald says we will be back at work by Easter... | |||
"The World Health Organisation (WHO) says about 80% of those who have signs of COVID-19 show mild symptoms, about 20% are seriously or critically affected, and about 3.4% die, but the death rate is varying hugely from country to country. One of the characteristics of the virus is how quickly it spreads from person to person. But, despite it being transferred apparently much more quickly than SARS, which was monitored by the WHO in the noughties, it has proved much less deadly. Current WHO data" I find it confusing, and I apologise for my ignorance in the subject, and my understanding of your posts.... first post mentions 2% fatality, 2nd post says ‘about 3.4%’. And with minutes between the two, not days.?? | |||
"The World Health Organisation (WHO) says about 80% of those who have signs of COVID-19 show mild symptoms, about 20% are seriously or critically affected, and about 3.4% die, but the death rate is varying hugely from country to country. One of the characteristics of the virus is how quickly it spreads from person to person. But, despite it being transferred apparently much more quickly than SARS, which was monitored by the WHO in the noughties, it has proved much less deadly. Current WHO data I find it confusing, and I apologise for my ignorance in the subject, and my understanding of your posts.... first post mentions 2% fatality, 2nd post says ‘about 3.4%’. And with minutes between the two, not days.?? " It varies from region to region. In Italy it is currently 10% in the USA it's 1.2%. When your hospitals are in the early stages they can give patients the care they need. When hospitals are overwhelmed and patients die before they even get to see a doctor and you are in a triage situation, mortality goes up. Also a factor is the average age in the area. It will be interesting to see when this hits Fort Lauderdale whether the warm climate trumps old age... | |||
